Re: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact?
IMHO, if you already are an experienced programmer, you can learn PHP and CakePHP simultaneously without much trouble.Differences between object-oriented languages are minimal (compared to other paradigms) When I started with CakePHP I already had experience with PHP, but when I tried RoR and Django I had Zero Ruby and Python experience respectively, and the conversion was quite straightforward. On Oct 18, 9:34 am, Dérico Filho wrote: > Anna, > > I wrote an article about this you're asking. Not _exactly_ CakePHP and > PHP, but it covers your doubt, I say. > > http://blog.cirello.org/2008/02/27/eric-raymonds-how-to-become-a-hacker/ > > Please read it, I think it'll clear up which are the next steps you > should take. > > On this one, I cover the problem of Frameworks hiding from the > developer the magic it does to make the developer's life easier. And > the trouble it causes to > beginners.http://blog.cirello.org/2007/09/24/imho-cakephp-made-php-bondage-and-... > > I hope both articles to be useful for you. > > []s > Dérico Filho > > On Oct 17, 7:52 pm, Anna T wrote: > > > Hello to all of you PHP and Cake experts, > > > Please tell me, is it recommendable for me to learn very well pure PHP > > BEFORE learning Cake or is the order in which I learn these two maybe > > not quite important? > > (I have started learning Cake without having a very good grasp of Php > > - I only know the very basics and don't have experience at all in > > Php.) > > > So for short: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before > > starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact? > > > Thank you in advance. > > > Anna T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact?
Anna, I wrote an article about this you're asking. Not _exactly_ CakePHP and PHP, but it covers your doubt, I say. http://blog.cirello.org/2008/02/27/eric-raymonds-how-to-become-a-hacker/ Please read it, I think it'll clear up which are the next steps you should take. On this one, I cover the problem of Frameworks hiding from the developer the magic it does to make the developer's life easier. And the trouble it causes to beginners. http://blog.cirello.org/2007/09/24/imho-cakephp-made-php-bondage-and-discipline/ I hope both articles to be useful for you. []s Dérico Filho On Oct 17, 7:52 pm, Anna T wrote: > Hello to all of you PHP and Cake experts, > > Please tell me, is it recommendable for me to learn very well pure PHP > BEFORE learning Cake or is the order in which I learn these two maybe > not quite important? > (I have started learning Cake without having a very good grasp of Php > - I only know the very basics and don't have experience at all in > Php.) > > So for short: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before > starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact? > > Thank you in advance. > > Anna T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact?
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Anna T wrote: > > [..snip..] > > So for short: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before > starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact? > > Thank you in advance. > Hi Anna. I think you'll find most people will give you the same answer: CakePHP is a PHP framework. This means that it gives you the means to build a maintainable website in much less time than if you did it by writing raw PHP, but you have to know your way around PHP. I would suggest reading some tutorials/books on PHP first (lots of documentation on php.net to get you started), as well as OOP and MVC if you're not familiar with these concepts, then diving into CakePHP. Good luck! - Gonzalo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact?
Hello to all of you PHP and Cake experts, Please tell me, is it recommendable for me to learn very well pure PHP BEFORE learning Cake or is the order in which I learn these two maybe not quite important? (I have started learning Cake without having a very good grasp of Php - I only know the very basics and don't have experience at all in Php.) So for short: Is it assumed that you should know PHP well before starting with Cake or can you disregard this fact? Thank you in advance. Anna T --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CakePHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
