Re: Can/Should I use 1.2RC3 in a production environment

2008-12-07 Thread thatsgreat2345

1.2 unstable, where did you get that from?

On Dec 7, 9:59 am, Ed Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI, cake noob here. I know 1.2 isn't stable yet, but does anyone have
 any experience or advice wrt usin 1.2RC3 in a production environment?
 We are migrating a Perl CGI project over to Cake and first decided to
 use 1.1 because of the stable tag on it.

 But if 1.2 is going stable in January/early '09, should we develop on
 it? I only want to do TDD work and have read that using Simpletest in
 1.1 is problematic.

 Thanks
 Ed
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Re: Can/Should I use 1.2RC3 in a production environment

2008-12-07 Thread lightglitch

Despite being in RC3 I already use it in some productions projects
without
any problems. It may have some bugs in some features but the main 1.2
core
is stable enough to start development.

And 1.2 is a big evolution over 1.1 version.


On Dec 7, 5:59 pm, Ed Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI, cake noob here. I know 1.2 isn't stable yet, but does anyone have
 any experience or advice wrt usin 1.2RC3 in a production environment?
 We are migrating a Perl CGI project over to Cake and first decided to
 use 1.1 because of the stable tag on it.

 But if 1.2 is going stable in January/early '09, should we develop on
 it? I only want to do TDD work and have read that using Simpletest in
 1.1 is problematic.

 Thanks
 Ed
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Re: Can/Should I use 1.2RC3 in a production environment

2008-12-07 Thread Ed Howland

Thanks to all.

That gives me comfort esp. wrt to unit testing.

Ed

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM, lightglitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Despite being in RC3 I already use it in some productions projects
 without
 any problems. It may have some bugs in some features but the main 1.2
 core
 is stable enough to start development.

 And 1.2 is a big evolution over 1.1 version.


 On Dec 7, 5:59 pm, Ed Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HI, cake noob here. I know 1.2 isn't stable yet, but does anyone have
 any experience or advice wrt usin 1.2RC3 in a production environment?
 We are migrating a Perl CGI project over to Cake and first decided to
 use 1.1 because of the stable tag on it.

 But if 1.2 is going stable in January/early '09, should we develop on
 it? I only want to do TDD work and have read that using Simpletest in
 1.1 is problematic.

 Thanks
 Ed
 




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Re: Can/Should I use 1.2RC3 in a production environment

2008-12-07 Thread aranworld

For the last 6 months or so, most of the changes made to the 1.2 core
code have been with regards to test coverage.  Very little (if any) of
the most commonly used API has changed, and I think the developers
have been pretty clear that not much will change either.  For the most
part, websites I put together in March 2008 still function perfectly
fine with the latest version of the core code.

Upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2, however, does require a bit of work,
because of the changes made to the way the HTML helper forms work.
Also, so many more people are focused on 1.2, that if there are any
major vulnerabilities or performance problems discovered, they will be
found quickly making its use relatively safe from a project management
standpoint.

-Aran

On Dec 7, 12:26 pm, Ed Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all.

 That gives me comfort esp. wrt to unit testing.

 Ed



 On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:02 PM, lightglitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Despite being in RC3 I already use it in some productions projects
  without
  any problems. It may have some bugs in some features but the main 1.2
  core
  is stable enough to start development.

  And 1.2 is a big evolution over 1.1 version.

  On Dec 7, 5:59 pm, Ed Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HI, cake noob here. I know 1.2 isn't stable yet, but does anyone have
  any experience or advice wrt usin 1.2RC3 in a production environment?
  We are migrating a Perl CGI project over to Cake and first decided to
  use 1.1 because of the stable tag on it.

  But if 1.2 is going stable in January/early '09, should we develop on
  it? I only want to do TDD work and have read that using Simpletest in
  1.1 is problematic.

  Thanks
  Ed

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Re: Can/Should I use 1.2RC3 in a production environment

2008-12-07 Thread Ed Howland

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM, aranworld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For the last 6 months or so, most of the changes made to the 1.2 core
 code have been with regards to test coverage.  Very little (if any) of
 the most commonly used API has changed, and I think the developers
 have been pretty clear that not much will change either.  For the most
 part, websites I put together in March 2008 still function perfectly
 fine with the latest version of the core code.

 Upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2, however, does require a bit of work,

Since this project is Greenfield, it shouldn't be a problem. All I
have now is the login page, home page and various user add,edit, list
stuff. Did note the file extension changed from .thtml to .ctp.

 because of the changes made to the way the HTML helper forms work.
 Also, so many more people are focused on 1.2, that if there are any
 major vulnerabilities or performance problems discovered, they will be
 found quickly making its use relatively safe from a project management
 standpoint.


Also most of the on-line discussion seems to assume 1.2. With the
release being nearly 2 years old, I;d say it is mature enough for our
use. After all I'm writing this on GMail(beta)!

Thanks
Ed

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