Re: Julia's Twins
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > >From another list: > > << > ...have been born: Thomas James & Katherine Carly (or Caroline or > something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received > voice mail from her husband. > > Yay Julie! > >> > Yay! Congratulations! -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Julia Thompson wrote: > > >Hey, folks, I'm home. > > > >Details on babies: > > > > > Congratulations, Julia and Dan! Glad to hear that you all are healthy > and home already, I hope the induced labor wasn't as painful as the last > time. The induced labor started out fine, it didn't get terribly painful until they ruptured an amniotic sac. And both babies were delivered within 2.5 hours of that, so it wasn't like the 8 painful hours last time. (This time had its own interesting moments, though.) > By the way, how's your father in law doing? He seems to be doing fairly well. I think he was supposed to have another scan yesterday, and the next time he sees his doctor, the doc will tell him what the scan turned up. My parents-in-law plan to come to visit between the next round of chemo and the one after that, and I'm looking forward to that. Mom will leave while they're here. We won't be without help in the house until after my birthday, which will be nice. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
Reggie Bautista wrote: > > Julia wrote: > >Hey, folks, I'm home. > > > >Details on babies: > > > >Catherine Karling Thompson > >born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > > >Thomas James Thompson > >born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > > And she will probably never grow tired of reminding him that she's older... > :-) > > Congrats, glad to hear everything came out ok. [ducking] > > Reggie Bautista > Somebody Had To Say It Maru There were moments when I had my doubts. In fact, at one point, I was about to think, "I don't think I can do this," and then I remembered that a lot of people knew what would be happening that day, and that a good number of them cared about me, and just remembering that that many people cared about me and what I was going through helped me to get past *that* moment. Let's say I'm extremely grateful that I got something for pain when I did, and that a last-minute emergency C-section was *not* necessary, and leave it at that for details of labor & delivery. But just to give an idea: The next day, as I was watching a college football game, there was a commercial for Toyota Tacoma. They asked, "Are you tough enough for Tacoma?" at the end. And I replied to the TV, "Yes, I'm tough enough for Tacoma. The question is, is Tacoma tough enough for *me*?" Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Julia's Twins
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Doug Pensinger forwarded: > > > >...have been born: Thomas James & Katherine Carly (or Caroline or > >something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received > >voice mail from her husband. > > > Does anyone know the name [and site!] of the Hospital? > Maybe they have a Web Page with newborns. The hospital didn't take pictures this time. Dan took some, got a CD of them, and it's sitting on a table in the breakfast nook. At some point, he will be at a point of having had enough sleep to put some up on a webpage somewhere. I'll post a link when I have one to post. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
* Julia Thompson [Mon, 29/09/2003 at 15:35 -0500] > Hey, folks, I'm home. > > Details on babies: > > Catherine Karling Thompson > born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. > 19" long > > Thomas James Thompson > born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. > 19 3/4" long > whaou !! un poids combiné de 6.6 kg, impressionnant ! Bienvenue donc, à Catherine et à Thomas sur notre grand vaisseau spatial, et félicitations aux parents, ma femme se joint à moi pour vous souhaiter bon courage. -- Jean-Marc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, folks, I'm home. > > Details on babies: > > Catherine Karling Thompson > born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. > 19" long > > Thomas James Thompson > born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. > 19 3/4" long Congratulations! And wow, they're good-sized for twins! Happy holding-them-in-your arms-instead-of-your-belly... :D Debbi The Herd Prospers Maru ;) __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Twins!
Julia wrote: > Hey, folks, I'm home. > > Details on babies: > > Catherine Karling Thompson > born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. > 19" long > > Thomas James Thompson > born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. > 19 3/4" long Congratulations, Julia. :) I hope you are well and that the babies are doing fine. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
The Alpha Mail wrote: p.s. I will not be fully on top of e-mail or listmail for some time. She says, in the first of five messages in rapid succession. 8^) Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Congratulations, Julia and Dan! Glad to hear that you all are healthy and home already, I hope the induced labor wasn't as painful as the last time. By the way, how's your father in law doing? Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
Congratulations all around! Glad everybody is healthy and you have "double the joy". Dee > > Hey, folks, I'm home. > > Details on babies: > > Catherine Karling Thompson > born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. > 19" long > > Thomas James Thompson > born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. > 19 3/4" long > > Mom couldn't figure out how to get a long list of recipients into an > e-mail on the package she's using while she's here, or Nick and Adam > would have received these details on Saturday. :P She did manage to > e-mail my aunt, at any rate. :) > > I'll send out another e-mail explaining each of the names before too > much longer. > > Julia > > ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
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Re: Twins!
Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19" long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4" long Does that make him a tom-tom? :-) Way to go, Julia! __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
On Sunday, Sep 28, 2003, at 10:09 America/New_York, Jon Gabriel wrote: Congratulations Julia and Dan! :-D Jon & Robin _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Yes, welcome! Ditto on congratulations. john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
In a message dated 9/29/2003 1:36:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Catherine Karling Thompson > born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 > 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. > 19" long > > Thomas James Thompson > born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 > 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. > 19 3/4" long > Or should that be ? (Somehow I have a feeling it's not --but that's getting a bit personal.) > > I'll send out another e-mail explaining each of the names before too > much longer. > C.K. and T.J. Tag and Seak? > Julia > > p.s. I will not be fully on top of e-mail or listmail for some time. Well, you were early by my prediction. I thought you'd email at half-time. William Taylor Green Eggs and Ham has now been published in Latin. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Twins!
Julia Thompson wrote: >Hey, folks, I'm home. Glad to hear all is well. Those are some big twins! *Insert obligatory "God bless ya" people give which actually means "I'm S glad that wasn't me."* :) Jim Schadenfreud Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19" long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4" long Congratulations on the new babies, Julia! Best of luck with them! -bryon _ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins!
Julia wrote: Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 And she will probably never grow tired of reminding him that she's older... :-) Congrats, glad to hear everything came out ok. [ducking] Reggie Bautista Somebody Had To Say It Maru _ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Twins!
Hey, folks, I'm home. Details on babies: Catherine Karling Thompson born 11:32 AM on 9/26/03 6 lbs. 7.5 oz. 19" long Thomas James Thompson born 12:00 Noon on 9/26/03 8 lbs. 1.8 oz. 19 3/4" long Mom couldn't figure out how to get a long list of recipients into an e-mail on the package she's using while she's here, or Nick and Adam would have received these details on Saturday. :P She did manage to e-mail my aunt, at any rate. :) I'll send out another e-mail explaining each of the names before too much longer. Julia p.s. I will not be fully on top of e-mail or listmail for some time. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Julia's Twins
From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug Pensinger forwarded: > >...have been born: Thomas James & Katherine Carly (or Caroline or >something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received >voice mail from her husband. > Does anyone know the name [and site!] of the Hospital? Maybe they have a Web Page with newborns. Most hospitals I know of now have passworded the newborn baby web pages, for privacy/security purposes. The parents then send out announcement emails with the link and a password. BTW, congratulations, Julia! _ Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time offer-- sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
More on the Twins
But not much, Marvin relays: << My understanding is that the little girl is Katherine *Carling*. And that she was six-lbs plus something and he was 8 pounds plus something (I think.) Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Julia's Twins
Doug Pensinger forwarded: > >...have been born: Thomas James & Katherine Carly (or Caroline or >something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received >voice mail from her husband. > Does anyone know the name [and site!] of the Hospital? Maybe they have a Web Page with newborns. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
Huzzah! Let's just hope they have a better fashion sense. :) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
--- William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday, September 28, 2003, at 04:23 pm, David Hobby wrote: > > > Jon Gabriel wrote: > >> > >> Congratulations Julia and Dan! > > > > Welcome too! But the title scares me--let's hope the > > group is completely forgotten by the time they grow up... > > > > I was thinking of the characters from Herge's Tin Tin - which the group > probably got named after... Oumma Aularesso IMMHO all 3...(or is it all 6?) are greate! Welcome and congradulations! = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
On Sunday, September 28, 2003, at 04:23 pm, David Hobby wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Congratulations Julia and Dan! Welcome too! But the title scares me--let's hope the group is completely forgotten by the time they grow up... I was thinking of the characters from Herge's Tin Tin - which the group probably got named after... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > Congratulations Julia and Dan! Welcome too! But the title scares me--let's hope the group is completely forgotten by the time they grow up... ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Welcome to the Thompson Twins!
