Re: news for 2010-05

2010-06-07 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi Thomas, 

Thanks – and I don’t mind the delay. That happens, and I don’t think people 
got hurt ;) 

The changes look good - slim it down a bit. 

Best wishes, 
Arne

On Montag, 7. Juni 2010 00:41:36 Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Did some changes, then published.  Sorry for the delay.
> 
> 
> Regards,
>  Thomas

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Re: news for 2010-05

2010-06-06 Thread Thomas Schwinge
Hello!

Did some changes, then published.  Sorry for the delay.


Regards,
 Thomas


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Re: news for 2010-05

2010-06-03 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, 

On Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 00:00:20 olafbuddenha...@web.de wrote:
> Hm... Do you mean to include this verbatim? I think it's rather
> confusing out of context...
> 
> The bottom line is that all drivers emulated by qemu and vmware work
> fine now. 

That description is nice → verbatim replaced :) 

In general I had some problems getting a real overview on the changes last 
month. Informatic posts are easy to get, but discussions on patches are kinda 
hard to digest :) 
I shudder when thinking how hard it would be for outsiders to even get a 
glance of the activity…

Anyway: …going to IRC for asking interactively… :) 

> > should improve performance for high throughput situations.
> 
> This description might be a bit too abstract... Though I don't
> understand enough of the details to describe it better :-(

I tried again: 

> to prevent thread storms when synchronizing large pagers in ext2fs. They 
should improve performance when many files are accessed at the same time. 

(It would be great to have my emails in emacs – I wish I had managed to 
configure Gnus for my maildirs; it would simplify email integration into text 
work a lot…)

I think the name thread storms can stay in, because it is directly 
understandable: “there are too many threads” :)

> BTW, I think you should also mention some of the other patches from
> Sergio and others that went by this month. Most notably Emilio's patches
> (which fix some bugs -- though I don't remember in what real-life
> situtations these manifested); and Fredrik's settrans -i (or was that
> already last month?), which greatly helps in debugging translators.

Thanks to the help in IRC I added a section for that: 

> And Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, Carl Fredrik Hammar, Sergio Lopez 
> and others developed some patches (
> [auth](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-06/msg3.html), 
> [exec](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00108.html), 
> [tmpfs](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00076.html), 
> … )
> to fix or improve the semantics of various internal hurd servers, 
> to avoid some bugs or improve performance. 

> > > And the [scheduled IRC meetings for Google Summer of code]
> …
> Does this really belong in a "month of the Hurd"?...

It gives people who only follow the moth a hint where they can follow the 
discussions. But it doesn’t show a direct achievement, so I’m not sure… 

I now thought of using a footer which shows people where they can get more 
information. 

Updated news: 


A month of the Hurd: *dde linux26*, *thread storms*, *patches*, *new live CD* 
and *IRC meetings*. 

> This month [[Zheng_Da|user/zhengda]]
> [reported](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00037.html)
> on the state of porting DDE linux26 to the Hurd, 
> which can improve the GNU Hurd Hardware support a lot. 
> The drivers emulated by qemu and vmware already work fine, 
> but it still needs work to run on real hardware. 

> Also Sergio Lopez 
> [added some patches](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-
hurd/2010-05/msg00106.html) 
> to prevent thread storms when synchronizing large pagers in ext2fs. They 
should improve performance when many files are accessed at the same time. 

> And Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, Carl Fredrik Hammar, Sergio Lopez 
> and others developed some patches (
> [auth](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-06/msg3.html), 
> [exec](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00108.html), 
> [tmpfs](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00076.html), 
> … )
> to fix or improve the semantics of various internal hurd servers, 
> to avoid some bugs or improve performance. 

> Additionally Justus Winter created a [live CD]
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00033.html) 
> with an installation wizard in the spirit of the OpenBSD installer. 
> He needs testers to improve it. 

> And the 
> [scheduled IRC meetings for Google Summer of code]
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00148.html) 
> are continuing on Mondays and Thursdays, 10:30 UTC. 
> If you want to catch up on them, you can have a look at the 
> [channel logs](http://richtlijn.be/~larstiq/hurd/). 

