Re: Repeat of accidentals after a quotation

2010-07-14 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 7/14/10 10:22 AM, "Ralph Palmer"  wrote:

> Greetings, Jean-François -
> 
> As a musician, I would not expect the accidental to carry over from the
> quotation. The quotation is not only in another voice, it's from another
> part. If you wish to submit a new feature request for a switch, then please
> submit a minimal example (snippet).
> 
> Respectfully,
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jean-François Lucarelli <
> j-f.lucare...@espace-midi.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Webmaster,
>> 
>> This is not a bug, but a suggestion.
>> 
>> During use of quotation, if an accidental appears in the  quotation, then
>> the
>> same accidental in the real notes is not repeated.
>> 
>> So, you can see in this picture :
>> http://i30.servimg.com/u/f30/09/00/19/53/quotat10.jpg
>> 
>> The 'ges' at the right of the picture must be specified 'ges!'.
>> 
>> This is a source of error, because the quotations are added when all the
>> score
>> has been reverified.
>> 

I think you are both saying the same thing.  Jean-Francois is saying that
because the accidental is in the quoted music, it doesn't appear in the main
music unless it is explicitly added via ges!

Jean-Francois, can you make a tiny example that shows this behavior so we
can put it in the tracker?

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Issue 1182 in lilypond: Website rendering problem with navigation bar in IE 6

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 1182 by pnorcks: Website rendering problem with  
navigation bar in IE 6

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1182

Let's keep the issue open.

Who knows, maybe tomorrow an enthusiastic web developer/LilyPond user with  
expertise in cross-browser compatibility will submit a patch to fix the  
issue.  :)


Also, as Graham noted, if anyone complains about the website being broken  
for IE6, we can point them to this issue.



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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #9 on issue 1188 by fenevad: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

I'll try playing around with this when 2.13.29 is available and see if  
there are any issues that emerge with different sizes. -Arle



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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: fixed_2_13_29

Comment #12 on issue 1180 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: LM 4.5.3 Real music  
example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

Having now seen the pdf output of the newest 2.13.29 doc I assume the issue  
is fixed. Please someone else verify after 2.13.29 is released.
The interdependency with issue 1015 has to be reconsidered when working on  
1015, but this has already been mentioned with this issue.




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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #8 on issue 1188 by fenevad: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

If the images above are indicated of the 2.13.29 build, I'd say that this  
fixes the problem. I've checked it and, although I haven't verified, the  
leading in the examples looks to be about the 1.2 x font size optimal  
minimum. So I would say that this is fixed if the behavior is consistent.  
Thanks for the quick fix.



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Re: Issue 1182 in lilypond: Website rendering problem with navigation bar in IE 6

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 1182 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Website rendering  
problem with navigation bar in IE 6

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1182

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#Version_6 states that since  
2010/03/01 Google Sites and Google Docs don't support IE6 anymore. Since  
2010/03/13 IE6 isn't supported anymore by Youtube.

So it should be OK for LilyPond not to support it also?
Especially as the problem is definitely less severe than the rendering  
problems for IE7 in issue 1160.

Should we close the issue and stop supporting IE6?


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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: fixed_2_13_29

Comment #7 on issue 1188 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Inconsistent line  
spacing in lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

So I'll declare this issue "fixed" but explicitely leave it to someone else  
to verify!



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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #6 on issue 1188 by perpeduumimmobile: Inconsistent line spacing in  
lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

IIUC, minimum-distance is measured in staff-space units, so the "minimum  
line-height" specified it defines is not changed with different font-sizes.
IMHO, it's not The Real Thing (tm), but good enough for almost all common  
needs (postponed?).  At least it's not as bad as the need to manually scale  
staff-space /and/ font-size when resizing staves...


Besides, the bounding box not going over the theoretically maximal  
character height has it's benefits for fitting the Lyrics tight to the  
staff (very important for compressed French scores).  Note that Lyrics can  
be above or below the staff, so both directions matter.  Not sure whether  
Lyrics have real skylines, though, or just a simple rectangle per line.



