Yamn!!! Once again something so easy turns into political hell. So
Sad.
Personally, I don't care whether Daniel is "officially" recognized or
not, I'll still be reading his blog.
BTW, Symfony allows people to just add their own blogs ;)
http://trac.symfony-project.com/wiki/SymfonyBloggers. Plus their blog
summarizes everything.
On Jun 3, 5:29 pm, Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My blog is not an "official blog", it just happens to be my blog, and
> I happen to be the lead developer of this project.
>
> In response to these and any further comments, I'll refer everyone to
> my previous posts. Specifically:
>
> (1) "... I have no wish to support such a person by consciously
> allowing him to benefit from my personal efforts and those of my
> friends and teammates."
>
> and
>
> (2) "Part of being an adult is dealing with it and moving on even if
> you disagree, rather than continuing to argue even though it'll get
> you nowhere."
>
> On Jun 3, 4:20 pm, villas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > @Nate
> > My original point was not really about your blog and I wouldn't have
> > mentioned it at all if you hadn't unfairly started singling out
> > CakeBaker's less successful postings (as compared to his large number
> > of excellent ones).
>
> > However, surely no one can help noticing the obvious discrepancy
> > between the quality which is acceptable to the Cake Team as an
> > official blog, as compared to CakeBaker's blog. It's like the
> > Emperors Got No Clothes, but no one would like to say.
>
> > Clearly anyone who uses Cake must have gratitude for your hard work.
> > However, how can a discussion about the quality of the community blog
> > roll just be your own 'personal matter'. Surely the entire Cake
> > project transcends that, doesn't it?
>
> > My original point was straight-forward enough: why not put the best
> > blogs on the list. If the Cake team cannot put their personal reasons
> > aside to bring themselves to agree with such an obvious proposition,
> > then it's a shame.
>
> > @All. Of course it is rather disappointing that such an enthusiastic
> > blogger is not encouraged officially. However, as Nate has
> > intimated, those that enjoy Cakebaker's posts can simply continue to
> > visit and encourage him over on his blog site. As, of course, we
> > must encourage all those that spend their time working on and writing
> > about Cake, and especially for the excellent work done recently by
> > those contributing to the Book. Thanks guys.
>
> > On Jun 3, 7:03 pm, Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > (1) I'll post whatever I want on my own blog, whether it has anything
> > > to do with Cake or not (the last few posts really don't). I'll
> > > continue to do so, because I don't owe you anything. And nothing I've
> > > ever posted has anything to do with Daniel directly (probably not
> > > indirectly either).
>
> > > (2) Am I raining down fire and brimstone here on this mailing list?
> > > No.
>
> > > (3) Dissent is great, my problem is the attitude in which it is
> > > expressed.
>
> > > (4) This is a personal matter, and I'll keep my own counsel on how to
> > > handle it and "build community" (See my previous comment regarding
> > > other peoples' opinions on the issue [i.e. I don't care]).
>
> > > On Jun 3, 1:56 pm, villas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > @nate
> > > > To sum up the absurdity of your own position, look no further than
> > > > your own blog which boasts three posts in over a year.
>
> > > > Example: http://cake.insertdesignhere.com/posts/view/19
> > > > "No One Really Cares. Come on people, it's just blogging. You're not
> > > > writing the next Dan Brown thriller. Quit over-analyzing and post it
> > > > already. Just throwing that out there."
>
> > > > IMO Cakebaker is much more thoughtful than just "throwing it out".
> > > > But, in any case, why wouldn't he be allowed to express questionable
> > > > personal opinions and make mistakes? Let the one who has never been
> > > > argumentative or made a mistake, cast the first stone. It certainly
> > > > shouldn't be you!
>
> > > > Your next post is no doubt a fascinating insight into Cake, the
> > > > "Greater Internet F**kwad Theory". To be honest, I couldn't even
> > > > make myself click into that one. I suppose you think this warrants
> > > > your own presence on the blog list just because it's your blog and
> > > > what you say is always good and right? Give us a break.
>
> > > > How do you expect to build any sense of friendly community with such
> > > > fire and brimstone raining down from the top! For goodness sake,
> > > > chill out and allow people to speak their minds and dissent a little
> > > > (maybe half as much as you allow yourself would be fine).
>
> > > > You make a massive contribution to Cake. However, CakeBaker is also,
> > > > in his own individualistic way, making some contribution too. Cut the
> > > > guy some slack.
>
> > > > On Jun 3, 5:43 pm, Nate <[EMAIL PRO
