Re: Scripts to build a Hurd distro
Nice work! :) Samuel
Re: Scripts to build a Hurd distro
Quoting David Michael (2015-01-13 05:50:28) I've uploaded a disk image and screenshots here: http://dm0.me/projects/gnuxc/ I'm very impressed, nice to see another Hurd distribution :) Some thoughts: * I do not like the login shell. Ymmv, but it exposes quite a bit of system state to an unauthenticated user. We have `utils/loginpr.sh' for a more traditional alternative. * What's with process 8? Its parent is dmd, and it might be a fork lingering around. * When I tried the QEMU-based mode, I couldn't see the guests GRUB, it looks like qemu was run with -curses saying `XXX graphical mode'. * You are missing out on our DDE-based drivers, which is entirely our fault for not having it in Hurd proper :( * I wonder why your image is that big. `df' says that 4G are used, that sounds like a lot. Also, why doesn't `df' show the root filesystem when invoked without parameters? Funny. Also, use `zerofree' before compressing and distributing an image. Good stuff! Justus
Re: Scripts to build a Hurd distro
Hi, On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Justus Winter 4win...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de wrote: Hi David :) Quoting David Michael (2015-01-04 23:40:03) I've uploaded updates to my Hurd build scripts for Fedora 21, so I thought I'd send a note about it in case it helps anyone else out there who is interested in building Hurd outside Debian. (The project has actually bloated into a fairly complete distro itself at this point.) It can be downloaded from https://github.com/dm0-/gnuxc . Here are some nifty things it can do: * It runs GNU dmd as PID 1, with service definitions like mcron, lsh, syslog, and the Hurd console client. * It has a Guile/Make file to bootstrap and build all the cross-compiler RPMs in parallel with proper dependency tracking. * It can use your CPU to heat your home or office. Most impressive! For someone who isn't a Fedora user, is there an image I can download and just boot to play around with? Also, do you hang out with the Guix people? If not, you should ;). Also, are you in #hurd? Sorry, I don't have a clean image ready for distribution at the moment. Maybe I could build one and upload it somewhere over the weekend. I don't tend to use IRC on any regular basis, and although I follow Guix development, I'm not really involved. * It includes a Linux-libre kernel with a statically linked QEMU so that it is still possible to boot Hurd virtually on machines with unsupported hardware. (I use this for a Live CD type of setup and EFI booting.) Heh, nice hack. Note though that for the Hurd, booting from a CD isn't much different than booting from a hard drive. grub-mkrescue creates bootable cd/hd/usb images, from there on it's just a matter of bootstrapping the Hurd the same way it is done for a normal installation. Of course then you have iso9660fs as rootfs, which is readonly, which causes problems for the userland bootstrap. Thanks, I'll have to look into grub-mkrescue for booting options. Linux-libre here is useful beyond just booting, though, like for cases where I boot a Hurd SD card on a machine that relies on a USB3 network adapter which only even had a Linux driver for a year or two. QEMU can present Hurd with a boring old rtl8139 NIC that it knows how to use, so networking is still functional. In this case, Linux-libre is basically just the world's most inefficient hardware abstraction layer. Usable read-only root is also something I'd like to have eventually. The build system currently puts tmpfs translators on /tmp and some /var directories with a dumb script a la systemd-tmpfiles, but this approach is not very complete at this point. Thanks. David
Re: Scripts to build a Hurd distro
Hi David :) Quoting David Michael (2015-01-04 23:40:03) I've uploaded updates to my Hurd build scripts for Fedora 21, so I thought I'd send a note about it in case it helps anyone else out there who is interested in building Hurd outside Debian. (The project has actually bloated into a fairly complete distro itself at this point.) It can be downloaded from https://github.com/dm0-/gnuxc . Here are some nifty things it can do: * It runs GNU dmd as PID 1, with service definitions like mcron, lsh, syslog, and the Hurd console client. * It has a Guile/Make file to bootstrap and build all the cross-compiler RPMs in parallel with proper dependency tracking. * It can use your CPU to heat your home or office. Most impressive! For someone who isn't a Fedora user, is there an image I can download and just boot to play around with? Also, do you hang out with the Guix people? If not, you should ;). Also, are you in #hurd? * It includes a Linux-libre kernel with a statically linked QEMU so that it is still possible to boot Hurd virtually on machines with unsupported hardware. (I use this for a Live CD type of setup and EFI booting.) Heh, nice hack. Note though that for the Hurd, booting from a CD isn't much different than booting from a hard drive. grub-mkrescue creates bootable cd/hd/usb images, from there on it's just a matter of bootstrapping the Hurd the same way it is done for a normal installation. Of course then you have iso9660fs as rootfs, which is readonly, which causes problems for the userland bootstrap. Cheers, Justus
