[Bug-gnubg] Save position as HTML
Hi, just downloaded a new version of gnubg (0.90-mingw 20090518). Tried do save a position in HTML format. But no file is produced. I tried it in a couple of directories, but it does not work. Regards, Hardy -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Save position as HTML
Hi, I have to add: This was done on a Windows XP computer. Hardy Hardy Hübener schrieb: Hi, just downloaded a new version of gnubg (0.90-mingw 20090518). Tried do save a position in HTML format. But no file is produced. I tried it in a couple of directories, but it does not work. Regards, Hardy -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Predicted time for finishing the rollout
Hi everyone, don't know whether this has ever been discussed here. If so, disregard my mail. When you conduct a rollout and find out that the result is not significant enough and resume this rollout with more trials, the time prediction how long this rollout will last is of no use. I think GNUBG is calculating the remaining time from how long it took to reach the previous rollout. As the rollout started with the previous result, it took GNUBG 0 (zero) seconds to reach this amount of trials. So if I prolong a 1296 trials rollout to 2592 trials GNUBG is predicting that the rollout will be finished in a couple of seconds. However it's going to take hours (of course). Perhaps another algorithm could be used to calculate the remaining time more accurate. (There are more important features, but as I do many rollouts, it's sometimes helpful how long a rollout is going to take approximately.) Thanks, Hardy -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] 0.9 mingw 20090313 - Match information
Thx Jon, just as I feared ... I was blind ;-) Cheers, Hardy Jonathan Kinsey schrieb: Hardy Hübener wrote: Where did the Match Information go? In the older version I could add match information to a match via Game - Match Information. I can't find this any more. Was this feature deleted or am I just blind? It's hiding under File - Match Information... Jon Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. Try it Now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Backgammon .txt format
Hi John, I think you are mixing up three different things. 1) This one: GNU Backgammon Position ID: 4NvBwQDgc8UBMA Match ID : cAkA +24-23-22-21-20-19--18-17-16-15-14-13-+ O: Weiss | X O | | O O X | 0 points | X O | | O O X | | O | | O X | | O | | | | O | | | | |BAR| |v (Cube: 1) | X | | | | X | | | | X | | X O | | X | | O X O | On roll | X | | O X X X O | 0 points +-1--2--3--4--5--6---7--8--9-10-11-12-+ X: Schwarz This is not an input format for GNUBG, but an ASCII-output, with which you can display a position as a text file (i.e. in a newsgroup like rec.games.backgammon). It's not possible to import a position from that text (only by copypasting the Position Match ID to GNUBG). 2) This one: 17 point match Game 1 Hans Kr. Mathiesen : 0 Hans Liby : 0 1) 42: 8/4 6/4 52: 24/22 13/8 2) 43: 13/9 6/3* 54: 25/20 24/20 3) 44: 24/20 24/20 13/9 13/9 51: 8/3 3/2 4) 51: 9/4 4/3 31: 6/3 3/2 5) 54: 13/9 13/8 65: 13/7 8/3 6) 22: 20/18* 20/18 18/16 18/16 53: 25/20 6/3 7) 32: 9/6 6/4 61: 20/14 14/13 8) 52: 8/3 4/2 54: 13/8 8/4 9) 32: 4/1 3/1 21: 8/7 6/4 10) 61: 9/8 9/3 53: 13/8 8/5 11) 65: 8/2 6/1 65: 8/3 7/1 12) 55: 16/11 16/11 11/6 11/6 52: 13/11 13/8 13) Doubles = 2 Drops Wins 1 point Game 2 Hans Kr. Mathiesen : 1 Hans Liby : 0 1) 41: 13/9 6/5 2) 65: 24/18 18/13 63: 24/18 8/5 3) 31: 8/5 6/5 61: 24/18 6/5 4) 66: 24/18 8/2 8/2 33: 13/10 13/10 10/7* 10/7 5) 32: 25/22 6/4 Doubles = 2 6) Takes 11: 9/8 6/5 5/4 5/4 7) 32: 13/10 6/4 41: 8/4 4/3* 8) 11: 25/24 24/23 23/22* 10/9 55: 9) 64: 22/16 13/9 62: 10) 11: 16/15 15/14 9/8 9/8 65: 11) Doubles = 4 Drops Wins 2 points This is the original JellyFish format. It can be used as an input for GNUBG (and Snowie and JellyFish). It is normally a file with either the ending .mat (for match) or .txt (as it is a normal text file). GNUBG can also save matches in this format. However, no analysis is saved with this format. 3) Snowie has it's own text format for output of analyzed matches which looks like that: File: F:\Matches\Snowie-Format\tmp\2000 MC Runde 1 Jrgen Granstedt vs. Rolf Vetsch 17pts.txt, 19:14:23, 01.03.2009 Snowie4 Professional Edition Version 4.02 Output (Export v2.10) | Vetsch (X) vs. Granstedt (O) | | 17 point Match | - Game 01 -- Match to 17. Score X-O: 13-10 -- Move 1 X - X to play (4 1) +24-23-22-21-20-19---18-17-16-15-14-13-+ | X O | | O X | | X O | | O X | | O | | O X | S | O | | X | n | O | | X | o | |BAR| | w | X | | O | i | X | | O | e | X | | X O | | O X | | X O | | O X | | X O | +-1--2--3--4--5--67--8--9-10-11-12-+ Pipcount X: 167 O: 167 X-O: 13-10/17 (1) CubeValue: 1 * 1. 