Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-30 Thread Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
Hi Mosè

Am 28.5.2014 schrieb Mosè Giordano:
 What exactly does C-c C-s in your case?
Normally, I can set a section with C-c C-s, now it tries to end an open 
environment.

 In the menu bar is there only
 TeX or also Command?  In the former case you're using the TeX mode
 bundled with Emacs, in the latter case you're using AUCTeX but with
 plain-tex-mode and that would explain why C-c C-s doesn't work (it's
 defined only in AUCTeX latex-mode).
 You can see whether AUCTeX has been enabled in a TeX/LaTeX file if the
 TeX or LaTeX menu contains references to AUCTeX.
There is no Command and no LaTeX menu, and there are no references to 
AUCTeX in the TeX menu. So AUCTeX is clearly not loaded.

Bye,Salome


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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-28 Thread Tassilo Horn
g...@scheiberspace.ch g...@scheiberspace.ch writes:

Hi!

 Removing the 'turn-on-auctex line doesn't make a difference.  Thanks
 anyway for the hint that the function does not exist (anymore??  I
 can't remember where I got it from).

It has never existed in AUCTeX itself, but of course it might be that
you've defined that function yourself in your ~/.emacs.

Anyway, I've just tried again with a test user account and no ~/.emacs
and ~/.emacs.d/, and Emacs 24.3.

1. Start emacs
2. `M-x list-packages'
3. `i' on auctex 11.87.5 followed by `x'
4. `C-x C-f ~/foo.tex RET'
5. The file is found and the buffer is in AUCTeX TeX-latex-mode, i.e.,
   `C-h v major-mode' says its `latex-mode', and `C-h f latex-mode' says:

,[ C-h f latex-mode ]
| latex-mode is an alias for `TeX-latex-mode' in `tex-site.el'.
| 
| (latex-mode)
| 
| Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files.
| See info under AUCTeX for full documentation.
| [...]
`

Bye,
Tassilo

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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-28 Thread David Kastrup
Tassilo Horn t...@gnu.org writes:

 g...@scheiberspace.ch g...@scheiberspace.ch writes:

 Hi!

 Removing the 'turn-on-auctex line doesn't make a difference.  Thanks
 anyway for the hint that the function does not exist (anymore??  I
 can't remember where I got it from).

 It has never existed in AUCTeX itself, but of course it might be that
 you've defined that function yourself in your ~/.emacs.

 Anyway, I've just tried again with a test user account and no ~/.emacs
 and ~/.emacs.d/, and Emacs 24.3.

 1. Start emacs
 2. `M-x list-packages'
 3. `i' on auctex 11.87.5 followed by `x'
 4. `C-x C-f ~/foo.tex RET'
 5. The file is found and the buffer is in AUCTeX TeX-latex-mode, i.e.,
`C-h v major-mode' says its `latex-mode', and `C-h f latex-mode' says:

 ,[ C-h f latex-mode ]
 | latex-mode is an alias for `TeX-latex-mode' in `tex-site.el'.
 | 
 | (latex-mode)
 | 
 | Major mode in AUCTeX for editing LaTeX files.
 | See info under AUCTeX for full documentation.
 | [...]
 `

Might be worth starting emacs with

emacs --debug-init

I suspect that the startup aborts early.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-28 Thread g...@scheiberspace.ch

Am Di 27 Mai 2014 08:49:56 CEST schrieb Tassilo Horn:


Salome Södergran salome.soederg...@gmx.ch writes:


For debugging I have a minimal init-file containing the following
lines

(setq debug-on-error t)
(require 'package)
(package-initialize)
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-auctex)


As said by Mosè, you shouldn't need to require anything.


When I open a tex-file the major mode is LaTeX but AUCTeX is not
loaded. Where's the fault?


With the above, you should get an error when opening a tex file because
`turn-on-auctex' is no existing function (unless it's defined by
yourself).

Bye,
Tassilo


Removing the 'turn-on-auctex line doesn't make a difference.
Thanks anyway for the hint that the function does not exist (anymore??  
I can't remember where I got it from).

bye, salome

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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-28 Thread g...@scheiberspace.ch

Am Mo 26 Mai 2014 23:20:04 CEST schrieb Mosè Giordano:


Hi Salome,

2014-05-26 11:30 GMT+02:00 Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
salome.soederg...@gmx.ch:

With this minimal init-file everything works fine:

   (setq debug-on-error t)
   (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)
   (require 'tex-site)
   (require 'package)
   (package-initialize)

Both the auctex-path and require are needed before the package-functions.
What would I have to change to make AUCTeX work without (require 'tex-site)?


An empty or non-existing `.emacs' works  for me (i.e., AUCTeX is
automatically loaded by the package manager), I can't understand why
you insist on requiring `tex-site'.

Bye,
Mosè



I do not insist on it, I'd rather not use it if I don't need to. But  
with an empty '.emacs' or emacs -q, AUCTeX seems not to be loaded  
here. Or maybe it is but something else is missing? How can I know if  
AUCTeX is loaded?
When I start with an empty '.emacs' and then open a tex-file, I have  
TeX in the menu bar but not LaTeX (as I used to). Commands as C-c  
C-s do not what I'd expect them to do.

Confused: Salome

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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-26 Thread Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
Hi Mosè

Am 25.5.2014 schrieb Mosè Giordano:
 Hi Salome,
 
 2014-05-24 16:06 GMT+02:00 Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
 salome.soederg...@gmx.ch:
  With lots of try-and-error I managed to solve my problem with:
   Error: (error Recursive `require' for feature `tex-site')
  .
  I think the two decisive things were the following:
 
  1st, adding the auctex-path explicitly to the load path:
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)
 
2nd, putting (require 'tex-site) in the right place, e.g. /before/
(require 'package)
(package-initialize)
 
  Everything's up and running again :-)
  Salome
 
 if you install a package using the Emacs package manager you don't
 need to load it using a `require'.
 
 Bye,
 Mosè

Thank you for the hint.
Without require AUCTeX is not loaded.


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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-26 Thread Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
Hi Mosè

(The other post went off too early, sorry!)

Am 25.5.2014 schrieb Mosè Giordano:
 Hi Salome,
 
 2014-05-24 16:06 GMT+02:00 Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
 salome.soederg...@gmx.ch:
  With lots of try-and-error I managed to solve my problem with:
   Error: (error Recursive `require' for feature `tex-site')
  .
  I think the two decisive things were the following:
 
  1st, adding the auctex-path explicitly to the load path:
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)
 
2nd, putting (require 'tex-site) in the right place, e.g. /before/
(require 'package)
(package-initialize)
 
  Everything's up and running again :-)
  Salome
 
 if you install a package using the Emacs package manager you don't
 need to load it using a `require'.
 
 Bye,
 Mosè

Thank you for the hint.
I've tried it a few more times with different settings.

For debugging  I have a  minimal init-file containing the following lines

(setq debug-on-error t)
(require 'package)
(package-initialize)
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-auctex)

When I open a tex-file the major mode is LaTeX but  AUCTeX is not loaded. 
Where's the fault?

Thanks for your help!
Salome



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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-26 Thread Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
Am 25.5.2014 schrieb Mosè Giordano:
 Hi Salome,
 
 2014-05-24 16:06 GMT+02:00 Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
 salome.soederg...@gmx.ch:
  With lots of try-and-error I managed to solve my problem with:
   Error: (error Recursive `require' for feature `tex-site')
  .
  I think the two decisive things were the following:
 
  1st, adding the auctex-path explicitly to the load path:
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)
 
2nd, putting (require 'tex-site) in the right place, e.g. /before/
(require 'package)
(package-initialize)
 
  Everything's up and running again :-)
  Salome
 
 if you install a package using the Emacs package manager you don't
 need to load it using a `require'.
 
 Bye,
 Mosè

With this minimal init-file everything works fine:

   (setq debug-on-error t)
   (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)
   (require 'tex-site)
   (require 'package)
   (package-initialize)

Both the auctex-path and require are needed before the package-functions.
What would I have to change to make AUCTeX work without (require 'tex-site)?

greets, salome

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Re: [Bug-AUCTeX] [SOLVED] recursive require

2014-05-25 Thread Mosè Giordano
Hi Salome,

2014-05-24 16:06 GMT+02:00 Salome =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6dergran
salome.soederg...@gmx.ch:
 With lots of try-and-error I managed to solve my problem with:
  Error: (error Recursive `require' for feature `tex-site')
 .
 I think the two decisive things were the following:

 1st, adding the auctex-path explicitly to the load path:
   (add-to-list 'load-path ~/.emacs.d/elpa/auctex-11.87.5)

   2nd, putting (require 'tex-site) in the right place, e.g. /before/
   (require 'package)
   (package-initialize)

 Everything's up and running again :-)
 Salome

if you install a package using the Emacs package manager you don't
need to load it using a `require'.

Bye,
Mosè

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