Re: Tall people in subs Re: List of Veterans on the List (was Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked))
Julia Thompson wrote: When did the Navy start instituting height restrictions in subs? (Doug?) I don't really know. I know we had a few guys that were close to 6' - hell we had an A-gang* that looked like an O-line with names like Sarge, Swazie and Mongo (who was jumped in New London one night by two guys with knives and came away with a cut on his arm and a piece of one of the guys ear). In any case, it wasn't something I had to worry about. I know they had them in the 1980s, one of Dan's friends from high school who was fairly tall joined the Navy and was not allowed to serve on a sub because he was fairly tall. Maybe there was a 6' regulation, the overheads are pretty low - many pipes, conduits and the like throughout the boat so a tall guy would have to spend a lot of time hunched over. We had an XO who was slightly cross-eyed and ran into the pipes so often that at some point he was awarded a football helmet. He was aptly nicknamed Ricochet Rabbit... -- Doug GSV Back on the Ustafish *Axilliary Machinery - they took care of the diesel, hydraulic and compressed air systems as well as the atmosphere control equipment, among other things. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Kevin Tarr wrote: > > >Bad luck! 8^(. Do you know what boat your Uncle was on? > > > >I count the military as an excellent experience though I was ready to get > >back to the "real world" when my time was up. > >-- > >Doug > > My mother might know the sub names. He retired from the navy before I > was born, with 20 or 25 years. He passed away 15 years ago from cancer. > > There was a group of them from my little town that all served together > down at newport news VA. The one still living was an airplane mechanic. > He only went into a sub once at the dock and hated it; but one time he > took my uncle for a plane ride down to Florida and back, and my uncle > swore he'd never fly again and he never did. > > Another weird thing, my uncle was at least 6'2", if not taller. I'm sure > that was big for those subs during WWII and even later. Dan's uncle who served on a sub during WWII is pretty tall, at least 6'. (Dan's about 6' (more like 5' 11.5") and he's the shortest guy in that family.) When did the Navy start instituting height restrictions in subs? (Doug?) I know they had them in the 1980s, one of Dan's friends from high school who was fairly tall joined the Navy and was not allowed to serve on a sub because he was fairly tall. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: List of Veterans on the List (was Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked))
Actual reply right after my name. George A - Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:07 PM Subject: List of Veterans on the List (was Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked)) > At 04:41 PM 11/15/03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: > >>From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: > >>>>How many veterans on the list? > >>>> > >>>>I'll start the count at 1. > >>> > >>> > >>>2. > >> > >>3 > > > >Not me. (Though my wife, father, step-father, 2 brothers-in-law, and many > >of our friends and family are). I'm just chiming in to suggest maybe > >adding what branch of the service you were in, as well. > > > > How's this? (Feel free to add names or details as appropriate): > > > 1. G. D. Akin USAF, 30 years, 8 months, 23 day (says so right on my retirement orders!) 10 years, 8 months, E1-E5 doing what is now called the Crytologic Linuguist Career field; I was a Chinese and Korean linguist in the intelligence business. Then I got my commission, trading Chinese and Korean for Fortran, Pascal, COBOL, etc. and spent the rest of my career as a communications-computer officer. Retired Oct 1st 2000. > 2. Ronn! Blankenship > > USAF, O1 - O2, 1976-1979, Systems Engineer (= "responsible for > miscellaneous stuff no one could put a name to"), 6514th Test Squadron > (later 6545th Test Group), which was responsible for the testing of > unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), including all three versions of cruise > missiles (air-launched AGM-86/ALCM, sea-launched "Tomahawk", and > ground-launched GLCM) as well as some early versions of some of the stuff > used in Iraq in 1991 and recently. Got out a bit early to go back to > school and work on my doctorate after I determined that being in the USAF > wasn't going to guarantee me a slot in the astronaut program, either . . . > > > 3. Doug Pensinger > > Sub sailor, USS Narwhal, SSN 671, Nuke fast attack, based in New London and > in the yards in Charlston. E6 Sonar Tech, 1974 to 1980. > > > 4. Damon Agretto > > > > > -- Ronn! :) > > ___ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l > ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked)
At 10:36 AM 11/15/2003 -0800, you wrote: --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:39:32 -0600, Ronn!Blankenship > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: > >> How many veterans on the list? > >> > >> I'll start the count at 1. > > > > > > 2. > > > > 3 4. Damon. 5 john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Bad luck! 8^(. Do you know what boat your Uncle was on? I count the military as an excellent experience though I was ready to get back to the "real world" when my time was up. -- Doug My mother might know the sub names. He retired from the navy before I was born, with 20 or 25 years. He passed away 15 years ago from cancer. There was a group of them from my little town that all served together down at newport news VA. The one still living was an airplane mechanic. He only went into a sub once at the dock and hated it; but one time he took my uncle for a plane ride down to Florida and back, and my uncle swore he'd never fly again and he never did. Another weird thing, my uncle was at least 6'2", if not taller. I'm sure that was big for those subs during WWII and even later. Heck, I only knew my father served in the coast guard during the war. When I took my mother to see Saving Private Ryan she said dad drove a landing ship during D-day. I have his personal stuff now and found a frameable notation when he crossed the equator. Mom said she never saw it before and knew nothing about it. The services were the only way for me to go to college, I thought. My mother had re-married when I was 15 and my step father's income completely threw off my chances for low income loans and grants and stuff. I was in a college-bound program so I was able to get a late admission, but my first year was horrible, I practically flunked out. I just was not ready to be in college. I switched to a community college and got a AS, and now have a BS, but still know I messed myself up back then. Kevin T. - VRWC Just realized: that was half my life ago. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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So its details youse wants? ;) 12K (tank Loader/Driver/Gunner), USANG, 28th ID(Mech). Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kevin Tarr wrote: I'm jealous. I signed up for the early enlistment program at the earliest possible moment, 18 months before my ship out date. I got credit for three other classmates enlisting. I think the first meant I'd have extra service time credits and have been a higher pay-grade after boot camp and a straight money bonus for the other part. I was planning for the Navy's nuclear technician school, and I wanted to be on a sub like my Uncle. There was another program that would either un-enlist you and you'd go to school through the ROTC, or you could still be full time Navy but go to college at the same time; I figured I'd apply for it once my first six year commitment was done for. If everything had worked out I'd be three years away from 20 right now, maybe with a college degree, maybe not. Five months before I graduated, seven months before I was to leave, I had an intestinal problem from a childhood accident which required surgery. A week after I graduated the Navy informed me, through my HS guidance councilor, that they didn't want me. It's tough to look back now at what could have been. I'm happy with my life as it turned out so far, but I'll always wonder about the alternate universe where Things Were Different. Bad luck! 8^(. Do you know what boat your Uncle was on? I count the military as an excellent experience though I was ready to get back to the "real world" when my time was up. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: List of Veterans on the List (was Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked))
At 10:07 PM 11/15/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 04:41 PM 11/15/03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. 3 Not me. (Though my wife, father, step-father, 2 brothers-in-law, and many of our friends and family are). I'm just chiming in to suggest maybe adding what branch of the service you were in, as well. How's this? (Feel free to add names or details as appropriate): 1. G. D. Akin 2. Ronn! Blankenship USAF, O1 - O2, 1976-1979, Systems Engineer (= "responsible for miscellaneous stuff no one could put a name to"), 6514th Test Squadron (later 6545th Test Group), which was responsible for the testing of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), including all three versions of cruise missiles (air-launched AGM-86/ALCM, sea-launched "Tomahawk", and ground-launched GLCM) as well as some early versions of some of the stuff used in Iraq in 1991 and recently. Got out a bit early to go back to school and work on my doctorate after I determined that being in the USAF wasn't going to guarantee me a slot in the astronaut program, either . . . 3. Doug Pensinger Sub sailor, USS Narwhal, SSN 671, Nuke fast attack, based in New London and in the yards in Charlston. E6 Sonar Tech, 1974 to 1980. 4. Damon Agretto -- Ronn! I'm jealous. I signed up for the early enlistment program at the earliest possible moment, 18 months before my ship out date. I got credit for three other classmates enlisting. I think the first meant I'd have extra service time credits and have been a higher pay-grade after boot camp and a straight money bonus for the other part. I was planning for the Navy's nuclear technician school, and I wanted to be on a sub like my Uncle. There was another program that would either un-enlist you and you'd go to school through the ROTC, or you could still be full time Navy but go to college at the same time; I figured I'd apply for it once my first six year commitment was done for. If everything had worked out I'd be three years away from 20 right now, maybe with a college degree, maybe not. Five months before I graduated, seven months before I was to leave, I had an intestinal problem from a childhood accident which required surgery. A week after I graduated the Navy informed me, through my HS guidance councilor, that they didn't want me. It's tough to look back now at what could have been. I'm happy with my life as it turned out so far, but I'll always wonder about the alternate universe where Things Were Different. Kevin T. - VRWC The rising road ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
List of Veterans on the List (was Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked))
At 04:41 PM 11/15/03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. 3 Not me. (Though my wife, father, step-father, 2 brothers-in-law, and many of our friends and family are). I'm just chiming in to suggest maybe adding what branch of the service you were in, as well. How's this? (Feel free to add names or details as appropriate): 1. G. D. Akin 2. Ronn! Blankenship USAF, O1 - O2, 1976-1979, Systems Engineer (= "responsible for miscellaneous stuff no one could put a name to"), 6514th Test Squadron (later 6545th Test Group), which was responsible for the testing of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), including all three versions of cruise missiles (air-launched AGM-86/ALCM, sea-launched "Tomahawk", and ground-launched GLCM) as well as some early versions of some of the stuff used in Iraq in 1991 and recently. Got out a bit early to go back to school and work on my doctorate after I determined that being in the USAF wasn't going to guarantee me a slot in the astronaut program, either . . . 3. Doug Pensinger Sub sailor, USS Narwhal, SSN 671, Nuke fast attack, based in New London and in the yards in Charlston. E6 Sonar Tech, 1974 to 1980. 4. Damon Agretto -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Veterans (was Veterans Bushwhacked)
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:41:04 -0500, Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. 3 Not me. (Though my wife, father, step-father, 2 brothers-in-law, and many of our friends and family are). I'm just chiming in to suggest maybe adding what branch of the service you were in, as well. Sub sailor, USS Narwhal, SSN 671, Nuke fast attack, based in New London and in the yards in Charlston. E6 Sonar Tech, 1974 to 1980. -- Doug GSV We go up and we go down... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. 3 Not me. (Though my wife, father, step-father, 2 brothers-in-law, and many of our friends and family are). I'm just chiming in to suggest maybe adding what branch of the service you were in, as well. _ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:39:32 -0600, Ronn!Blankenship > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: > >> How many veterans on the list? > >> > >> I'll start the count at 1. > > > > > > 2. > > > > 3 4. Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum." http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:39:32 -0600, Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. 3 -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 04:36 PM 11/15/03 +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: How many veterans on the list? I'll start the count at 1. 2. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
