Re: Issue 943 in lilypond: A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 943 by jameseli...@googlemail.com: A slur should follow  
the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=943

Sure, a slur should follow the same vertical direction because the regtest  
for

slur-broken-trend.ly says so, and this was the behavior in 2.12.

Sorry about the \version line. I learned it's easier to work without them  
when

compiling with two different versions.

And I'm sorry, but I can't wrap my head around texinfo. If I had a couple  
of months
to figure it out, I probably could, but as it is, I really don't understand  
it at all.


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Tempo / tuplet bracket bug

2009-12-20 Thread Trevor Bača
Hi,

The following snippet exhibits a bug in the form of contention between
metronome mark and tuplet instantiation:


%%% BEGIN TEMPO INSTANTIATION BUG %%%

\version "2.13.9"

\new Staff {
   \time 2/8
   \times 2/3 {
  \tempo 8=52
  c'8 (
  c'8
  c'8
}
   \time 2/8
  c'8
  c'8 )
}

%%% END TEMPO INSTANTIATION BUG %%


The interpreter gives the following warnings:

GNU LilyPond 2.13.9
Processing `0329.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
programming error: stopped tuplet bracket has left nor right bound.
continuing, cross fingers
0329.ly:10:10: warning: unterminated slur
  c'8
  (
0329.ly:16:10: warning: cannot end slur
  c'8
  )
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Solving 1 page-breaking chunks...[1: 1 pages]
Drawing systems...

And the output is attached here as tuplet-bracket-bound-bug.png.


The problem apparently has to do with the lexical spot at which the tempo
mark instantiates. Moving the tempo mark prior to the tuplet \times command
provides a workaround:

%%% BEGIN WORKAROUND %%%

\version "2.13.9"

\new Staff {
   \time 2/8
   \tempo 8=52
   \times 2/3 {
  c'8 (
  c'8
  c'8
}
   \time 2/8
  c'8
  c'8 )
}

%%% END WORKAROUND %%%


Note that what makes this one particularly slippery is that the output from
the buggy example (shown in the png attached here) is actually syntactically
wrong: the measure of 2/8 prints with three eighth notes (because the tuplet
bracket goes missing). The rhythmic inaccuracy is easy enough to spot in
this pared-down example; but in a situation of considerably more rhythmic
complexity this can be lethal. (In the realworld score that I am working on
that surfaced the bug it was, in fact, only the very visible absence of an
extended slur that made this one possible to find.)


Trevor.


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Re: horizontal alignment of dynamics attached to skips

2009-12-20 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/12/17 Reinhold Kainhofer :

> Is there any way to make lilypond use the same horizontal position for s\p and
> c\p ???

If you don't care about spanner alignment (i.e., hairpins/dynamic text
spans), then it's possible to realign the dynamics by using NoteColumn
(you can retrieve DynamicText grobs, then reposition them); otherwise
it's waiting for somebody to tackle issue #620.

\override NoteColumn #'before-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
   (let* ((paper-col (ly:grob-parent grob X))
  (elts (ly:grob-object paper-col 'elements))
  (dynamic-text #f))

 (for-each
  (lambda (x)
(let ((elt (ly:grob-array-ref elts x)))
  (if (and (ly:item? elt)
   (grob::has-interface elt
'dynamic-interface))
  (set! dynamic-text elt
  (iota (ly:grob-array-length elts)))

 (if dynamic-text
 (set! (ly:grob-property dynamic-text 'X-offset)
   (+   
(ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self dynamic-text)
(interval-center
 (ly:grob-robust-relative-extent grob grob X)))

(NB: this must be inside a \layout block at Voice level, since there
are no NoteColumn grobs created within Dynamics.)

Regards,
Neil


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Re: Issue 492 in lilypond: piano pedal disappears during RehearsalMark

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Started
Owner: n.puttock

Comment #4 on issue 492 by n.puttock: piano pedal disappears during  
RehearsalMark

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=492

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Re: Issue 936 in lilypond: \tempo makes TextSpanner too long

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Duplicate
Mergedinto: 492

Comment #2 on issue 936 by n.puttock: \tempo makes TextSpanner too long
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=936

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Re: Issue 492 in lilypond: piano pedal disappears during RehearsalMark

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 492 by n.puttock: piano pedal disappears during  
RehearsalMark

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=492

Issue 936 has been merged into this issue.

