Problems with ties over line breaks

2006-03-19 Thread Cameron Horsburgh

Hi folks,

The score I'm working on has ties going over a page/line break. On the 
second page, one of the ties is hardly noticeable--in fact, I was 
alerted to the problem by what I thought was a misplaced staccato!


I haven't been able to reproduce the problem--any test cases I run turn 
out beautifully. So I'm afraid I'll have to submit the WDT. For size and 
copyright reasons I won't post it to the list--I've put it up at


http://web.netcall.com.au/horsburgh/Downloads/brantwood.pdf

The source can be found at

http://web.netcall.com.au/horsburgh/Downloads/brantwoodSource.ZIP

The problem is at the beginning of page 3 on the second cornet line 
(compare with the first cornet and Eb Bass). I've moved the associated 
slur around as well to no effect.


This score was generated with the GNU/Linux GUB 2.7.39-2.

(Disclaimer: this score is still early in the debugging stage, so please 
go easy! Also, be aware that the piece I'm transcribing is copyright. 
The copyright owner won't mind me putting it up on my site for this 
purpose, but please don't do anything else with it!)




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Re: Problems with ties over line breaks

2006-03-19 Thread Graham Percival


On 19-Mar-06, at 1:54 PM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

The score I'm working on has ties going over a page/line break. On the 
second page, one of the ties is hardly noticeable--in fact, I was 
alerted to the problem by what I thought was a misplaced staccato!


So insert a \noBreak in the middle of the tie?  :)There might be a 
general solution for this, (to forbid breaking during ties in the whole 
piece), but I don't know it.


(I haven't looked at the file, so I don't know how many ties there are. 
 But what other kind of solution were you hoping for?)

- Graham



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Re: Problems with ties over line breaks

2006-03-19 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Sunday 19 March 2006 22.54, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:
 Hi folks,

 The score I'm working on has ties going over a page/line break. On the
 second page, one of the ties is hardly noticeable--in fact, I was
 alerted to the problem by what I thought was a misplaced staccato!

 I haven't been able to reproduce the problem--any test cases I run turn
 out beautifully. So I'm afraid I'll have to submit the WDT. For size and
 copyright reasons I won't post it to the list--I've put it up at

I think it can be fixed with something like:
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f

I think the problem appears because key signatures have different widths.

-- 
Erik Sandberg
Maintainer of the Lilypond bug CVS archive,
http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/lilypond/lily-bugs/bugs/
http://lilypond.org/bugs/v2.7/


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Re: Problems with ties over line breaks

2006-03-19 Thread Cameron Horsburgh

Graham Percival wrote:


On 19-Mar-06, at 1:54 PM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote:

The score I'm working on has ties going over a page/line break. On the 
second page, one of the ties is hardly noticeable--in fact, I was 
alerted to the problem by what I thought was a misplaced staccato!


So insert a \noBreak in the middle of the tie?  :)There might be a 
general solution for this, (to forbid breaking during ties in the whole 
piece), but I don't know it.


(I haven't looked at the file, so I don't know how many ties there are. 
 But what other kind of solution were you hoping for?)

- Graham



I'm not looking for a solution so much as reporting what seems to be a 
regression in tie breaking (that's why I sent it to lily-bug and not 
lily-user.)


It's not really a problem, at least for me. I know a lot of work has 
been done to get the ties right for 2.8, and someone might consider it 
important.


--Cam


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