Issue 1275 in lilypond: name+email for lily-git.tcl

2010-09-26 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
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Labels: Type-Other Priority-Medium Maintainability Frog

New issue 1275 by percival.music.ca: name+email for lily-git.tcl
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1275

It would be nice if lily-git.tcl had a "setup" button (which is triggered  
automatically the first time it runs) which prompted the user for his name  
and email address (for commit author purposes).



Frog: 2 hours, assuming no previous experience with tcl.  I'd really like a  
frog to tackle this one, because it directly helps other frogs.



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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Carl Sorensen

On 9/26/10 9:20 AM, "Trevor Daniels"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM
> 
>> Problems with a git build are reported on -devel, with a reference
>> to a
>> commit SHA1.
> 
> Hm. Not sure a Bug Squad member should be expected to
> determine the SHA1, if a bug is reported on -bug.
> Forwarding to -dev should be sufficient.
> 

I agree here.  Then a developer can email the reporter if the bug can't be
duplicated to get more information.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: Issue 1274 in lilypond: convert-ly does not warn about #'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

2010-09-26 Thread lilypond

Updates:
	Labels: -Type-Scripts -Priority-Critical -Regression Type-Enhancement  
Priority-Medium


Comment #4 on issue 1274 by n.puttock: convert-ly does not warn about  
#'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1274

But the IR says it should? ("3.1.57 LyricHyphen" -- 3.1.56 in the IR for  
2.12.3)


There's only one description for a property, but for convenience, several  
grobs may use the same property even if they use different code to handle  
the property's behaviour.  I agree it's confusing, but (AFAICT) there's  
never been any deliberate support for hiding hyphens using  
negative 'dash-period.


I see the behaviour in 2.12.3 isn't as strange as I originally thought:  
it's an arithmetical fluke based on the span points, which are wider due to  
the default position of the semibreve in the second bar.  In 2.13, Joe  
tweaked the code which sets the extra space in single-note bars, so the  
notes are closer.


Whether the hyphens appear or not with negative 'dash-period is a matter of  
luck dependent on the space calculated between hyphens.  The following  
snippets have no hyphens in 2.13.34:


\score {
  \relative c'' {
c1 c8 c c c c c c c
  }
  \addlyrics {
la -- la
  }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Lyrics
  \override LyricHyphen #'dash-period = #-1
}
  }
}

\score {
  \relative c'' {
\override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'full-measure-extra-space = #5
c1 c1
  }
  \addlyrics {
la -- la
  }
  \layout {
ragged-right = ##f
\context {
  \Lyrics
  \override LyricHyphen #'dash-period = #-1
}
  }
}


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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels"  writes:

> Phil Holmes wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:26 PM
>
>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Trevor Daniels" 
>>
>>> BTW, please don't reply to messages in newsgroups.
>>> I don't subscribe to any and that makes them very
>>> messy for me to reply to.
>>
>>
>> Tricky.  I _only_ use a newsreader for bugs and devel and so can't
>> reply by mail to send it to the group and the original poster.
>
> Well, I had to copy out the message and reenter
> appropriate email addresses to reply to yours.
> Can't you do the same?

With Emacs, it is a matter of doing C-c C-t after F .  The followup will
then be both sent to the nntp server as well as to the poster, marked as
a "courtesy copy".

-- 
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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels


Phil Holmes wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:26 PM


- Original Message - 
From: "Trevor Daniels" 



BTW, please don't reply to messages in newsgroups.
I don't subscribe to any and that makes them very
messy for me to reply to.



Tricky.  I _only_ use a newsreader for bugs and devel and so can't 
reply by mail to send it to the group and the original poster.


Well, I had to copy out the message and reenter
appropriate email addresses to reply to yours.
Can't you do the same?

Trevor



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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "Trevor Daniels" 


[snip]



Trevor

BTW, please don't reply to messages in newsgroups.
I don't subscribe to any and that makes them very
messy for me to reply to.



Tricky.  I _only_ use a newsreader for bugs and devel and so can't reply by 
mail to send it to the group and the original poster.


