Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
Ron, details on your AL mast please.

Rick. RH

Sent from my i-Thingamajig

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:20 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> I currently have 5 up;
> 1. VHF/UHF Vertical @ 24' topping an aluminium telescoping mast
> 2. VHF Halo 3 feet below the vertical
> 3. OTA TV antenna 3 feet below the Halo
> 4. The balun for an inverted V OCFD 96' on the long end 36' on the short end 
> directly below the TV antenna with ends run to 10' privacy fence
> 5. The Balun for a 135' end-fed random at 10' run to fence and along the top 
> of the fence all the way around the yard
> 
> So far no issues from the HOA.
> 
> Ron
> KE4DRF
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:01 PM John D via BVARC  wrote:
>> Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
>> antennas in the backyard. 
>> 
>> Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?
>> 
>> W5RDY—John D
>> 
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>> >   3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>> >   4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>> >   5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
>> >   6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
>> >   7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>> > From: Glen Jenkins 
>> > To: BVARC 
>> > Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
>> > From: Mark Brantana 
>> > To: Glen Jenkins ,BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
>> >CLUB 
>> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
>> > Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> > 
>> > Glen
>> > Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
>> > number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
>> > this thing ordered. 
>> > Mark 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> ?
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to 
>> >> start building it.
>> >> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the 
>> >> qrp-labs groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of 
>> >> building and troubleshooting it.
>> >> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
>> >> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor 
>> >> in parallel to C4
>> >> Glen
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> >> 
>> >> BVARC mailing list
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
>> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
>> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
>> > Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
>> > Message-ID: 
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>> > ... what these signals are!??   Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the 
>> > same time
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Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread Ron Bosch via BVARC
I currently have 5 up;
1. VHF/UHF Vertical @ 24' topping an aluminium telescoping mast
2. VHF Halo 3 feet below the vertical
3. OTA TV antenna 3 feet below the Halo
4. The balun for an inverted V OCFD 96' on the long end 36' on the short
end directly below the TV antenna with ends run to 10' privacy fence
5. The Balun for a 135' end-fed random at 10' run to fence and along the
top of the fence all the way around the yard

So far no issues from the HOA.

Ron
KE4DRF

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 12:01 PM John D via BVARC  wrote:

> Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3
> antennas in the backyard.
>
> Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?
>
> W5RDY—John D
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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> >   2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
> >   3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >   4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >   5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
> >   6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
> >   7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
> >   8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
> >   9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> > From: Glen Jenkins 
> > To: BVARC 
> > Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID:
> ><931578767.1198.1609095528...@wamui-tucker.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> > From: Mark Brantana 
> > To: Glen Jenkins ,BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
> >CLUB 
> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Glen
> > Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about
> the number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to
> get this thing ordered.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> Hi,
> >> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to
> start building it.
> >> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the
> qrp-labs groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of
> building and troubleshooting it.
> >> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
> >> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V
> capacitor in parallel to C4
> >> Glen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
> >>
> >> BVARC mailing list
> >> BVARC@bvarc.org
> >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> > Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > ... what these signals are!??   Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the
> same time
> >
> > -- next part --
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:34:42 -0600
> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> > Subject: [BVARC] Fwd: Could somebody tell me
> > Message-ID: <58866f26-1656-40be-b448-6198bb563...@mac.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> > Maybe Hell?
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> >> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> >> Date: December 27, 2020 at 1

Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread Gus Bernard via BVARC
John,
I operate daily in the city, and more than 80% of my operations are MARS,
SHARES and CAP (HF), with the rest divided between ARES/Ham (HF & VHF/UHF)
and CAP (VHF).  I do all of this with only 2 antennas:  A dual-band Comet
GP-6 at 35', and a home-made 130' end-fed inverted L random wire at 25'
(fed through a good tuner and 9:1 unun).

With the GP-6, I reliably hit repeaters as far away as 40-45 miles (i.e.,
Splendora, Richmond, depending on height of the repeater antenna).

With the wire, I reliably (most days) cover a radius of 350-650 miles
(i.e., Slidell, LA, Gage, OK, Carlsbad, NM).  Properly setup for NVIS, you
should be able to hit most of TX (except maybe far west TX (I can't hear El
Paso)) with a random wire.  HF DX is rare at my station, though (during a
contest/exercise) I had a few QSOs with Canadian military stations, and one
with a Peruvian military station.

Some hams have several HF antennas, sometimes one for each band they like
to operate on.  I prefer a compromise antenna (like the end fed wire) that
will work most bands with a tuner.  If you're interested in longer
distance, you might add a 3rd antenna - a vertical.  I'm currently
installing a used Cushcraft R9 at 35'.

Hope this answers your question.

Gus, KG5OFB


On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:01 PM John D via BVARC  wrote:

> Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3
> antennas in the backyard.
>
> Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?
>
> W5RDY—John D
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:00 PM, bvarc-requ...@bvarc.org wrote:
> >
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> >   1. QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Glen Jenkins)
> >   2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
> >   3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >   4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >   5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
> >   6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
> >   7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
> >   8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
> >   9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> > From: Glen Jenkins 
> > To: BVARC 
> > Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID:
> ><931578767.1198.1609095528...@wamui-tucker.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> > From: Mark Brantana 
> > To: Glen Jenkins ,BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
> >CLUB 
> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Glen
> > Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about
> the number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to
> get this thing ordered.
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> Hi,
> >> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to
> start building it.
> >> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the
> qrp-labs groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of
> building and troubleshooting it.
> >> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
> >> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V
> capacitor in parallel to C4
> >> Glen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
> >>
> >> BVARC mailing list
> >> BVARC@bvarc.org
> >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> > Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > ... what these signals are!??   Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the
> same time
> >
> > -- next par

Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread mark janzer via BVARC
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On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 01:50:15 PM CST, mark janzer 
 wrote:  
 
  I gotta share his QRZ page, below (my sister WB9TFF is an SKCC addict). 
Currently, ya'll may remember my daughter Cat, KI5TTY, she's QRV at his QTH 
(she's been on FT8) through Jan. 2nd:
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73MarkK5MGJ

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:21:10 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow!  Sounds like an antenna farm...

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:05 PM, mark janzer via BVARC  wrote:



 My brother-in-law WB9TFH has about 5 (and a tower) on a slightly less than 
1/4 acre lot.
MarkK5MGJ
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:01:23 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
antennas in the backyard. 

Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?

W5RDY—John D

Sent from my iPhone

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>  1. QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Glen Jenkins)
>  2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
>  3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
>  6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
>  7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
>  8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
>  9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Glen Jenkins 
> To: BVARC 
> Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID:
>    <931578767.1198.1609095528...@wamui-tucker.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> From: Mark Brantana 
> To: Glen Jenkins ,    BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
>    CLUB 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Glen
> Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
> number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
> this thing ordered. 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi,
>> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to start 
>> building it.
>> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the qrp-labs 
>> groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of building and 
>> troubleshooting it.
>> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
>> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor in 
>> parallel to C4
>> Glen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> 
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> ... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
> time
> 
> -- next part --
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Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread mark janzer via BVARC
 I gotta share his QRZ page, below (my sister WB9TFF is an SKCC addict). 
Currently, ya'll may remember my daughter Cat, KI5TTY, she's QRV at his QTH 
(she's been on FT8) through Jan. 2nd:
WB9TFH - Callsign Lookup by QRZ Ham Radio

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QRZ Callsign Database Search by QRZ Ham Radio

World's leading amateur radio web site with news, technical articles, 
discussions, practice exams and more.
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73MarkK5MGJ

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:21:10 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Wow!  Sounds like an antenna farm...

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:05 PM, mark janzer via BVARC  wrote:



 My brother-in-law WB9TFH has about 5 (and a tower) on a slightly less than 
1/4 acre lot.
MarkK5MGJ
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:01:23 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
antennas in the backyard. 

Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?

W5RDY—John D

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:00 PM, bvarc-requ...@bvarc.org wrote:
> 
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> Today's Topics:
> 
>  1. QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Glen Jenkins)
>  2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
>  3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
>  6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
>  7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
>  8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
>  9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Glen Jenkins 
> To: BVARC 
> Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> From: Mark Brantana 
> To: Glen Jenkins ,    BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
>    CLUB 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Glen
> Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
> number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
> this thing ordered. 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi,
>> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to start 
>> building it.
>> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the qrp-labs 
>> groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of building and 
>> troubleshooting it.
>> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
>> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor in 
>> parallel to C4
>> Glen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> 
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> ... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
> time
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:34:42 -0600
> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Fwd: Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: <58866f26-1656-40be-b448-6198bb563...@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Maybe Hell?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded 

[BVARC] QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread Mark via BVARC
Mark, 

Lets start of with qualifications: 

Member of NAQCC   

  http://naqcc.info/contests.html 

Received - 1st place in W5 div Jan 2015 SWA Bug  

Built  ATS-3and enter competition   ARS Spartan Sprint 


---


The conditions were bad for the December Sprint NAQCC  - unable to make
1 contact  


Last Wednesday night I called CQ and heard a couple of weak stations I
could not work. 


Later I found out Will  Ki4POV did call - I just could not hear the "1
watt " signal.  

MY antenna for 40m is a dipole up 17'  

--- 

Being a ham for many years I have rigs that are collecting dust. 

   FT900  -   

TS 440  

And an amplifier - not solid state or QSK. 


So before you spend money - do ask so you can make a decision based on
data. 

-- 

Just out of curiosity what is you CW skill?


Mark
Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club

BVARC mailing list
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Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread John D via BVARC
Wow!  Sounds like an antenna farm...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:05 PM, mark janzer via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> My brother-in-law WB9TFH has about 5 (and a tower) on a slightly less than 
> 1/4 acre lot.
> 
> Mark
> K5MGJ
> 
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:01:23 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
> antennas in the backyard. 
> 
> Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?
> 
> W5RDY—John D
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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> >  2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
> >  3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >  4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
> >  5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
> >  6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
> >  7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
> >  8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
> >  9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> > From: Glen Jenkins 
> > To: BVARC 
> > Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID:
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> > From: Mark Brantana 
> > To: Glen Jenkins ,BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
> >CLUB 
> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> > Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Glen
> > Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
> > number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
> > this thing ordered. 
> > Mark 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> ?
> >> Hi,
> >> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to 
> >> start building it.
> >> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the qrp-labs 
> >> groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of building 
> >> and troubleshooting it.
> >> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
> >> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor 
> >> in parallel to C4
> >> Glen
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
> >> 
> >> BVARC mailing list
> >> BVARC@bvarc.org
> >> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> > Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > ... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
> > time
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> > --
> > 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:34:42 -0600
> > From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> > To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> > Subject: [BVARC] Fwd: Could somebody tell me
> > Message-ID: <58866f26-1656-40be-b448-6198bb563...@mac.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Maybe Hell?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > 
> >> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> >> Date: December 27, 2020 at 14:32:42 CST
> >> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> >> Subject: Could somebody tell me
> >> 
> >> ?... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on 

Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread mark janzer via BVARC
 My brother-in-law WB9TFH has about 5 (and a tower) on a slightly less than 1/4 
acre lot.
MarkK5MGJ
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 12:01:23 PM CST, John D via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
antennas in the backyard. 

Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?

