Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-19 Thread leo


> Quote 
> fromhttp://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1
>
> "
> To help ensure that applications are secure with no extra effort on
> the part of the developer, we have moved all operators used in
> conditions to the "key" side. For example, $conditions =
> array('Model.field >' => $value); is the new syntax.
> "
>
> That pretty much sums up all the changes regarding SQL operators in RC1

I know, I've seen it, I've read it, but my question, for all  the
other changes that don't appear in that document, was, and still is,
"Where do I find the release notes?".
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-19 Thread theChrisWalker


> You would have to be beyond the need for release notes to extrapolate
> this comment from that document:
>
> >> Please read the release notes regarding LIKE and other SQL operators.
> >> That should be:
>
> >> $conditions = array("or"=>(array(
>
> >> 'edifici LIKE %?%' => $searchText,
> >> 'adreca LIKE %?%' => $searchText
> >> )));
>

Quote from 
http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1

"
To help ensure that applications are secure with no extra effort on
the part of the developer, we have moved all operators used in
conditions to the "key" side. For example, $conditions =
array('Model.field >' => $value); is the new syntax.
"

That pretty much sums up all the changes regarding SQL operators in RC1
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-19 Thread leo

> When the trunk is updated there has been an announcement made here on
> the list as well as the bakery.  The latest announcement, a link to
> which is posted here and on the main page of the cakephp site...

That's okay if you were looking when the link was posted or if you
know where else to look just in case you weren't looking.
Centralization of information is what I'm looking for, rather than
spend days wading through hundreds of pages of:

* Disproving ticket, see #4709
 Revision: [7113]

* adding test cases showing usage of showParents in form helper,
closes #4831
 Revision: [7112]

> I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand what you think "release notes"
> should be.  Maybe you need to explain what it is you think release
> notes should be

It's not so much what I _think_ they should be. It's more what they
have been for the last twenty years that I have been programming. Type
'release notes' into Google and you'll see, from the first five
entries, how structured, easy to read and informative they can be.
Okay, these examples are a little dressed up, but good examples,
nevertheless.

It wasn't me who said "the release notes", it was Mariano. I was just
asking, generally, where to find them ("the release notes"). Of course
I'm aware of all the other links you've posted, but the implication in
Mariano's statement was that there was an actual document - "the
release notes".
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Maybe, but they don't make easy bedtime reading - they're just lists
> of bugfixes and enhancements.

Lol, no, not bedtime reading, but as someone who's been using the
branch forever, I ( and I shit you not ) check those two links every
morning in the 10 minutes while I wait for my carpool as well as skim
through the digest from this group.  It helps keep me up to date and
doesn't take much time.  As an incredibly useful tool that helps me
make a living it's a minimal bit of effort on my part.  Is it always
obvious? Not always, but the commit comments are generally pretty damn
good.  Do I wish there was a nicely formatted, document outlining the
changes, fixes, deprecations and todo list of things that take me by
the hand so I don't have to think? Sure, would make my life easier
still, but I don't expect it in the slightest as I can get that from
the two links I've posted and more specific deprecation information
from http://api.cakephp.org/1.2/deprecated.html

When the trunk is updated there has been an announcement made here on
the list as well as the bakery.  The latest announcement, a link to
which is posted here and on the main page of the cakephp site, deals
specifically with the issue that spawned this thread in the 2nd
paragraph.  There is no inference needed for that, it's laid out quite
plainly I think.

I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand what you think "release notes"
should be.  Maybe you need to explain what it is you think release
notes should be, without duplicating the information already being put
out by the devs.

Maybe I'm a fan boy, maybe I've just been using Cake for so long that
it mostly all makes sense to me.  I dunno. I'm hungry.  :/
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-18 Thread leo

Well, I appreciate the non-commercial environment of cake development
and the it-would-be-done-if-only-someone-would-volunteer-to-do-it
approach. I don't have an argument with that. I just want to see the
release notes that I was referred to by Mariano Iglesias who sadly has
not yet revealed his source.

A lot of stuff in trac is chaff that doesn't affect day-to-day cake,
but as chaff it serves to obscure the important need to know changes.
Maybe there is some way of better detailing these changes in the
comments added to each code change?

On 18 Juny, 16:26, "Chris Hartjes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >https://trac.cakephp.org/timeline
> >https://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/changelog/1.2.x.x
>
> > All I've ever needed, all I've ever used :D
>
> As loath as I am to argue with people (that's a joke, for those who
> don't know me) I have to agree that sometimes, it would be nice to see
> documentation with the releases that says "we've added this cool new
> feature, and here's how to use it."
>
> Given the massive size of the change log, I don't know if that's even 
> feasible.
> --
> Chris Hartjes
> Internet Loudmouth
> Motto for 2008: "Moving from herding elephants to handling snakes..."
> @TheKeyBoard:http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-18 Thread Chris Hartjes

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> https://trac.cakephp.org/timeline
> https://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/changelog/1.2.x.x
>
> All I've ever needed, all I've ever used :D

As loath as I am to argue with people (that's a joke, for those who
don't know me) I have to agree that sometimes, it would be nice to see
documentation with the releases that says "we've added this cool new
feature, and here's how to use it."

Given the massive size of the change log, I don't know if that's even feasible.
-- 
Chris Hartjes
Internet Loudmouth
Motto for 2008: "Moving from herding elephants to handling snakes..."
@TheKeyBoard: http://www.littlehart.net/atthekeyboard

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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-18 Thread leo

Maybe, but they don't make easy bedtime reading - they're just lists
of bugfixes and enhancements. Surely there is a document, as intimated
by Mariano, that highlights important changes, perhaps even classifies
& indexes them.

I'd like to know to which release notes document Mariano was
referring!

On 18 Juny, 16:09, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> https://trac.cakephp.org/timelinehttps://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/changelog/1.2.x.x
>
> All I've ever needed, all I've ever used :D
>
> On Jun 17, 8:40 am, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > They are NOT release notes!
>
> > You would have to be beyond the need for release notes to extrapolate
> > this comment from that document:
>
> > >> Please read the release notes regarding LIKE and other SQL operators.
> > >> That should be:
>
> > >> $conditions = array("or"=>(array(
>
> > >>         'edifici LIKE %?%' => $searchText,
> > >>         'adreca LIKE %?%' => $searchText
> > >> )));
>
> > (http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/be4c344d...
> > )
>
> > On Jun 17, 1:10 pm, "Dardo Sordi Bogado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Just had to type:
>
> > >http://www.google.com, then input "cakephp rc1" and hit search, thats
> > > all you need.
>
> > >http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 AM, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Where do I find the release notes? Daft question I know, but I can't
> > > > find any for the current release. Mariano suggested I read them. I
> > > > would if I could find them. The link on the forge goes to a blank
> > > > page.
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

https://trac.cakephp.org/timeline
https://trac.cakephp.org/wiki/changelog/1.2.x.x

All I've ever needed, all I've ever used :D

On Jun 17, 8:40 am, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They are NOT release notes!
>
> You would have to be beyond the need for release notes to extrapolate
> this comment from that document:
>
> >> Please read the release notes regarding LIKE and other SQL operators.
> >> That should be:
>
> >> $conditions = array("or"=>(array(
>
> >> 'edifici LIKE %?%' => $searchText,
> >> 'adreca LIKE %?%' => $searchText
> >> )));
>
> (http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/be4c344d...
> )
>
> On Jun 17, 1:10 pm, "Dardo Sordi Bogado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just had to type:
>
> >http://www.google.com, then input "cakephp rc1" and hit search, thats
> > all you need.
>
> >http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1
>
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 AM, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Where do I find the release notes? Daft question I know, but I can't
> > > find any for the current release. Mariano suggested I read them. I
> > > would if I could find them. The link on the forge goes to a blank
> > > page.
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-17 Thread leo

They are NOT release notes!

You would have to be beyond the need for release notes to extrapolate
this comment from that document:

>> Please read the release notes regarding LIKE and other SQL operators.
>> That should be:
>>
>> $conditions = array("or"=>(array(
>> 'edifici LIKE %?%' => $searchText,
>> 'adreca LIKE %?%' => $searchText
>> )));

( http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php/browse_thread/thread/be4c344d3353ae8b#
)

On Jun 17, 1:10 pm, "Dardo Sordi Bogado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just had to type:
>
> http://www.google.com, then input "cakephp rc1" and hit search, thats
> all you need.
>
> http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 AM, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Where do I find the release notes? Daft question I know, but I can't
> > find any for the current release. Mariano suggested I read them. I
> > would if I could find them. The link on the forge goes to a blank
> > page.
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Re: 1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-17 Thread Dardo Sordi Bogado

Just had to type:

http://www.google.com , then input "cakephp rc1" and hit search, thats
all you need.

http://bakery.cakephp.org/articles/view/release-pure-cake-power-in-rc1

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 AM, leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Where do I find the release notes? Daft question I know, but I can't
> find any for the current release. Mariano suggested I read them. I
> would if I could find them. The link on the forge goes to a blank
> page.
>
>
> >
>

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1.2 RC1 Release Notes - wood and trees

2008-06-17 Thread leo

Where do I find the release notes? Daft question I know, but I can't
find any for the current release. Mariano suggested I read them. I
would if I could find them. The link on the forge goes to a blank
page.


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