Re: New to PHP
Hi Rakesh I too would like to welcome you to the wonderful world of all things PHP. I can understand your confusion at all the different terminology and other 'stuff' that seems to surround it. I think you've made the right choice by deciding to learn PHP. PHP as a language is a huge beast (IMHO) and even though I've been writing PHP apps in one form or another for some years there's no way I know it all. Fortunately there's very good online documentation at php.net. On too some of the other things. As PHP has developed over the years the people writing apps using PHP found that they were doing the same sorts of things over and over again in the same way and out of this has arisen a number of development frameworks, of which CakePHP is one and Zend (you mentioned) is another. Code-Igniter is yet another framework. These take some of the hard work out of developing an app by providing you with facilities that interact with the database and generate the web output. All you have to do is to call a few functions. However, it's true, that these too have to be learned. So where does that leave your learning curve? When I first started writing in PHP I wrote purely in PHP. This was in the days before I became aware of development frameworks. I even wrote an entire CMS system in PHP before I found out there were things like Joomla! However I learned a lot about PHP in doing it and this has helped as I've started to pick up CakePHP. If you've developed some familiarity with the PHP language then I suggest you start with the blog tutorial in the cookbook section of the CakePHP documentation. This is a great intro to Cake. You'll sometimes find employers looking for one framework or another; but I think the important thing id to have a good knowledge of PHP and a good understanding of at least one framework and how to construct an MVC application. Once you've experience of one framework and developing in an MVC environment you can transfer those skills to other development frameworks. Regards David On Aug 25, 3:14 am, Rakesh P wrote: > Hi guys, > Just struck up in the middle of php cross roads. I will list out my > problem any help is much appreciated. > > Just recently I started learing php and designed a small dynamic > website using php to keep in my resume with own guest book, admin > privilages, normal users and a shopping cart etc. and now ready for > looking for jobs. > > Everytime I search for jobs on php I hear a new term like LAMP/CAKE/ > ZEND etc. It really scares and annoys me that some other work is still > pending. If I google up all those terminology looks same but varies in > some properties like linux and rubyon rails imitation & frameworks > etc...and spending most of my time in learning theese conceptes but > not in applying the jobs. > > But out of interest could any one please advice me how to learn php > perfectly like which modules should I have to concentrate basically > and what next? > > Also could any one please clear this. What is MVC in cake php. After > reading the documentation, I understood that seperating the code > individually into different pieces of code like Business layers in dot > net. Please clarify this. > > M really drowning in the pool of confusions. Any help is much > appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to PHP
Hi Rakesh, First of all welcome to world of PHP. U can start learning PHP by referring the following sites:- 1)http://php.net/ 2)http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp As far as ur question on MVC.MVC is an abbreviation that stands for Model,Views and Controller.This is a 3 tier architecture for developing a project.The Cake,Zend etc are the framework which uses this 3 tier architecture. Now i think u wud have known the answer which u wanted to knw. Thanks & Regards Chandresh Modi On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Rakesh P wrote: > > > Hi guys, > Just struck up in the middle of php cross roads. I will list out my > problem any help is much appreciated. > > Just recently I started learing php and designed a small dynamic > website using php to keep in my resume with own guest book, admin > privilages, normal users and a shopping cart etc. and now ready for > looking for jobs. > > Everytime I search for jobs on php I hear a new term like LAMP/CAKE/ > ZEND etc. It really scares and annoys me that some other work is still > pending. If I google up all those terminology looks same but varies in > some properties like linux and rubyon rails imitation & frameworks > etc...and spending most of my time in learning theese conceptes but > not in applying the jobs. > > But out of interest could any one please advice me how to learn php > perfectly like which modules should I have to concentrate basically > and what next? > > Also could any one please clear this. What is MVC in cake php. After > reading the documentation, I understood that seperating the code > individually into different pieces of code like Business layers in dot > net. Please clarify this. > > M really drowning in the pool of confusions. Any help is much > appreciated. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New to PHP
Hi guys, Just struck up in the middle of php cross roads. I will list out my problem any help is much appreciated. Just recently I started learing php and designed a small dynamic website using php to keep in my resume with own guest book, admin privilages, normal users and a shopping cart etc. and now ready for looking for jobs. Everytime I search for jobs on php I hear a new term like LAMP/CAKE/ ZEND etc. It really scares and annoys me that some other work is still pending. If I google up all those terminology looks same but varies in some properties like linux and rubyon rails imitation & frameworks etc...and spending most of my time in learning theese conceptes but not in applying the jobs. But out of interest could any one please advice me how to learn php perfectly like which modules should I have to concentrate basically and what next? Also could any one please clear this. What is MVC in cake php. After reading the documentation, I understood that seperating the code individually into different pieces of code like Business layers in dot net. Please clarify this. M really drowning in the pool of confusions. Any help is much appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to PHP - Want to Create Blog From Scratch
I just finished an exercise as the one you proposed, I suggest you to look this tutorial: http://book.cakephp.org/view/219/blog but once you finish it for the first time, try to do it again, by yourself and usign this: http://book.cakephp.org/view/113/code-generation-with-bake. I have using PHP for years, and after a lot of efforts I found - first in ATK an now - in Cake a really fast an good way for develop new apps. About the mixture between (X)HTML and PHP you can use an excellent alternative called Smarty, you can find more info here: http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/the-cakephp-blog-tutorial-with-smarty Good luck and welcome to the exciting world of PHP evolved (Cake) ;-) On Jul 10, 1:22 pm, ToxicInflux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone. I am new to the CakePHP discussion group, and also to > PHP. I want to start my own blog, but I dont want to use a system > such as WordPress. I feel this is a good way to introduce myself to > PHP, CMS, etc. > > I've been reading various sites, and from what I see most have me > including snippets of PHP code throughout my XHTML ... this seems kind > of dirty to me. Can anyone recommend a good blog tutorial, or any > resources where I could learn? > > One site I've found somewhat useful > ishttp://www.imneebu.com/2007/11/08/building-a-weblog-with-php-mysql-pa..., > though it still has you mixing PHP in with all of your HTML content. > Does this seem like a decent tutorial for learning the mechanics of a > blog and how to create one in PHP? > > Thanks in advance for the help > ToxicInflux --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New to PHP - Want to Create Blog From Scratch
Well, since this is a CakePHP discussion group . . you could try this one http://book.cakephp.org/view/219/blog On Jul 10, 2:22 pm, ToxicInflux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello everyone. I am new to the CakePHP discussion group, and also to > PHP. I want to start my own blog, but I dont want to use a system > such as WordPress. I feel this is a good way to introduce myself to > PHP, CMS, etc. > > I've been reading various sites, and from what I see most have me > including snippets of PHP code throughout my XHTML ... this seems kind > of dirty to me. Can anyone recommend a good blog tutorial, or any > resources where I could learn? > > One site I've found somewhat useful > ishttp://www.imneebu.com/2007/11/08/building-a-weblog-with-php-mysql-pa..., > though it still has you mixing PHP in with all of your HTML content. > Does this seem like a decent tutorial for learning the mechanics of a > blog and how to create one in PHP? > > Thanks in advance for the help > ToxicInflux --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New to PHP - Want to Create Blog From Scratch
Hello everyone. I am new to the CakePHP discussion group, and also to PHP. I want to start my own blog, but I dont want to use a system such as WordPress. I feel this is a good way to introduce myself to PHP, CMS, etc. I've been reading various sites, and from what I see most have me including snippets of PHP code throughout my XHTML ... this seems kind of dirty to me. Can anyone recommend a good blog tutorial, or any resources where I could learn? One site I've found somewhat useful is http://www.imneebu.com/2007/11/08/building-a-weblog-with-php-mysql-part-i/, though it still has you mixing PHP in with all of your HTML content. Does this seem like a decent tutorial for learning the mechanics of a blog and how to create one in PHP? Thanks in advance for the help ToxicInflux --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: "New" to PHP
First of all, no, you don't *have* to use Cake (or even PHP) just because you install one or both of them on your server. Your best bet, before diving right into Cake, is to find a good intro book to PHP programming. Here's a good place to start: http://www.oreilly.com/pub/topic/php --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
"New" to PHP
Hello guys, I programmed in php for over 2 years, but had to stop due to some problems, stoped for over a year. Now that im finally starting back, i came across cake php, and i want to know if its a good idea to use it, without a good knowledg in php. I would start from the beggining, doing small things... Also, i would like to know if i can still program normally afer installing cakephp on my server, or if ill HAVE to use it everytime im programming. I hope i made myself clear, and that you guys can answer my questions fast. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
