Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Hans Aberg

On 8 Aug 2009, at 15:41, Valentin Villenave wrote:


Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report
(possibly with a picture)?


The default rule is really that one should have a minimum number of  
time signatures if the repeat construct is expanded*). An alternative  
way to put it: if one reads the music as it is performed, one should  
not encounter unneeded time signatures (with the exception below).


To make this possible, the bars in :||: may have to be separated and  
the time signature written between these lines.


In addition, if the meter change appears on the first measure of the  
staff lines, eventual staff lines immediately before at the end has  
the time signature written there as well (a duplicate), with no bar |  
following it**). This seems to be the default, but might be an option.


*) The example in Hindemith, "Elementary training", p. 50(c), shows  
that it is not necessary to have a time signature before the |: if it  
is necessary to have one after because of a meter change within the  
repeats. So, for example in:

  3/4 ... |: 4/4 ... | 3/4 ... :|
there is no need to add an extra 4/4 before the |:.

**) Like this:
 3/4 ... | ... |4/4
 4/4  | . |

  Hans




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Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report
>> (possibly with a picture)?
> 
> Meter changes should occur before an opening repeat sign.  If there
> is a closing one immediately adjacently, opening and closing one are
> placed apart, and the meter change in between.

I've sent an image to the list earlier in this thread.


Werner


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lyric extender problem

2009-08-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG

[I'm sitting in a train, walking over notation.pdf -- I currently
can't look up the bug database.  In case this problem is already
reported please ignore this mail.]

The attached image is taken from notation.pdf, subsection `Multiple
notes to one syllable'; the bug IMHO is that the extender line is too
short.  Similar to `-- _ _' (with respect to the length), `__ _ _ _'
should construct an extender line up to the `e'.


Werner
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Re: Ghostscript fails with special characters in filename

2009-08-08 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 03:45:25PM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote:
> 2009/8/4 Harmath Dénes :
> > No. It otherwise works perfectly on an Intel Mac. It only fails always with
> > the mentioned characters. (Strangely, similar special characters, like ű or
> > ê, work).
> 
> Could you run lilypond --verbose on your file? That still looks a lot
> like #811; perhaps I'll Fwd it to the ghostscript team.

Also note that Ghostscript 8.70 has been released, which I am
currently using.

Maybe 8.70 final has fixed the problem, as I can't seem to reproduce
this problem here...

-Patrick


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Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread David Kastrup
Valentin Villenave  writes:

> 2009/8/8 Werner LEMBERG :
>> Yes.  By default, a meter change should be positioned before the
>> repetition sign.
>>
>> This should be added to the bug tracker...
>
> Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report
> (possibly with a picture)?

Meter changes should occur before an opening repeat sign.  If there is a
closing one immediately adjacently, opening and closing one are placed
apart, and the meter change in between.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: Ghostscript fails with special characters in filename

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/4 Harmath Dénes :
> No. It otherwise works perfectly on an Intel Mac. It only fails always with
> the mentioned characters. (Strangely, similar special characters, like ű or
> ê, work).

Could you run lilypond --verbose on your file? That still looks a lot
like #811; perhaps I'll Fwd it to the ghostscript team.

> Is there a workaround for this (e.g. a command-line option to use ps2pdf
> instead of gs)?

There should be IMO (see the discussion on the tracker page). But we
don't have the resources to implement it right now.

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: 2/4 not before repeat line in incipit to `Repeats'

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/8 Werner LEMBERG :
> Yes.  By default, a meter change should be positioned before the
> repetition sign.
>
> This should be added to the bug tracker...

Er, I got lost in the discussion. Could you sum up your report
(possibly with a picture)?

Regards,
Valentin


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Issue 827 in lilypond: Tuplet brackets should be continued after a line break

2009-08-08 Thread codesite-noreply

Status: Accepted
Owner: v.villenave
Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Low Engraving-nitpick

New issue 827 by v.villenave: Tuplet brackets should be continued after a  
line break

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=827

As shown below (LSR #406), the tuplet bracket is not reprinted after a line
break (only the TupletNumber).

\version "2.13.3"

\layout {
  \context {
\Voice
% Permit line breaks within tuplets
\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"
% Allow beams to be broken at line breaks
\override Beam #'breakable = ##t
  }
}
\relative c'' {
  a8
  \repeat unfold 5 { \times 2/3 { c[ b a] } }
  % Insert a manual line break within a tuplet
  \times 2/3 { c[ b \bar "" \break a] }
  \repeat unfold 5 { \times 2/3 { c[ b a] } }
  c8
}


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Re: broken tuplet lacks continuation bracket

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/5 Werner LEMBERG :
> (see section 1.2.1), shows IMHO a problem: The tuplet bracket isn't
> continued after the line break to `finish' the tuplet.  Looks like a
> bug...

Thanks, added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=827

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: \fermataMarkups should flip when below staff

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/31 gnomino :
> I think this would be a useful modification of the \fermataMarkup command.

Thanks, applied:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commit;h=f924264773699f778097efc9b5869f530179466a

Regards,
Valentin


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Re: missing `arrow down' glyph in PDF

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/8 Werner LEMBERG :
> I suggest to replace this with
>  \mark \markup { \char ##x2193 }

OK, done.

Regards,
Valentin


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missing `arrow down' glyph in PDF

2009-08-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG

The snippet

  aligning-marks-with-various-notation-objects.ly

uses U+2193, the `arrow-down' character.  Unfortunately, this is not
available as a real glyph in PDF output due to limitations of the
glyph repertoire of the CM fonts used by texinfo.  In the PDF, you now
see

  \mark ""

instead of the correct

  \mark "↓"

I suggest to replace this with

  \mark \markup { \char ##x2193 }

to fix it.


   Werner
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Issue 826 in lilypond: Wrong bounding box for \longa glyph

2009-08-08 Thread codesite-noreply

Status: Accepted
Owner: v.villenave
CC: lemzwerg
Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Medium

New issue 826 by v.villenave: Wrong bounding box for \longa glyph
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=826

As demonstrated by the attached skyline, the longa's stem is currently not
taken into account.

Patrick said:
"
The root problem lies in various bounding-box calculations in the Metafont
code (search for `set_char_box').

The Parmesan font glyphs (the \longa glyph is one example) often use
symmetrical lengths for their Y-extent -- for example, #(-0.5 . 0.5).

This sometimes seems appropriate, but it often seems inaccurate.
"
The whole discussion is to be found at
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-08/msg00240.html


Attachments:
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Re: lilypond-book turns longas below the staff into breves

2009-08-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/8/7 Werner LEMBERG :
>
> This is not a clue, this is clearly a bug.

Not just "a" bug: now the famous #826 bug! :-)
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=826

Regards,
Valentin


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