3 24/23 13/9 Eq.: -0,032 0,4% 13,0% 49,4% 50,6% 12,3% 0,4% 2. 3 13/8 Eq.: -0,054 (-0,022) 0,4% 12,1% 49,1% 50,9% 12,6% 0,4% 3. 3 24/20 24/23 Eq.: -0,055 (-0,023) 0,4% 11,1% 49,3% 50,7% 12,3% 0,4% 4. 3 13/9 6/5 Eq.: -0,073 (-0,042) 0,4% 13,0% 48,5% 51,5% 13,1% 0,4% 5. 3 24/20 6/5 Eq.: -0,091 (-0,059) 0,4% 11,6% 48,5% 51,5% 13,2% 0,4% 6. 3 13/9 8/7 Eq.: -0,172 (-0,140) 0,4% 12,5% 46,2% 53,8% 14,1% 0,5% 7. 3 24/23 6/2 Eq.: -0,175 (-0,143) 0,4% 11,2% 46,2% 53,8% 14,0% 0,5% 8. 2 24/20 8/7 Eq.: -0,167 (-0,135) 0,3% 11,1% 46,3% 53,7% 14,1% 0,5% 9. 2 24/23 8/4 Eq.: -0,178 (-0,147) 0,3% 11,2% 45,9% 54,1% 14,2% 0,5% 10. 2 8/3 Eq.: -0,211 (-0,179) 0,4% 11,4% 45,2% 54,8% 14,9% 0,6% 11. 2 8/4 6/5 Eq.: -0,243 (-0,211) 0,3% 10,8% 44,4% 55,6% 15,3% 0,5% 12. 2 6/2 6/5 Eq.: -0,249 (-0,217) 0,3% 10,5% 44,4% 55,6% 15,5% 0,5% 13. 2 8/7 6/2 Eq.: -0,302 (-0,270) 0,3% 10,5% 43,1% 56,9% 16,4% 0,6% 14. 1 8/4 8/7 Eq.: -0,393 (-0,361) 0,2% 9,9% 40,5% 59,5% 16,9% 0,6% So what of the formats are you talking of? What do you want to do with it? The usual format to record matches is the text file originated from good old JellyFish (# 2). Hope this helps, Hardy ;-) John schrieb: Hi List, It would seem I was on the wrong tack with my last e-mail. Having done a lot of Googling and playing with Snowie I've found the text format to be the following: Match Length;?;?;?;?;Top Player Name 1 (White);Bottom Player Name -1 (Black);?;Top Player;Bottom Player;Cube Level;Cube Owner;Bar;Point 24;Point 23;Point 22;Point 21;Point 20;Point 19;Point 18;Point 17;Point 16;Point 15;Point 14;Point 13;Point 12;Point 11;Point 10;Point 9;Point 8;Point 7;Point 6;Point 5;Point 4;Point 3;Point 2;Point 1;?;Die 1;Die 2; If I've got it wrong or someone knows what the ? represent I'd be grateful. TIA, John ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Backgammon .txt format
Sorry to say, but there is no format for a single position, that is compatible with GNUBG, SNOWIE and JellyFish. Cheers, Hardy John schrieb: All I want to achieve is a text file (or some other file format that they'll all recognise) that's importable by Snowie, Jellyfish and GNUBG that'll describe a position, cube and score in a match. The user can then use one of those 3 programs to analyse the position etc. The Jellyfish format is a history of the moves that create the end position. I just want the end position. Thanks for your interest, John. John -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Building gnubg from source on a Open Suse 11.1 computer
Hi Michael, Christian and all, thx for your outstanding support!!! I finally managed to make it through the make and make install, as far as I could see, without errors. When I start gnubg by typing gnubg in the terminal, I get the following message: GNU Backgammon 0.90.0 Copyright (C) 2008 by the AUTHORS; for details type `show version'. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `show warranty'. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `show copying' for details. Segmentation fault So there is a segmentation fault and gnubg is not running. Any idea? I use the SNAPSHOT-20090220. Cheers, Hardy -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Building gnubg from source on a Open Suse 11.1 computer
Thx Christian, that's what gdb reports when I try to start gnubg: Starting program: /usr/local/bin/gnubg [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] GNU Backgammon 0.90.0 Copyright (C) 2008 by the AUTHORS; for details type `show version'. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `show warranty'. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `show copying' for details. [New Thread 0x7fffe9fa5950 (LWP 17936)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 0x7fffe9fa5950 (LWP 17936)] 0x004915f9 in MT_WorkerThreadFunction (id=0x4ba87b0) at multithread.c:336 336 multithread.c: No such file or directory. in multithread.c (gdb) bt #0 0x004915f9 in MT_WorkerThreadFunction (id=0x4ba87b0) at multithread.c:336 Cannot access memory at address 0xe9fa5018 What does this tell me (or you)? Regards, Hardy Christian Anthon schrieb: Seems you are hitting all the hard rocks. Please do the following install gdb through yast, if it isn't installed on your system already. Then in a terminal type gdb gnubg and in the gdb prompt run and after the crash in the gdb prompt bt We may need to install some debug libraries and compile with debug symbols in gnubg, but let's try without it. Christian. -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Building gnubg from source on a Open Suse 11.1 computer
