Re: Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deborah Harrell wrote:

 Apparently we've inadvertantly helped develop a
 bacterium that needs our waste to live:
 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030703/ap_on_sc/toxic_feeder_5
 ...Vinyl chloride is one of the most common and
 hazardous industrial chemicals. It can linger in
the
 soil for hundreds of years and is present at about
a
 third of the toxic Superfund sites listed by the
 Environmental Protection Agency.  It 
 usually accumulates as a deteriorated form of more
 complex compounds found in dry cleaning fluid and
 metal cleansers.
snip 
 ...These organisms can only grow when the
 contaminants are present, he said. When the
 material
 is gone, their numbers decline because they don't
 have any food. So really it's a perfect system.
 
 
 Didn't I read that novel 30 years ago?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.seymour1/ukbookguide/Series/Doomwatch/mutant59.html

grin
Yep, I read that one too! ...Also about 30 years
ago...
I wonder if the Good Doctor read it also, to the
Gubru's chagrin?  ;)

Well, Saliva IS An Effective Emergency Eyeglasses
Cleaner Maru  ;)

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Re: Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-07 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 11:35  pm, Deborah Harrell wrote:

I replied to this over 2 hours ago; the post hasn't
shown, so I'm trying again (although I don't remember
exactly what I said then... :P ).


It might show up in  a week or so :)

(An email of mine showed up on the list after more than a week in 
limbo...I sent an email about that a couple of hours ago and *it* 
hasn't turned up yet...)

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Re: Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:35 PM 7/7/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
I replied to this over 2 hours ago; the post hasn't
shown, so I'm trying again (although I don't remember
exactly what I said then... :P ).


Well, I tried to send a bunch of e-mail messages earlier (before I had to 
leave for class), but I got an error message every time I tried to send 
anything, and then it got to the point where it wouldn't even let me 
download incoming mail, so I gave up and went to class with a bunch of 
messages waiting unsent in my outbox.  Apparently ATT fixed whatever the 
problem was while I was away, because it seems to be working correctly now 
(and I had 180 new incoming messages waiting when I got back) . . .



--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Deborah Harrell wrote:
 Apparently we've inadvertantly helped develop a
 bacterium that needs our waste to live:
 

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030703/ap_on_sc/toxic 
_feeder_5
 ...Vinyl chloride is one of the most common and
 hazardous industrial chemicals. It can linger in
the
 soil for hundreds of years and is present at about
a
 third of the toxic Superfund sites listed by the
 Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites).
 It usually accumulates as a deteriorated form of
more
 complex compounds found in dry cleaning fluid and
 metal cleansers
 These organisms can only grow when the
 contaminants are present, he said. When the
 material
 is gone, their numbers decline because they don't
 have any food. So really it's a perfect system.

 Didn't I read that novel 30 years ago?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.seymour1/ukbookguide/Series/Doomwatch/mutant59.html
grin  I also read that one...about 3 decades ago.


Yeah, it was memorable . . . and that is _not_ a compliment . . .



Funny how 'monsters' can be both huge flesh-eating
creatures, and - microscopic flesh-destroying ones.


Though I guess to be precise the microorganism described in the article 
feeds on vinyl chloride monomer, not the polymer.  (If it does eat the 
latter, I hope they will be careful about dumping it into the drain, given 
the wide use of PVC pipe in plumbing these days . . . )



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I _never_ wear a slip when I'm under the covers . . .



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Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
Apparently we've inadvertantly helped develop a
bacterium that needs our waste to live:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030703/ap_on_sc/toxic_feeder_5
...Vinyl chloride is one of the most common and
hazardous industrial chemicals. It can linger in the
soil for hundreds of years and is present at about a
third of the toxic Superfund sites listed by the
Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites). It
usually accumulates as a deteriorated form of more
complex compounds found in dry cleaning fluid and
metal cleansers. 

Brief contact with vinyl chloride can cause
dizziness, drowsiness and headaches. Long-term
exposure can raise the risk of a rare form of liver
cancer, according to the EPA. 

Loeffler has already tested the bacterium on vinyl
chloride at the contaminated site in Michigan. Its
ability to eat the toxic compound — and render it
harmless — was hastened in one test by adding plant
fertilizer and other nutrients to the soil. In another
trial, vinyl chloride was destroyed by injecting the
soil with concentrated amounts of BAV1 developed in
the lab 

...These organisms can only grow when the
contaminants are present, he said. When the material
is gone, their numbers decline because they don't have
any food. So really it's a perfect system. 

Evolution In Action Maru  :)

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Re: Scouted: Vinyl Chloride Eater

2003-07-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:21 PM 7/5/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Apparently we've inadvertantly helped develop a
bacterium that needs our waste to live:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030703/ap_on_sc/toxic_feeder_5
...Vinyl chloride is one of the most common and
hazardous industrial chemicals. It can linger in the
soil for hundreds of years and is present at about a
third of the toxic Superfund sites listed by the
Environmental Protection Agency (news - web sites). It
usually accumulates as a deteriorated form of more
complex compounds found in dry cleaning fluid and
metal cleansers.
Brief contact with vinyl chloride can cause
dizziness, drowsiness and headaches. Long-term
exposure can raise the risk of a rare form of liver
cancer, according to the EPA.
Loeffler has already tested the bacterium on vinyl
chloride at the contaminated site in Michigan. Its
ability to eat the toxic compound — and render it
harmless — was hastened in one test by adding plant
fertilizer and other nutrients to the soil. In another
trial, vinyl chloride was destroyed by injecting the
soil with concentrated amounts of BAV1 developed in
the lab
...These organisms can only grow when the
contaminants are present, he said. When the material
is gone, their numbers decline because they don't have
any food. So really it's a perfect system.
Evolution In Action Maru  :)


Didn't I read that novel 30 years ago?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.seymour1/ukbookguide/Series/Doomwatch/mutant59.html



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I never dreamed that I would see the last.
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