Re: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

2008-08-18 Thread Jim Meyering
Michael Alston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Question:

 Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

Yes.  Some time ago.

 Why does:

% sort -5 myfile

 no longer sort myfile by keying off of column 5?

That precise syntax never worked.
However, syntax like this used to be the norm:

sort +3 -5 myfile

Now, while that is still supported, you usually have to
go through hoops (set the _POSIX2_VERSION envvar to some small number)
to make it work.  For details, read info coreutils standards
and then the section on sort.


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Re: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

2008-08-18 Thread Jim Meyering
 Which website does the best job of presenting usage examples for the sort 
 command, for a non-CS major?

You can start with the examples in info coreutils sort.


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RE: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

2008-08-18 Thread Michael Alston
Jim,

 

You've taught me to fish, big time!

 

I've been using Unix/Linux systems for decades and was only familiar
with the man command for looking up commands.

 

This info coreutils help feature is very informative, on the sort
command and many others.

 

What else have I been in the dark about?

 

I guess its true ... Ya don't know what Ya don't know.

 

BR,

Mike

a.k.a. Rip Van Winkle

 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Meyering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 12:55 PM
To: Michael Alston
Cc: bug-coreutils@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

 

 Which website does the best job of presenting usage examples for the
sort command, for a non-CS major?

 

You can start with the examples in info coreutils sort.

 

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Re: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

2008-08-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Michael Alston wrote:
 This info coreutils help feature is very informative, on the sort
 command and many others.
 ...
 What else have I been in the dark about?

You might find the GNU standards manual interesting reading.

  http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/GNU-Manuals.html#GNU-Manuals

  http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/index.html

Bob


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Re: Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

2008-08-14 Thread Eric Blake
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According to Michael Alston on 8/14/2008 6:42 PM:
 Question:
 
 Did the options for the Unix sort command change?

No.  GNU sort has never accepted a digit as an option, nor does POSIX
require it:
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/sort.html

However, I have no idea if you were used to another implementation of sort
that might have provided -digit as an extension, probably short for
- -kdigit.

 
 Why does:
 
% sort -5 myfile 
 
 no longer sort myfile by keying off of column 5?

Column 5 or field 5?  On the assumption that you might have mistyped:

% sort -k5 myfile

then this behavior is most likely a misunderstanding on your part.  That
particular command means to sort using the fifth and subsequent fields as
the sort key.  Finally, if you want to sort by the fifth field only, then
you would use:

% sort -k5,5 myfile

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