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Re: console plans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels Möller) writes: [removed a good insight in unicode<->char-code translation] > > > But using X for telling how to get characters from keyboard scancodes > > to Unicode is compatible with using Unicode internaly. > > Huh? I don't understand you. My point is that it is easier to convert > X keysyms to the user's choice of local character set (be that latin1 > or utf8 or whatever) than to convert from unicode, because, as far as > I'm aware, X keysums have a simple one to one mapping between > characters and integers, without any of those equivalence rules which > you have to understand and implement in order to deal with unicode > properly. > > Add composing later. > Doing unicode sans composing characters may be a start, but it is > *not* really "unicode". > > /Niels But what I do suggest is to fix mapping later. Make it so that users could change that them self. Have API's prepared for unicode to fix mapping later is a better beginning than to dig into 8-bit LATIN-n char code problems, and then try to fix it. But then again. I'm not the one who does the work (for now at least). /Jackson ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
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how can i make oskit-mach, not to reboot after an error message ? so i can see what happenned tks, -- Dam ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
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Hello, What has happened to the bug archives? Year 2024? Regards, Vasili Galchin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: Large filesystems
Jon Arney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I do an 'ls -la /src/*' I see a listing of some of the > files there, but the list is interrupted by something like > 'ls: Computer bought the farm' on certain files. Upon inspection, > the files which seem to be more likely to show this behavior are > ones with 'large' inode numbers. Odd. I don't really know, my guess is that the code you run includes a half-way-done solution for the old ~1GB limit (the problem, as I understood it, is/was that the ext2 mmaps the entire partition at startup, and then ext2 fail *immediately* at startup if the partition is too large). /Niels ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: Large filesystems
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 08:23:34PM +0100, Niels M?ller wrote: > Jon Arney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm running into a problem, however, when I mount (set translator for) > > one of the filesystems. > > > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hdc1 2015984739996 1173580 39% /hurd > > /dev/hdc2 5039592 1605844 3177744 34% /hurd/src > > /dev/hdb1 958977703747205690 78% /mnt/hdd1 > > There's a known limitation in the ext2 translator at about 1GB, so you > are not supposed to be able to mount your first two ext2 partitions > under the hurd at all, which should be mentioned in any Hurd FAQ. But > I think you would get errors when the translator is first activated, > before you get the chance to access files on it. The one 1GB limit is a calculation bases on estimated values. It's not really a hard limit. It depends on a lot of factors, the real limit could even differ between systems. Testing different partition sizes, the limit on my system was around the 1.8GB (thus I've a lot of 1.8GB partitions on my hard drive). It could be possible to mount the /hurd partition. It's not known what happens if ext2fs runs for a long time on a very big partition which size is around the limit. I think it's not really impossible that it causes strange behaviour (i.e. crashes). If you want to be safe, I'll advice to make your partitions around the 1.5 or 1.6 GB. The /hurd/src will never work because the is only 4GB of virtual memory, you just can't mmap() a 5 GB partition. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: jeroen@openprojects msg02960/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Large filesystems
Niels: I can actually mount the first partition (/hurd) as my root filesystem using the server.boot script and grub command-line. It doesn't complain about anything and seems to work just fine although I haven't filled the filesystem yet, so it may begin to complain when I do fill it. As to the other filesystems, what I do is the following (under the hurd) settrans /src /hurd/ext2fs /dev/hd2s2 settrans /opt /hurd/ext2fs /dev/hd1s1 In both cases, I am able to mount the filesystem properly and 'ps' shows the translators running. When I do an 'ls -la /opt/*/*' I see the full listing of the .tar.gz files I've stored there and they _appear_ to be correct. When I do an 'ls -la /src/*' I see a listing of some of the files there, but the list is interrupted by something like 'ls: Computer bought the farm' on certain files. Upon inspection, the files which seem to be more likely to show this behavior are ones with 'large' inode numbers. I also used a test program to probe this: #include #include int main(int argc, char **argv) { int rc; struct stat statbuf; rc = stat("/src/rpm", &statbuf); perror("foo"); } Running this program produces 'foo: Computer bought the farm'. After running this or the 'ls' I find