Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
Am 15.04.2013 18:05, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 15.04.2013 17:58, schrieb Phil Holmes: Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com wrote in message news:516c0551.9040...@gmail.com... When looking through the CG searching for info on contributing I was directed to the Meisters page to get in touch with them. On the page itself however I only find four first names without any contact information. Fortunately I could figure out whom to contact, but of course you can't expect someone willing to contribute not to stop here and look for something different. I would say that on that page I would like to see the full names of the Meisters as well as their email addresses in order to 'get in touch' with the as I was suggested to. Attached patch would do that. Feel free to include it Best Urs I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam they could generate. That's what I thought first too. But Documentation/included/authors.itexi _does_ show email addresses (even undisguised ones). This should be clarified: - Should email addresses be exposed on lilypond.org? - if yes, undisguised or in which form? - if there should be _no_ email addresses the documentation in the CG should be adapted. Maybe one could be asked to write to the mailing list in order to get contacted back? Although this isn't exactly encouraging ... Urs Would somebody please create a tracker about this? The current behaviour is not acceptable. We can't direct potential contributors to the Meisters page and leave them there without any contact information. Another idea to protect the privacy of the meisters would be to create 'anonymous' email accounts like bug-meis...@lilypond.org that forward to a personal mailbox. If there is an agreement on what we want to have I can prepare a patch. Urs ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
2013/4/19 Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com: I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam they could generate. - Should email addresses be exposed on lilypond.org? Would somebody please create a tracker about this? The current behaviour is not acceptable. We can't direct potential contributors to the Meisters page and leave them there without any contact information. Another idea to protect the privacy of the meisters would be to create 'anonymous' email accounts like bug-meis...@lilypond.org that forward to a personal mailbox. If I had my email address clearly exposed in the project page, it would be only tangentially more prone to spam than it currently is. I do not oppose to show it, possibly with a minimal obfuscation such as 'at' 'dot' and the like, which spambots can already decypher anyway. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2013/4/19 Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com: I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam they could generate. - Should email addresses be exposed on lilypond.org? Would somebody please create a tracker about this? The current behaviour is not acceptable. We can't direct potential contributors to the Meisters page and leave them there without any contact information. Another idea to protect the privacy of the meisters would be to create 'anonymous' email accounts like bug-meis...@lilypond.org that forward to a personal mailbox. If I had my email address clearly exposed in the project page, it would be only tangentially more prone to spam than it currently is. I do not oppose to show it, possibly with a minimal obfuscation such as 'at' 'dot' and the like, which spambots can already decypher anyway. I think if we can manage long-running project aliases like bug-meis...@lilypond.org, that would be preferable. We have responsibilities shifting not infrequently, and people just _love_ to consult documentation that has been outdated for decades and/or that is corresponding to the software version they have installed. Alternatively, point people directly to the mailing lists. -- David Kastrup ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
Am 19.04.2013 13:24, schrieb David Kastrup:
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes:
2013/4/19 Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com:
I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam
they could generate.
- Should email addresses be exposed on lilypond.org?
Would somebody please create a tracker about this?
The current behaviour is not acceptable. We can't direct potential
contributors to the Meisters page and leave them there without any contact
information.
Another idea to protect the privacy of the meisters would be to create
'anonymous' email accounts like bug-meis...@lilypond.org that forward to a
personal mailbox.
If I had my email address clearly exposed in the project page, it
would be only tangentially more prone to spam than it currently is. I
do not oppose to show it, possibly with a minimal obfuscation such as
'at' 'dot' and the like, which spambots can already decypher anyway.
I think if we can manage long-running project aliases like
bug-meis...@lilypond.org, that would be preferable. We have
responsibilities shifting not infrequently, and people just _love_ to
consult documentation that has been outdated for decades and/or that is
corresponding to the software version they have installed.
Alternatively, point people directly to the mailing lists.
Attached is a patch that adds four alias addresses to the Meisters page.
In order to be applied someone should have created the email addresses
bug-meis...@lilypond.org
doc-meis...@lilypond.org
translation-meis...@lilypond.org
frog-meis...@lilypond.org
and set them up to forward to the real persons.
Urs
From a96bdf73107494324065058d1b73a310bcc04729 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Urs Liska g...@ursliska.de
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:30:18 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Add contact info on Meisters page
Willing to contribute I was directed to the Meisters page - only to get stuck there without any contact information.
This patch supplies alias email addresses.
Someone with the privileges to do so should set up the mail accounts and corresponding forwards before applying this patch
---
Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi |8
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi b/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
index 8be1d90..8baeb31 100644
--- a/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
+++ b/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ Bug Meister: trains new Bug Squad volunteers, organizes who works
on which part of their job, checks to make sure that everything is
running smoothly, and has final say on our policy for Issues.
-Currently: Colin H
+Currently: Colin Hall (bug-meister@@lilypond.org)
@item
Doc Meister: trains new doc editors/writers, organizes who works
@@ -126,14 +126,14 @@ on which part of the job, checks to make sure that everything is
running smoothly, and has final say on our policy for
Documentation. Also includes LSR work.
