Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-12-15 Thread Phil Holmes
Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com wrote in message 
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On Wed 17 Nov 2010, 16:18 Ralph Palmer wrote:

Greetings, Anders Vinjar -


[...]

Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 :
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410

Pondly,

Ralph



On Tue 14 Dec 2010, 16:02 Phil Holmes wrote:

Bump.  Could a bug-squadder look at this, please?

Sorry? It was reported as 1410, as far as i can see...


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Thanks.  I highlight/flag threads that report bugs I think should be added 
to the tracker, and for some reason Ralph's post to .bugs wasn't flagged 
with the rest of the thread.


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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-12-15 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 15 Dec 2010, 10:20 Phil Holmes wrote:
 Thanks.  I highlight/flag threads that report bugs I think should be
 added to the tracker, and for some reason Ralph's post to .bugs
 wasn't flagged with the rest of the thread.
:-)

Well, i wondered why this thread was not flagged, so i re-read it (to ensure
myself that flag had been removed for some solid reason,)

Thanks!

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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-12-14 Thread Phil Holmes

ander...@notam02.no wrote in message news:87eiam1vkq@notam02.no...

D == Dmytro O Redchuk brownian@gmail.com writes:

   D Actually, i can understand why this output is _wanted_, but can
   D not imagine good Summary for issue report.

   D Rest in lower voice should be placed above notes in in upper if
   D voices are crossed? Or if lower voice's noteheads are above the
   D middle line, while upper voice's stems are staring from the
   D middle line?

   D I am not sure that either is correct.

No, the point is that the rests belong to the upper voice, and get
pushed below a lower voice if the stem-direction of the upper voice is
flipped.  See the attached examples.

Dont know what is wanted in a Summary for issue report, but perhaps
something along these lines:

Place rests where the noteheads of the voice goes in the column - by
default: odds up, evens down - regardless of stem-direction of voice.

There may be reasons to not have them like this by default, but i cant
figure any places where the opposite (the current behaviour) would be
wanted (ie. in one voice: noteheads above, rests below).

-anders


Bump.  Could a bug-squadder look at this, please?

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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-12-14 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Wed 17 Nov 2010, 16:18 Ralph Palmer wrote:
 Greetings, Anders Vinjar -
 
[...]
 Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 :
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410
 
 Pondly,
 
 Ralph


On Tue 14 Dec 2010, 16:02 Phil Holmes wrote:
 Bump.  Could a bug-squadder look at this, please?
Sorry? It was reported as 1410, as far as i can see...


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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-11-17 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings, Anders Vinjar -

 I'm not top posting.

\version 2.13.39
%% rests in one voice crossing other voice


 {c4 c}\\
 { r8 c'' r c''}


%% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP:

 {c4 c}\\
 {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}


%% wanted output

 {c4 c}\\
 {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}


Thank you for your email. This has been added as issue # 1410 :
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1410

Pondly,

Ralph
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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-11-15 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 04 Nov 2010, 08:59 Anders Vinjar wrote:
  I'm not top posting.
Sorry for delay.

 \version 2.13.39
 %% rests in one voice crossing other voice
 
 
   {c4 c}\\
   { r8 c'' r c''}
 
 
 %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP:
 
   {c4 c}\\
   {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}
 
 
 %% wanted output
 
   {c4 c}\\
   {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}
 
Actually, i can understand why this output is _wanted_, but can not imagine
good Summary for issue report.

Rest in lower voice should be placed above notes in in upper if voices are
crossed? Or if lower voice's noteheads are above the middle line, while
upper voice's stems are staring from the middle line?

I am not sure that either is correct.

Can anyone help me?

Or i've missed something badly?

Thanks.

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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-11-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 4 November 2010 09:59, Anders Vinjar ander...@notam02.no wrote:

 I'm not top posting.

 \version 2.13.39
 %% rests in one voice crossing other voice

 
  {c4 c}\\
  { r8 c'' r c''}
 

 %% Rests in mixed (rests+notes) columns don't obey Rest 'direction = #UP:
 
  {c4 c}\\
  {\override Rest #'direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}
 

 %% wanted output
 
  {c4 c}\\
  {\stemNeutral \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #UP r8 c'' r c''}
 



Greetings,

Just to mention the related discussion on lilypond-user is here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00350.html
While adding this issue to the tracker, it could be useful to add a link
to this discussion.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-11-04 Thread andersvi
 X == Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com writes:

X Greetings,

X Just to mention the related discussion on lilypond-user is here:
X http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2007-06/msg00350.html
X While adding this issue to the tracker, it could be useful to add a link
X to this discussion.

Thanks.  Ive read the exchange from june 2007, which is clearly related.

Related threads:

  http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=384

I cant see what happened to that.  Any news?

And the recent discussion on user:

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-11/msg00014.html

-anders


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Re: bug in rest-placement in polyphonic music

2010-11-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 4 November 2010 18:55,  ander...@notam02.no wrote:

 Thanks.  Ive read the exchange from june 2007, which is clearly
 related.

 Related threads:

  http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=384

 I cant see what happened to that.  Any news?

 And the recent discussion on user:

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-11/msg00014.html


Actually I wanted to link _your_ recent discussion on -user.
But I was a bit in a hurry and I did not check twice the link I put
in my e-mail.

Glad to see it was actually related!

Cheers,
Xavier

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