Re: \quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread Neil Puttock
On 14 June 2010 11:48, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Hm.  Is there any situation where mechanically substituting \quoteDuring
> with \context Voice \quoteDuring is going to cause trouble?

Nothing springs to mind.  It would have to be effectively \context
Bottom though to ensure all bottom-level contexts can be created
(e.g., in a TabStaff or DrumStaff).

Cheers,
Neil

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Re: \quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer  writes:

> Am Montag, 14. Juni 2010, um 12:28:48 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Reinhold Kainhofer  writes:
>> > You need to create the voice explicitly, as implicit voice generation
>> > does not work with things like quotes (or tempo marks inside
>> > triplets):
>> > 
>> > \new Voice {
>> >   \relative c'' {
>> > \quoteDuring #"part" { s4 }
>> >   }
>> > }
>> 
>> Is there a good reason to have implicit voice generation not work in
>> such circumstances?
>
> Yes, lack of developers ;-) (Just like the old grace note bug will probably 
> not get fixed for a long time) 
> Seriously, this issue goes very deep, dealing with the very internals of 
> lilypond. Thus, it is quite intricate to get right, and there are not so many 
> developers who understand what is going on exactly...

Hm.  Is there any situation where mechanically substituting \quoteDuring
with \context Voice \quoteDuring is going to cause trouble?

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Re: \quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 14. Juni 2010, um 12:28:48 schrieb David Kastrup:
> Reinhold Kainhofer  writes:
> > You need to create the voice explicitly, as implicit voice generation
> > does not work with things like quotes (or tempo marks inside
> > triplets):
> > 
> > \new Voice {
> >   \relative c'' {
> > \quoteDuring #"part" { s4 }
> >   }
> > }
> 
> Is there a good reason to have implicit voice generation not work in
> such circumstances?

Yes, lack of developers ;-) (Just like the old grace note bug will probably 
not get fixed for a long time) 
Seriously, this issue goes very deep, dealing with the very internals of 
lilypond. Thus, it is quite intricate to get right, and there are not so many 
developers who understand what is going on exactly...

Cheers,
Reinhold

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 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org

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Re: \quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer  writes:

> Am Montag, 14. Juni 2010, um 10:54:27 schrieb Christian Hitz:
>> \quoteDuring does not quote when used at the beginning of a piece.
>> 
>> Result: No Notes are quoted.
>> Expected Result: Quoting the beginning of the quoted voice.
>
> You need to create the voice explicitly, as implicit voice generation
> does not work with things like quotes (or tempo marks inside
> triplets):
>
> \new Voice {
>   \relative c'' {
> \quoteDuring #"part" { s4 }
>   }
> }

Is there a good reason to have implicit voice generation not work in
such circumstances?

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Re: \quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 14. Juni 2010, um 10:54:27 schrieb Christian Hitz:
> \quoteDuring does not quote when used at the beginning of a piece.
> 
> Result: No Notes are quoted.
> Expected Result: Quoting the beginning of the quoted voice.

You need to create the voice explicitly, as implicit voice generation does not 
work with things like quotes (or tempo marks inside triplets):

\new Voice {
  \relative c'' {
\quoteDuring #"part" { s4 }
  }
}


Cheers,
Reinhold

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 * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria
 * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886
 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org

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\quoteDuring at the beginning

2010-06-14 Thread Christian Hitz
Hi,

\quoteDuring does not quote when used at the beginning of a piece.

Result: No Notes are quoted.
Expected Result: Quoting the beginning of the quoted voice.

Regards,
Christian



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