-Currently: Graham
+Currently: Graham Percival (doc-meister@@lilypond.org)
@item
Translation Meister: trains new translators, updates the
translation priority list, and handles merging branches (in both
directions).
-Currently: Francisco
+Currently: Francisco Vila (translation-meister@@lilypond.org)
@item
Frog Meister: is responsible for code patches from (relatively)
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ finally pushes the patches once they're accepted. This person is
would be far too much work -- his/her job is @qq{only} to guide
completed patches through our process.
-Currently: Mike Solomon
+Currently: Mike Solomon (frog-meister@@lilypond.org)
@end itemize
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Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
If I had my email address clearly exposed in the project page, it would be only tangentially more prone to spam than it currently is. I do not oppose to show it, possibly with a minimal obfuscation such as 'at' 'dot' and the like, which spambots can already decypher anyway. My email address has been unchanged and exposed for nigh on 25 yrs now. I don't think exposure on the lilypond website is likely to have much effect on the spam I currently receive. I've learnt how to deal with it. I think if we can manage long-running project aliases like bug-meis...@lilypond.org, that would be preferable. We have responsibilities shifting not infrequently, and people just _love_ to consult documentation that has been outdated for decades and/or that is corresponding to the software version they have installed. That's a reasonable thing to do, but it has no effect on reducing spam. Alternatively, point people directly to the mailing lists. That's a good suggestion. All the developers are contactable via the devel list, and anyone can post there via gmane without needing to subscribe. Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
When looking through the CG searching for info on contributing I was
directed to the Meisters page to get in touch with them.
On the page itself however I only find four first names without any
contact information.
Fortunately I could figure out whom to contact, but of course you can't
expect someone willing to contribute not to stop here and look for
something different.
I would say that on that page I would like to see the full names of the
Meisters as well as their email addresses in order to 'get in touch'
with the as I was suggested to.
Attached patch would do that.
Feel free to include it
Best
Urs
From 6371d34ec63cd1060aa56a937941a4c3ac90a6ad Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Urs Liska g...@ursliska.de
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:30:18 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Add contact info on Meisters page
I was directed to the Meisters page in order to contribute - only to get stuck there because there are only four first names, without surnames or email addresses.
Someone less commited to the project would probably stop here, so I add the relevant information to the Meisters page
---
Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi |8
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi b/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
index 8be1d90..75c3f3f 100644
--- a/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
+++ b/Documentation/contributor/administration.itexi
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@ Bug Meister: trains new Bug Squad volunteers, organizes who works
on which part of their job, checks to make sure that everything is
running smoothly, and has final say on our policy for Issues.
-Currently: Colin H
+Currently: Colin Hall (colinghall@@gmail.com)
@item
Doc Meister: trains new doc editors/writers, organizes who works
@@ -126,14 +126,14 @@ on which part of the job, checks to make sure that everything is
running smoothly, and has final say on our policy for
Documentation. Also includes LSR work.
-Currently: Graham
+Currently: Graham Percival (graham@@percival-music.ca)
@item
Translation Meister: trains new translators, updates the
translation priority list, and handles merging branches (in both
directions).
-Currently: Francisco
+Currently: Francisco Vila (paconetorg@@gmailcom)
@item
Frog Meister: is responsible for code patches from (relatively)
@@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ finally pushes the patches once they're accepted. This person is
would be far too much work -- his/her job is @qq{only} to guide
completed patches through our process.
-Currently: Mike Solomon
+Currently: Mike Solomon (mike@@mikesolomon.org)
@end itemize
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Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com wrote in message news:516c0551.9040...@gmail.com... When looking through the CG searching for info on contributing I was directed to the Meisters page to get in touch with them. On the page itself however I only find four first names without any contact information. Fortunately I could figure out whom to contact, but of course you can't expect someone willing to contribute not to stop here and look for something different. I would say that on that page I would like to see the full names of the Meisters as well as their email addresses in order to 'get in touch' with the as I was suggested to. Attached patch would do that. Feel free to include it Best Urs I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam they could generate. -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Contact info on the Meisters page of CG
Am 15.04.2013 17:58, schrieb Phil Holmes: Urs Liska lilyli...@googlemail.com wrote in message news:516c0551.9040...@gmail.com... When looking through the CG searching for info on contributing I was directed to the Meisters page to get in touch with them. On the page itself however I only find four first names without any contact information. Fortunately I could figure out whom to contact, but of course you can't expect someone willing to contribute not to stop here and look for something different. I would say that on that page I would like to see the full names of the Meisters as well as their email addresses in order to 'get in touch' with the as I was suggested to. Attached patch would do that. Feel free to include it Best Urs I presume the reason emails weren't there was because of the extra spam they could generate. That's what I thought first too. But Documentation/included/authors.itexi _does_ show email addresses (even undisguised ones). This should be clarified: - Should email addresses be exposed on lilypond.org? - if yes, undisguised or in which form? - if there should be _no_ email addresses the documentation in the CG should be adapted. Maybe one could be asked to write to the mailing list in order to get contacted back? Although this isn't exactly encouraging ... Urs ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