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Fw: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels


Phil Holmes wrote"  wrote in message 
news:i7ntha$vm...@dough.gmane.org...
"Trevor Daniels"  wrote in message 
news:f867cc5a71fc42b7b9f90fbb44692...@trevorlaptop...


Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM

On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels"  
wrote:



Carl wrote

Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not 
yet

released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.


Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
a version compiled from git might have existed for some
time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
do we?


We expect the Bug Squad to test on the latest development 
release.


OK.  I see one of the actions for a Bug Squad member
is to generate a png file demonstrating the problem.
This clearly would demonstrate whether a problem which
happened to be noticed in a git build was present in
the latest GUB release.

So I was wrong - we _do_ expect them to do this research.
Presumably they should forward the report to -dev if the
bug does not show in the latest GUB release.


The original report said "does not work with lates git Lilypond 
2.13.35 but works on 2.13.34-1".  So my interpretation of this is 
that there is no bug on any release that most Bug Squad members 
could test to or generate output from.


Yes, that's fine.  I wasn't concerned with this particular
issue, which was quite clear, but with the general procedure
to deal with the case when a bug is reported on -bug which
has been observed in a git build.  This case is not covered
explicitly in the CG.  It seems it should either be forwarded
to -dev or made the subject of a new issue depending on
whether or not the bug manifests itself in the latest GUB
build.  Checking that and carrying out the appropriate
action is a Bug Squad responsibility.

Trevor

BTW, please don't reply to messages in newsgroups.
I don't subscribe to any and that makes them very
messy for me to reply to.




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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Phil Holmes
"Graham Percival"  wrote in message 
news:20100926170646.gc31...@futoi...

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 05:48:37PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:

So nothing for a Bug Squad member to do


Not quite -- you can (and should) mark such issues as Invalid as
soon as they appear.
1) it wasn't added by a Bug Squad member or developer
2) it's not clearly a real bug.

Two strikes and you're out.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham


It had already been marked Invalid by Carl, so nothing to do _at that point_

:-)

It's three.

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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 06:06:46PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 05:48:37PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
> > >OK.  I see one of the actions for a Bug Squad member
> > >is to generate a png file demonstrating the problem.
> 
> Overall, the task of the Bug Squad is to make sure that a claimed
> bug is a real problem, and not just a user error.

Wait, that was a bad summary.  Let me try again:

Overall, the task of the Bug Squad is to make sure that any issue
in the tracker is a real problem, and to give feedback to bug
reporters in a timely fashion (ideally within 24 hours).


I know that we're not meeting that goal, but a few people are
still learning the ropes.  Certainly by the end of this year, I
want the Bug Squad to be fulfilling that job.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 05:48:37PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote:
> "Trevor Daniels"  wrote in message
> news:f867cc5a71fc42b7b9f90fbb44692...@trevorlaptop...
> >
> >>We expect the Bug Squad to test on the latest development release.
> >
> >OK.  I see one of the actions for a Bug Squad member
> >is to generate a png file demonstrating the problem.

Overall, the task of the Bug Squad is to make sure that a claimed
bug is a real problem, and not just a user error.

> >So I was wrong - we _do_ expect them to do this research.
> >Presumably they should forward the report to -dev if the
> >bug does not show in the latest GUB release.
> 
> The original report said "does not work with lates git Lilypond
> 2.13.35 but works on 2.13.34-1".  So my interpretation of this is
> that there is no bug on any release that most Bug Squad members
> could test to or generate output from.

Correct.  To emphasize this point, we absolutely do not expect any
Bug Squad member to compile source code.

> So nothing for a Bug Squad member to do

Not quite -- you can (and should) mark such issues as Invalid as
soon as they appear.
1) it wasn't added by a Bug Squad member or developer
2) it's not clearly a real bug.

Two strikes and you're out.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:14:46AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
> Carl wrote
> 
> >Comment #2 on issue 1273 by Carl.D.Sorensen: Woodwind Diagrams
> >lead to  Ghostscript error in latest git
> >http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1273
> 
> >Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet
> >released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.
> 
> Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
> a version compiled from git might have existed for some
> time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
> do we?

We expect the Bug Squad to check a reported bug in the latest
official GUB build.  We disregard bug reports from git versions
(especially ghostscript-related oens) because most of the time
those problems are related to somebody's specific system (in this
case, the version of ghostscript) that aren't reproducable in GUB.
Now, if somebody honestly has a build problem and reports the
problem clearly, that's fine (and can be added as a type-Build
issue).

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 1273 by percival.music.ca: Woodwind Diagrams lead to  
Ghostscript error in latest git

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1273

Absolutely correct Carl, although I suggest a link to our official current  
bug page:


  http://lilypond.org/bug-reports



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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Phil Holmes
"Trevor Daniels"  wrote in message 
news:f867cc5a71fc42b7b9f90fbb44692...@trevorlaptop...


Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM


On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels"  wrote:


Carl wrote


Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet
released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.


Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
a version compiled from git might have existed for some
time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
do we?


We expect the Bug Squad to test on the latest development release.


OK.  I see one of the actions for a Bug Squad member
is to generate a png file demonstrating the problem.
This clearly would demonstrate whether a problem which
happened to be noticed in a git build was present in
the latest GUB release.

So I was wrong - we _do_ expect them to do this research.
Presumably they should forward the report to -dev if the
bug does not show in the latest GUB release.


The original report said "does not work with lates git Lilypond 2.13.35 but 
works on 2.13.34-1".  So my interpretation of this is that there is no bug 
on any release that most Bug Squad members could test to or generate output 
from.  So nothing for a Bug Squad member to do - it's at this point solely 
an issue for the developers.  If it appears in the released 13.35 then a bug 
report should appear on .bug and a Bug squad member will do the necessary to 
get it into the tracker.


--
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Re: MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols sometimes fails

2010-09-26 Thread Neil Puttock
On 26 September 2010 12:09, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:

> MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols seems to fail with everything
> (clef, left-edge, staff-bar, ...) except key-signature and
> time-signature

I'm afraid this is partly due to the way I fixed the bad alignment
when key signatures are present (using Item::break_visible).  I'm not
sure what we can do about it though; while it's clearly a dubious hack
to be checking break-visibility in the engraver (for Clef, it seems to
be too early), there doesn't seem to be a sane alternative unless we
defer the choice of alignment until later.

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: Issue 1274 in lilypond: convert-ly does not warn about #'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

2010-09-26 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 1274 by brownian.box: convert-ly does not warn about  
#'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1274


This is a weird one, since it shouldn't work in 2.12.3
But the IR says it should? ("3.1.57 LyricHyphen" -- 3.1.56 in the IR for  
2.12.3)


Well, great, i'm lost .-)


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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels


Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM

On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels"  
wrote:



Carl wrote

Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not 
yet

released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.


Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
a version compiled from git might have existed for some
time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
do we?


We expect the Bug Squad to test on the latest development release.


OK.  I see one of the actions for a Bug Squad member
is to generate a png file demonstrating the problem.
This clearly would demonstrate whether a problem which
happened to be noticed in a git build was present in
the latest GUB release.

So I was wrong - we _do_ expect them to do this research.
Presumably they should forward the report to -dev if the
bug does not show in the latest GUB release.

Might be worth making this clear in the CG, as at present
it's just a side effect of the actions in 7.5 Adding
issues to the tracker.

Problems with a git build are reported on -devel, with a reference 
to a

commit SHA1.


Hm. Not sure a Bug Squad member should be expected to
determine the SHA1, if a bug is reported on -bug.
Forwarding to -dev should be sufficient.


Carl


Trevor






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Re: MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols sometimes fails

2010-09-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all,

When this gets fixed, I'm happy to up my sponsorship by C$50 -- this has 
definitely turned out to be more work than it first appeared.

Thanks,
Kieren.

On 2010-Sep-26, at 08:43, Carl Sorensen wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 9/26/10 5:09 AM, "Xavier Scheuer"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jan!
>> 
>> No, I'm *not* obsessed with Tempo indications placement
>> (or maybe, am I?)...   ;-p
>> Actually this time the issue was reported on the French-speaking
>> mailing list, I'm just relaying it.
>> 
>> MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols seems to fail with everything
>> (clef, left-edge, staff-bar, ...) except key-signature and
>> time-signature.
>> 
>> This (kind of) reopens issue #684, isn't it?
> 
> No, please make a new issue.  You have a new test file.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carl
> 
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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels"  wrote:

> Carl wrote
> 
>> Comment #2 on issue 1273 by Carl.D.Sorensen: Woodwind Diagrams
>> lead to  Ghostscript error in latest git
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1273
> 
>> Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet
>> released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.
> 
> Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
> a version compiled from git might have existed for some
> time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
> do we?

We expect the Bug Squad to test on the latest development release.  This
report said the code worked properly on the latest development release
(2.13.34-1), but not in 2.13.35.  But there *isn't* a 2.13.35.  2.13.35 is
whatever I build on my machine based on latest git.  It's a moving target.

Problems with a git build are reported on -devel, with a reference to a
commit SHA1.  That way we can track it down, and hopefully get it fixed
before a development release happens.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols sometimes fails

2010-09-26 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 9/26/10 5:09 AM, "Xavier Scheuer"  wrote:

> Hi Jan!
> 
> No, I'm *not* obsessed with Tempo indications placement
> (or maybe, am I?)...   ;-p
> Actually this time the issue was reported on the French-speaking
> mailing list, I'm just relaying it.
> 
> MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols seems to fail with everything
> (clef, left-edge, staff-bar, ...) except key-signature and
> time-signature.
> 
> This (kind of) reopens issue #684, isn't it?

No, please make a new issue.  You have a new test file.

Thanks,

Carl


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MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols sometimes fails

2010-09-26 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi Jan!

No, I'm *not* obsessed with Tempo indications placement
(or maybe, am I?)...   ;-p
Actually this time the issue was reported on the French-speaking
mailing list, I'm just relaying it.

MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols seems to fail with everything
(clef, left-edge, staff-bar, ...) except key-signature and
time-signature.

This (kind of) reopens issue #684, isn't it?

Sorry to come again with that.  Many thanks for you attention

Cheers,
Xavier


\score {
  \new Staff {
\tempo "MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols"
\repeat unfold 8 c'1 \break
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(clef)
\tempo "Clef does not work"
\repeat unfold 8 c'1 \break
\key g \major
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(key-signature)
\tempo "KeySignature works (as well as TimeSignature)"
\repeat unfold 8 c'1 \break
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(left-edge)
\tempo "Left-edge does not work"
\repeat unfold 8 c'1 \break
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'break-align-symbols = #'(staff-bar)
\tempo "Staff-bar does not work"
\repeat unfold 8 c'1 \break
  }
}


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Re: Issue 1150 in lilypond: RehearsalMark at start of line should not be printed above the clef

2010-09-26 Thread lilypond


Comment #7 on issue 1150 by x.scheuer: RehearsalMark at start of line  
should not be printed above the clef

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1150

Anyway, can't we use Neil's

  RehearsalMark #'X-offset = #shift-right-at-line-begin

or

  RehearsalMark #'after-line-breaking =
#(lambda (grob)
;; apply shift
(shift-right-at-line-begin grob)
;; call default callback
(ly:side-position-interface::move-to-extremal-staff grob))

as a solution (at least temporary)?

It is indeed better than current behaviour, although there is no clear
"solid reference" or "common practice", as pointed by Reinhold's list
(BTW thank you Reinhold).

Cheers,
Xavier



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Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels

Carl wrote

Comment #2 on issue 1273 by Carl.D.Sorensen: Woodwind Diagrams 
lead to  Ghostscript error in latest git

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1273


Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet 
released,  because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.


Why not?  A bug which happened to have been noticed in
a version compiled from git might have existed for some
time.  We don't expect the Bug Squad to do this research,
do we?

Trevor




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