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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 1188 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Inconsistent line  
spacing in lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

For me it seems this solved the problem.
But I'm feeling a bit awkward already closing the issue - I just aren't  
experienced enpough.

So I'll leave it for a day or two to let others give their opinion to it.


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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 1188 by pnorcks: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

I don't really know either, but here is the other example Arle posted to  
the list.


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-07/msg00238.html

Though, the line spacing now looks pretty good, IMO :)

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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels



OK, then please change the status to fixed.


I can't - I don't have sufficient permissions.


Or is this impossible because of the 1015 issue?


Maybe .. I don't know.

Trevor


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Re: Issue 1182 in lilypond: Website rendering problem with navigation bar in IE 6

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 1182 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Website rendering  
problem with navigation bar in IE 6

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1182

Change the LilyPond image for a "Get Firefox" Button?
Sorry, that was inappropriate ;-)


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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread Urs Liska

Am 15.07.2010 00:08, schrieb Trevor Daniels:



When (and where) can I see these changes.
So far I am only working with the binary releases, and I don't see 
this  will be changing shortly ...


The changes are in git for anyone who can build the
docs and will appear in the documentation to 2.13.29
when that is released.  I guess verification can wait
until then.

Trevor



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OK, then please change the status to fixed.
Or is this impossible because of the 1015 issue?

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Re: Issue 1182 in lilypond: Website rendering problem with navigation bar in IE 6

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 1182 by pnorcks: Website rendering problem with  
navigation bar in IE 6

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1182

As I was working on the CSS, I knew that it would not work with IE6, so I  
made a decision early on that IE6 would not be supported.


The primary problem is that IE6 does not support the child selector (>).   
If someone can figure out how to work around that issue, the website will  
look much better on IE6.



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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels



When (and where) can I see these changes.
So far I am only working with the binary releases, and I don't see 
this  will be changing shortly ...


The changes are in git for anyone who can build the
docs and will appear in the documentation to 2.13.29
when that is released.  I guess verification can wait
until then.

Trevor



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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 1188 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Inconsistent line  
spacing in lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

Does a default value take care of the line spacing being regular? (Just  
asking because I don't really understand what's going on)
I think the picture in comment #2 looks very good. But I don't know how it  
behaves when the circumstances change (different contents, different  
font-size etc.)



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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 1188 by pnorcks: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

Joe just added a default value for 'minimum distance (2.8), so the 2.13.29  
rendering will look as attached.


Is this an acceptable default?

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Re: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread Urs Liska
Added the issue to the issue tracker: 
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188


Thanks for posting the concise report
Urs

Am 14.07.2010 18:31, schrieb Arle Lommel:

I'm not top posting.
 

Line height in lyric mode is set not based on the em square of the
font (which is the proper unit for almost all marco-level font
measurements) but rather on the PostScript bounding box height (or
something very similar to it) of the line. This results in
unpredictable and inconsistent line spacing. The example included
below shows the problem (my apologies for the length, but there need
to be enough lines of lyrics to show the problems), as described here:

1. The spacing (leading) of the first two lines is acceptable
(although tighter than ideal) because they all have ascenders and
descenders, meaning that that the bounding box for the line is
somewhat close to the em square height.

2. The third line, however, lacks descenders, so its bounding box sits
at the baseline and now the fourth line sits too close to it.
Similarly the fifth line is too close to the fourth for the same
reason.

3. The sixth line, however, shows the worst-case scenario: it lacks
ascenders and occurs under a line with no descenders so the sixth line
sits *far* too close to the fifth line.

This seems to be a clear bug since (a) it results in unpredictable
behavior (you cannot predict line spacing without knowing the content
of the line, whereas the line spacing should be independent of the
content) and (b) it requires manual tweaks like this to fix the
spacing (tweaks that might need to be altered whenever you change the
lyrics being displayed):

\override VerticalAxisGroup #'inter-loose-line-spacing = #'((space .
1) (padding . 1) (minimum-distance . 4) (stretchability . 1))

(In which the minimum-distance value must be altered from line to line
just to achieve optimal, even space.)