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Issue 946 in lilypond: build tarballs of docs

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Other Priority-Postponed

New issue 946 by percival.music.ca: build tarballs of docs
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=946

We want tarballs (or maybe zip, if windows doesn't support .tar.bz2) of:
- all split HTML docs
- all big HTML docs
- all pdf docs
- all all docs

they should be linked to in Documentation/web/manuals.itexi @node All.

NB: problably not worth doing this until the new build system, but if
somebody feels a particular itch, I wouldn't turn away a patch that adds
this to the current build system.

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Re: Issue 928 in lilypond: `Dynamics' items aren't vertically centered

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: fixed_2_13_10

Comment #1 on issue 928 by n.puttock: `Dynamics' items aren't vertically  
centered

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=928

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Re: Issue 837 in lilypond: Unnecessary empty dirs in Win32 builds

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #6 on issue 837 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: Unnecessary empty dirs in  
Win32 builds

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=837

Yes the control panel uninstall does the same thing - takes a long time You  
can
watch the files vanish one at a time, and I am able to simply 'del' the  
Lilypond Dir

or move it to the trash and delete the files manually in a few seconds.

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Re: Issue 837 in lilypond: Unnecessary empty dirs in Win32 builds

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 837 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: Unnecessary empty dirs in  
Win32 builds

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=837

originally I was going to report this on 2.13.9 and 2.13.8 (I think), but I  
see that
it does the same thing for me on windows 7 for 2.12.3 when I run the  
uninstaller
app. I'll verify control panel uninstall does the same thing for 2.12.3  
also.


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Re: Issue 837 in lilypond: Unnecessary empty dirs in Win32 builds

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Accepted
Labels: -fixed_2_13_8

Comment #4 on issue 837 by percival.music.ca: Unnecessary empty dirs in  
Win32 builds

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=837

There's a credible report that this is broken in 2.13.9 and 2.12.3.

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Re: Issue 945 in lilypond: warning about \version for short snippets

2009-12-20 Thread Mark Polesky
> Currently we show a warning if there's no \version
> statement.  This is teh suck for the tutorial -- do we
> explain that people need to write
>   \version "2.12.0"
> before they've even learned what
>   { c'4 }
> means, or do we let their first view of lilypond be a
> warning?

Neither.  Just let them get their feet wet with an
error-free minimal example, even if they don't understand
every token.  We want users to *always* put the /version
statement, so let's not start with a poorly-written example.


> I see a few options:
> 1.  Suck it up and explain \version as the first thing.

Good.  But why even bother with an explanation?  LM 1.1.4
"Command-line" has the user entering this without explaining
the curly braces or single-quotes:

{
  c' e' g' e'
}

A lot of things are like this when first being learned:
  int main()
  #!/bin/bash
  etc...


> 2.  Suck it up and tell newbies to ignore the warning.
> (IMO, that's even worse, since it trains them to
> ignore warnings)

Bad.


> 3.  Do something intelligent in lilypond, like only
> warning about \version if the input file is more than
> 10 lines long.

Bad.  It only takes one line to write an outdated .ly file.


> I prefer #3, of course.

I prefer adding the \version statement silently.  Curious
readers can remove it themselves and watch as the warning
appears.  It's explained eventually anyway, isn't it?

- Mark


  


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Re: Issue 945 in lilypond: warning about \version for short snippets

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 945 by lemzwerg: warning about \version for short  
snippets

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=945

I'm not willing to work on it, but I have to make a comment anyway,
since it sounds that you want to have a poll...

I prefer #1:
  (a) it's the simplest solution
  (b) heuristics as in #3 are doomed to fail
  (c) given that syntax changes are likely to come in lilypond 3,
  even starters should be trained to use a proper \version
  statement to make a transition as painless as possible


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Issue 945 in lilypond: warning about \version for short snippets

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Enhancement Priority-Low

New issue 945 by percival.music.ca: warning about \version for short  
snippets

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=945

Don't discuss this issue unless you're seriously willing to work on it --
putting patches, organising discussion on -devel, etc.


Currently we show a warning if there's no \version statement.  This is teh
suck for the tutorial -- do we explain that people need to write
  \version "2.12.0"
before they've even learned what
  { c'4 }
means, or do we let their first view of lilypond be a warning?

I see a few options:
1.  Suck it up and explain \version as the first thing.
2.  Suck it up and tell newbies to ignore the warning.  (IMO, that's even
worse, since it trains them to ignore warnings)
3.  Do something intelligent in lilypond, like only warning about \version
if the input file is more than 10 lines long.

I prefer #3, of course.


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Issue 944 in lilypond: settings for less than 1 (full) line

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Enhancement Priority-Low

New issue 944 by percival.music.ca: settings for less than 1 (full) line
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=944

Don't discuss this issue unless you're seriously willing to work on it --
putting patches, organising discussion on -devel, etc.


We set ragged-right and ragged-last for short snippets (below).  We might
also want to:
- set indent=0\mm
- set left-margin=0\mm

Some discussion here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-12/msg00360.html


Info from Sven Axelsson:
Jyst FYI: the code in question is in lily/constrained-breaking.cc
in SHA 6673b8fee.

The patch looks like this:

 +  /* As a special case, if there is only one line in the score and
ragged-right
+ hasn't been specifically forbidden and the line is stretched, use
+ ragged spacing. */
+  if (last && i == 0
+  && lines_.at (i, j).force_ >= 0
+  && !scm_is_bool (pscore_->layout ()->c_variable ("ragged-right"))
+  && !scm_is_bool (pscore_->layout ()->c_variable ("ragged-last")))
+ragged = true;

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Re: Issue 932 in lilypond: Vertical spacing: repeat brackets and tablatures exceeding page bottom

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: fixed_2_13_10

Comment #1 on issue 932 by joeneeman: Vertical spacing: repeat brackets and  
tablatures exceeding page bottom

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=932

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Re: Issue 628 in lilypond: Regression: markup \note doesn't work as a TimeSignature stencil

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: fixed_2_13_10

Comment #8 on issue 628 by n.puttock: Regression: markup \note doesn't work  
as a TimeSignature stencil

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=628

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Re: Issue 943 in lilypond: A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 943 by lemzwerg: A slur should follow the same vertical  
direction it would have in unbroken state.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=943

And please format the example so that its description is in texinfo format  
--

and it should compile!  (Your code above lacks a closing double quote in the
\version line.)

For an example look at issue #928.

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Re: Issue 943 in lilypond: A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 943 by percival.music.ca: A slur should follow the same  
vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=943

Why should a slur blah blah blah?

(hint: specify the filename.  That way, we know that you're speaking from  
authority

(well, the authority of whoever added that regtest in the first place))

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Re: Issue 943 in lilypond: A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: Type-Defect

Comment #1 on issue 943 by jameseli...@googlemail.com: A slur should follow  
the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=943

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Issue 943 in lilypond: A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Priority-Regression

New issue 943 by jameseli...@googlemail.com: A slur should follow the same  
vertical direction it would have in unbroken state.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=943

A slur should follow the same vertical direction it would have in unbroken
state. The following proves the opposite.

\version "2.13.9
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
\relative c''{
e1( \break a,)
\time 2/4
}


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Re: Catching up on bugs

2009-12-20 Thread James Bailey
In checking the regressions, I've come across some issues. And, sorry  
for posting these all in one go, but I've just been saving them up  
until one day I could post a massive email and have the bug tracker  
explode with new regression issues.


Regressions:

page-label.ly:
line 35: \mark \markup { A (page \concat { \page-ref #'markA "0"  
"?" ) }} \label #'markA
displayed as I would expect it in 2.12.2, 2.13.9 puts the mark too  
far to the left.


slur-broken-trend.ly the first example e''1( \break a,) flips the  
slur direction; according to the description (and the behavior in  
2.12) it shouldn't


Issues:

Is the difference between 2.12 and 2.13.9 on ‘page-spacing-staff- 
group.ly’  intentional?


page-turn-page-breaking-badturns.ly it recovers well, but is not  
displayed on 3 pages.


page-turn-page-breaking-repeats is the difference intentional?  
Personally, I think it's an improvement, but that's just from the  
limited example presented here.


page-turn-page-breaking.ly needs to be re-written to show the  
functionality.


profile-property-access.ly errors and fails when I try to compile it.  
Additionally, the properties shown in the output are all 0


quote-during.ly and quote.ly appear to be fundamentally identical.  
Additionally, quote-during references cueDuring in the explanatory  
text, although cueDuring isn't used in the example.


ragged-right-compressed.ly compiles correctly, but the display in the  
html and pdf documentation is on two lines, but the description (and  
the output of compiling the example) are on one line


size11-26.ly is it worth it to include allfontstyle.ily in the  
documentation download? I downloaded the documentation, and it isn't  
included. Consequently, I couldn't compile any of these examples.


On 12.12.2009, at 06:43, Graham Percival wrote:


With the release of 2.13.9, we now believe that all bugs are
either fixed, or have been added to the issue tracker.  If you
have reported a bug and it is not in the tracker, please check the
bug reporting guidelines and re-submit it.
  http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/bug-reports


Valentin, James: I think it's time for the annual "checking the
regression tests".  Instructions are in the Contributor's Guide
6.4 Checking and verifying issues.  I'll let you two decide who
does what.  It would be nice if this was done within a week or so;
it's not a huge job.

After that, we'll have 2.13.10, and then you two can start
checking all issues.  There will be more specific guidelines about
tagging and priorities.  I'm going to collect my thoughts into
specific proposals, and begin discussions later today or tomorrow.

Cheers,
- Graham




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Re: Issue 867 in lilypond: lilypond-book can have hash collisions

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Type-Enhancement Type-Other

Comment #3 on issue 867 by percival.music.ca: lilypond-book can have hash  
collisions

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=867

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Han-Wen adds:

We already have a plausible explanation, and a fairly simple solution:
use flock() in ly:parse-file on the .ly file.

Overwriting files is not actually a problem, since the .ly files will
be overwritten by the same content.

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Issue 942 in lilypond: out-www/web/ has upper-case and lower-case filenames

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Other Priority-Low Maintainability

New issue 942 by percival.music.ca: out-www/web/ has upper-case and  
lower-case filenames

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=942

gperc...@gperciva-desktop:~/src/build-lilypond/Documentation$ ls -lh
out-www/web/?anuals.*
-rw-r--r-- 2 gperciva gperciva 1.6K 2009-12-20 16:35
out-www/web/Manuals.fr.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 gperciva gperciva 9.4K 2009-12-20 16:35  
out-www/web/manuals.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 gperciva gperciva 1.6K 2009-12-20 16:35  
out-www/web/Manuals.html

-rw-r--r-- 2 gperciva gperciva 6.6K 2009-12-20 16:36
out-www/web/manuals.nl.html


The upper-case Manuals.html only has a link to the lower-case manuals.html,
so I guess the website still works, but it would be nice if those weren't
created.

These almost-empty capitalized-filenames don't appear for the other manuals
(at least, not learning/ and notation/ ; I didn't check the rest).  Since
they now use the same init file and the only difference is that web has -D
web, it shouldn't be too hard to find out why this happens.



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Re: Issue 940 in lilypond: unify announcement methods

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 940 by percival.music.ca: unify announcement methods
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=940

I'm not logging into any webpage.  Does it have a command-line client that  
can be

driven by a python script?  If not, then no thanks.

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Re: Issue 938 in lilypond: building lilypond omf files: what, why, how, etc

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Type-Documentation Type-Other

Comment #3 on issue 938 by percival.music.ca: building lilypond omf files:  
what, why, how, etc

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=938

How are they used: I mean, does anybody use them?  If I go to a repository  
of
open-source manuals (do those exist?), is lilypond listed?  Does redhat use  
them to
help the packaging?  in short, would anybody notice if we dropped support  
for them

entirely?

are the generated correctly?  on my local system, I see:
  

  
  
   gperciva (None)
  
  
is that correct?  What does it say on the official, distributed, version?   
Are the
omf files actually included in the official, distributed version?  If not,  
then it

seems obvious that we can just junk them.


Valentin:
This isn't an issue that can be solved by editing texinfo, ly, or scm  
files, so it's
not documentation.  I'm clarifying this distinction in the new bug  
classifications.
We're not just "documenting it somewhere", because it's not clear what the  
answer

those questions _is_.

Look, it's not an urgent issue.  It has the lowest possible priority.  I  
don't care
if nobody looks at this for another year.  But if you *do* look into it, I  
want

everything answered.

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Re: Issue 941 in lilypond: Enhancement: merging make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Cc: nicolas.sceaux

Comment #1 on issue 941 by v.villenave: Enhancement: merging  
make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=941

I understand Nicolas is on it (or something like that).

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Re: Enhancement request: make-markup-command cleanup and docs

2009-12-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:01 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:
> The current state of make-markup-command is less than satisfactory since
> make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command have different
> syntaxes and semantics, making the latter an "insider" command that
> complicates the transition from advanced user to Lilypond contributor.

Thanks, added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=941

Cheers,
Valentin


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Issue 941 in lilypond: Enhancement: merging make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Status: Started
Owner: v.villenave
Labels: Priority-Medium Type-Enhancement Maintainability Patch

New issue 941 by v.villenave: Enhancement: merging make-markup-command and  
make-builtin-markup-command

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=941

New request from David Kastrup:

"""
make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command have different
syntaxes and semantics, making the latter an "insider" command that
complicates the transition from advanced user to Lilypond contributor.

There has been work done on unifying the syntax at
http://codereview.appspot.com/160048>.  The last changes of those
patch sets have eliminated make-builtin-markup-command completely, and
one has been adding a command line option that stops indexing for
make-builtin-markup-command (and the respective markup list command)
completely.  The latter will make only sense if the effect of this
option is made to extend to further commands not related to markup.
"

David also mentioned that the Contributor's Guide could be improved in this
regard:

"""
If the decision is "no change at all", the patch set at
http://codereview.appspot.com/157133> improves the CG
documentation.  It also forms an excellent starting point if the
decision is to incorporate more of the first-mentioned patch, or
otherwise change the commands of make-markup flavor.
"

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Re: Issue 940 in lilypond: unify announcement methods

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 940 by v.villenave: unify announcement methods
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=940

If we want to go social-networking, there are unified platforms for this:
http://ping.fm/networks/

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Re: Issue 938 in lilypond: building lilypond omf files: what, why, how, etc

2009-12-20 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Type-Other Type-Documentation

Comment #2 on issue 938 by v.villenave: building lilypond omf files: what,  
why, how, etc

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=938

Then perhaps we should just document this somewhere? Honestly, I'm not sure  
this

discussion even belongs in the tracker...

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Enhancement request: make-markup-command cleanup and docs

2009-12-20 Thread David Kastrup

The current state of make-markup-command is less than satisfactory since
make-markup-command and make-builtin-markup-command have different
syntaxes and semantics, making the latter an "insider" command that
complicates the transition from advanced user to Lilypond contributor.

There has been work done on unifying the syntax at
http://codereview.appspot.com/160048>.  The last changes of those
patch sets have eliminated make-builtin-markup-command completely, and
one has been adding a command line option that stops indexing for
make-builtin-markup-command (and the respective markup list command)
completely.  The latter will make only sense if the effect of this
option is made to extend to further commands not related to markup.

So there remains a technical decision pending about the accepted scope
of the proposed changes (from none at all to the last change set).  This
decision needs to be done by somebody with commit privileges and the
required authority.

Once this has been done, the changed (or unchanged) state needs further
documentation in the CG (the in-code documentation for all variants
appears par for the course to me).

If the decision is "no change at all", the patch set at
http://codereview.appspot.com/157133> improves the CG
documentation.  It also forms an excellent starting point if the
decision is to incorporate more of the first-mentioned patch, or
otherwise change the commands of make-markup flavor.

With the mentioned sources of input, the improvement of the
contributor's guide would appear to be a task at frog level once a
decision about the scope of code changes has been made.

-- 
David Kastrup



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