W5RDY—John D

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:00 PM, bvarc-requ...@bvarc.org wrote:
> 
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>  2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
>  3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>  5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
>  6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
>  7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
>  8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
>  9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Glen Jenkins 
> To: BVARC 
> Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID:
>    <931578767.1198.1609095528...@wamui-tucker.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> From: Mark Brantana 
> To: Glen Jenkins ,    BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
>    CLUB 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Glen
> Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
> number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
> this thing ordered. 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi,
>> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to start 
>> building it.
>> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the qrp-labs 
>> groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of building and 
>> troubleshooting it.
>> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
>> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor in 
>> parallel to C4
>> Glen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> 
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:32:23 -0600
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> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> ... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
> time
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:34:42 -0600
> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Fwd: Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: <58866f26-1656-40be-b448-6198bb563...@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Maybe Hell?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
>> Date: December 27, 2020 at 14:32:42 CST
>> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
>> Subject: Could somebody tell me
>> 
>> ?... what these signals are!??  Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
>> time
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [BVARC] Antenna Question

2020-12-29 Thread John D via BVARC
Planning on adding antenna for VHF/UHF and NViS. That would mean having 3 
antennas in the backyard. 

Is this normal for hams to have this many antennas?

W5RDY—John D

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 12:00 PM, bvarc-requ...@bvarc.org wrote:
> 
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> Today's Topics:
> 
>   1. QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Glen Jenkins)
>   2. Re: QRP-Labs QCX-mini (Mark Brantana)
>   3. Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>   4. Fwd: Could somebody tell me (DAVID M GRAY JR)
>   5. Re: Fwd: Could somebody tell me (Doug Seyler)
>   6. Re: Could somebody tell me (Will Gray)
>   7. Re: Could somebody tell me (Roy Storey)
>   8. BVARC NEWS BLAST #42 201228 (Rick Hiller)
>   9. HL1KKC YouTube Channel (Glenn Anderson)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 12:58:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: Glen Jenkins 
> To: BVARC 
> Subject: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID:
><931578767.1198.1609095528...@wamui-tucker.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:47:11 -0600
> From: Mark Brantana 
> To: Glen Jenkins ,BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
>CLUB 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] QRP-Labs QCX-mini
> Message-ID: <972bebbf-0fda-45a4-8d8c-ae1f7b852...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Glen
> Whew! I know you will be a good resource. I am a little nervous about the 
> number of components to solder. Thank you for the note. Time for me to get 
> this thing ordered. 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Glen Jenkins via BVARC  wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi,
>> I received my QCX-mini for 20meters on Thursday Dec 24 and have yet to start 
>> building it.
>> I strongly suggest that anyone starting this kit subscribe to the qrp-labs 
>> groups.io site for hourly (almost) updates on the in & outs of building and 
>> troubleshooting it.
>> qrpl...@groups.io group at Groups.io
>> There is one important add to the kit to install a new 10uf 25V capacitor in 
>> parallel to C4
>> Glen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>> 
>> BVARC mailing list
>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> ... what these signals are!??   Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
> time
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 14:34:42 -0600
> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
> Subject: [BVARC] Fwd: Could somebody tell me
> Message-ID: <58866f26-1656-40be-b448-6198bb563...@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Maybe Hell?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: DAVID M GRAY JR 
>> Date: December 27, 2020 at 14:32:42 CST
>> To: bvarc@bvarc.org
>> Subject: Could somebody tell me
>> 
>> ?... what these signals are!??   Around 14074 MHz  Go on and off at the same 
>> time
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [BVARC] BVARC Club Activity - was To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread terry leatherland via BVARC
I now use the MFJ version of this wire antenna. Works great. One of the 1st 
contacts was Germany on 40M one night @500W. Amazing. Mine is good into 
Southern hemisphere a lot now.

Terry Leatherland, K5PGF281-455-8090Sugar Land, Tx
 

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 11:18:03 AM CST, Rick Hiller via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 Sounds fun.  I'm in for one for the lake house.Rick  W5RH

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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM mark janzer via BVARC  wrote:

 If there is enough interest, we could pull together a session for members to 
build their own 40m or 80m EFHW antenna, for the BVARC January 23rd Club 
Activity morning at the Bayland Park Community Center. The design would be this 
(credit to Rick Hiller for the reference):
19-End+Fed+Half+Wave.pdf (squarespace.com)

EFHW Antenna --- Building The Transformer - YouTube


The parts are locally sourced (JPM Supply and Home Depot), either triple or 
dual core unun (240-43), and the entire assemblage would cost roughly $60-$70. 
We'd use the 43 material for the cores, vs. 52 - to reduce the cost. The 43 
cores are readily available from JPM Supply.Members would reserve ahead 
(pre-pay via Paypal) once a parts list is fully generated.
The antenna parts would be brought to the session, box pre-drilled, and a 
nanoVNA would be present for preliminary testing.
73MarkK5MGJ

 On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 03:21:34 AM CST, Mark Brantana via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 RonI do have a NanoVNA, and I like the dipole thought. The EFHW design has a 
match. Basically a toroid. I will likely experiment with both antennas.Thank 
you. 73.Mark N5PRD 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:



And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
shots at doing so :-)

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:

Mark,A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.1.  I wasn't 
saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You will be limited to 
when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low at the receiving 
antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts by at least an 
order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is better than 
operating nothing.
2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid with 
that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me would be 
a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna analyzer.3.  
Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to making 
contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of the city to 
operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get my dipole at 
33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of contacts.  
4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA to 
make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP kit 
includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your build, 
although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 wave dipole 
instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part with for the rock 
bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 in this email, net due 
is $0.00 :-)

RonKE4DRF

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC  
wrote:

I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on HF, 
and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not including 
antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I already have 
coax installed. Grand total: $565

Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am short 
on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I find I can 
buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build an EFHW antenna 
for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand Total: $110

Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel that
1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.

Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the generally 
negative comments form our net were as follows:
1. The ban

Re: [BVARC] BVARC Club Activity - was To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
Sounds fun.  I'm in for one for the lake house.Rick  W5RH


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On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:55 AM mark janzer via BVARC 
wrote:

> If there is enough interest, we could pull together a session for members
> to build their own 40m or 80m EFHW antenna, for the BVARC January 23rd
> Club Activity morning at the Bayland Park Community Center. The design
> would be this (credit to Rick Hiller for the reference):
>
> 19-End+Fed+Half+Wave.pdf (squarespace.com)
> 
>
> EFHW Antenna --- Building The Transformer - YouTube
> 
>
>
> The parts are locally sourced (JPM Supply and Home Depot), either triple
> or dual core unun (240-43), and the entire assemblage would cost roughly
> $60-$70. We'd use the 43 material for the cores, vs. 52 - to reduce the
> cost. The 43 cores are readily available from JPM Supply.
> Members would reserve ahead (pre-pay via Paypal) once a parts list is
> fully generated.
>
> The antenna parts would be brought to the session, box pre-drilled, and a
> nanoVNA would be present for preliminary testing.
>
> 73
> Mark
> K5MGJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 03:21:34 AM CST, Mark Brantana via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
>
> Ron
> I do have a NanoVNA, and I like the dipole thought. The EFHW design has a
> match. Basically a toroid. I will likely experiment with both antennas.
> Thank you. 73.
> Mark
> N5PRD
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:
>
> 
> And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the
> 02:22 ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more
> realistic shots at doing so :-)
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:
>
> Mark,
> A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.
> 1.  I wasn't saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You
> will be limited to when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low
> at the receiving antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential
> contacts by at least an order of magnitude.  That being said, operating
> anything is better than operating nothing.
> 2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a
> matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an
> end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and
> variable caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on
> conditions due to reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in
> the circuit, and cut the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to
> operate, and the toroid with that much permeability probably ain't cheap.
> A better approach to me would be a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating
> height with an antenna analyzer.
> 3.  Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the
> antenna compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of
> issues to making contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the
> rig out of the city to operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and
> such to get my dipole at 33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my
> chances of contacts.
> 4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano
> VNA to make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a
> QRP kit includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to
> your build, although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a
> 1/2 wave dipole instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can
> part with for the rock bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my
> $0.02 in this email, net due is $0.00 :-)
>
> Ron
> KE4DRF
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on
> HF, and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not
> including antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I
> already have coax installed. Grand total: $565
>
> Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am
> short on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I
> find I can buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build
> an EFHW antenna for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand
> Total: $110
>
> Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel
> that
> 1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the
> inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
> 2.

[BVARC] BVARC Club Activity - was To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread mark janzer via BVARC
 If there is enough interest, we could pull together a session for members to 
build their own 40m or 80m EFHW antenna, for the BVARC January 23rd Club 
Activity morning at the Bayland Park Community Center. The design would be this 
(credit to Rick Hiller for the reference):
19-End+Fed+Half+Wave.pdf (squarespace.com)

EFHW Antenna --- Building The Transformer - YouTube


The parts are locally sourced (JPM Supply and Home Depot), either triple or 
dual core unun (240-43), and the entire assemblage would cost roughly $60-$70. 
We'd use the 43 material for the cores, vs. 52 - to reduce the cost. The 43 
cores are readily available from JPM Supply.Members would reserve ahead 
(pre-pay via Paypal) once a parts list is fully generated.
The antenna parts would be brought to the session, box pre-drilled, and a 
nanoVNA would be present for preliminary testing.
73MarkK5MGJ

 On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 03:21:34 AM CST, Mark Brantana via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 RonI do have a NanoVNA, and I like the dipole thought. The EFHW design has a 
match. Basically a toroid. I will likely experiment with both antennas.Thank 
you. 73.Mark N5PRD 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:



And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
shots at doing so :-)

On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:

Mark,A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.1.  I wasn't 
saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You will be limited to 
when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low at the receiving 
antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts by at least an 
order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is better than 
operating nothing.
2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid with 
that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me would be 
a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna analyzer.3.  
Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to making 
contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of the city to 
operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get my dipole at 
33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of contacts.  
4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA to 
make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP kit 
includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your build, 
although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 wave dipole 
instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part with for the rock 
bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 in this email, net due 
is $0.00 :-)

RonKE4DRF

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC  
wrote:

I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on HF, 
and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not including 
antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I already have 
coax installed. Grand total: $565

Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am short 
on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I find I can 
buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build an EFHW antenna 
for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand Total: $110

Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel that
1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.

Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the generally 
negative comments form our net were as follows:
1. The band is poor at this time.
2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not 
suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back to 
spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying that 
even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note that QRP 
sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.

Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP experience to 
share their thoughts. I

[BVARC] NAsa 2M Net tonight - highlight the space station communications for Slow scan tv

2020-12-29 Thread terry leatherland via BVARC
BVARC, My apologies, Last night on the 2M net I forgot to call upon Jay , 
KG5LJZ, from the Clear Lake NASA W5RRR radio club. Jay was to highlight the 
NASA group net tonight on 2M 146.64  (tone 123) that will discuss the various 
ways on 2M comms with the Space Station.I will also be a guest to start a 
conversation on Stealth HOA antenna experiences as I hosted in the net last 
week on BVARC .94.If you can listen to the 146.64 repeater tonight at 7pm, it 
should be interesting.
Cheers & 73sTerry
Terry Leatherland, K5PGF281-455-8090Sugar Land, Tx

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Re: [BVARC] To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread Chris Luppens via BVARC
So you get picture? 

