Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
I tend to agree with both of you. Having the default settings stored per user is the proper way to do things. However, GNU backgammon has a lot of settings and not all of them are very convenient to access. The following would be easy to implement: A save profile menu point, which essentially is save settings to a specific file and a profile selector. That way you can efficiently change a lot of settings in one go. The user will have to take care not to change settings that he doesn't want to change (e.g. the MET), but besides that I think that it is a good idea. Christian. ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
> I think I am the first to ask, because most USERs are still using the > 0.15. And there it was implemented differently. Well, they should just switch to 0.16: it's so much better. > How do you handle the need to have different settings for rollouts? I > guess you have also some quick and dirty settings and some more precise? In 0.16 you can save/load rollout settings in separate files, so that when you want to do a rollout you just have to pick one of your favorite settings. [BTW small bug : the .gnubg\rol directory doesn't get created when installing from scratch/at first startup. If you try to load a rollout setting file you get an error. If you save one the directory gets created and loading no longer causes the error]. > I don't want to change the settings all the time. And as there are not > yet the possibility to save different sets of settings, my work-around > was to install gnubg several times on my computer. That worked fine with > 0.15. But this possibility got killed by the different implementation > with 0.16. > > If you want my vote: Give me this 0.15 feature back! It wasn't a feature, it was a flaw. I think 0.16 solves the issue much better than your workaround in 0.15. MaX. ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
Hardy Hübener wrote: > On 10.07.2007 14:49 Jonathan Kinsey wrote: >> >> The settings are stored per user, which is the "proper" way really. >> You can >> load and save settings now, in theory we could add a gui for this - in >> reality >> you're the first to ask about it :o) >> >> Jon >> > > I think I am the first to ask, because most USERs are still using the > 0.15. And there it was implemented differently. > > How do you handle the need to have different settings for rollouts? I > guess you have also some quick and dirty settings and some more precise? > > I don't want to change the settings all the time. And as there are not > yet the possibility to save different sets of settings, my work-around > was to install gnubg several times on my computer. That worked fine with > 0.15. But this possibility got killed by the different implementation > with 0.16. > > If you want my vote: Give me this 0.15 feature back! You can save/load settings, just enter the commands "save settings " and "load commands " (or load commands from the menu), it's not great, but having multiple copies of gnubg to have different settings isn't the best solution either. Jon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
On 10.07.2007 14:49 Jonathan Kinsey wrote: The settings are stored per user, which is the "proper" way really. You can load and save settings now, in theory we could add a gui for this - in reality you're the first to ask about it :o) Jon I think I am the first to ask, because most USERs are still using the 0.15. And there it was implemented differently. How do you handle the need to have different settings for rollouts? I guess you have also some quick and dirty settings and some more precise? I don't want to change the settings all the time. And as there are not yet the possibility to save different sets of settings, my work-around was to install gnubg several times on my computer. That worked fine with 0.15. But this possibility got killed by the different implementation with 0.16. If you want my vote: Give me this 0.15 feature back! Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages --> www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
Hardy Hübener wrote: > On 10.07.2007 11:05 Jonathan Kinsey wrote: >> >> You may be able to do this by creating a command file with "set met x" >> and other >> rollout settings and then start gnubg with the filename with a -commands >> argument. Not able to test it, and I know there are problems in this >> area, it >> might work (or not - or just run the commands and exit...). >> >> You could then have some shortcuts which start gnubg with different >> settings. >> > > Thanks Jon for this hint. > > The main question for me is, however, whether it is really wanted, that > gnubg stores it's settings in a global file that is shared by all other > installed gnubg. I tried to explain, why different settings are > important for me. The earlier versions did it perfect, but with 0.16 a > new feature is invented, which I don't like at all. > > Do we really want that all 0.16 installations share the same settings? The settings are stored per user, which is the "proper" way really. You can load and save settings now, in theory we could add a gui for this - in reality you're the first to ask about it :o) Jon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
On 10.07.2007 11:05 Jonathan Kinsey wrote: You may be able to do this by creating a command file with "set met x" and other rollout settings and then start gnubg with the filename with a -commands argument. Not able to test it, and I know there are problems in this area, it might work (or not - or just run the commands and exit...). You could then have some shortcuts which start gnubg with different settings. Thanks Jon for this hint. The main question for me is, however, whether it is really wanted, that gnubg stores it's settings in a global file that is shared by all other installed gnubg. I tried to explain, why different settings are important for me. The earlier versions did it perfect, but with 0.16 a new feature is invented, which I don't like at all. Do we really want that all 0.16 installations share the same settings? Hardy ;-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages --> www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
Hardy Hübener wrote: > I use to run gnubg with different settings to analyze positions. First I > run a quick and dirty analysis, if the results are close, I perform > other, more time consuming rollouts. > > To have those settings ready set, I used to install gnubg in different > instances on my computer, every instance with a predefined set of settings. > > With the current 0.16 build, the different instances seem to share the > same file to remember settings. So if I have all instances running with > g11 MET and I want to change it just for one instance to MEC26, the > settings for all other instances of gnubg (which I want to keep on g11) > change to MEC26 as well. Thats not the way I was used to at the previous > builds. And it's not the way I would want it. > > An alternative would be, to be able to save all settings and be able to > simply change from one set of user-defined settings to another by just > one button. In that case one installation of gnubg would be sufficient. You may be able to do this by creating a command file with "set met x" and other rollout settings and then start gnubg with the filename with a -commands argument. Not able to test it, and I know there are problems in this area, it might work (or not - or just run the commands and exit...). You could then have some shortcuts which start gnubg with different settings. Jon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
[Bug-gnubg] Settings for different instances of gnubg
I use to run gnubg with different settings to analyze positions. First I run a quick and dirty analysis, if the results are close, I perform other, more time consuming rollouts. To have those settings ready set, I used to install gnubg in different instances on my computer, every instance with a predefined set of settings. With the current 0.16 build, the different instances seem to share the same file to remember settings. So if I have all instances running with g11 MET and I want to change it just for one instance to MEC26, the settings for all other instances of gnubg (which I want to keep on g11) change to MEC26 as well. Thats not the way I was used to at the previous builds. And it's not the way I would want it. An alternative would be, to be able to save all settings and be able to simply change from one set of user-defined settings to another by just one button. In that case one installation of gnubg would be sufficient. Hardy :-) -- Hardy's Backgammon Pages --> www.hardys-backgammon-pages.com ___ Bug-gnubg mailing list Bug-gnubg@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnubg
