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Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes. -- Ronn! ;) does this meant there is some form of organic life on titan? jon Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I don't think that "organic" necessarily means "from life", but means chemicals based on Carbon. Organic usually means related to life. The word Organic is also used to describe a branch of chemistry which deals with carbon-related compounds. (Coal is made of complex organics, Diamond is a crystal of a single element, and is not a compound at all.) Exploiting the hydrocarbons on Titan is about as economically feasible as walking to Nigeria every time you want a candy bar. It isn't. There is no oxygen about, so you you'd need to bring it with you -- or else haul these hydrocarbons all the way back to earth. Not to mention the environmental catastrophes that would be caused if we tried to burn this stuff in our atmosphere. Burning our own oil has been proven to be quite bad enough, without importing thousands of times more from distant planets. The origin of these organic compounds is not fully understood. There are some chemical reactions that occur naturally in the presence of ultraviolet radiation and/or other wavelengths, that turn simple organic molecules into more complex ones. It could be that something like this is happening. Or it could be that there is indeed some kind of life on the surface there. I don't know what IANAC means either, but I got a chuckle from "I Am Not A Crook!" Curtis. thanks, curtis, it also occurred to me that transporting petrochemicals all the way from titan and down the gravity well to the planets surface would have environmental consequences. IMHO, as man begins to colonize the solar system, the environmental consequences of space industry and the refining of volatiles and other natural resources in a vacuum would be minimal. it seems unlikely to me that the organic compounds on titan could come from life. jon Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Feb 14, 2008, at 2:16 PM, jon louis mann wrote: > Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth > Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid > hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on > Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The > hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form > lakes and dunes. > -- Ronn! ;) > > does this meant there is some form of organic life on titan? IANAC, but I don't think that "organic" necessarily means "from life", but means chemicals based on Carbon. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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does this meant there is some form of organic life on titan? jon IANAC, but I don't think that "organic" necessarily means "from life", but means chemicals based on Carbon. Dave coal and diamonds are carbon base; would the oil on titan be considered synthetic unless it is produced through organic processes like the oil found on earth? what is IANAC? jon Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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jon wrote: > > what is IANAC? > I am not a crook? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 06:07 PM Thursday 2/14/2008, Doug Pensinger wrote: >jon wrote: > > > > > what is IANAC? > > > >I am not a crook? How about (in this context) "I am not a /chemist/"? But I Can Play One On TV Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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>IANAC, but I don't think that "organic" necessarily means "from life", >but means chemicals based on Carbon. Organic usually means related to life. The word Organic is also used to describe a branch of chemistry which deals with carbon-related compounds. (Coal is made of complex organics, Diamond is a crystal of a single element, and is not a compound at all.) Exploiting the hydrocarbons on Titan is about as economically feasible as walking to Nigeria every time you want a candy bar. It isn't. There is no oxygen about, so you you'd need to bring it with you -- or else haul these hydrocarbons all the way back to earth. Not to mention the environmental catastrophes that would be caused if we tried to burn this stuff in our atmosphere. Burning our own oil has been proven to be quite bad enough, without importing thousands of times more from distant planets. The origin of these organic compounds is not fully understood. There are some chemical reactions that occur naturally in the presence of ultraviolet radiation and/or other wavelengths, that turn simple organic molecules into more complex ones. It could be that something like this is happening. Or it could be that there is indeed some kind of life on the surface there. I don't know what IANAC means either, but I got a chuckle from "I Am Not A Crook!" Curtis. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 16/02/2008, at 2:58 AM, Curtis Burisch wrote: > > I don't know what IANAC means either, but I got a chuckle from "I Am > Not A > Crook!" From context, probably I Am Not A Chemist. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 2/15/2008 5:32:50 PM, Charlie Bell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On 16/02/2008, at 2:58 AM, Curtis Burisch wrote: > > > > I don't know what IANAC means either, but I got a chuckle from "I > > Am > > Not A > > Crook!" > > > From context, probably I Am Not A Chemist. > Strangely, I would have expected IANACBIPOOTV xponent Conditioned Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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NASA JPL News Release: 2008-025 Feb. 13, 2008 Titan's Surface Organics Surpass Oil Reserves on Earth Saturn's orange moon Titan has hundreds of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Earth, according to new data from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. The hydrocarbons rain from the sky, collecting in vast deposits that form lakes and dunes. -- Ronn! ;) "Humor...it is a difficult concept." --Lt. Saavik (Kirstie Alley) to Admiral Kirk (William Shatner) in _Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn_ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