Typos Compliments of iPhone
Chris Luppens


> On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
> ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
> shots at doing so :-)
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:
>> Mark,
>> A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.
>> 1.  I wasn't saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You 
>> will be limited to when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low 
>> at the receiving antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts 
>> by at least an order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is 
>> better than operating nothing.
>> 2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
>> matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
>> end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
>> caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
>> reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
>> the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid 
>> with that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me 
>> would be a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna 
>> analyzer.
>> 3.  Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
>> compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to 
>> making contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of 
>> the city to operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get 
>> my dipole at 33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of 
>> contacts.  
>> 4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA 
>> to make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP 
>> kit includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your 
>> build, although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 
>> wave dipole instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part 
>> with for the rock bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 
>> in this email, net due is $0.00 :-)
>> 
>> Ron
>> KE4DRF
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on 
>>> HF, and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not 
>>> including antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I 
>>> already have coax installed. Grand total: $565
>>> 
>>> Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am 
>>> short on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I 
>>> find I can buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build 
>>> an EFHW antenna for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand 
>>> Total: $110
>>> 
>>> Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel 
>>> that
>>> 1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
>>> inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
>>> 2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.
>>> 
>>> Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
>>> part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the 
>>> generally negative comments form our net were as follows:
>>> 1. The band is poor at this time.
>>> 2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not 
>>> suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back 
>>> to spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying 
>>> that even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note 
>>> that QRP sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.
>>> 
>>> Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP experience 
>>> to share their thoughts. I thought I had this all figured out, but if I am 
>>> going down a wrong road, I need to know. What has been your experience with 
>>> 20-m QRP?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> N5PRD
>>> 
>>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>> 
>>> BVARC mailing list
>>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
> 
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Re: [BVARC] To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread Mark Brantana via BVARC
Ron
I do have a NanoVNA, and I like the dipole thought. The EFHW design has a 
match. Basically a toroid. I will likely experiment with both antennas.
Thank you. 73.
Mark 
N5PRD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
> ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
> shots at doing so :-)
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:
>> Mark,
>> A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.
>> 1.  I wasn't saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You 
>> will be limited to when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low 
>> at the receiving antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts 
>> by at least an order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is 
>> better than operating nothing.
>> 2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
>> matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
>> end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
>> caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
>> reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
>> the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid 
>> with that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me 
>> would be a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna 
>> analyzer.
>> 3.  Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
>> compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to 
>> making contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of 
>> the city to operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get 
>> my dipole at 33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of 
>> contacts.  
>> 4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA 
>> to make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP 
>> kit includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your 
>> build, although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 
>> wave dipole instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part 
>> with for the rock bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 
>> in this email, net due is $0.00 :-)
>> 
>> Ron
>> KE4DRF
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on 
>>> HF, and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not 
>>> including antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I 
>>> already have coax installed. Grand total: $565
>>> 
>>> Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am 
>>> short on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I 
>>> find I can buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build 
>>> an EFHW antenna for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand 
>>> Total: $110
>>> 
>>> Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel 
>>> that
>>> 1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
>>> inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
>>> 2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.
>>> 
>>> Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
>>> part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the 
>>> generally negative comments form our net were as follows:
>>> 1. The band is poor at this time.
>>> 2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not 
>>> suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back 
>>> to spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying 
>>> that even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note 
>>> that QRP sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.
>>> 
>>> Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP experience 
>>> to share their thoughts. I thought I had this all figured out, but if I am 
>>> going down a wrong road, I need to know. What has been your experience with 
>>> 20-m QRP?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> N5PRD
>>> 
>>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>> 
>>> BVARC mailing list
>>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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Re: [BVARC] To QRP or not to QRP

2020-12-29 Thread Mark Brantana via BVARC
Thank you, Jeff,
QSL on all you have said. (I meant to say ‘87. Though I had fixed that typo. ) 
I was out of the hobby for about 20 years, though. I have not done CW before. 
Tried it once back then, and got blown off the dance floor at 5 WPM😎. 
73
Mark 
N5PRD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Ron Bosch via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> 
> And so everyone knows why I am up so darned late, I am waiting for the 02:22 
> ISS pass to download a stinking picture since I only have 2 more realistic 
> shots at doing so :-)
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 1:43 AM Ron Bosch  wrote:
>> Mark,
>> A few points that I couldn't make on the net, because of time.
>> 1.  I wasn't saying don't do it, just don't expect a bunch of QSO's.  You 
>> will be limited to when the band is really open, and the noise floor is low 
>> at the receiving antenna.  That will reduce the number of potential contacts 
>> by at least an order of magnitude.  That being said, operating anything is 
>> better than operating nothing.
>> 2.  IMHO, and end fed antenna is not a good choice unless you also build a 
>> matching bridge.  You can't expect to maintain an exact 50-ohm load from an 
>> end-fed with just a toroid, you also need some shunt resistors, and variable 
>> caps, and such, and you will need to tune it depending on conditions due to 
>> reactance unless you built-in a big enough reactance in the circuit, and cut 
>> the end-fed to exactly 1/2 wave where you want to operate, and the toroid 
>> with that much permeability probably ain't cheap.  A better approach to me 
>> would be a 20M 1/2 wave dipole trimmed at operating height with an antenna 
>> analyzer.
>> 3.  Doing this in the city, with the amount of interference, and the antenna 
>> compromises we have to make seems to add a whole other set of issues to 
>> making contacts.  If I were to do it, I might plan to take the rig out of 
>> the city to operate it, and get the advantage of using trees and such to get 
>> my dipole at 33 feet up, with a low noise floor to increase my chances of 
>> contacts.  
>> 4.  In any event, I suspect you are really going to need at least a Nano VNA 
>> to make sure you don't smoke the finals, since I doubt seriously that a QRP 
>> kit includes protection circuitry.  That will add a minimum of $50 to your 
>> build, although you would save a bunch on the antenna if you built a 1/2 
>> wave dipole instead.  Heck, I have an extra 1:1 current balun I can part 
>> with for the rock bottom price of $0.02, and since I am including my $0.02 
>> in this email, net due is $0.00 :-)
>> 
>> Ron
>> KE4DRF
>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:44 PM Mark Brantana via BVARC  
>>> wrote:
>>> I thought I had things all figured out. I originally wanted to get back on 
>>> HF, and found I could get some great used equipment for about $400, not 
>>> including antenna. Add a 10-80 m antenna from MyAntenna for around $165. I 
>>> already have coax installed. Grand total: $565
>>> 
>>> Normally, this cost would not be an issue, but like so many others I am 
>>> short on funds due to CV-19, so it is a bad time for this expenditure. I 
>>> find I can buy a 20-m QRP Labs CW mini with case for about $90, and build 
>>> an EFHW antenna for another $20 (including the matching toroid). Grand 
>>> Total: $110
>>> 
>>> Everything has its advantages though. A ham since ’78, that’s 1987, I feel 
>>> that
>>> 1. this would force me to improve my almost forgotten code without the 
>>> inevitable distraction of voice alternatives,
>>> 2. this would give me a chance to build a full small project and antenna.
>>> 
>>> Today, though, some felt that this setup would lead to disappointment on my 
>>> part. I am fully aware there will be some limitations to QRP, but the 
>>> generally negative comments form our net were as follows:
>>> 1. The band is poor at this time.
>>> 2. The 4-5 Watt QRP would not get in, and even a 100 Watt unit would not 
>>> suffice, but needs to be about 500 Watts. This would lead me to need back 
>>> to spending at least $565, and more for an amplifier. (So we are now saying 
>>> that even a typical 100 Watt radio is insufficient?) (I would also note 
>>> that QRP sells a 50 W amplifier for this radio as an add on.
>>> 
>>> Experience counts. So, I am looking for my fellow hams with QRP experience 
>>> to share their thoughts. I thought I had this all figured out, but if I am 
>>> going down a wrong road, I need to know. What has been your experience with 
>>> 20-m QRP?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> N5PRD
>>> 
>>> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
>>> 
>>> BVARC mailing list
>>> BVARC@bvarc.org
>>> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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