The seeming solution would be to base positioning of lines in lyric
mode based on the em square of the font, not the PostScript bounding
box.

*

\version "2.13.28"
\header {
 title = "Alma a fa alatt, nyári piros alma"
}
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

melody = \relative a' {
 \key c \dorian
 \time 4/4
 \clef treble

 c4\( bes8 g8 c8 bes8 g4 |
 ees4 f4 g8 f4. |
 c2 c4\) r4 \bar "|."
}

verseOne = {
 \set stanza = #"1. "
 \lyricmode {
 Sze -- re -- tem a lá -- nyát, nem te -- he -- tek ró -- la.
 }
}

verseOneE = {
 \lyricmode {
 But I can -- not help that, for I love her daugh -- ter.
 }
}

verseTwo = {
 \set stanza = #"2. "
 \lyricmode {
 Fe -- le -- szi a fe -- ne a ba -- ka há -- tá -- ra.
 }
}

verseTwoE = {
 \lyricmode {
 So to hell with it on the back of that sol -- dier.
 }
}

verseThree = {
 \set stanza = #"3. "
 \lyricmode {
 Sok zá -- ros csó -- ko -- mért zu -- tok az e -- szed -- be.
 }
}

verseThreeE = {
 \lyricmode {
 aaa sss -- ee  zz , sss eee  aa --  -- ee.
 }
}

\score {
 <<
 \new Voice = "melody" {
 \melody
 }
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOne
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOneE
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwo
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwoE
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThree
 \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThreeE
 >>
}

\layout {
   \context {
 \Lyrics
   }
}


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Re: Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 1188 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Inconsistent line  
spacing in lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

In addition to just quoting the original bug report by Arle Lommel I'd add  
some comments:

1)
The line spacing will not only change when the lyrics are changed but even  
when the line breaking changes (because this implicitly changes the lyrics  
contained in the line). IMO this makes the issue even more severe.

2)
I find this "highly embarrassing" because the attached example looks really  
ugly. So I'd welcome someone with more experience change the Priority to  
high.



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Issue 1188 in lilypond: Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Medium

New issue 1188 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Inconsistent line spacing in  
lyric mode

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1188

Original bug report:  
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-07/msg00185.html
More discussion:  
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-07/msg00210.html


"Line height in lyric mode is set not based on the em square of the
font (which is the proper unit for almost all marco-level font
measurements) but rather on the PostScript bounding box height (or
something very similar to it) of the line. This results in
unpredictable and inconsistent line spacing. The example included
below shows the problem (my apologies for the length, but there need
to be enough lines of lyrics to show the problems), as described here:

1. The spacing (leading) of the first two lines is acceptable
(although tighter than ideal) because they all have ascenders and
descenders, meaning that that the bounding box for the line is
somewhat close to the em square height.

2. The third line, however, lacks descenders, so its bounding box sits
at the baseline and now the fourth line sits too close to it.
Similarly the fifth line is too close to the fourth for the same
reason.

3. The sixth line, however, shows the worst-case scenario: it lacks
ascenders and occurs under a line with no descenders so the sixth line
sits *far* too close to the fifth line.

This seems to be a clear bug since (a) it results in unpredictable
behavior (you cannot predict line spacing without knowing the content
of the line, whereas the line spacing should be independent of the
content) and (b) it requires manual tweaks like this to fix the
spacing (tweaks that might need to be altered whenever you change the
lyrics being displayed):

\override VerticalAxisGroup #'inter-loose-line-spacing = #'((space .
1) (padding . 1) (minimum-distance . 4) (stretchability . 1))

(In which the minimum-distance value must be altered from line to line
just to achieve optimal, even space.)

The seeming solution would be to base positioning of lines in lyric
mode based on the em square of the font, not the PostScript bounding
box."