Hi everyone, I know this is not a helpdesk for GNUBG or Linux, but perhaps someone can help me getting GNUBG run on my Open Suse 11.1 (x86_64) computer (standard installation). I am not that familiar with Linux, but wanna give it a try. But what's the use of having a computer if GNUBG is not running on it?!?! The steps for building GBUBG from source on UBUNTU don't work for Open Suse Linux. Can anyone please give me advice, which steps to take to convert the source into a runable GNUBG version on my computer? Many thanks in advance! Cheers, Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Building gnubg from source on a Open Suse 11.1 computer
Thx Christian for your help! When trying to install the required development libraries I can't find cairo2 and gmp3. When typing ./autogen.sh (being at the top level of the unzipped gnubg install files) I get the error No such file or directory. Hardy Christian Anthon schrieb: I'm not too familiar with suse, but it shouldn't be too difficult. I assume that you have the source already. In the top level directory is a file called INSTALL. Here the tools that you need are listed. Install them using the normal yast installation tool. Then you need the development libraries listed in the file. On suse I believe they are called something like gtk2-devel, glib2-devel, libpng-devel Install all those as well. Now the top level directory you type ./autogen.sh ./configure --enable-threads make and as root make install That should be it. Otherwise report back with more exact problems. Christian. -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Building gnubg from source on a Open Suse 11.1 computer
Hi Christian, I fear this is a I don't understand Linux problem :-( I have downloaded the current soure and unzipped it into the directory /root/gnubg-source/ Then I started a Terminal, changed into that directory and typed ./autogen.sh. The directory does contain a file called autogen.sh. Nevertheless I get the error No such file or directory. I am confused. Hardy :-? Christian Anthon schrieb: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Hardy Hübener webmas...@hardyhuebener.de wrote: Thx Christian for your help! When trying to install the required development libraries I can't find cairo2 and gmp3. I think that Cairo will be installed already because of gtk. gmp doesn't matter. When typing ./autogen.sh (being at the top level of the unzipped gnubg install files) I get the error No such file or directory. That is a bit weird. Is there a file named autogen.sh in the directory? Where did you get the source.? Does bash autogen.sh work? Christian. -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Gnubg website
Achim Mueller schrieb: * boomslang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080207 07:23]: Hi, I just visited www.gnubg.org and I see a message about the German political parties SPD, CDU and CSU. What's going on? It's a EU guideline regarding data retention, concerning all EU countries. To be more precise perhaps: It's the protest campaign against that. Hardy - a bit small-minded today :) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] GPL License / Usage of graphics for a book
Øystein Johansen schrieb: I think the best solution would be to make a cairo based board renderer. I have thought of this several times, but I don't manage to get the motivation to implement such a thing. I also think Christian started something? Most book authors use the Monte Carlo (TM) Font. An example how this looks can be found following this link: http://www.hardyhuebener.de/tmp/mc_font_example.jpg Advantage: Easy to look at, see all details, not using too much ink. Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] GPL License / Usage of graphics for a book
Thomas Steiner schrieb: I think one can create graphics by GNU Backgammon that are better for black/white printing. So it would make sense to create an extra (b/w or color) printing theme as one of the standard themes, right? Thomas I just experimented with GNU Backgammon's board designs. It's not as easy as I expected to create diagrams that are good for print. I think it would be very helpful indeed to have a special design that is optimized for black/white printing. It should have a high contrast and should use as little ink as possible. Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Rollout Settings via Buttons a, b, etc.
Hi, today I downloaded the current GNUBG install archive and was happy like a little child to see those buttons a, b etc. to start a rollout iaw. rollout settings i.a.w. a.rol, b.rol, etc. Great!!! But this feature is only available for moves, not for cube decisions. What's the reasoning behind that? I see the same need to conduct rollouts with different settings for cube decisions as for checker play problems. Cheers, Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Rollout presets
That's great news How many buttons are there? Five? I propose to discuss standard settings at www.gammonu.com, where the best players meet, including Neil Kazaross. I presently use 4 different sets of settings for rollouts. Hardy ;-) On 24.07.2007 16:16 Massimiliano Maini wrote: hi, in the latest code there're the new A, B, ... E buttons allowing to quick-load rollout settings (stored in files a.rol, b.rol, etc). Would it make sense to provide some standard settings ? Something like: A -- quick 0-ply rollout B -- 2-ply truncated C -- 2-ply full Most of the players I've been speaking with (including strong ones) are way too scared by the complexity of the rollout settings. If I'm not wrong, Snowie has something similar (quick rollout + precise rollout) ... MaX. -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Rollout presets
On 24.07.2007 17:26 Massimiliano Maini wrote: Hmm ... gammonu.com is not a free site, you have to subscribe. And I do think that this kind of discussion should take place on this mailing list. Okay, here are my standard settings: A: Quick and dirty cubeless: 324 rollouts, Checkerplay: expert B: Quick and dirty, cubefull: 324 rollouts, Cube: World Class C: Normal: 648 rollouts, Cube World Class, Checker: first 3 moves World Class, follow-on moves: Expert D: Precise: 1296 rollouts, Cube World Class, Checker: first 7 moves World Class, follow-on moves: Expert For all I use: no truncation, variance reduction, quasi-radom dice. Any other ideas? Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Export error for JellyFish mat-files
Hi everyone, I still use the mat-format frequently to archive matches. I just recognized a bug of gnubg (both 0.15 and 0.16) when exporting matches into mat format under the following condition: One player still has some chances, rolls his dice, doesn't roll the required rolls and resigns after rolling without having moved his checkers. The sgf-file will contain the rolled dice and the resignation. The exported mat file however does not show the rolled dice. Instead the mat file will contain the dice and moves done by the _other_ play before. Here a little example from a match of this year's World Championship (thanks, ace): That's how game 1 was actually played. After rolling 41 player BLACK resigned in game 1: 17 point match Game 1 WHITE : 0 BLACK : 0 1) 53: 8/3 6/3 54: 13/8 24/20 2) 31: 8/5* 6/553: 3) Doubles = 2Takes 4) 51: 13/8 24/23 32: 25/23 24/21 5) 63: 13/7 7/4* 51: 25/24 6/1* 6) 33: 25/22 13/10 10/7 7/453: 8/3* 6/3 7) 22: 25/23 23/21 6/4 4/2*64: 8) 22: 13/11 8/6 6/4 4/2 42: 9) 64: 11/5 5/1* 41: 25/24* 10) 52: 25/20 13/11 52: 11) 32: 21/18 8/6 61: 25/24 13/7* 12) 21: 25/24* 20/18* 34: 13) 11: 11/10 6/5 5/4 4/3 63: 14) 61: 24/18 3/2 65: 15) 62: 18/16 16/10 32: 16) 51: 18/13 10/9 41: 25/24 17) 64: 10/4 13/9 41: 25/24 13/9 18) 32: 23/20 20/18 62: 13/7* 9/7 19) 63: 33: 8/5 8/5 7/4 7/4 20) 43: 33: 13/10 10/7 8/5 7/4 21) 42: 25/23 9/5 64: 24/18 6/2* 22) 43: 63: 24/18 5/2 23) 31: 25/24 9/6 52: 18/13 18/16 24) 64: 24/18 18/14 65: 24/18 16/11* 25) 12: 25/24 5/3 41: 18/14 14/13 26) 22: 5/3 5/3 3/1* 3/163: 27) 61: 24/18 18/17 42: 28) 63: 17/14* 14/8 43: 29) 43: 8/4 6/3 52: 25/20 30) 33: 6/3 6/3 3/0 3/0 32: 31) 53: 4/0 4/1 64: 25/19 13/9 32) 63: 4/0 3/0 32: 9/6 20/18 33) 22: 4/2 2/0 2/0 2/0 31: 13/10 19/18 34) 32: 3/0 2/0 52: 18/13 13/11 35) 32: 3/0 3/1 52: 11/6 18/16 36) 65: 1/0 1/0 41: Wins 4 points Game 2 WHITE : 4 BLACK : 0 1) 35: 6/3 8/3 2) 65: 24/18 18/13 41: 13/9 24/23 3) 41: 6/2* 2/1* 62: 25/23 And that's how the match file looks after having been exported from gnubg: 17 point match Game 1 WHITE : 0 BLACK : 0 1) 53: 8/3 6/3 54: 24/20 13/8 2) 31: 8/5* 6/553: 3) Doubles = 2Takes 4) 51: 24/23 13/8 32: 25/23 24/21 5) 63: 13/7 7/4* 51: 25/24 6/1* 6) 33: 25/22 13/10 10/7 7/453: 8/3* 6/3 7) 22: 25/23 23/21 6/4 4/2*64: 8) 22: 13/11 8/6 6/4 4/2 42: 9) 64: 11/5 5/1* 41: 25/24* 10) 52: 25/20 13/11 52: 11) 32: 21/18 8/6 61: 25/24 13/7* 12) 21: 25/24* 20/18* 34: 13) 11: 11/10 6/5 5/4 4/3 63: 14) 61: 24/18 3/2 65: 15) 62: 18/16 16/10 32: 16) 51: 18/13 10/9 41: 25/24 17) 64: 13/9 10/4 41: 25/24 13/9 18) 32: 23/20 20/18 62: 13/7* 9/7 19) 63: 33: 8/5 8/5 7/4 7/4 20) 43: 33: 13/10 10/7 8/5 7/4 21) 42: 25/23 9/5 64: 24/18 6/2* 22) 43: 63: 24/18 5/2 23) 31: 25/24 9/6 52: 18/16 18/13 24) 64: 24/18 18/14 65: 24/18 16/11* 25) 12: 25/24 5/3 41: 18/14 14/13 26) 22: 5/3 5/3 3/1* 3/163: 27) 61: 24/18 18/17 42: 28) 63: 17/14* 14/8 43: 29) 43: 8/4 6/3 52: 25/20 30) 33: 6/3 6/3 3/0 3/0 32: 31) 53: 4/1 4/0 64: 25/19 13/9 32) 63: 4/0 3/0 32: 20/18 9/6 33) 22: 4/2 2/0 2/0 2/0 31: 19/18 13/10 34) 32: 3/0 2/0 52: 18/13 13/11 35) 32: 3/1 3/0 52: 18/16 11/6 36) 65: 1/0 1/0 65: 1/0 1/0 Wins 4 points Game 2 WHITE : 4 BLACK : 0 1) 35: 8/3 6/3 2) 65: 24/18 18/13 41: 24/23 13/9 3) 41: 6/2* 2/1* 62: 25/23 So instead of 41: the last move in game one of player BLACK is displayed as 65: 1/0 1/0, the repeated move of the other player. Regards, Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
I use to run gnubg with different settings to analyze positions. First I run a quick and dirty analysis, if the results are close, I perform other, more time consuming rollouts. To have those settings ready set, I used to install gnubg in different instances on my computer, every instance with a predefined set of settings. With the current 0.16 build, the different instances seem to share the same file to remember settings. So if I have all instances running with g11 MET and I want to change it just for one instance to MEC26, the settings for all other instances of gnubg (which I want to keep on g11) change to MEC26 as well. Thats not the way I was used to at the previous builds. And it's not the way I would want it. An alternative would be, to be able to save all settings and be able to simply change from one set of user-defined settings to another by just one button. In that case one installation of gnubg would be sufficient. Hardy :-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
On 10.07.2007 11:05 Jonathan Kinsey wrote: You may be able to do this by creating a command file with set met x and other rollout settings and then start gnubg with the filename with a -commands argument. Not able to test it, and I know there are problems in this area, it might work (or not - or just run the commands and exit...). You could then have some shortcuts which start gnubg with different settings. Thanks Jon for this hint. The main question for me is, however, whether it is really wanted, that gnubg stores it's settings in a global file that is shared by all other installed gnubg. I tried to explain, why different settings are important for me. The earlier versions did it perfect, but with 0.16 a new feature is invented, which I don't like at all. Do we really want that all 0.16 installations share the same settings? Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] 0.16 - Language Settings get lost
Hi, I am presently testing GNUBG 0.16. One problem presently: I want to convince GNUBG to start up with the English language, but it always starts in German. When I select Language in the menue, it displays that already English (UK) is chosen as language. So I can't change it, although GNUBG is running in German. I can select English (USA) and GNUBG then changes into English. From English (USA) I can switch to English (UK). If I then say Save settings I sometimes get an error, that this is already the chosen (and saved) language preference, sometimes I don't get an error. If I then close GNUBG and start it again, it starts up with German language. Again and again. I am running GNUBG (0.16 mingw - build Apr 23 2007) without MT, on a Windows XP system. I am running different GNUBG versions, installed in different directories. Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] 0.16 - Language Settings get lost
On 09.07.2007 13:54 Massimiliano Maini wrote: Hi, there was a bug. Try downloading a more recent version from www.gnubg.org (you can just download the executables archive and put the 2 exes into your gnubg directory, renaming the files). MaX. Thanks, that worked. GNUBG speaks English to me again :) Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Installation problem - 0.16 instead the wanted 0.15
On 04.07.2007 09:21 Massimiliano Maini wrote: Hi, I think that may be my fault. I've recompiled the old 0.15 and updated it on gnubg.org, you may try ro download it again and check. In any case, it was just a minor issue (naming of th version was 0.16 instead of 0.15): no 0.16 elements were in. MaX. Hi MaX, indeed, now after installing the 0.15 it also says it's 0.15. Thanks. Will also investigate how stable 0.16 runs on my system and let you all know. Thanks a lot!!! Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Installation problem - 0.16 instead the wanted 0.15
Hi all, having updated my GNUBG I wanted to use the stable 0.15 version (for Windows). When downloading from the site http://www.gnubg.org/index.php?itemid=56, I receive a file gnubg-0.15-stable-20061119-setup.exe, but after installation and starting of that software, it is the 0.16 version that's actually running. And it crashes _very_ often. Therfore I'd rather prefer the 0.15 version. Where do I get this file? And why is 0.16 running after installing gnubg-0.15-stable-20061119-setup.exe? Cheers, Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Fwd: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Installation problem - 0.16 instead the wanted 0.15]
Thanks Christian, my main confusion is, that I did a absolutly NEW, FRESH installation of GNUBG (supposed to be 0.15): Deleted the older versions before, installed the file gnubg-0.15-stable-20061119-setup.exe, which I got from the download section of the GNUBG website, from the link that was pointing to the 0.15 stable version. And the programm that is running after that installation is version 0.16!!??!!?? So your downgrade hints don't help me much :-( The download archive for the 0.15 version (on the windows download site) seems to contain 0.16 elements! I did not keep track on when GNUBG crashes, but will do from now on. I do a lot of conversions from matches, that I have in HTML-format into computer readable format. Therfore I use GNUBG a lot for recording moves. Going back and forth sometimes uses crashing of GNUBG. Especially when I want to correct the first move in a new game, GNUBG is crashing of freezes and all moves recorded before are lost. Try to describe it more detailled after experiencing another crash. Cheers, Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages -- www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg