Re: Bug Squad Rota
David Kastrup wrote Eluze lt; eluzew@ gt; writes: as to the backfilling I need to know more about what this means exactly! Take over. Put issues with a patch for which the review indicates no further need for discussion on a countdown, and announce them. When a countdown is finished without significant protests, put the issue on push status and announce that. Take over. ??? probably I should have a look at the contributor's guide to see see what is there: - how do I know there is a patch for an issue and no further need for discussion (can I get this information from the issue tracker or do I need other sources?) - what does _put_the_issue_on_push_status_ mean exactly I will see in the next few days what information I can gather from CG or the Google issue tracker Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bug-Squad-Rota-tp138908p139272.html Sent from the Bugs mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Hello, On 10 January 2013 21:51, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: David Kastrup wrote Eluze lt; eluzew@ gt; writes: as to the backfilling I need to know more about what this means exactly! Take over. Put issues with a patch for which the review indicates no further need for discussion on a countdown, and announce them. When a countdown is finished without significant protests, put the issue on push status and announce that. Take over. ??? probably I should have a look at the contributor's guide to see see what is there: - how do I know there is a patch for an issue and no further need for discussion (can I get this information from the issue tracker or do I need other sources?) Rietveld Issue (linked in the tracker) Tracker itself Colin says he scans all the email lists too (although I personally wouldn't scan 'user' - only because there are already a lot of places to check if you include bug and dev) Anything more is just going beyond what is expected. There are often enough eyes on things to catch patches that shouldn't be pushed but have been set as such because no one comments. It seems that some devs like to put a LGTM whereas others just flag problems when there is one a sort of 'new news is good news approach'. Some parts of the code only one or two can probably comment on anyway/ - what does _put_the_issue_on_push_status_ mean exactly It means you find the issue on the trackjer and chang its status from Patch-Review, to Patch-Countdown then to Patch-push. So it sounds like you spend a lot of time in the tracker. :) I will see in the next few days what information I can gather from CG or the Google issue tracker There may not be anything useful at this time - I haven't checked but Colin said he would update the CG guide with this information (or at least what he does) before he finishes this weekend. regards James ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
- Original Message - From: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Bug Squad Rota On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:54:17PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com wrote in message New bug squad rota, effective from 9th January 2013 (tomorrow). Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Cheers, Colin. You want me to push this to the CG? Yes, please, Phil. Cheers, Colin. Pushed to staging as 6b60e4586a999266f7a0fc4ffd197d0c9fae2f13 -- Phil Holmes ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Colin Hall-3 wrote Not quite. I now realise that when Eluze said (iso Tues) that this could be a special code for instead of Tuesday but I need to check. I thought Eluze was volunteering for doing additional slots. My understanding is that the constraints are as follows: … Eluze would like to stop doing Tuesday and David Kastrup suggested that Eluze could backfill for Colin Campbell. I didn't mean I want to stop Tuesday, I just said on Tuesdays I can only start in the late afternoon (European time). if needed I can also take a 2nd shift. as to the backfilling I need to know more about what this means exactly! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bug-Squad-Rota-tp138908p139183.html Sent from the Bugs mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes: Colin Hall-3 wrote Not quite. I now realise that when Eluze said (iso Tues) that this could be a special code for instead of Tuesday but I need to check. I thought Eluze was volunteering for doing additional slots. My understanding is that the constraints are as follows: … Eluze would like to stop doing Tuesday and David Kastrup suggested that Eluze could backfill for Colin Campbell. I didn't mean I want to stop Tuesday, I just said on Tuesdays I can only start in the late afternoon (European time). if needed I can also take a 2nd shift. as to the backfilling I need to know more about what this means exactly! Take over. Put issues with a patch for which the review indicates no further need for discussion on a countdown, and announce them. When a countdown is finished without significant protests, put the issue on push status and announce that. -- David Kastrup ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Phil Holmes writes: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:54:17PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com wrote in message New bug squad rota, effective from 9th January 2013 (tomorrow). Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Cheers, Colin. You want me to push this to the CG? Yes, please, Phil. Pushed to staging as 6b60e4586a999266f7a0fc4ffd197d0c9fae2f13 Thanks, Phil. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Eluze writes: Colin Hall-3 wrote Not quite. I now realise that when Eluze said (iso Tues) that this could be a special code for instead of Tuesday but I need to check. I thought Eluze was volunteering for doing additional slots. My understanding is that the constraints are as follows: … Eluze would like to stop doing Tuesday and David Kastrup suggested that Eluze could backfill for Colin Campbell. I didn't mean I want to stop Tuesday Yes, I'm sorry, I misrepresented what you wrote. I just said on Tuesdays I can only start in the late afternoon (European time). if needed I can also take a 2nd shift. Understood. I saw your positive comment on the new rota, so I also understand that you are ok with the move from Tuesday to Monday. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
2013/1/8 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Everyone happy with that? LGTM Marek ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
I think this schedule meets those constraints: Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Everyone happy with that? Works for me. Thanks, everyone! Ralph ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
2013/1/8 Eluze elu...@gmail.com Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I think this schedule meets those constraints: Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Everyone happy with that? I'm fine with this! Eluze Me too, of course. I'll start next Sunday (13th). ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 06:34:20PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: 2013/1/8 Eluze elu...@gmail.com Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I think this schedule meets those constraints: Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Everyone happy with that? I'm fine with this! Eluze Me too, of course. I'll start next Sunday (13th). Good! New bug squad rota, effective from 9th January 2013 (tomorrow). Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall Bug Meister. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com wrote in message news:20130108173957.ga14...@edcsrv02.eng.allegro.msad... On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 06:34:20PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: 2013/1/8 Eluze elu...@gmail.com Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I think this schedule meets those constraints: Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Everyone happy with that? I'm fine with this! Eluze Me too, of course. I'll start next Sunday (13th). Good! New bug squad rota, effective from 9th January 2013 (tomorrow). Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Cheers, Colin. You want me to push this to the CG? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:54:17PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com wrote in message New bug squad rota, effective from 9th January 2013 (tomorrow). Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Cheers, Colin. You want me to push this to the CG? Yes, please, Phil. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Il 07/01/2013 02:04, Colin Hall ha scritto: I would prefer Sunday, but Saturday can be ok. I was thinking that Marek should get some relief as he has been doing two days for a long time. If you took Sunday, Federico, I could take one of Marek's slots. ok for me ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Il 07/01/2013 00:46, Eluze ha scritto: also I'm missing a tool to show mails which never got answers (I'm using Thunderbird + gmail) - although there is a column total in Thunderbird I cannot sort/filter by that. suggestions? stars? or tags (you can use a number as shortcut for each color) ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 08:31:51AM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 07/01/2013 02:04, Colin Hall ha scritto: I would prefer Sunday, but Saturday can be ok. I was thinking that Marek should get some relief as he has been doing two days for a long time. If you took Sunday, Federico, I could take one of Marek's slots. ok for me Marek, would you like me to take one of your days? Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Hello Colin, 2013/1/7 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Marek, would you like me to take one of your days? If you can do other staff for lilipond instead - then do it. If you prefer doing bug squad duties, I prefer to get rid of friday... Marek ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk wrote: Hello Colin, 2013/1/7 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com Marek, would you like me to take one of your days? If you can do other staff for lilipond instead - then do it. If you prefer doing bug squad duties, I prefer to get rid of friday... Marek Whoa! I'm getting confused. Where does it stand now? I repeat my earlier request to take a weekday. If Federico is joining us, could we figure out a rota that would move me off of Saturday? I'd be happy to take either of Marek's days or either of Colin's days, but not if it means switching to Sunday. Ralph ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Il 07/01/2013 21:16, Ralph Palmer ha scritto: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk mailto:ma...@gregoriana.sk wrote: Hello Colin, 2013/1/7 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com mailto:colingh...@gmail.com Marek, would you like me to take one of your days? If you can do other staff for lilipond instead - then do it. If you prefer doing bug squad duties, I prefer to get rid of friday... Marek Whoa! I'm getting confused. Where does it stand now? I repeat my earlier request to take a weekday. If Federico is joining us, could we figure out a rota that would move me off of Saturday? I'd be happy to take either of Marek's days or either of Colin's days, but not if it means switching to Sunday. Ralph I _think_ that this may be the next rota (waiting for confirmation from Colin): Mon - Ralph Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - (vacant but will be Joe Wakeling soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 09:24:44PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 07/01/2013 21:16, Ralph Palmer ha scritto: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk mailto:ma...@gregoriana.sk wrote: Hello Colin, 2013/1/7 Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com mailto:colingh...@gmail.com Marek, would you like me to take one of your days? If you can do other staff for lilipond instead - then do it. If you prefer doing bug squad duties, I prefer to get rid of friday... Marek Whoa! I'm getting confused. Where does it stand now? I repeat my earlier request to take a weekday. If Federico is joining us, could we figure out a rota that would move me off of Saturday? I'd be happy to take either of Marek's days or either of Colin's days, but not if it means switching to Sunday. Ralph I _think_ that this may be the next rota (waiting for confirmation from Colin): Mon - Ralph Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - (vacant but will be Joe Wakeling soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Not quite. I now realise that when Eluze said (iso Tues) that this could be a special code for instead of Tuesday but I need to check. I thought Eluze was volunteering for doing additional slots. My understanding is that the constraints are as follows: Ralph would like a weekday shift from Colin or Marek but definitely not the Sunday shift. Marek is happy to do two slots but given a chance he would like to lose Friday. Eluze would like to stop doing Tuesday and David Kastrup suggested that Eluze could backfill for Colin Campbell. Federico is happy to take Sunday from Colin Joe Wakeling is slated for Thursday. I think this schedule meets those constraints: Mon - Eluze Tue - Ralph Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Wakeling (soon) Fri - Colin H Sat - Colin H Sun - Federico Everyone happy with that? Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Bug Squad Rota
Greetings Colin, Bug Squaders, and Developers - Thanks, Colin, for running the scripts and reporting the Bug squad metrics. I have a request to make. I live in the eastern U.S., and at least some of the Bug Squaders appear to live in Europe. My usual (most reliable) time on the computer on the weekend is in the morning. As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. I appreciate your time, your attention, and your help, Ralph ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Il 06/01/2013 14:35, Ralph Palmer ha scritto: I have a request to make. I live in the eastern U.S., and at least some of the Bug Squaders appear to live in Europe. My usual (most reliable) time on the computer on the weekend is in the morning. As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. Hi Ralph I was discussing privately with Colin the idea of joining the Bug Squad. I'm still waiting for the confirmation that reading lilypond-auto is not a requisite (my email capacity is saturated), but if that's the case I'd like to choose one of the weekend days. Colin has Sunday and Monday currently. I would prefer Sunday, but Saturday can be ok. Let me know -- Federico ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I have a request to make. I live in the eastern U.S., and at least some of the Bug Squaders appear to live in Europe. My usual (most reliable) time on the computer on the weekend is in the morning. As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. hi Ralph + the other bug squad members I'm leaving in Europe and I'm probably one of the snagging/cherry-picking ones (but I never intended to take something away from anybody, I just think that users are happy to get quick answers and when I think I got the answer I usually reply) of course I understand it's someway frustrating to reserve time to work on the lists and then to get aware that everything (or nearly) has already been done. do you think assigning requests to a certain squad member (following the duty times/days) would be better? or are there other models how to treat this? I can also offer to take another day (iso Tuesday); on Tuesdays I most often can only look into Lilypond later in the afternoon - which probably is still early for people in the US. thanks Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bug-Squad-Rota-tp138908p138918.html Sent from the Bugs mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes: Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I have a request to make. I live in the eastern U.S., and at least some of the Bug Squaders appear to live in Europe. My usual (most reliable) time on the computer on the weekend is in the morning. As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. hi Ralph + the other bug squad members I'm leaving in Europe and I'm probably one of the snagging/cherry-picking ones (but I never intended to take something away from anybody, I just think that users are happy to get quick answers and when I think I got the answer I usually reply) of course I understand it's someway frustrating to reserve time to work on the lists and then to get aware that everything (or nearly) has already been done. Would it be an option for you to try managing the countdowns before/rather than snagging? We don't yet have somebody taking over from Colin, and you at least have some experience with issue reports. -- David Kastrup ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
David Kastrup wrote Would it be an option for you to try managing the countdowns before/rather than snagging? promised just to spell out - sometimes I've been looking for posts with no replies and often found some of them lying fallow after 2 or 3 three days (or more) - high noon to get them handled! but sometimes you have to scroll down a few pages… also I'm missing a tool to show mails which never got answers (I'm using Thunderbird + gmail) - although there is a column total in Thunderbird I cannot sort/filter by that. suggestions? and it's not a big help if the same post is on different lists (like this one) - replies on dev will not show on bug and vice versa ! We don't yet have somebody taking over from Colin, and you at least have some experience with issue reports. I don't hope his gonna quit!? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Bug-Squad-Rota-tp138908p138932.html Sent from the Bugs mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On 13-01-06 04:46 PM, Eluze wrote: David Kastrup wrote We don't yet have somebody taking over from Colin, and you at least have some experience with issue reports. I don't hope his gonna quit!? Eluze No, I'm just taking a sort of sabbatical, Eluze, until the summer or so. I'm finding that I spend all my Lilypond time reading the lists, and I need to get back to using it. I definitely want to come back after a break, and help out where I can, though, and I'll be on the lists off and on as I run into stuff. James had also offered to take over, so I'm going to propose a patch to CG 8.7 which will set out the way I've been doing the Patch Nanny task. Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 03:11:28PM +0100, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 06/01/2013 14:35, Ralph Palmer ha scritto: in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. Hi Ralph I was discussing privately with Colin the idea of joining the Bug Squad. I'm still waiting for the confirmation that reading lilypond-auto is not a requisite (my email capacity is saturated), It isn't. I subscribe to lilypond-auto but I skim through them very quickly. but if that's the case I'd like to choose one of the weekend days. Colin has Sunday and Monday currently. Yes. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/bug-squad-checklists The rota in the 2.17 docs is up to date and has been in effect since 19-Nov-2012: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - (vacant but will be Joe Wakeling soon) Fri - Marek Sat - Ralph Sun - Colin H I would prefer Sunday, but Saturday can be ok. I was thinking that Marek should get some relief as he has been doing two days for a long time. If you took Sunday, Federico, I could take one of Marek's slots. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 08:35:10AM -0500, Ralph Palmer wrote: As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If you would like to change shifts, that's fine, Ralph. Generally I think the amount of work people do goes up and down depending upon their availability. Certainly true for me, and I think we just pick up the slack for each other, and that's fine. Much of my bug squad work is done between 22:00 and 01:00 GMT so I often don't start handling reports until many hours after my shift has started, local time. An idea I have used in the past is a virtual or physical token that is passed around the team to signal the handover of responsibility. When you've done your bit you send a subject-only email to the squad (not bug-lilypond) saying Bug squad token free. When the next squad member comes on shift, or if someone wants to do some extra, they send an email saying Bug squad token taken. This does not replace the rota; we would still have allotted days. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Bug Squad Rota
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 08:57:47AM -0800, Eluze wrote: Ralph Palmer-3 wrote I have a request to make. I live in the eastern U.S., and at least some of the Bug Squaders appear to live in Europe. My usual (most reliable) time on the computer on the weekend is in the morning. As a result, I frequently don't have any bugs to evaluate when I get up on Saturday morning, and I frequently don't get back to the Bug List until Sunday morning. By that time, someone in Europe has usually snagged my Saturday bugs. In the interest of equity of labor, I'm requesting that someone who has one of the weekdays (where I'm more often at the computer later in the day) switch with me. If no one wishes to switch, I can stay on Saturday, but I probably won't catch as many bugs as I ought. hi Ralph + the other bug squad members I'm leaving in Europe and I'm probably one of the snagging/cherry-picking ones (but I never intended to take something away from anybody, I just think that users are happy to get quick answers and when I think I got the answer I usually reply) Agreed. do you think assigning requests to a certain squad member (following the duty times/days) would be better? I think that might be unnecessarily bureaucratic. Simply holding the bug-lilypond emails in your mail system as a backlog, and then working through them when you come on shift is the right way to go. This is the approach documented in the CG. or are there other models how to treat this? See my earlier email about token passing. Might help. I can also offer to take another day (iso Tuesday); on Tuesdays I most often can only look into Lilypond later in the afternoon - which probably is still early for people in the US. Thanks, Eluze, but I think you are already doing a lot. I see that you are very active supporting users on the lilypond-user list, in addition to your bug squad work. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: New bug squad rota
- Original Message - From: Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:05 AM Subject: Re: New bug squad rota On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:53:54PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: With the return of Ralph Palmer here is the bug squad rota from 19th Nov 2012 onwards: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Fri - Marek Sat - Ralph Sun - Colin H Can you update the CG, or do you want me to? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad If you could update it, Phil, that would be great. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall Pushed to staging as 436824b892927e1c7eb0142698c4c76b7240590b -- Phil Holmes ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
New bug squad rota
Hi, With the return of Ralph Palmer here is the bug squad rota from 19th Nov 2012 onwards: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Fri - Marek Sat - Ralph Sun - Colin H Any questions, please get in touch. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: New bug squad rota
Colin Hall colingh...@gmail.com wrote in message news:20121119171616.gb29...@edcsrv02.eng.allegro.msad... Hi, With the return of Ralph Palmer here is the bug squad rota from 19th Nov 2012 onwards: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Fri - Marek Sat - Ralph Sun - Colin H Any questions, please get in touch. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall Can you update the CG, or do you want me to? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: New bug squad rota
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:53:54PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: With the return of Ralph Palmer here is the bug squad rota from 19th Nov 2012 onwards: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - Joe Fri - Marek Sat - Ralph Sun - Colin H Can you update the CG, or do you want me to? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad If you could update it, Phil, that would be great. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Updated bug squad rota
I've taken over the role of bug meister from Phil Holmes. The bug squad have agreed the following rota: Mon - Colin H Tue - Eluze Wed - Marek Thu - Ralph Fri - Marek Sat - Matthias Sun - Colin H Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond