Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:


On 3/19/10 8:40 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote:


According to the documentation for 2.12.3 There is no support for chords
where the same note occurs with different accidentals in the same chord.  I
have a situation where this is required and would like to add it as an
enhancement request.


I've copied this to bug-lilypond so an issue can get made on the tracker,
but I doubt this will get worked on in the near future.


This issue has been discussed on the mailing lists several times over 
the years. The first question is what layout such a feature would use. 
One option is shown in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505, but I 
guess there's no single established typesetting practice for these 
situations.


  /Mats



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Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:39:14PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
 Quoting Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu:

 On 3/19/10 8:40 AM, Phil Holmes em...@philholmes.net wrote:

 According to the documentation for 2.12.3 There is no support for chords
 where the same note occurs with different accidentals in the same chord.  I
 have a situation where this is required and would like to add it as an
 enhancement request.

 I've copied this to bug-lilypond so an issue can get made on the tracker,
 but I doubt this will get worked on in the near future.

 This issue has been discussed on the mailing lists several times over  
 the years. The first question is what layout such a feature would use.  
 One option is shown in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=505

This is the way one sees this in a lot of Stravinsky scores and seems fairly 
common. If this layout were used to start with, others could be added as 
options later if there is any call for them.

Bernard


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Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Phil,

 The attached image is how this appears in the Chappell version of The 
 Mikado.

Your example isn't technically a situation where the same note occurs with two 
different accidentals in the same chord -- it has two different voices!

Cheers,
Kieren.

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Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Phil,

 understood it to mean that when there are 2 notes in 2 voices but which have 
 the same fundamental note, only differing in an accidental, then LilyPond 
 doesn't support this.

Nope -- but we should adjust the documentation if it's unclear.

 I do have the chords set in different voices and it shows as in the attached 
 clip - it incorrectly makes the first note of the 2nd voice a natural.

That's a different issue:

\score {
  \new Staff 
\new Voice { \voiceOne fis'8[ g'] }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo #(set-accidental-style 'voice) b f'!8[ b f'] }
  
}

See 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#Automatic-accidentals
 for more information.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.

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Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/20/10 9:43 AM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca
wrote:

 Hi Phil,
 
 understood it to mean that when there are 2 notes in 2 voices but which have
 the same fundamental note, only differing in an accidental, then LilyPond
 doesn't support this.
 
 Nope -- but we should adjust the documentation if it's unclear.
 
 I do have the chords set in different voices and it shows as in the attached
 clip - it incorrectly makes the first note of the 2nd voice a natural.
 
 That's a different issue:
 
 \score {
   \new Staff 
 \new Voice { \voiceOne fis'8[ g'] }
 \new Voice { \voiceTwo #(set-accidental-style 'voice) b f'!8[ b f'] }
 
 }

It seems to me that this is a bug; the fis' and the f' are not the same
note, and therefore the note-heads should not be merged.

Thanks,

Carl



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Clipped images in 2.13.16 documentation

2010-03-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
The music images in NR 1.1.3 Automatic accidentals are all clipped too tight
on the bottom; the beams on the first notes in the bottom staff are cut off.

Carl



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Re: Enhancement request

2010-03-20 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl,

 It seems to me that this is a bug; the fis' and the f' are not the same
 note, and therefore the note-heads should not be merged.

Yes, *that's* the bug (not the accidental handling).  =)

For the record, I [quickly] tried a number of shifting attempts, but couldn't 
duplicate the original sample -- both accidentals kept shifting with the 
left-most note column.

Cheers,
Kieren.

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Re: bug squad: checking regtests

2010-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 02:34:40PM -0700, Patrick McCarty wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Graham Percival
 gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
  I ask because I wrote down a list of 3 regtests that looked broken
  to me before releasing 2.13.16, but I thought this would be a nice
  test.  :)
 
 Was this one of the culprits?

Yes, that was one of the three.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Lilypond not working anymore

2010-03-20 Thread Mickey
I had written a program that transforms guitar tablature to Lilypond input 
codes for saxophone notes. I was using Lilypond successfully to produce 
acrobat and windows media files of saxophone music. I recently tried to use 
Lilypond and it has stopped working for my program and also it won't recognize 
any correct input. I drag and drop notepads like I used to and nothing 
happens. I have uninstalled and reinstalled every version at least twice and 
the same thing happens each time. It won't even open the test that comes with 
it. I spent months creating that program and it will only work with Lilypond 
and I really need it badly for a project I am involved in. Please pleaseplease 
help me understand what I am doing wrong so that I can get back to using 
Lilypond. 



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Re: Lilypond not working anymore

2010-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
Learn how to debug and diagnose problems.  Computers are not
magic.  If it used to work, and now doesn't work, then something
that you changed caused it to stop working.

If you send a proper bug report, we might take a look at it.

- Graham


On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:58:56PM +, Mickey wrote:
 I had written a program that transforms guitar tablature to Lilypond input 
 codes for saxophone notes. I was using Lilypond successfully to produce 
 acrobat and windows media files of saxophone music. I recently tried to use 
 Lilypond and it has stopped working for my program and also it won't 
 recognize 
 any correct input. I drag and drop notepads like I used to and nothing 
 happens. I have uninstalled and reinstalled every version at least twice and 
 the same thing happens each time. It won't even open the test that comes with 
 it. I spent months creating that program and it will only work with Lilypond 
 and I really need it badly for a project I am involved in. Please 
 pleaseplease 
 help me understand what I am doing wrong so that I can get back to using 
 Lilypond. 
 
 
 
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