> *PS: As the amount of new developments on the Hurd has increased 
quite a bit since the start of the ‘Month of the Hurd’, these news are only a 
selection of the items you can already test yourself. There’s more in our 
[[mailing_lists]]. The rough criterium for the Month of the Hurd is “can you 
already test it and can I say why it is great for the Hurd at large?” There 
definitely is stuff I don’t understand well enough to explain here… — 
[[Arne_Babenhauserheide|community/weblogs/ArneBab]]*

-- 

* email news: In the [[mailing_lists]], especially [[bug-hurd|
mailing_lists#bug-hurd]]. 
* IRC contact: #hurd on freenode.net; meeting on mondays and thursdays, 10:30 
UTC ([logs](http://richtlijn.be/~larstiq/hurd/)).




Best wishes, 
Arne


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Re: news for 2010-05

2010-06-01 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi,

On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 10:05:51AM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:

> > This month Zheng Da
> > [reported](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00037.html)
> > on the state of porting DDE linux26 to the Hurd, which can improve
> > the GNU Hurd Hardware support a lot: 
> 
> >> I tested pcnet32, ne2k-pci, rtl8139, e1000. pcnet32 works in both
> >> VMWare and qemu. Only qemu emulates ne2k-pci and rtl8139 cards and 
> both DDE
> >> drivers work well in qemu. ??? [[Zheng_Da|user/zhengda]]

Hm... Do you mean to include this verbatim? I think it's rather
confusing out of context...

The bottom line is that all drivers emulated by qemu and vmware work
fine now. However, AFAIK there have been no success reports so far from
running on real hardware. Justus tried 8139too, which didn't work
because of some missing functionality in DDE; and sis900, which kinda
worked after stubbing out one function, but crashes under load... I'm
not aware of anyone else having tried real hardware so far.

> > Also Sergio Lopez [added some
> > patches](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-
> hurd/2010-05/msg00106.html) 
> > to prevent thread storms when synchronizing large pagers in ext2fs.
> > They 
> should improve performance for high throughput situations. 

This description might be a bit too abstract... Though I don't
understand enough of the details to describe it better :-(

BTW, I think you should also mention some of the other patches from
Sergio and others that went by this month. Most notably Emilio's patches
(which fix some bugs -- though I don't remember in what real-life
situtations these manifested); and Fredrik's settrans -i (or was that
already last month?), which greatly helps in debugging translators.

> > Additionally Justus Winter created a [live CD]
> (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00033.html) 
> > with an installation wizard in the spirit of the OpenBSD installer.
> > He needs testers to improve it. 

Glad you mention it -- this definitely should get more attention than it
has seen so far :-)

> > And the [scheduled IRC meetings for Google Summer of code]
> (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00148.html) are
> continuing on Mondays and Thursdays, 10:30 UTC. If you want to catch
> up on them, you can have a look at the [channel logs]
> (http://richtlijn.be/~larstiq/hurd/). 

Does this really belong in a "month of the Hurd"?...

-antrik-



news for 2010-05

2010-06-01 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Hi, 

I just wrote the new Month of the Hurd. Please tell me if there’s anything 
which should be added, removed or changed.


A month of the Hurd: *dde linux26*, *thread storms*, *new live CD* and *IRC 
meeting schedule*. 

> This month Zheng Da 
> [reported](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00037.html)
> on the state of porting DDE linux26 to the Hurd, 
> which can improve the GNU Hurd Hardware support a lot: 

>> I tested pcnet32, ne2k-pci, rtl8139, e1000. pcnet32 works in
>> both VMWare and qemu. Only qemu emulates ne2k-pci and rtl8139 cards and 
both DDE
>> drivers work well in qemu. — [[Zheng_Da|user/zhengda]]

> Also Sergio Lopez 
> [added some patches](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-
hurd/2010-05/msg00106.html) 
> to prevent thread storms when synchronizing large pagers in ext2fs. They 
should improve performance for high throughput situations. 

> Additionally Justus Winter created a [live CD]
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00033.html) 
> with an installation wizard in the spirit of the OpenBSD installer. 
> He needs testers to improve it. 

> And the [scheduled IRC meetings for Google Summer of code]
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2010-05/msg00148.html) are 
continuing on Mondays and Thursdays, 10:30 UTC. If you want to catch up on 
them, you can have a look at the [channel logs]
(http://richtlijn.be/~larstiq/hurd/). 

> *PS: As the amount of new developments on the Hurd has increased 
quite a bit since the start of the ‘Month of the Hurd’, these news are only a 
selection of the items you can already test yourself. There’s more in our 
[[mailing_lists]]. The rough criterium for the Month of the Hurd is “can you 
already test it and can I say why it is great for the Hurd at large?” — 
[[Arne_Babenhauserheide|community/weblogs/ArneBab]]*


Best wishes, 
Arne


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