Re: separating music and guitar instructions

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 22 Sep 2010, 00:38 Vicente Solsona wrote:
 this doesn't work
 
 c4\3
 It does! This avoids a string number indication in standard
 notation and leads to a correct fret number in tablature. See
 Default tablatures in the Notation Reference.
 
 and this does:
 
 c\34
 This basically has the same effect but a string number indication
 is added in standard notation.
Hi!

Sorry for delay. I am still brave enough to add this to the tracker but not
sure that this issue is clear enough, sorry.

 a-ha, ok!
 
 I don't use tablatures, so I didn't realize that, sorry for my confusion.
 Then it makes sense to me.
 
 But the original issue remains though:
 
 should the following example (and the larger one in my first post)
 to be expected to work? if yes (and I'm not doing something wrong),
 then there's a bug.
 
 %
 
 music = { c4 c }
 fingers = {s4\2 s4-\rightHandFinger #2}
(Missed space after #2 causes Expecting number or string, found
#unspecified error)

 
 \score {
   \new Staff \context Voice = A \music
 \context Voice = A \fingers
  
 }
 
 %
I am affraid, if this is _a question_ (should or should not), it's still not
a valid issue report?

(I believe i will not forget about this issue, it's marked with ugly red text
on black background in my mailer,-)

Ok, let me try:

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Summary: fingering indications are not displayed if entered with no angle
 braces.
Type: Defect
Priority: Medium

music = { c4 c }
fingers = { s4\2 s4-\rightHandFinger #2 }
\score {
  \new Staff \context Voice = A \music
\context Voice = A \fingers
 
}
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How do you think -- is this correct enough? May be this should be enhancement
request (with different summary)?

Is it a valid report at all?

Excuse me, my knowlegde is weak in this area. And i feel like i have no time
to digg.

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Re: autobeaming in cadenza

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:49 Keith E OHara wrote:
 % Automatic beaming does not work through the length of a cadenza
 %
 % This issue occurs, differently in the details, in 2.12.3 and 2.13.34
 %
 \relative c'' {
 \time 4/4   % note: \time x/2 gives the desired result on 2.12.3
 \cadenzaOn
 \repeat unfold 8 {
   c8 c c c  % \bar
 }
 \cadenzaOff
 }
Sorry, why do you expect it to work? I wouldn't expect, because of the nature
(my understanding of) of cadenza...

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Issue 1279 in lilypond: autobeaming swung triplets in x/8 time

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Low

New issue 1279 by brownian.box: autobeaming swung triplets in x/8 time
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1279

Sorry, my beaming counting arithmetic is weak, so, since there is no any  
discussion in the list, posting this AS IS. With original images.


Reported by Keith E OHara,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00403.html :

% Automatic beaming does connect the c8 c16 triplet
% in time signatures that have a 1/8-note beat
%
% Time signatures 3/8 and 5/8 show this issue after
%  \set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
%
% 2.12, by contrast, misses these beams when written
%  in the corresponding 3/16 time signature
%
\version 2.13.34
\relative c'' {
  \time 6/16
  c16 c c c8 c16


  \time 2/8
  \times 2/3 {c16 c c} \times 2/3 {c8 c16}
  \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {c16 c c c8 c16}
}

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Re: autobeaming swung triplets in x/8 time

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:49 Keith E OHara wrote:
 % Automatic beaming does connect the c8 c16 triplet
 % in time signatures that have a 1/8-note beat
 %
 % Time signatures 3/8 and 5/8 show this issue after
 %  \set Timing.beamExceptions = #'()
 %
 % 2.12, by contrast, misses these beams when written
 %  in the corresponding 3/16 time signature
 %
 \version 2.13.34
 \relative c'' {
   \time 6/16
   c16 c c c8 c16
 
   \time 2/8
   \times 2/3 {c16 c c} \times 2/3 {c8 c16}
   \scaleDurations #'(2 . 3) {c16 c c c8 c16}
 }
Thanks, added this as 1279:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1279

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Issue 1280 in lilypond: \displayMusic does not properly quote cons lilypond properties

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Defect Priority-Medium

New issue 1280 by brownian.box: \displayMusic does not properly quote cons  
lilypond properties

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1280

Reported by Jeff Epstein,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00317.html :

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I'm trying to get the \displayMusic for the following:

   c1^\markup {
  \caps \center-align
  \override #'(box-padding . 0.5)
  \box V. S.}

It results, partially, in this:

 (markup
   #:line
   (#:caps
(#:center-align
 (#:override (box-padding . 0.5) (#:box V. S.

Note that

(box-padding . 0.5)

should be

'(box-padding . 0.5)


I believe this is a bug.

Thank you. Let me know if there's anything else I can do.

PS. Thanks to Carl Sorensen for helping me discover this.
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Just for the record.


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Re: \displayMusic does not properly quote cons lilypond properties

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Sun 26 Sep 2010, 01:33 Neil Puttock wrote:
 On 22 September 2010 11:18, Jeff Epstein
 aliteralmind-lilyp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Note that
 
  (box-padding . 0.5)
 
  should be
 
  '(box-padding . 0.5)
 
 
  I believe this is a bug.
 
 Thanks for the report.  This will be fixed in 2.13.35.
Thaks to both of you!

Just for the record:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1280

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Re: lilypond-book safe mode

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 22 Sep 2010, 07:52 Julien Rioux wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 This is a feature request for a safe mode for lilypond-book.
Thanks, added as 1281:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1281


 One can run lilypond with the -dsafe switch to avoid a security risk
 when compiling .ly files including evil scheme code. There is no
 equivalent switch for lilypond-book, and using --process leads to
 errors.
 
 I'll post below a simple example.
 
 Thanks,
 Julien
 
 ---
 $ cat docu.lytex
 \documentclass{article}
 \begin{document}
 \begin{lilypond}
 {c' d' e'}
 \end{lilypond}
 \end{document}
 
 $ lilypond-book --process=lilypond -dsafe -dbackend=eps docu.lytex
 lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.3
 Reading docu.lytex...
 Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live
 2009/Debian)
  restricted \write18 enabled.
 entering extended mode
 (/tmp/tmpgwVO1K.tex
 LaTeX2e 2009/09/24
 Babel v3.8l and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax,
 dumylang, noh
 yphenation, french, basque, ngerman, german, german-x-2009-06-19,
 ngerman-x-200
 9-06-19, ukenglish, loaded.
 
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
 Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
 (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
 No file tmpgwVO1K.aux.
 textwidth=345.0pt
 columnsep=10.0pt
 (./tmpgwVO1K.aux) )
 No pages of output.
 Transcript written on tmpgwVO1K.log.
 Dissecting...
 Writing snippets...
 Processing...
 Running lilypond...GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
 Processing `/scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly'
 Parsing...
 /scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly:4:1: error: GUILE
 signaled an error for the expression beginning here
 #
  (ly:add-file-name-alist '((d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly . docu.lytex)
 Unbound variable: ly:add-file-name-alist
 /scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly:0: warning: no
 \version statement found, please add
 
 \version 2.12.3
 
 for future compatibility
 Processing `/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly'
 Parsing...
 /scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:3:9: error: include files
 are not allowed in safe mode
 \include
  lilypond-book-preamble.ly
 /scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:13:3: error: GUILE
 signaled an error for the expression beginning here
   #
(define dump-extents #t)
 Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f)
 (line . 40) (column . 7) (filename .
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
 /scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:17:22: error: GUILE
 signaled an error for the expression beginning here
   force-assignment = #
   
 Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f)
 (line . 40) (column . 7) (filename .
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
 /scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:18:16: error: GUILE
 signaled an error for the expression beginning here
   line-width = #
 (- line-width (* mm  3.00))
 Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f)
 (line . 40) (column . 7) (filename .
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
 /scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:0: warning: no \version
 statement found, please add
 
 \version 2.12.3
 
 for future compatibility
 Interpreting music...
 Preprocessing graphical
 objects.../usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/scm/titling.scm:9:34: In
 procedure ly:paper-get-number in expression (ly:paper-get-number
 layout (quote line-width)):
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/scm/titling.scm:9:34: Wrong type
 (expecting real number): #unspecified
 command failed: lilypond -dsafe -dbackend=eps -I
 /scratch/examples/Test --formats=eps  -deps-box-padding=3.00
 -dread-file-list -dno-strip-output-dir
 /scratch/examples/Test/snippet-names--1168004333.ly
 Child returned 1
 
 
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Issue 1281 in lilypond: enhancement: lilypond-book safe mode

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Enhancement Priority-Medium

New issue 1281 by brownian.box: enhancement: lilypond-book safe mode
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1281

Reported by Julien Rioux,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00318.html :

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Dear list,


This is a feature request for a safe mode for lilypond-book.


One can run lilypond with the -dsafe switch to avoid a security risk when  
compiling .ly files including evil scheme code. There is no equivalent  
switch for lilypond-book, and using --process leads to errors.


I'll post below a simple example.


Thanks,
Julien


---
$ cat docu.lytex
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
\begin{lilypond}
{c' d' e'}
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}


$ lilypond-book --process=lilypond -dsafe -dbackend=eps docu.lytex
lilypond-book (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.3
Reading docu.lytex...
Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live  
2009/Debian)

restricted \write18 enabled.
entering extended mode
(/tmp/tmpgwVO1K.tex
LaTeX2e 2009/09/24
Babel v3.8l and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang,  
noh
yphenation, french, basque, ngerman, german, german-x-2009-06-19,  
ngerman-x-200

9-06-19, ukenglish, loaded.

(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
No file tmpgwVO1K.aux.
textwidth=345.0pt
columnsep=10.0pt
(./tmpgwVO1K.aux) )
No pages of output.
Transcript written on tmpgwVO1K.log.
Dissecting...
Writing snippets...
Processing...
Running lilypond...GNU LilyPond 2.12.3
Processing `/scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly'
Parsing...
/scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly:4:1: error: GUILE  
signaled an error for the expression beginning here

#
(ly:add-file-name-alist '((d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly . docu.lytex)
Unbound variable: ly:add-file-name-alist
/scratch/examples/Test/snippet-map--1168004333.ly:0: warning: no \version  
statement found, please add


\version 2.12.3


for future compatibility
Processing `/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly'
Parsing...
/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:3:9: error: include files are  
not allowed in safe mode

\include
lilypond-book-preamble.ly
/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:13:3: error: GUILE signaled an  
error for the expression beginning here

#
(define dump-extents #t)
Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f) (line .  
40) (column . 7)  
(filename . /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:17:22: error: GUILE signaled an  
error for the expression beginning here

force-assignment = #

Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f) (line .  
40) (column . 7)  
(filename . /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:18:16: error: GUILE signaled an  
error for the expression beginning here

line-width = #
(- line-width (* mm 3.00))
Wrong type argument in position 1: #srcprops ((breakpoint . #f) (line .  
40) (column . 7)  
(filename . /usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/ly/music-functions-init.ly))
/scratch/examples/Test/d6/lily-79fd5fcc.ly:0: warning: no \version  
statement found, please add


\version 2.12.3


for future compatibility
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical  
objects.../usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/scm/titling.scm:9:34: In procedure  
ly:paper-get-number in expression (ly:paper-get-number layout (quote  
line-width)):
/usr/share/lilypond/2.12.3/scm/titling.scm:9:34: Wrong type (expecting real  
number): #unspecified
command failed: lilypond -dsafe -dbackend=eps -I /scratch/examples/Test  
--formats=eps -deps-box-padding=3.00 -dread-file-list  
-dno-strip-output-dir /scratch/examples/Test/snippet-names--1168004333.ly

Child returned 1
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Issue 1282 in lilypond: the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Documentation Priority-Medium

New issue 1282 by brownian.box: the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2  
Changing spacing is inaccurate

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

Reported by Vicente Solsona,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00295.html :

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hello,


the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate
afaik:


-8-


e4 c g\f c
\override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'( -2.2 . 2.0)
e4 c g\f c


-8-


#'extra-offset does *not* affect vertical nor horizontal spacing, so it
does not save vertical space...
[...]

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Re: tiny correction to NR

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Mon 20 Sep 2010, 19:12 Vicente Solsona wrote:
 hello,
 
 the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate
 afaik:
Since it's still inaccurate,
added as 1282:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

Thank you!

 -8-
 
 e4 c g\f c
 \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'( -2.2 . 2.0)
 e4 c g\f c
 
 -8-
 
 #'extra-offset does *not* affect vertical nor horizontal spacing, so it
 does not save vertical space. we have to disable the collision first so
 the dynamics don't take vertical space and then move it for aesthetical
 purposes, so the valid example should be (after a native english revision):
 
 -8-
 
 e4 c g\f c
 \override DynamicLineSpanner #'outside-staff-priority = ##f % make
 dynamics not to take vertical space
 \override DynamicText #'extra-offset = #'(-2.2 . 2.2) % place the
 dynamics manually to improve appearance
 e4 c g\f c
 
 -8-
 
 greetings,
 
 Vicente
 
 side note: why \once doesn't work in the previous example (in 2.12.3)?

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Re: Issue 1274 in lilypond: convert-ly does not warn about #'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 1274 by brownian.box: convert-ly does not warn about  
#'dash-period = #-1 for LyricHyphen

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1274

Ok then .)

Two questions:
1. After Neil's last comment (#4) -- shouldn't summary be changed? How?-)
2. What about manuals? There are other places with misleading information  
(for instance: 3.1.57 LyricHyphen says that minimum-distance is  
for Minimum distance between rest and notes or beam.), So, is it possible  
to correct those sentences for dash-period and minimum-distance? If yes,  
this, i guess, should be reported as issue? And, since there are more then  
one place, i guess, should separate issue be added for each?


Thanks.


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(no subject)

2010-09-29 Thread bryanprevite
http://pawojuy.t35.com/


  

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Re: Issue 1026 in lilypond: Documentation: adapting Lyrics when using \repeatTie

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: 2.13.35

Comment #7 on issue 1026 by tdanielsmusic: Documentation: adapting Lyrics  
when using \repeatTie

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1026

Documentation for using \alternative in repeats with lyrics has been added  
to NR 2.1 Vocal music/Techniques specific to lyrics/Lyrics and repeats in  
git, and it covers this point.


For the record, the issue is not straightforward, as the example in comment  
5 illustrates.  In order to get the volta brackets in music and lyrics to  
line up correctly it is necessary to disable the automatic detection of a  
melisma over a tied note and insert manual skips in both sections (AFAICS):


\relative c' {
  \repeat volta 2 {
\set melismaBusyProperties = #'()
c d e f~ |
  }
  \alternative {
{ f a b c }
{ f, \repeatTie g a c }
\unset melismaBusyProperties
  }
}

\addlyrics {
  \repeat volta 2 {
c d e f
  }
  \alternative {
{ _ a b c }
{ _ g a c }
  }
}

This may be a bug, or indicate a desirable enhancement.  If so, a separate  
issue should be raised.


Trevor


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Re: autobeaming in cadenza

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 29 Sep 2010, 02:35 Keith E OHara wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:13:44 -0700, Dmytro O. Redchuk 
 brownian@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, why do you expect it to work? I wouldn't expect, because of the nature
 (my understanding of) of cadenza...
 
 
 Dmytro,
Very good point.
 
 Reasons to expect auto-beaming to work:
 
 Even though a cadenza has a free rhythm and is not divided into bars, it 
 usually has a rhythmic structure, and is written using the usual conventions 
 of music with a beat.  Beethoven's 'emperor' concerto (small image attached) 
 opens with a cadenza, but is written using tuplets and beams to show how the 
 notes fit in the underlying pulse.  Most cadenzas are simpler (Chopin image 
 attached).
 
 The examples for \cadenzaOn in NR 1.2.3 show notes that are autobeamed, which 
 implies that users can expect autobeaming to work.
 
 Autobeaming _tries_ to work: if the notes are beam-able, at least some of 
 them are auto-beamed according to the time signature in effect before 
 \cadenzaOn.
 
 
 Reasons we should not expect auto-beaming to work:
No, i can agree that autobeaming should (or would be great to) work in
cadenzas; but i can not imagine how to describe expected behavior.

_How_ this should work?

This can be a valid issue report (most probably enhancement/feature request);
please, could you modify your initial minimal example -- include some
explicit autobeaming rule[1] and describe what you expected to have.
(I hardly can imagine which autobeaming defaults should be in cadenzas.)

Thanks!

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 1. Yes, i can see that all notes in your example are beamed together, but i
don't know what should be instead, to be precise .(

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Re: Issue 1280 in lilypond: \displayMusic does not properly quote cons lilypond properties

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Owner: n.puttock
Labels: fixed_2_13_35

Comment #1 on issue 1280 by Carl.D.Sorensen: \displayMusic does not  
properly quote cons lilypond properties

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1280

Fixed with commit 1af002a26299daf2881c28b3d8366a354cffa5da


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Re: separating music and guitar instructions

2010-09-29 Thread Vicente Solsona

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:11:45 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk
brownian@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for delay. I am still brave enough to add this to the tracker  
but not

sure that this issue is clear enough, sorry.


Dmytro,

many thanks for taking the time to keep this alive :)

I am affraid, if this is _a question_ (should or should not), it's  
still not

a valid issue report?


I definitely think it is, but we are mixing two things:

1) fingering indications are not displayed in *standard notation* if
 entered with no angle braces, but they are displayed in *tablature*.

 this is a Lilypond *feature*. Some users seem to be fine with it
 (myself included) while some other may have some objections: Xavier
 Scheuer finds it annoying, and David Kastrup observed:

 Would seem like a case for a context variable rather than hardwired

 We can discuss whether this is a real issue or it is fine as it is  
now.

 For me, it's not so important to raise a real issue. I can live with
 this feature as it is now (but as Patrick Schmidt pointed, then the
 Notation Manual must should be adjusted, but let's forget this for  
now,

 I can make a proper issue request later).

2) what I'm actually reporting seems really a *bug* to me. Please let me
 reformulate it with a more complete example:

%-8
Summary: some fingering indications and fingering related commands are not
displayed
   when entered in a separate expression
Type: Defect
Priority: Medium

\version 2.12.3

music = \relative c'' {c4 c c c c \stemUp c}

fingerings = {
s4-1% it's displayed
s4\2% it's not displayed
s4-\rightHandFinger #2  % it's not displayed
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(down) % doesn't work
s4-2

\override Fingering #'staff-padding = #'() % *does* work
s4-3
\override Fingering #'add-stem-support = ##f % doesn't work
s4-1
}

\score {
  
  \new Staff \context Voice = A \music
  \context Voice = A \fingerings
  
}
%-8

This is the real issue report I'd want to make.

I'm not a native english, and sometimes I express myself awfully. My
apologies for this. Please let me know if I can make the report clearer.

Many thanks again.

Greetings,

Vicente


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Re: Issue 1282 in lilypond: the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #1 on issue 1282 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: the example in the third  
entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

Patch submitted to Graham.


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Re: separating music and guitar instructions

2010-09-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 29 Sep 2010, 13:58 Vicente Solsona wrote:
 I definitely think it is, but we are mixing two things:
 
 1) fingering indications are not displayed in *standard notation* if
  entered with no angle braces, but they are displayed in *tablature*.
 
  this is a Lilypond *feature*. Some users seem to be fine with it
  (myself included) while some other may have some objections: Xavier
  Scheuer finds it annoying, and David Kastrup observed:
 
  Would seem like a case for a context variable rather than hardwired
 
  We can discuss whether this is a real issue or it is fine as it
 is now.
  For me, it's not so important to raise a real issue. I can live with
  this feature as it is now (but as Patrick Schmidt pointed, then the
  Notation Manual must should be adjusted, but let's forget this
 for now,
  I can make a proper issue request later).
 
 2) what I'm actually reporting seems really a *bug* to me. Please let me
  reformulate it with a more complete example:
The latter added as is as 1283:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1283

Regarding the former -- let's discuss it later?-) Please *start a new thread*
and post an issue request :-)

Thank you!

-- 
  Dmytro O. Redchuk
  Bug Squad

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Re: Issue 1282 in lilypond: the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 1282 by vsolsona: the example in the third entry of  
NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

Please note that after my exchange with James Lowe and Graham my suggestion  
for the definitive example is (*):


-8

e4 c g\f c
e4 c g-\tweak #'X-offset #-2.7 -\tweak #'Y-offset #2.5 \f c

-8

(*) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00309.html

many thanks!!


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Re: tiny correction to NR

2010-09-29 Thread Vicente Solsona
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:33:12 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk  
brownian@gmail.com wrote:

added as 1282:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282


thanks! I've added a comment in the issue with an update as per:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00309.html

I hope I have proceeded correctly.

greetings,

Vicente


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Re: Issue 1026 in lilypond: Documentation: adapting Lyrics when using \repeatTie

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -2.13.35 fixed_2_13_35

Comment #8 on issue 1026 by PhilEHolmes: Documentation: adapting Lyrics  
when using \repeatTie

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1026

(No comment was entered for this change.)


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Re: Issue 506, or something similar, can still occur

2010-09-29 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Keith E OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote:

 % Something like issue 506 can still be observed.
 %
 % Relative to the original report for issue 506,
 % remove the slur, and add an accent with a
 % forced direction. The beam is badly placed.
 %
 % I did *not* find this during normal use, but
 % while testing a workaround for a different bug.
 % Small changes avoid the bug.  In this example, either
 % move the accent, or put the slur back in.
 % Maybe just file this under 506, so we know there
 % are limits to that fix?

 \version 2.12.3
 % version 2.13.33 gives visibly the same output

 \paper { ragged-right = ##t }
 \new PianoStaff 
   \new Staff = rh { s1 }
   \new Staff = lh \relative c {
 \clef bass
 %
 % LilyPond reports 'programming error: Grob direction
 % requested while calculation in progress.'
 % Inserting
 %  \stemDown
 % removes this error report, but still produces
 % a badly-placed beam, very similar to original 506.
 %
 e16-\markup{a}_ b'
 \change Staff = rh
 g' b
   }
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 Bug List moderator : 506 is closed. Should this be set up as a new issue,
or can the number 506 be reinstated?

Ralph
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(no subject)

2010-09-29 Thread bryanprevite
http://mercuryinformatica.it/94416.html


  

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Re: Issue 506, or something similar, can still occur

2010-09-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:48:26PM -0400, Ralph Palmer wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Keith E OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote:
 
  Bug List moderator : 506 is closed. Should this be set up as a new issue,
 or can the number 506 be reinstated?

No.  Please add a new issue, but mention 506 in the description.

Once an issue has been Verified, the **only** thing that should be
done is un-verify it if you still see the same bug, with exactly
the same input, with exactly the version number that it was
claimed to be fixed in.  I don't think it's worth download version
2.11.45 to re-test 506, so just add a new issue.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham

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Re: autobeaming in cadenza

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Polesky
Carl Sorensen wrote:
 I think that autobeaming in cadenzas should beam according
 to baseMoment, i.e. all beats should be grouped together
 in baseMoment units.

The very concept of beats within a cadenza goes against the
whole idea of a cadenza in the first place.  I think a
better system would be to break beams only when the note
duration changes, and *not* after a dotted note.  But
there's simply no algorithm that will work in most cases.
The user will almost always need to do some manual beams.

One possibility to ease some of the burden for the user
would be to set up beaming styles, not unlike the
accidental styles that we currently have.  So we could have
\groupBeats and \groupDurations, for example.

- Mark


  

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Re: autobeaming in cadenza

2010-09-29 Thread Carl Sorensen



On 9/29/10 11:35 AM, Mark Polesky markpole...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Carl Sorensen wrote:
 I think that autobeaming in cadenzas should beam according
 to baseMoment, i.e. all beats should be grouped together
 in baseMoment units.
 
 The very concept of beats within a cadenza goes against the
 whole idea of a cadenza in the first place.  I think a
 better system would be to break beams only when the note
 duration changes, and *not* after a dotted note.  But
 there's simply no algorithm that will work in most cases.
 The user will almost always need to do some manual beams.
 
 One possibility to ease some of the burden for the user
 would be to set up beaming styles, not unlike the
 accidental styles that we currently have.  So we could have
 \groupBeats and \groupDurations, for example.

\groupBeats would require a dramatically different autobeaming algorithm.

Perhaps the best answer is to have \candezaOn turn off autbeaming.  Since
the cadenza is in free time, perhaps the composer should be responsible for
giving whatever metric hints are desired with the beam by indicating the
beaming manually.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: autobeaming in cadenza

2010-09-29 Thread Keith E OHara

On 9/29/10 4:18 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed 29 Sep 2010, 02:35 Keith E OHara wrote:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:13:44 -0700, Dmytro O. Redchuk
brownian@gmail.com wrote:


Sorry, why do you expect it to work?
[ ... ]


The examples for \cadenzaOn in NR 1.2.3 show notes that are autobeamed, which
implies that users can expect autobeaming to work.

Autobeaming _tries_ to work: if the notes are beam-able, at least some of
them are auto-beamed according to the time signature in effect before
\cadenzaOn.

Reasons we should not expect auto-beaming to work:


No, i can agree that autobeaming should (or would be great to) work in
cadenzas; but i can not imagine how to describe expected behavior.

_How_ this should work?

This can be a valid issue report (most probably enhancement/feature request);



On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:46:46 -0700, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

I think that autobeaming in cadenzas should beam according to baseMoment,
i.e. all beats should be grouped together in baseMoment units.



Yes, this could be a simple feature request, but I do not request this feature.

Looking at how \cadenzaOn is used in practice (by google \cadenzaOn 
site:www.mutopiaproject.org) it seems that manual beams (or using \bar 
instead of \cadenzaOn) are clean solutions.

Also, \cadenzaOn is a simple LilyPond definition in property-init.ly, so users 
like me can reasonably adapt that definition (probably implementing the rule 
that Carl suggested) and submit a feature _suggestion_ if our own definition 
works well.

The reason I raised this issue is that while creating scores I _thought_ 
autobeaming worked in cadenzas (along the lines Carl suggests) and version 
2.12.3 did so for the length of a couple cadenzas.  LilyPond's irregular 
behavior could frustrate users, but that can be solved with:
@knownissues Automatic beaming rules are unlikely to produce the desired beams 
in cadenzas longer than one or two beats, so it is best to specify beams 
manually with @code{[} and @code{]}.
--
Keith


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Re: Issue 1240 in lilypond: Music overflows page: #'((space . N) (stretchability . 0)) and nothing more with spacings

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Priority-Medium Priority-Critical

Comment #6 on issue 1240 by percival.music.ca: Music overflows page:  
#'((space . N) (stretchability . 0)) and nothing more with spacings

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1240

Thanks for the example, Keith!  I'm bumping this up to Critical.


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\revertTimeSignatureSettings broken?

2010-09-29 Thread Mark Polesky
In NR 1.2.3 Displaying rhythms - Time signature, the
\revertTimeSignatureSettings example (the last one before
the snippets) doesn't do what I'd expect from the text:

http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html#time-signature
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/notation/rhythms.itely#l1107

- Mark


  

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Re: Issue 1282 in lilypond: the example in the third entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #3 on issue 1282 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: the example in the third  
entry of NR 4.6.2 Changing spacing is inaccurate

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

Patch pushed

Commit 3685a38706539efeaf642de0f435c5ffc43dad55

James


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RE: tiny correction to NR

2010-09-29 Thread James Lowe
Patch Pushed.

Commit: 3685a38706539efeaf642de0f435c5ffc43dad55

Tracker updated.

Thanks Vincente.

James


-Original Message-
From: bug-lilypond-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of Vicente 
Solsona
Sent: Wed 29/09/2010 16:47
To: Dmytro O. Redchuk
Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tiny correction to NR
 
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:33:12 +0200, Dmytro O. Redchuk  
brownian@gmail.com wrote:
 added as 1282:
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1282

thanks! I've added a comment in the issue with an update as per:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00309.html

I hope I have proceeded correctly.

greetings,

Vicente


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(no subject)

2010-09-29 Thread bryanprevite
http://agilium.it/24105.html


  

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Re: Issue 1269 in lilypond: Doc: using #'non-break-align-symbols = #'() to align MetronomeMark should be documented

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 1269 by pkx1...@hotmail.com: Doc: using  
#'non-break-align-symbols = #'() to align MetronomeMark should be documented

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1269

So is this invalid? I see this is mentioned on the front page of

http://lilypond.org/index.html

If not exactly what is needed to be documented?


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Re: Issue 687 in lilypond: Enhancement: inequal MIDI quantization of equal durations (swing, rubato)

2010-09-29 Thread lilypond


Comment #27 on issue 687 by chicagogrooves: Enhancement: inequal MIDI  
quantization of equal durations (swing, rubato)

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=687

adam.spiers: Great video on a set of 'parameters' of swing which made it  
into Ableton Live 8. Not saying its the best model for lilypond, but it  
certainly does more than my current implementation provides for:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcDaWRXlvIE



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lilypond-book with LaTex: quote / quotation - environment

2010-09-29 Thread ncdallmann
Hello,

I use Lilypond-Book with LaTex and have following suggestion concerning the
'quote'-%option:

I always get a bad layout using the quote option, because it uses the
'quotation' environment in LaTex, which implies an indention of the first line
in LaTex. This causes in all my documents and in a 'clean' example, the first
line of my lilypond-examples to be indented without adjusting the line-length.
But Lilypond should set the indentation, not LaTex. So I think using
\begin{quotation} ... \end{quotation} is a bad choice. In my opinion the quote
environment should use \begin{quote} ... \end{quote}.

So I decided for my personal setup to change the lines 754-756 of the
lilypond-book-script, version 2.12.3 in Ubuntu Lucid Lynx, (which is now
lilypond-2.13.35/python/book_latex.py line 124-126 in the dev version 2.13.35)  

from:

QUOTE: r'''\begin{quotation}
%(str)s
\end{quotation}''',

into:
QUOTE: r'''\begin{quote}
%(str)s
\end{quote}''',

This works for me and I hope this can be useful for you, too.

Example:

\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
\begin{document}
\begin[quote]{lilypond}
{
c'4 d' e' f' 
g' a' b' c'' 
d'' e'' f'' g''
a'' b'' c'''2
c'''4 b'' a'' g''
f'' e'' d'' c''
b' a' g' f'
e' d' c'2
}
\end{lilypond}
\end{document}


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