*

\version "2.13.28"
\header {
title = "Alma a fa alatt, nyári piros alma"
}
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

melody = \relative a' {
\key c \dorian
\time 4/4
\clef treble

c4\( bes8 g8 c8 bes8 g4 |
ees4 f4 g8 f4. |
c2 c4\) r4 \bar "|."
}

verseOne = {
\set stanza = #"1. "
\lyricmode {
Sze -- re -- tem a lá -- nyát, nem te -- he -- tek ró -- la.
}
}

verseOneE = {
\lyricmode {
But I can -- not help that, for I love her daugh -- ter.
}
}

verseTwo = {
\set stanza = #"2. "
\lyricmode {
Fe -- le -- szi a fe -- ne a ba -- ka há -- tá -- ra.
}
}

verseTwoE = {
\lyricmode {
So to hell with it on the back of that sol -- dier.
}
}

verseThree = {
\set stanza = #"3. "
\lyricmode {
Sok zá -- ros csó -- ko -- mért zu -- tok az e -- szed -- be.
}
}

verseThreeE = {
\lyricmode {
aaa sss -- ee  zz , sss eee  aa --  -- ee.
}
}

\score {
<<
\new Voice = "melody" {
\melody
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOne
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOneE
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwo
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwoE
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThree
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThreeE
>>
}

\layout {
  \context {
\Lyrics
  }
}


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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #11 on issue 1180 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: LM 4.5.3 Real music  
example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

Sorry, I don't see how I can use these links.
Probably it's sufficient to wait for a release to evaluate the changes?


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Re: Issue 1186 in lilypond: Problem in Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic notation inside markup":

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: Priority-Medium

Comment #2 on issue 1186 by pnorcks: Problem in Notation 1.8.2,  
section "Graphic notation inside markup":

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1186

Bugs need a priority too.


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Re: Issue 1186 in lilypond: Problem in Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic notation inside markup":

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 1186 by pnorcks: Problem in Notation 1.8.2,  
section "Graphic notation inside markup":

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1186

Issue 1187 has been merged into this issue.


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Re: Issue 1187 in lilypond: EPS file not included in snippet

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Duplicate
Mergedinto: 1186

Comment #1 on issue 1187 by pnorcks: EPS file not included in snippet
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1187

Whoops...


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Re: [doc] Notation 1.8.2: file .eps not found?

2010-07-14 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:05:10PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've found a small error in documentation.
>
> In Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic notation inside markup":
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13//Documentation/notation/formatting-text#graphic-notation-inside-markup
>
>
> in the last example you can see that no image has been rendered and
> there's some blank space.
>
> The snippet includes an .eps file:
>
> \epsfile #X #10 #"./context-example.eps"
>
> which is located in Documentation/pictures.
> Maybe ../context-example.eps would work?

Ralph reported this here:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1186

Thanks,
Patrick

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Issue 1187 in lilypond: EPS file not included in snippet

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Documentation Priority-Medium

New issue 1187 by pnorcks: EPS file not included in snippet
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1187

New report from Federico Bruni:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-07/msg00216.html

"
In Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic notation inside markup":
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13//Documentation/notation/formatting-text#graphic-notation-inside-markup

in the last example you can see that no image has been rendered and
there's some blank space.

The snippet includes an .eps file:

\epsfile #X #10 #"./context-example.eps"

which is located in Documentation/pictures.
Maybe ../context-example.eps would work?
"


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Re: Issue 1129 in lilypond: Font styles return to default when font size changed

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 1129 by jworlton: Font styles return to default when  
font size changed

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1129

This bug also appears *without* the change to the font tree:

\version "2.13.26"
\score {
 <<
\new Voice = "cantus" { \clef "G_8" c8  d e f  }
\new Lyrics
   \lyricsto "cantus" { \lyricmode { Al -- le -- lu -- ia. } }
  >>
  \layout { }
}

%   Bigger Score - inadvertedly get default font

\score {
 <<
\new Voice = "cantus" { \clef "G_8" c8  d e f  }
\new Lyrics
   \lyricsto "cantus" { \lyricmode { Al -- le -- lu -- ia. } }
  >>
  \layout {
  #(layout-set-staff-size 30)
  }
}


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Inconsistent line spacing in lyric mode

2010-07-14 Thread Arle Lommel
> I'm not top posting.

Line height in lyric mode is set not based on the em square of the
font (which is the proper unit for almost all marco-level font
measurements) but rather on the PostScript bounding box height (or
something very similar to it) of the line. This results in
unpredictable and inconsistent line spacing. The example included
below shows the problem (my apologies for the length, but there need
to be enough lines of lyrics to show the problems), as described here:

1. The spacing (leading) of the first two lines is acceptable
(although tighter than ideal) because they all have ascenders and
descenders, meaning that that the bounding box for the line is
somewhat close to the em square height.

2. The third line, however, lacks descenders, so its bounding box sits
at the baseline and now the fourth line sits too close to it.
Similarly the fifth line is too close to the fourth for the same
reason.

3. The sixth line, however, shows the worst-case scenario: it lacks
ascenders and occurs under a line with no descenders so the sixth line
sits *far* too close to the fifth line.

This seems to be a clear bug since (a) it results in unpredictable
behavior (you cannot predict line spacing without knowing the content
of the line, whereas the line spacing should be independent of the
content) and (b) it requires manual tweaks like this to fix the
spacing (tweaks that might need to be altered whenever you change the
lyrics being displayed):

\override VerticalAxisGroup #'inter-loose-line-spacing = #'((space .
1) (padding . 1) (minimum-distance . 4) (stretchability . 1))

(In which the minimum-distance value must be altered from line to line
just to achieve optimal, even space.)

The seeming solution would be to base positioning of lines in lyric
mode based on the em square of the font, not the PostScript bounding
box.

*

\version "2.13.28"
\header {
title = "Alma a fa alatt, nyári piros alma"
}
\paper{ ragged-right=##t }

melody = \relative a' {
\key c \dorian
\time 4/4
\clef treble

c4\( bes8 g8 c8 bes8 g4 |
ees4 f4 g8 f4. |
c2 c4\) r4 \bar "|."
}

verseOne = {
\set stanza = #"1. "
\lyricmode {
Sze -- re -- tem a lá -- nyát, nem te -- he -- tek ró -- la.
}
}

verseOneE = {
\lyricmode {
But I can -- not help that, for I love her daugh -- ter.
}
}

verseTwo = {
\set stanza = #"2. "
\lyricmode {
Fe -- le -- szi a fe -- ne a ba -- ka há -- tá -- ra.
}
}

verseTwoE = {
\lyricmode {
So to hell with it on the back of that sol -- dier.
}
}

verseThree = {
\set stanza = #"3. "
\lyricmode {
Sok zá -- ros csó -- ko -- mért zu -- tok az e -- szed -- be.
}
}

verseThreeE = {
\lyricmode {
aaa sss -- ee  zz , sss eee  aa --  -- ee.
}
}

\score {
<<
\new Voice = "melody" {
\melody
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOne
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseOneE
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwo
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseTwoE
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThree
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \verseThreeE
>>
}

\layout {
  \context {
\Lyrics
  }
}


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Issue 1186 in lilypond: Problem in Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic notation inside markup":

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Documentation

New issue 1186 by RalphBugList: Problem in Notation 1.8.2, section "Graphic  
notation inside markup":

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1186

Documentation issue :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13//Documentation/notation/formatting-text#graphic-notation-inside-markup

in the last example you can see that no image has been rendered and there's  
some blank space.


The snippet includes an .eps file:

epsfile #X #10 #"./context-example.eps"

which is located in Documentation/pictures.
Maybe ../context-example.eps would work?



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Re: Repeat of accidentals after a quotation

2010-07-14 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings, Jean-François -

As a musician, I would not expect the accidental to carry over from the
quotation. The quotation is not only in another voice, it's from another
part. If you wish to submit a new feature request for a switch, then please
submit a minimal example (snippet).

Respectfully,

Ralph

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jean-François Lucarelli <
j-f.lucare...@espace-midi.com> wrote:

> Dear Webmaster,
>
> This is not a bug, but a suggestion.
>
> During use of quotation, if an accidental appears in the  quotation, then
> the
> same accidental in the real notes is not repeated.
>
> So, you can see in this picture :
> http://i30.servimg.com/u/f30/09/00/19/53/quotat10.jpg
>
> The 'ges' at the right of the picture must be specified 'ges!'.
>
> This is a source of error, because the quotations are added when all the
> score
> has been reverified.
>
> Maybe, you should correct this detail, or purpose a switch to avoid it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jean-François
>
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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #10 on issue 1180 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: LM 4.5.3 Real music  
example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3ae33d7fc91b79043ced4514a8670ce4d9ed2d0

for the main changes

and

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf8dacf7b6462f9e750658621c15b9e781b82ed4

for the line length.

James




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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #9 on issue 1180 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: LM 4.5.3 Real music  
example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

When (and where) can I see these changes.
So far I am only working with the binary releases, and I don't see this  
will be changing shortly ...



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Re: Issue 1015 in lilypond: doc line width

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 1015 by tdanielsmusic: doc line width
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1015

The "real music" example in section Tweaking output in the LM currently  
overrides the line-width to ensure the music appears on a single line.   
Without the override the music breaks after measure 2, causing the phrasing  
slur to collide with the 6/8 time signature.  This needs to be taken into  
consideration when resolving this issue.


Trevor



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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #8 on issue 1180 by tdanielsmusic: LM 4.5.3 Real music example  
needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

I've just pushed two commits as fixes for this issue.

The first commit changes the example to use explicitly instantiated voices  
which permits collision avoidance to work, resulting in a phrasing slur  
which now avoids the beam in measure 3, even with the line break at the end  
of measure 3.  This is a beneficial change in its own right even without  
considering the line break.


The second commit attempts to place the example on one line, as originally  
intended.  The old code included an override to the lilypond command which  
changed the line-width to 5.5\in.  This is too small to prevent a line  
break, so I've changed it to 6\in.  This results in a much cleaner  
example.  However this line-width override will need to reconsidered along  
with issue 1015.



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Re: os.pipe() error in lilypond-book

2010-07-14 Thread Ralph Palmer
Trevor and other Bug-squadders -

I'm not yet set up to run multiple versions of LilyPond. Trevor, can you
submit a minimal example, and can the next-in-line please confirm that there
is a problem and add the issue (or not)?

Ralph

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote:

>
> When I run lilypond-book with 2.13.26 I always get the
> error messages below.  Lilypond-book with 2.13.14 does
> not show this error on the same files.  I've not yet
> tried any releases in between.  Does this os.pipe()
> error ring any bells with anyone?  This is on Windows
> Vista.
>
> Trevor
>
> Running lilypond-book
> lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.13.26
> Reading
> C:\Users\Trevor\LilyPond-git\Documentation\notation\pitches.itely...
> Dissecting...
> Writing snippets...Traceback (most recent call last):
>  File "c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py", line 694, in ?
>   main ()
>  File "c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py", line 676, in
> main
>   chunks = do_file (files[0])
>  File "c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py", line 570, in
> do_fil
> e
>   do_process_cmd (chunks, input_fullname, global_options)
>  File "c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py", line 435, in
> do_pro
> cess_cmd
>   snippet.write_ly()
>  File "c:\program
> files\lilypond\usr\share\lilypond\current\python\book_snippet
> s.py", line 600, in write_ly
>   diff_against_existing = self.filter_pipe (self.full_ly (), 'diff -u %s -'
> %
> filename)
>  File "c:\program
> files\lilypond\usr\share\lilypond\current\python\book_snippet
> s.py", line 721, in filter_pipe
>   p = Popen(cmd, shell=True, stdin=PIPE, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
> close_fds=T
> rue)
>  File "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\subprocess.py", line
> 534, in
> __init__
>   (p2cread, p2cwrite,
>  File "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\lib\python2.4\subprocess.py", line
> 825, in
> _get_handles
>   p2cread, p2cwrite = os.pipe()
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'pipe'
> Lilypond-book returned code 1
>
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Re: Issue 687 in lilypond: Enhancement: inequal MIDI quantization of equal durations (swing, rubato)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #10 on issue 687 by adam.spiers: Enhancement: inequal MIDI  
quantization of equal durations (swing, rubato)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=687

I like the misshapen cam analogy :-)  However I'm not sure it's universally  
applicable, because as observed in comment 5, there are cases where you  
want to displace the starts/ends of notes of a certain length, but not of  
another length.  For example, triplet 8th notes (or four 16th notes) would  
probably be played straight rather than swung when played over swung duplet  
8th notes.  That is a matter of taste and is impossible to predict, which  
is why I proposed a tight selection criteria for which MIDI events get  
displaced.  I thought it would be better for the user to encounter some  
displacements missing than experience unwanted ones, since it's probably  
easier to add more to the list than figure out which ones to remove.


By the way you can think of this problem as being equivalent to having two  
turntables being simultaneously driven, but only one of them has a  
misshapen cam :-)  Or even multiple turntables with differently misshapened  
cams ...


Another thing to bear in mind is that your example chooses a denominator of  
a quarter note, but this must not be hardcoded otherwise it will not cater  
for all scenarios.


I like your idea of composing the swing displacement map function with  
another global factor between 0 and 1 - this would allow users to load  
preset swing maps (e.g. Viennese waltz) and then independently tune how  
much of an effect the preset has on playback.



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Issue 1185 in lilypond: version numbers for large new features

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Other Priority-High Maintainability

New issue 1185 by percival.music.ca: version numbers for large new features
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1185

New features require specific version numbers; new features with syntax  
changes require even more fussiness about version numbers.  If we have a  
devel release every two weeks, there's a lot of "chasing version numbers"  
going on.


The problem is the convert-ly rule for the changed syntax -- if he
wrote the rule for 2.13.25 but doesn't merge until 2.13.29, then
convert-ly will have an incorrect version.  This also applies to
the version number in input/regression/ files.

I'm not entirely certain why he's changing the version number in
Documentation/ files, since those should be updated by running
convert-ly on them (followed by any manual changes that are
necessary)... but here we're in uncharted and definitely
disorganized territory.

The solution might be as simple as an xargs | sed thing.  Or maybe  
something complicated involving git format-patch, seds, git am, branches,  
etc.



Anyway, it would be good if somebody seriously looked into this.



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Issue 1184 in lilypond: easier rietveld patches

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Other Priority-Medium Maintainability

New issue 1184 by percival.music.ca: easier rietveld patches
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1184

1. is there any maoing way to view all rietveld patches for lilypond?  IIRC  
there's such a thing for user-specific patches, so hopefully there is.   
Also, rietveld is an appspot thing; maybe if we had a "lilypond" google  
apps thing, we could have a dedicated code review?
(I'm not actually proposing the latter, but I'd like somebody to look into  
the possibility)


2. how should non-developers comment on patches?  Do we encourage/force  
everybody to use rietveld, or let non-devels use email, or what?



I'll probably tackle these if nobody else does in the next two or three  
weeks.



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Re: Issue 1160 in lilypond: css overrides for ie7

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #11 on issue 1160 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: css overrides for ie7
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1160

AFAICS there's still nobody who has verified the original issue on IE7.


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Re: Issue 1152 in lilypond: Regression: collisions with accidentals

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #7 on issue 1152 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: Regression:  
collisions with accidentals

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1152

OK, I'll verify once I have 2.13.29


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Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #7 on issue 1180 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: LM 4.5.3 Real music  
example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1180

Hi Trevor,
good point. If I'll see something I'll have a new look at it.
Best
Urs


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Re: Issue 1104 in lilypond: Enhancement: 'offset for \underline markup function needed (and proposed)

2010-07-14 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 1104 by perpeduumimmobile: Enhancement: 'offset for  
\underline markup function needed (and proposed)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1104

Hi, Kieren,


LGTM, but I'm not allowed to push, too.  I'm just trying to follow Graham's  
beg for reviewers...


A minor correction:
(* -1 offset) can be simplified to (- offset) in the (let*) clause for y.

I like your default value for offset, since in normalsize text, the  
underline does not cross the descenders of the font.  But I wonder whether  
both offset (linearly) and thickness (<= linearly) should be scaled with  
font-size, for a consistent look e.g. in the ((sub-)sub-)title fields?



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