Re: Issue 2408 in lilypond: Inconsistent automatic beaming when using multiple tuplets next to each other

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Started
Owner: carl.d.s...@gmail.com

Comment #1 on issue 2408 by carl.d.s...@gmail.com: Inconsistent automatic  
beaming when using multiple tuplets next to each other

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2408

Have a patch just about ready to go.


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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :
> On 16 March 2012 17:44, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>>
>> Thank you. I have tried the \hideNotes trick but does not work because
>> a beam is only printed it the initial note is not hidden.
>
> The code I would have used (maybe a bit tricky).

Thank you! You have been credited by this trick.

http://repo.or.cz/w/lilypond-ejercicios.git/commitdiff/03ec0209539776b1b45bd758a5d09b6b6c0480ef
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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Fixed_2_13_34 Fixed_2_15_34

Comment #10 on issue 2399 by julien.r...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

hehe thanks I hard-coded that one in my head


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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #9 on issue 2399 by ma...@gregoriana.sk: website links to 2.13 docs  
for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

Typo? Fixed_2_13_34


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Re: Issue 2230 in lilypond: add svg regtests

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #10 on issue 2230 by julien.r...@gmail.com: add svg regtests
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2230

The problem I have is that one small change in coordinates leads to a  
full-line diff. Changes to ID could easily get lost. So I need to either  
filter or weight the different types of changes in the file.



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Re: Issue 1004 in lilypond: more thought needed for website integration

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 1004 by julien.r...@gmail.com: more thought needed for  
website integration

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1004

Website integration is not perfect, but we no longer have hard-coded  
version strings in lilypond-texi2html.init after the fix to issue 2399



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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Owner: julien.r...@gmail.com
Labels: Fixed_2_13_34

Comment #8 on issue 2399 by julien.r...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

pushed to staging 70adadcf60fa2571d3148115af5d7e96d80d57a5
please update your trusted dir with lilypond-texi2html.init


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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #7 on issue 2399 by julien.r...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

Issue 2079 has been merged into this issue.


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Re: Issue 2079 in lilypond: website links to 2.13

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Duplicate
Mergedinto: 2399

Comment #3 on issue 2079 by julien.r...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2079

that suggestion is issue 2212


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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #6 on issue 2399 by gra...@percival-music.ca: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

substitution is fine.  Please push directly to staging.


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Re: Issue 2230 in lilypond: add svg regtests

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #9 on issue 2230 by m...@apollinemike.com: add svg regtests
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2230

I vote for only textual comparison.


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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #5 on issue 2399 by pkx1...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13 docs  
for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

Julien,

There was talk in one of the current items open to use 'dev' and 'stable'  
instead of explicit numbers and link the documents that way.


See issue 2079 and issue 2212


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Re: Issue 2230 in lilypond: add svg regtests

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #8 on issue 2230 by julien.r...@gmail.com: add svg regtests
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2230

What exactly is needed from svg regtests? Do we want only textual  
comparison of the generated svg files or also png output comparison?



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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #4 on issue 2399 by julien.r...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

lilypond-texi2html.init line 1427:
# TODO: very yucky, but will be fixed in issue 1004
if ($web_manual) {
  my $only_web = $ENV{ONLY_WEB};
  if ($only_web) {
$href = "../../doc/v2.13/Documentation/web/".$href;
  }
}

do we want just a substitution at every release or a proper fix?


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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 March 2012 17:44, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>
> Thank you. I have tried the \hideNotes trick but does not work because
> a beam is only printed it the initial note is not hidden.

The code I would have used (maybe a bit tricky).

 Snippet

\version "2.15.30"

\new Staff {
  \time 2/4
  <<
\new Voice {
  \relative g'' {
\voiceOne
s4 g16( f e d |
\stemDown
\once \override Flag #'style = #'no-flag
c'16-|) s16*3
  }
}
\new Voice {
  \relative g' {
\stemDown
s4 g4 |
c16( d bis c)
  }
}
  >>
}

 End of snippet

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :
> On 16 March 2012 17:30, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>>
>> This is not an upright slur from the lowest note, this is a 'downside' slur
>
> Right, I did not consider this case.
> Nice request, then.
>
>> See attached again. How do you do that?
>
> Right now I would use two voices.  ;-P

Thank you. I have tried the \hideNotes trick but does not work because
a beam is only printed it the initial note is not hidden.

See

\version "2.15.30"
\new Staff {
  <<
\new Voice
\relative f {
  \voiceOne 16 % here \voiceTwo is even worse
}
\new Voice
\relative f {
  \voiceTwo %\hideNotes   %this removes beam!
  c''16[ ^(
  \unHideNotes d b c] )
}
  >>
}

%END

> But with your "be able to start a slur from a specific note of a chord"
> it would be easier, of course.


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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 March 2012 17:30, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>
> This is not an upright slur from the lowest note, this is a 'downside' slur

Right, I did not consider this case.
Nice request, then.

> See attached again. How do you do that?

Right now I would use two voices.  ;-P
But with your "be able to start a slur from a specific note of a chord"
it would be easier, of course.

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :
> For a slur to start from the lowest note
>  _(

This is not an upright slur from the lowest note, this is a 'downside' slur

> What would you expect —as graphical output— for a slur starting on
> a note *in the middle of a chord*?  I cannot represent how it would
> look like and I cannot remember having seen such thing (in "normal
> chords I mean, this is different from a polyphonic passage)?
>   ??

See attached again. How do you do that?

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 March 2012 16:51, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>
> Also, I had put my hopes in this variant:
>
> (snip)
>
> %END
>
> But not.

Might be considered as an issue.
But IMHO issue #1316 is by far more confusing for lambda users:
I mean, I replied to dozens of e-mail from users on the French (but
not only) user mailing list who did not understand why slurs,
hairpins, spanners, lyrics do not work when going from inside a
<< \\ >> construct to outside of it (and vice-versa).
And I think solving issue #1316 could "solve" your situation as well.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1316

Cheers,
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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Colin Hall
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 04:47:01PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote:
> 2012/3/16 Francisco Vila :
> > 2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :
> >
> >> Simply moving the "Slur_engraver" from Voice level to Staff level does
> >> what you want, IIUC.
> >
> > Thank you! That's what I needed. I'm going to try the other example.
> > If that's so easily doable, please ignore my request.
> 
> Well I'd change the title to "be able to start a slur from a specific
> note of a chord". This gives a warning and does not printa a slur. For
> cases like this, maybe still the named slurs have any sense.
> 
> \version "2.15.30"
> \new Staff {
>   \new Voice \relative f {
> 16  d, b c )
>   }
> }
> 

There is some documentation here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/expressive-marks#creating-slurs-across-voices

Is that what you require?

Cheers,
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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 March 2012 16:47, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>
> Well I'd change the title to "be able to start a slur from a specific
> note of a chord". This gives a warning and does not printa a slur. For
> cases like this, maybe still the named slurs have any sense.
>
> \version "2.15.30"
> \new Staff {
>  \new Voice \relative f {
>16  d, b c )
>  }
> }

To have a slur from the highest note of the chord use
  ^(

For a slur to start from the lowest note
  _(

What would you expect —as graphical output— for a slur starting on
a note *in the middle of a chord*?  I cannot represent how it would
look like and I cannot remember having seen such thing (in "normal
chords I mean, this is different from a polyphonic passage)?
   ??

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Xavier

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Francisco Vila :
> Well I'd change the title to "be able to start a slur from a specific
> note of a chord". This gives a warning and does not printa a slur. For
> cases like this, maybe still the named slurs have any sense.
>
> \version "2.15.30"
> \new Staff {
>  \new Voice \relative f {
>    16  d, b c )
>  }
> }

Also, I had put my hopes in this variant:

\version "2.15.30"
\new Staff {
  \new Voice \relative f {
<<{c'''16 } \\ {c,16( } >>
d, b c )
  }
}

\layout {
  \context {
\Voice
\remove "Slur_engraver"
\remove "Slur_performer"
  }
  \context {
\Staff
\consists "Slur_engraver"
\consists "Slur_performer"
  }
}


%END

But not.
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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Francisco Vila :
> 2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :
>
>> Simply moving the "Slur_engraver" from Voice level to Staff level does
>> what you want, IIUC.
>
> Thank you! That's what I needed. I'm going to try the other example.
> If that's so easily doable, please ignore my request.

Well I'd change the title to "be able to start a slur from a specific
note of a chord". This gives a warning and does not printa a slur. For
cases like this, maybe still the named slurs have any sense.

\version "2.15.30"
\new Staff {
  \new Voice \relative f {
16  d, b c )
  }
}



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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Xavier Scheuer :

> Simply moving the "Slur_engraver" from Voice level to Staff level does
> what you want, IIUC.

Thank you! That's what I needed. I'm going to try the other example.
If that's so easily doable, please ignore my request.

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 16 March 2012 13:51, Francisco Vila  wrote:
>
> I attach two. Op25-n3 is more obvious. Its code (w/o slur) would be
> something like
>
> \version "2.15.30"
> \new Staff \relative f {
>  <<
>\new Voice { \voiceOne d''16 c8. g16 f8. }
>\new Voice { \voiceTwo f8[ f'] c,[ c'] }
>  >>
> }
>
>
> A comfortable syntax would be \startSlur #name ... \endSlur #name like in
>
>  <<
>\new Voice { \voiceOne d''16 \startSlur #A  c8. }
>\new Voice { \voiceTwo f,8[ f']  \endSlur #A }
>  >>
>
> A #name would be reusable if the slur has ended in a previous column.
> Otherwise, new names everywhere would be needed.

Hi Francisco,

Simply moving the "Slur_engraver" from Voice level to Staff level does
what you want, IIUC.

 Snippet

\version "2.15.33"

\score {
  \new Staff {
\time 2/4
<<
  \new Voice {
\relative c'' {
  \voiceOne
  d16( c8. a16( g8.
}
  }
  \new Voice {
\relative c'' {
  \voiceTwo
  g8 g') c,,8 c'8)
}
  }
>>
  }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Voice
  \remove "Slur_engraver"
  \remove "Slur_performer"
}
\context {
  \Staff
  \consists "Slur_engraver"
  \consists "Slur_performer"
}
  }
}

 End of snippet

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Xavier

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/16 Colin Hall :
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:06:50AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am typesetting some Chopin music. Music from this period uses slurs
>> between different voices all the time. I'd like to file an enhancement
>> request for this, if possible. Thanks.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I think it is pretty clear what you are 
> requesting, and I agree that it is not supported now.
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as-curves#slurs
>
> To complete your feature request could you supply some suggestions for 
> suitable input syntax? A sample of lilypond source for some Chopin that is 
> complete except for the cross-voice slurs might be a good place to start.
>
> Also, so that this request can stand alone, could you send an image showing 
> an example of slurs between different voices?

I attach two. Op25-n3 is more obvious. Its code (w/o slur) would be
something like

\version "2.15.30"
\new Staff \relative f {
  <<
\new Voice { \voiceOne d''16 c8. g16 f8. }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo f8[ f'] c,[ c'] }
  >>
}


A comfortable syntax would be \startSlur #name ... \endSlur #name like in

  <<
\new Voice { \voiceOne d''16 \startSlur #A  c8. }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo f,8[ f']  \endSlur #A }
  >>

A #name would be reusable if the slur has ended in a previous column.
Otherwise, new names everywhere would be needed.

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Re: Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Colin Hall

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:06:50AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote:
> Hello,
> I am typesetting some Chopin music. Music from this period uses slurs
> between different voices all the time. I'd like to file an enhancement
> request for this, if possible. Thanks.

Thanks for the suggestion. I think it is pretty clear what you are requesting, 
and I agree that it is not supported now.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as-curves#slurs

To complete your feature request could you supply some suggestions for suitable 
input syntax? A sample of lilypond source for some Chopin that is complete 
except for the cross-voice slurs might be a good place to start.

Also, so that this request can stand alone, could you send an image showing an 
example of slurs between different voices?

Cheers,
Colin.

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Slurs between different voices

2012-03-16 Thread Francisco Vila
Hello,
I am typesetting some Chopin music. Music from this period uses slurs
between different voices all the time. I'd like to file an enhancement
request for this, if possible. Thanks.

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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Labels: -Type-Documentation Type-Critical

Comment #3 on issue 2399 by gra...@percival-music.ca: website links to 2.13  
docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

I match your bet, and raise the stakes by pointing out the GOP policy:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/gop_002dprop-8-_002d-issue-priorities

Regardless of the obsolete docs under Issues, GOP 8 lists three  
justifications for Critical issues.  IMO this falls under the third.



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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #2 on issue 2399 by d...@gnu.org: website links to 2.13 docs  
for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

  Critical is 'release blocking' (documentation which is what this is) not  
release-blocking.


Star wars fans will rejoice that we have tracker issues written in Yodic.


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Re: Issue 2400 in lilypond: Dots no longer aligned between voices

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond


Comment #6 on issue 2400 by d...@gnu.org: Dots no longer aligned between  
voices

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2400

lilyp...@googlecode.com writes:


Comment #3 on issue 2400 by k-ohara5...@oco.net: Dots no longer
aligned between voices
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2400



My difficulty with adding the example as a regression test, is that I
can't say of the two images is the 'correct' one.


"correct" only matters where the compilation fails.  Others than that,
the regtests are for visual comparisons.


I could add a test with this music set both ways, with the description
being: "The Dot Column can be engraved in either Voice or Staff.  The
two settings differ in readability and aesthetics, but both should be
decipherable."


I think it is important to have the default for comparison between
versions.  The effect of specific tweaks might be nice to look at as
additional info, but the important part of the visual comparison is that
of the default settings.



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Re: Key_signature_engraver unknown

2012-03-16 Thread James
Hello,

On 13 March 2012 22:39, Trevor Daniels  wrote:
>
> Eluze, you wrote Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:22 PM
>
>
>> why is the Time_signature_engraver not called Time_engraver  - or what
>> rules
>> are used in constructing names?
>
>
> I don't know.  These names were first devised almost 10 years ago,
> well before I discovered LilyPond.  But one possibility is because one
> often uses "key" and "key signature" interchangeably when talking
> loosely, but one never hears "time" as an alternative to "time signature".
>
>
>> I'm not sure about making this an issue…
>
>
> James likes to have issues raised for doc changes,

I do only because I can (and do) miss the email requests for doc
enhancements - my inbox is full enough as it is trying to keep up with
potential snippets and/or general doc improvements. Tracker numbers
are cheap. I also tend to batch-fix all the small requests in one
'sitting' this is a much more efficient use of my time.

Anyway, this is now pushed to staging. Should be in 2.15.34

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commit;h=c69a9437979b012b766f94ef4ec45f9c2eac645d


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James

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Re: Issue 2399 in lilypond: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
	Summary: website links to 2.13 docs for 'help us' points to a non-existent  
page

Labels: -Type-Critical Type-Documentation

Comment #1 on issue 2399 by pkx1...@gmail.com: website links to 2.13 docs  
for 'help us' points to a non-existent page

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2399

Critical is 'release blocking' (documentation which is what this is) not  
release-blocking.


See

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/issue-classification

We have pretty well defined labels


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Re: Issue 2388 in lilypond: Doc: using \voiceXXX for direction and placement

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Fixed
Labels: -Patch-push Fixed_2_15_34

Comment #11 on issue 2388 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Doc: using \voiceXXX for  
direction and placement

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2388

committer   James Lowe 
Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:22:07 + (07:22 +)
commit  b63f205feabebfd5ed39fdaa57308c4b08eb70b3


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Issue 2410 in lilypond: Doc: Translation NR 5.1.4 - Typo for engraver in Fr/Ja/Es and De docs

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Status: Accepted
Owner: 
Labels: Type-Documentation

New issue 2410 by pkx1...@gmail.com: Doc: Translation NR 5.1.4 - Typo for  
engraver in Fr/Ja/Es and De docs

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2410

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/modifying-context-plug_002dins

First Paragraph.

'Key_signature_engraver' does not exist. Should be 'Key_engraver'

Apparent in French/Japanese/Spanish and German changing-defaults.itely

Fixed in English - was issue 2394




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Re: Issue 2394 in lilypond: use of Key_signature_engraver in 2.15.33 is incorrect should be key_engraver

2012-03-16 Thread lilypond

Updates:
	Summary: use of Key_signature_engraver in 2.15.33 is incorrect should be  
key_engraver

Status: Fixed
Owner: pkx1...@gmail.com
Labels: fixed_2_15_34

Comment #1 on issue 2394 by pkx1...@gmail.com: use of  
Key_signature_engraver in 2.15.33 is incorrect should be key_engraver

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2394

committer   James Lowe 
Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:56:14 + (06:56 +)
commit  c69a9437979b012b766f94ef4ec45f9c2eac645d


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