Re: Fw: Error in documentation
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:47 AM Just pushed a fix for the parenthesis engraver to staging. The chord bracket stuff was already fixed shortly before: commit 4bdb9204b1b682b38bd76afc03e5d629621428f1 Should cherry-pick into translation, I think, so that this moves into 2.18.1 as well. Thanks David. No need for a tracker then. Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Error in documentation
Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net writes: Peter Crighton wrote: Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? Copying to -bugs for an issue. Too late, already fixed this in master and stable/2.18. -- David Kastrup ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Error in documentation
This has been fixed already. Trevor Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:25 PM Copying to -bugs for an issue. - Original Message - From: Peter Crighton To: LilyPond Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Error in documentation Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? -- Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz/Wiesbaden, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-u...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-u...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Error in documentation
Copying to -bugs for an issue. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Crighton To: LilyPond Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Error in documentation Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? -- Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz/Wiesbaden, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-u...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Fw: Error in documentation
Forwarding to bug list ... - Original Message - From: Peter Crighton petecrigh...@gmail.com To: LilyPond Mailing List lilypond-u...@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Error in documentation Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? -- Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz/Wiesbaden, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-u...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Fw: Error in documentation
Trevor Daniels wrote Forwarding to bug list ... - Original Message - From: Peter Crighton lt; petecrighton@ gt; To: LilyPond Mailing List lt; lilypond-user@ gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Error in documentation Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? seems to come from times when tweaks like \parenthesize only worked in chords... now the Parenthesis_engraver is included in the Score definition is there a reason to keep this snippet or change it (suggestions?) Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Fw-Error-in-documentation-tp157959p157961.html Sent from the Bugs mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Fw: Error in documentation
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes: Trevor Daniels wrote Forwarding to bug list ... - Original Message - From: Peter Crighton lt; petecrighton@ gt; To: LilyPond Mailing List lt; lilypond-user@ gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:27 PM Subject: Error in documentation Hello all, in the documentation about percussion notation it is said that you need to include the Parenthesis_engraver in order to use \parenthesize – http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-percussion.html#ghost-notes This is not true, you do not have to include anything. Also, you do not have to add chord brackets. Maybe this could be updated? seems to come from times when tweaks like \parenthesize only worked in chords... now the Parenthesis_engraver is included in the Score definition is there a reason to keep this snippet or change it (suggestions?) Just pushed a fix for the parenthesis engraver to staging. The chord bracket stuff was already fixed shortly before: commit 4bdb9204b1b682b38bd76afc03e5d629621428f1 Author: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Date: Thu Jan 16 06:32:15 2014 +0100 NR percussion: Parenthesis_engraver is available at Score level commit 80f53a23cf96c173c8b27209227a69644b75a13d Author: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org Date: Mon Jan 6 04:00:01 2014 +0100 NR percussion: Remove advice obsoleted by issue 2240 \parenthesize works fine on single notes. Should cherry-pick into translation, I think, so that this moves into 2.18.1 as well. -- David Kastrup ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Error in documentation
In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of the third stave of output) in the snippet http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output. Nick ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Error in documentation
Hello, On 22 March 2012 19:09, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: In the snippets documentation, the second of the coda symbols (beginning of the third stave of output) in the snippet http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-positioning-segno-and-coda-_0028with-line-break_0029 is shifted to the left and only partly visible in the snippet output. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2428 james ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
Re: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
It's not a *chord*; it's just notes occuring simultaneously. Err... that will make sense later, once you've read the tutorial. Others: I detest LM 1.4. It always confuses people -- and worse, it confuses the people who are seriously trying to understand lilypond. People who just jump into the tutorial don't have this problem. Cheers, - Graham On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:19:13 + (UTC) Christian Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just read the introductory chapter of the documentation, and it seems there is an error in section 1.4: the c d e chord is written with double angle brackets there instead of single ones? I'm new to lilypond so perhaps this can be tweaked somehow. But at least from reading the introduction and trying it out it's confusing. Anyway, great piece of software and---as far as I read---good documentation! Cheers, Christian ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
AW: AW: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
Ah, I forgot to mention -- I changed the wording in 2.11. Please check the online docs for 2.11 and let me know if you can think of any improvement. I see, I didn't check that. Definitely better. And nice layout! I think it might still be confusing for somebody trying it out. Perhaps more so for somebody reading the tutorial first because he knows the difference between a chord and simultaneous notes. But I see the difficulty. You use `` '' next to make an expression simultaneous to a single note. Perhaps a footnote for somebody being confused, saying that this is actually a chord or would be typeset in multiple staffs this way but is just used to illustrate the concept here? Cheers, Christian ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
AW: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
Christian Keil wrote:
and what follows is ... only achieved with single angle brackets.
Using double brackets results in three staffs with the corresponding notes.
Try putting something up front, as in:
{ s4 c4 d4 e4 }
You have tripped up over one of those inconsistencies caused by automagic.
If you do not (yet) recognise such situations, Lilypond can be frustrating.
.
This case is mentioned at the start of Learning Manual 2.3.2.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Multiple-
staves
Cheers,
Robin
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Re: AW: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:32:02 + (GMT) Christian Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But directly before the first occurence of the simultaneous notes it says Chords can be constructed... and what follows is---at least with my Debian version 2.10.33 Ah, I forgot to mention -- I changed the wording in 2.11. Please check the online docs for 2.11 and let me know if you can think of any improvement. Cheers, - Graham ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
AW: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
Ok, i see. But directly before the first occurence of the simultaneous notes it says Chords can be constructed... and what follows is---at least with my Debian version 2.10.33---only achieved with single angle brackets. Using double brackets results in three staffs with the corresponding notes. Regarding the tutorial: I actually started with the tutorial and I was confused as I read the introduction afterwards because I was thinking Hey wait, this is supposed to be a chord but written with . Perhaps this is some tweaking or error stemming from earlier versions' notation? That's why I posted. Cheers, Christian - Ursprüngliche Mail Von: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Christian Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: bug-lilypond@gnu.org Gesendet: Sonntag, den 5. Oktober 2008, 17:06:41 Uhr Betreff: Re: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation? It's not a *chord*; it's just notes occuring simultaneously. Err... that will make sense later, once you've read the tutorial. Others: I detest LM 1.4. It always confuses people -- and worse, it confuses the people who are seriously trying to understand lilypond. People who just jump into the tutorial don't have this problem. Cheers, - Graham On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:19:13 + (UTC) Christian Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I just read the introductory chapter of the documentation, and it seems there is an error in section 1.4: the c d e chord is written with double angle brackets there instead of single ones? I'm new to lilypond so perhaps this can be tweaked somehow. But at least from reading the introduction and trying it out it's confusing. Anyway, great piece of software and---as far as I read---good documentation! Cheers, Christian ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
AW: AW: Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
Try putting something up front, as in:
{ s4 }
You have tripped up over one of those inconsistencies caused by automagic.
If you do not (yet) recognise such situations, Lilypond can be frustrating.
Ok, I see. That's indeed a bit confusing =). In this case I think 1.4 is ok.
Perhaps it could use a footnote mentioning the fact---so that nobody starts
this thread again.
Btw, nice support.
Cheers,
Christian
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Error in Documentation 1.4 Music representation?
Hello, I just read the introductory chapter of the documentation, and it seems there is an error in section 1.4: the c d e chord is written with double angle brackets there instead of single ones? I'm new to lilypond so perhaps this can be tweaked somehow. But at least from reading the introduction and trying it out it's confusing. Anyway, great piece of software and---as far as I read---good documentation! Cheers, Christian ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond
