Re: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels"  writes:

> Hi David
>
> I think the snippet is behaving as intended.  It is
> not a bug.
>
> It would not make sense to position a pp dynamic mark
> in the gap created in a hairpin which goes from mf to
> sff, would it?  The hairpin relates to the lower of the
> two voices, with the gap in the hairpin corresponding
> to the rest in that voice.  In that gap the upper
> voice has a single note, which is to played pp.

That makes sense.  I would not actually interrupt the hairpin at all in
that case (or at least continue it with dashed lines).  Maybe the
accompanying text can be amended so that the intent becomes clearer?

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Re: Issue 1195 in lilypond: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Invalid

Comment #1 on issue 1195 by tdanielsmusic: "Broken crescendo hairpin"  
snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1195

The snippet is behaving as intended.  It is not a bug.

It would not make sense to position a pp dynamic mark
in the gap created in a hairpin which goes from mf to
sff, would it?  The hairpin relates to the lower of the
two voices, with the gap in the hairpin corresponding
to the rest in that voice.  In that gap the upper
voice has a single note, which is to played pp.


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Re: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi David

I think the snippet is behaving as intended.  It is
not a bug.

It would not make sense to position a pp dynamic mark
in the gap created in a hairpin which goes from mf to
sff, would it?  The hairpin relates to the lower of the
two voices, with the gap in the hairpin corresponding
to the rest in that voice.  In that gap the upper
voice has a single note, which is to played pp.

Trevor

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:17 PM
Subject: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is 
broken





The "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" makes 
space
for a dynamics mark which is placed above the staff after all. 
That is
for the current development version and can be seen on the web 
page at

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/snippets/expressive-marks#broken-crescendo-hairpin>











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Issue 1195 in lilypond: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Documentation Priority-Medium

New issue 1195 by lilyli...@googlemail.com: "Broken crescendo hairpin"  
snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1195

Reported by David Kastrup:
"The "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" makes space
for a dynamics mark which is placed above the staff after all.  That is
for the current development version and can be seen on the web page at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/snippets/expressive-marks#broken-crescendo-hairpin>"

This is the snippet:
\version "2.13.28"
\relative c' {
  <<
{
  \dynamicUp
  \override DynamicLineSpanner #'staff-padding = #4
  r2 r16 c'8.\pp r4
}
\\
{
  \override DynamicLineSpanner #'layer = #0
  des,2\mf\< ~
  \override TextScript #'layer = #2
  des16_\markup {
\postscript #"
  1.9 -8 translate
  5 4 scale
  1 setgray
  0 0 moveto
  0 1 lineto
  1 1 lineto
  1 0 lineto
  0 0 lineto
  fill"
  }
  r8. des4 ~ des16->\sff
}
  >>
}

Just commenting out the fifth line "\dynamicUp" (which seems like the  
obvious error) isn't the solution: The pp is placed below the hairpin and  
is partly hidden by the white rectangle (see attachment.
So the pp (and maybe the rectangle) have to be moved to better places and  
the pp has to be placed on top of the rectangle.

Attached the

Attachments:
broken-hairpin.preview.png  3.2 KB


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Re: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread Urs Liska

Am 24.07.2010 13:17, schrieb David Kastrup:

The "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" makes space
for a dynamics mark which is placed above the staff after all.  That is
for the current development version and can be seen on the web page at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/snippets/expressive-marks#broken-crescendo-hairpin>
   
added to the tracker: 
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1195


Best
Urs

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"Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread David Kastrup

The "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" makes space
for a dynamics mark which is placed above the staff after all.  That is
for the current development version and can be seen on the web page at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/snippets/expressive-marks#broken-crescendo-hairpin>

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