[Bro-Dev] "bro" name is non-inclusive? (Contribution is rejected based )

[Vitaly Repin]

Hello,

I would like to bring your attention to one strange and unexpected problem
I faced
while trying to include user agent parser for bro I have developed (plugin:
https://github.com/vitalyrepin/uap-bro ) into the list of uap
implementations https://github.com/ua-parser

The req
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[Bro-Dev] "bro" name is non-inclusive? (Contribution is rejected based )

[Vitaly Repin]

Hello,

I would like to bring your attention to one strange and extremely
unexpected difficulty I faced
while trying to include user agent parser for bro I have developed (plugin:
https://github.com/vitalyrepin/uap-bro ) into the list of uap
implementations https://github.com/ua-parser

The request I have made has been rejected:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ua-parser/nJEc6SZIxyU

The reason:

/quote begin/

While I understand that you're not responsible for the unfortunate name of
the Bro language, and while it might be that the name references an
Orwellian "Big Brother" more than it refers to bro culture, I still can't
get behind including or linking to a project in a language that has such a
non-inclusive name.

That obviously sucks for the effort you've put into this project, and sucks
for Bro users that won't be able to find easily. But overall, it sucks even
more for women who feel excluded from programming because of such poor
naming choices.

Of course, I’ll happily include your project if the programming language
changes name.
/quote end/

It sounded very weird for me originally. But I have googled for "bro" and
"non inclusive" and found this discussion:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121268

Have anybody faced this problem before? Has it been discussed in any way in
the bro community?

I think it might be a good idea to have at least an article with
explanation of the origins of the "bro" name and the stand towards
inclusiveness. (Not sure it will help with ua-parser project, however).

Thanks!
P.S. Sorry for the partial mail sent  a couple of minutes ago.
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Re: [Bro-Dev] "bro" name is non-inclusive? (Contribution is rejected based )

[Slagell, Adam J]

The project announced that it is changing its name this fall. We are still in 
the process of doing this.

See http://blog.bro.org/2017/10/a-new-name-for-bro-project.html

There was also a note in early January noting that the project was seeking 
outside help from a branding firm, and so there are delays to the original 
schedule. That was on the main Bro list.

On Mar 9, 2018, at 12:03 AM, Vitaly Repin 
mailto:vital...@seed4.me>> wrote:

Hello,

I would like to bring your attention to one strange and extremely unexpected 
difficulty I faced
while trying to include user agent parser for bro I have developed (plugin: 
https://github.com/vitalyrepin/uap-bro
 ) into the list of uap implementations 
https://github.com/ua-parser

The request I have made has been rejected: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ua-parser/nJEc6SZIxyU

The reason:

/quote begin/

While I understand that you're not responsible for the unfortunate name of the 
Bro language, and while it might be that the name references an Orwellian "Big 
Brother" more than it refers to bro culture, I still can't get behind including 
or linking to a project in a language that has such a non-inclusive name.

That obviously sucks for the effort you've put into this project, and sucks for 
Bro users that won't be able to find easily. But overall, it sucks even more 
for women who feel excluded from programming because of such poor naming 
choices.

Of course, I’ll happily include your project if the programming language 
changes name.
/quote end/

It sounded very weird for me originally. But I have googled for "bro" and "non 
inclusive" and found this discussion: 
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121268

Have anybody faced this problem before? Has it been discussed in any way in the 
bro community?

I think it might be a good idea to have at least an article with explanation of 
the origins of the "bro" name and the stand towards inclusiveness. (Not sure it 
will help with ua-parser project, however).

Thanks!
P.S. Sorry for the partial mail sent  a couple of minutes ago.
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Re: [Bro-Dev] "bro" name is non-inclusive? (Contribution is rejected based )

[Seth Hall]

Hi Vitaly!

We renamed Bro to Zeek a couple of days ago.  You should be good to reach out 
to the person that runs the ua-parser project and let them know so that your 
parser can be included on their webpage. 

If you need to give evidence of the name change, it's provided here:
  http://blog.bro.org/2018/10/renaming-bro-project_11.html

Thanks for writing the uap plugin!
   .Seth

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> On Mar 9, 2018, at 12:55 AM, Vitaly Repin  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to bring your attention to one strange and unexpected problem I 
> faced
> while trying to include user agent parser for bro I have developed (plugin: 
> https://github.com/vitalyrepin/uap-bro ) into the list of uap implementations 
> https://github.com/ua-parser
> 
> The req
> --
> WBR & WBW, Vitaly
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> bro-dev@bro.org
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