Re: mongomery protestor demographics

2003-08-28 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2003_08_24_dneiwert_archive.html#106179567260601299
 
 Behind the tablets
snip 
 One guy had a sign that read, The 10 Commandments
 or... then, on the
 other side, The 10 Planks of the Communist
 Manifesto. Now, there's a choice!
snip

Better yet, the first ten rules of the Sharia (?sp?),
or ten koans, or The Druid's Creed... snort

My understanding of the First A' is that you have the
right to plop down a 2-ton monument of the Ten
Commandments in your own front yard - unless your
homeowner's association disallows it!  :P

Debbi
cupping her ears for a certain Chihuahua's Eeediot! ;)

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Re: mongomery protestor demographics

2003-08-28 Thread William T Goodall
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 09:08  pm, The Fool wrote:
Meanwhile, in the crowd was our good friend Neal Horsley, along with 
his
scary sidekick, Jonathan Toole. The First Freedom, Olaf Childress'
patently racist (and now anti-Semitic, complete with references to the
Jew World Order) and neo-Confederate paper, was being handed out, 
along
with a variety of radical anti-abortion tracts and even several pieces 
of
literature attacking Catholics (papists, etc.).

One guy had a sign that read, The 10 Commandments or... then, on the
other side, The 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto. Now, there's a
choice!
Overall, the whole thing has had the flavor of a New Yorker cartoon, 
the
classic depicting a guy with a long white beard and a sign screaming
REPENT! Lots of sackcloths and ashes, etc. Trucks with giant photos 
of
aborted fetuses, another one painted all over with Irwin Schiff 
anti-tax
propaganda.

Of course, the chief extremist in all of this is Roy Moore.



Mark also informs me that Hutton Gibson was in the crowd. I also gather
that Flip Benham of Operation Rescue notoriety has been hanging out 
in
Montgomery. Among the other extremist participants:

-- W.N. Otwell, who leads camouflage-garbed protesters at abortion
clinics and who has protested race-mixing, calling America a white
man's country.
-- Greg Dixon, the leader of the extremist Indianapolis Baptist Temple.

-- Michael Hill, president of the neo-Confederate (and definitively
racist, not to mention openly secessionist) League of the South.
-- John Cripps, a noted neo-Confederate.

Yes, but their beliefs make them happier and healthier, so that's OK 
then :)

--
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever 
that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the 
majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish 
than sensible.
- Bertrand Russell

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mongomery protestor demographics

2003-08-27 Thread The Fool
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2003_08_24_dneiwert_archive.html#106179567260
601299

Behind the tablets

Here's an interesting and amusing report from Mark Potok of the Southern
Poverty Law Center, which is located in Montgomery, Alabama, site of this
week's excitement over the Ten Commandments:

Just in case anyone's wondering about extremist content in re the 10
Commandments brouhaha in Montgomery:

Last Saturday, the rally for the 10 Commandments included as speakers
Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party (formerly USTP), along with
Jerry Falwell and Alan Keyes and a number of lesser lights. The crowd was
about 50 percent neo-Confederate, with flags and such, even though
organizers were supposedly turning Confederate flags away. The crowd was
working class and overwhelmingly white -- a careful count by me concluded
that out of a maximum 2,000 present (it may have been closer to 1,500),
there were at most 20 black faces. 

A funny moment came when a clueless Falwell invoked Martin Luther King,
saying that Roy Moore was just like King. The entire crowd skipped a beat
.. silence ... and then the most tepid applause you ever heard.

Later, Falwell compounded the error by referring to America as a land of
immigrants, and actually quoted Emma Lazarus. This time, the crowd's
answer was deafening silence.

Ha ha ha ha ha. You'd think by now Falwell would remember who his
audience is.

Meanwhile, in the crowd was our good friend Neal Horsley, along with his
scary sidekick, Jonathan Toole. The First Freedom, Olaf Childress'
patently racist (and now anti-Semitic, complete with references to the
Jew World Order) and neo-Confederate paper, was being handed out, along
with a variety of radical anti-abortion tracts and even several pieces of
literature attacking Catholics (papists, etc.).

One guy had a sign that read, The 10 Commandments or... then, on the
other side, The 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto. Now, there's a
choice!

Overall, the whole thing has had the flavor of a New Yorker cartoon, the
classic depicting a guy with a long white beard and a sign screaming
REPENT! Lots of sackcloths and ashes, etc. Trucks with giant photos of
aborted fetuses, another one painted all over with Irwin Schiff anti-tax
propaganda.

Of course, the chief extremist in all of this is Roy Moore.

FYI, I would say that public opinion in Alabama (yes, Alabama) is running
against Moore. You can see this in the TV coverage, the letters to the
editor page, the people you hear on the street. Moore is seen as
incredibly arrogant (moving the thing in in the middle of the night,
etc.) and not particularly charismatic. God willing (so to speak), he has
no chance to be our next governor, which is the real underlying program
here. There have been a lot of arrests (30-plus), but they seem to all be
of professional arrestees (that is, anti-abortion activists, most from
out of state, who make a practice of getting arrested as a routine
political matter.)

Mark also informs me that Hutton Gibson was in the crowd. I also gather
that Flip Benham of Operation Rescue notoriety has been hanging out in
Montgomery. Among the other extremist participants:

-- W.N. Otwell, who leads camouflage-garbed protesters at abortion
clinics and who has protested race-mixing, calling America a white
man's country. 

-- Greg Dixon, the leader of the extremist Indianapolis Baptist Temple.

-- Michael Hill, president of the neo-Confederate (and definitively
racist, not to mention openly secessionist) League of the South.

-- John Cripps, a noted neo-Confederate.

I wonder how many supposedly mainstream Christians are embracing these
people's quest? 

--
Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now
doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same
thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the
liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the
Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry
directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything
suffered by any minority in history.
-- Pat Robertson
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