that /hurd/ext2fs is no longer running and has been replaced with /hurd/crash. After looking through the hurd and mach sources, I believe that part of the trouble is that in 'storeio' and 'ext2fs' the type used for sizes and offsets are 'off_t' which is defined to be 'natural_t' which is defined to be 'unsigned long'. I believe that part of the solution could be to replace these with 'off64_t' but it seems that much care would be required in making these changes. What I am most concerned about is the buffer interface with 'vm_offset_t' which is also defined to be 'natural_t' and thus the VM buffering of pages with offsets larger than 32 bit would be comprimised. Niels Möller wrote: > > Jon Arney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm running into a problem, however, when I mount (set translator for) > > one of the filesystems. > > > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hdc1 2015984739996 1173580 39% /hurd > > /dev/hdc2 5039592 1605844 3177744 34% /hurd/src > > /dev/hdb1 958977703747205690 78% /mnt/hdd1 > > There's a known limitation in the ext2 translator at about 1GB, so you > are not supposed to be able to mount your first two ext2 partitions > under the hurd at all, which should be mentioned in any Hurd FAQ. But > I think you would get errors when the translator is first activated, > before you get the chance to access files on it. > > So what you report seems quite odd to me. Can you describe exactly > what you do, and what error messages you get? > > You should be able to mount larger filesystem via NFS from a remote > machine, though. > > /Niels -- Jonathan S. Arney Software Engineer (602) - 589 - 6654 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: Large filesystems
Jon Arney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm running into a problem, however, when I mount (set translator for) > one of the filesystems. > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/hdc1 2015984739996 1173580 39% /hurd > /dev/hdc2 5039592 1605844 3177744 34% /hurd/src > /dev/hdb1 958977703747205690 78% /mnt/hdd1 There's a known limitation in the ext2 translator at about 1GB, so you are not supposed to be able to mount your first two ext2 partitions under the hurd at all, which should be mentioned in any Hurd FAQ. But I think you would get errors when the translator is first activated, before you get the chance to access files on it. So what you report seems quite odd to me. Can you describe exactly what you do, and what error messages you get? You should be able to mount larger filesystem via NFS from a remote machine, though. /Niels ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Large filesystems
Hi, I've been playing around with the Hurd on my Linux box and sharing filesystems between the two of them. I have one partition which I use as a repository for lots of GNU and other free software I'm compiling under the Hurd. I'm running into a problem, however, when I mount (set translator for) one of the filesystems. Under Linux, df shows these partitions as: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc1 2015984739996 1173580 39% /hurd /dev/hdc2 5039592 1605844 3177744 34% /hurd/src /dev/hdb1 958977703747205690 78% /mnt/hdd1 I only seem to have problems with /hurd/src (hd2s2) and it seems to me that the only difference is size. I was wondering if there are any known limitations on filesystem sizes to confirm my suspicions. The 'ext2fs' translator dies with 'Computer bought the farm' when files with 'large' inode numbers are 'stat'ed such as the following: 625551 drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Feb 17 16:16 redhat/ 306261 drwxr-xr-x2 jona users4096 Feb 7 01:56 rpm/ but seems to behave appropriately for files with 'small' inode numbers: 67 -rw-r--r--1 jona users 744169 Jan 31 23:49 readline-4.1.tar.gz If there are any known limitations, can anyone give me a clue as to where to look (mach/storeio/ext2fs) so I can help remedy them? My system was compiled (by me from scratch) from: glibc-2.2.3 hurd-cvs-2002-01-29 gnumach-cvs-2002-01-29 gcc-2.95.3 binutils-2.9.1 Sincerely, Jonathan S. Arney Software Engineer (602) - 589 - 6654 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
Re: translated nodes name
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:28:34AM -0800, arun v wrote: > > Can I get the translated nodes file name in the > translator program. No. The file name is in general not available, also because in many cases there isn't a useful filename, and the other reason is that this filename might become invalid any time (unlink). It's basically the same as with file descriptors, you can't get the filename for one of those either (for the same reason, by the way). But! you can get a _port_ to the underlying node, and that is much better. So you can manipulate and query the underlying node. (grep for 'underlying' in the Hurd sources how to do that). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
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translated nodes name
Can I get the translated nodes file name in the translator program. i.e. hurd# settrans -agf tmp/ mytranslator Can i find the name tmp in the mytranslator program? Thanks, Arun. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd
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