Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-04 Thread Travis Edmunds 

From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: This World In Arms
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:20:17 -0700
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem.   As were Democrats.
The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-04 Thread Dave Land 
On Oct 2, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem.   As were Democrats.
The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.
That is the point I was making.
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-03 Thread John D. Giorgis 
At 10:25 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
 Republicans were different then.

 Ahem.   As were Democrats.

 The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.

 If you define better as the Democrats having grabbed the mantle of
 isolationism from the 1930's and 1940's Repubicans.

I was thinking more in terms of racists bolting to the Republican party 
when the Civil Rights laws were passed.

Of course you were.  

The following quote:
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children... This is not a way
of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war,
it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
-- Dwight D. Eisenhower

was just self-evidentlyf referring to race relations and not
defense/foreign policy.

Good grief.

JDG
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-03 Thread Doug Pensinger 
John wrote:
Of course you were.
The following quote:
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children... This is not a way
of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war,
it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
   -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
was just self-evidentlyf referring to race relations and not
defense/foreign policy.
Good grief.
I was, of course, speaking on more general terms.
As far as the above quote being isolationist, I think that Eisenhower, who 
was noted for his warnings about the defense industry, was speaking in 
terms of war profiteering and not in terms of isolating ourselves from the 
problems of the rest of the world.  He would, for instance, be very much 
against spending billions of dollars on an ineffective missile defense 
system.

--
Doug
Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that 
this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community 
of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual 
trust and respect.

Dwight D. Eisenhower
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This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread Dave Land 
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children... This is not a way
of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war,
it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
   -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Republicans were different then.
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread John D. Giorgis 
At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.

Ahem.   As were Democrats.

JDG

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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread Medievalbk 
The trouble with the world in arms is that no one is currently selling a 
strong enough deodorant.
 
---Vilyehm Teighlore
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship 
At 02:58 PM Saturday 10/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The trouble with the world in arms is that no one is currently selling a
strong enough deodorant.

That stinks.

-- Ronn!  :)
Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot remain in the cradle forever.
-- Konstantin E. Tsiolkovskiy
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread Doug Pensinger 
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem.   As were Democrats.
The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.
--
Doug
IMO, of course.
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread John D. Giorgis 
At 04:20 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
 Republicans were different then.

 Ahem.   As were Democrats.

The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.

If you define better as the Democrats having grabbed the mantle of
isolationism from the 1930's and 1940's Repubicans.

JDG
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Re: This World In Arms

2004-10-02 Thread Doug Pensinger 
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 22:05:09 -0400, John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

At 04:20 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Doug Pensinger wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:31:08 -0400, John D. Giorgis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

At 12:19 PM 10/2/2004 -0700 Dave Land wrote:
Republicans were different then.
Ahem.   As were Democrats.
The difference being that the Dems are _better_ now.
If you define better as the Democrats having grabbed the mantle of
isolationism from the 1930's and 1940's Repubicans.
I was thinking more in terms of racists bolting to the Republican party 
when the Civil Rights laws were passed.

--
Doug
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