Congratulations Julia and Dan! :-D Jon & Robin _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Julia's Twins
From another list: << ...have been born: Thomas James & Katherine Carly (or Caroline or something like that). No promises on the spelling since I just received voice mail from her husband. Yay Julie! Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Fraternal Twins Share a Placenta
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > Twin mystery confounds doctors > > First case of fraternal twins sharing a placenta documented > > (AP) --Contradicting nearly all the medical textbooks, doctors have proven > for the first time that fraternal, or nonidentical, twins can share a placenta. Guess the folks at http://www.tttsfoundation.org/ will have to update their info page > Fraternal twins occur when two sperm fertilize two eggs at the same time; > they are relatively common with test tube babies because multiple embryos > are put in the uterus to increase the chances of producing a baby. They're also relatively common in cases where fertility drugs were involved to induce ovulation. And if twins run in the family, it's most likely fraternal twins. (Maybe some genetic basis for releasing more than one egg in a cycle or something?) > Riley said whether there is one placenta or two is important because if > twins share blood circulation, one can receive more of the blood, and > therefore more of the nutrients and oxygen. This is dangerous to both babies. This is called Twin-to-twin Transfusion Syndrome. As well as receiving more nutrients and oxygen, the one twin will also end up with more amniotic fluid in its amniotic sac. It's possible in some cases to treat this by doing amniocentesis repeatedly on the sac of the receiving twin. Somehow this helps the "donor" twin some. More drastic measures involving surgery on the placenta can be done as well, but that's riskier. (For more info, check out the URL I provided above.) Julia Guess what's one topic in the "possible problems" section in books about twin pregnancies? :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
SCOUTED: Fraternal Twins Share a Placenta
Twin mystery confounds doctors First case of fraternal twins sharing a placenta documented (AP) --Contradicting nearly all the medical textbooks, doctors have proven for the first time that fraternal, or nonidentical, twins can share a placenta. Until now, doctors believed that only identical twins -- which come from a single, split embryo -- can share a placenta, the mass of tissue inside the uterus that delivers nourishment to the fetus via the umbilical cord. In Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine, doctors at the University of Washington in Seattle reported that a 48-year-old woman gave birth about two years ago to male and female twins nourished by the same placenta. Each baby had his or her own umbilical cord and amniotic sac. The babies were conceived via test tube fertilization with another woman's eggs. Experts said the procedure, in which eggs and sperm are mixed in a dish and the fertilized eggs are inserted in the woman's uterus, could have somehow caused the outcome. "I think there are other cases out there" that were missed, said lead author Dr. Vivienne L. Souter. But "I think it's very rare." Fraternal twins occur when two sperm fertilize two eggs at the same time; they are relatively common with test tube babies because multiple embryos are put in the uterus to increase the chances of producing a baby. In this case, the babies were of the opposite sex, so they could not be identical twins. But the woman's doctors were puzzled over how there could be only one placenta. Initial blood tests added to the confusion, indicating a 99.9 percent likelihood the twins were identical. Exception to the rule Partly because of concerns the girl might have a rare genetic abnormality that can cause sterility, the case was referred to experts at the university, where Souter was then a fellow in medical genetics. "The parents were really anxious" about the babies, Souter said. "We examined them. They looked like a completely normal boy, a completely normal girl. I initially thought, 'This doesn't add up."' Souter consulted with top specialists, including geneticists from Australia's twin registry, and they solved the mystery by doing sophisticated DNA testing of skin from each baby to prove the twins were not identical. Their blood was similar because they shared blood circulation in the womb. "Because these things get so deeply rooted in medicine, it's very difficult to convince people that there's an exception to the rule," said Souter, who is on medical leave caring for her 3-month-old fraternal twins. Dr. Laura Riley, chairman of the obstetrics practice committee of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, said this is the first such case she knows of to be so convincingly documented. A 1970 journal report claimed this had happened, but was disregarded because of limited data. Riley said whether there is one placenta or two is important because if twins share blood circulation, one can receive more of the blood, and therefore more of the nutrients and oxygen. This is dangerous to both babies. Dr. Roger B. Newman, vice chairman of obstetrics and gynecology at Medical University of South Carolina, said this outcome is much more likely with test-tube babies. "Somewhere in laboratory or in the process back toward the mother, (the fetuses) become disrupted and fuse together," he said. Copyright 2003 The Associated Press. Find this article at: <<http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/07/10/twins.mystery.ap/index.html>> ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
Brad said: More interesting is what happens if your embryo absorbs your embryonic twin. Then you have two souls... A few years ago, I read a story in New Scientist about a boy whose blood had no father, because the ova that became him had divided and then one of the two cells had been fertilised but both began morphogenesis. That must do interesting things to souls. Rich GCU Let Us Not Speak Of Virgin Births So are you maintaining that his blood has no soul? Or are you maintaining that he has two souls--one soul being his body, the other being his blood? ROU Does This Mean Morganti Weapons Would Have No Effect on Him? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
Brad said: > More interesting is what happens if your embryo absorbs your > embryonic twin. Then you have two souls... A few years ago, I read a story in New Scientist about a boy whose blood had no father, because the ova that became him had divided and then one of the two cells had been fertilised but both began morphogenesis. That must do interesting things to souls. Rich GCU Let Us Not Speak Of Virgin Births ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
Andrew Crystall wrote: > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P Steve Sloan replied: Hmmm, I didn't know that. It sounds a lot like Minbari theology, so now I'm wondering if that's where Joe Straczynski got the idea. It's certainly possible. He has stated in many places that he got the word Minbar from the word for a pulpit in a Mosque. Reggie Bautista _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
Alberto wrote: Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is born evil. So, we can use Occam's razor, and conclude that there is just one soul in each pair. Ergo, clones will also be soulless. Occam's razor only applies when there are two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions (see http://hepweb.rl.ac.uk/ppUK/PhysFAQ/occam.html), not when different predictions are made. Reggie Bautista Just For The Record Maru :-) _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
> It seems clear that conception in human can occur both sexually and asexually. Thus, it would seem that the second soul would logically arrive at the moment of the second conception. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is born evil. So, we can use Occam's razor, and conclude that there is just one soul in each pair. Ergo, clones will also be soulless. Alberto Monteiro More interesting is what happens if your embryo absorbs your embryonic twin. Then you have two souls... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:11, Steve Sloan II wrote: > Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P > > Hmmm, I didn't know that. It sounds a lot like Minbari theology, > so now I'm wondering if that's where Joe Straczynski got the idea. All good science fictions borrows from somewhere :) Yes, I have noticed that before. It's quite clever and one of the ways many things iun B5 weave together. Sitting down and watching an episode a day, you see how many "non- story arc" episodes DO tie into the main plot. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
Andrew Crystall wrote: > Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. > There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish > souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P Hmmm, I didn't know that. It sounds a lot like Minbari theology, so now I'm wondering if that's where Joe Straczynski got the idea. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
On 16 Jan 2003 at 11:53, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > JDG wrote: > > > > It seems clear that conception in human can occur > > both sexually and asexually. Thus, it would seem > > that the second soul would logically > > arrive at the moment of the second conception. > > > Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? > It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is > born evil. So, we can use Occam's razor, and > conclude that there is just one soul in each pair. > > Ergo, clones will also be soulless. That's the christian "souls are indivisible" line. Judaism has never had a problem with souls being divided. There are only (as I recall, might be wrong) 100,000 Jewish souls out there, but some people have parts of the same one :P Gives a slightly differenr meaning to "soul mate" Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Twins and Clones are soulless [was: Child abuse]
JDG wrote: > > It seems clear that conception in human can occur > both sexually and asexually. Thus, it would seem > that the second soul would logically > arrive at the moment of the second conception. > Tsk, tsk, tsk. Have you watched any movies recently? It's obvious that, in any pair of twins, one is born evil. So, we can use Occam's razor, and conclude that there is just one soul in each pair. Ergo, clones will also be soulless. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
