Re: Email Question

2011-08-20 Thread WebbedIT
Looks as though you are there with your concept, but thought you may
like to read about how I approached this when wanting to log mulitple
reads for each email sent.

My method was to create a hash for every email sent.  Then in the HTML
emails I included an image with a src of '/EmailMessageRead/add/
hash'.

In the controller action I first checked if the hash existed in my
table, if not I blackholed the request in an attempt to stop the
creation of random read requests.

If the hash did exist, I checked if there had been any previous reads
linked to this email and retrieved the last one.  The idea here was to
check if there had been a read in the last XX minutes to try and limit
duplicate reads from a recipient navigating through their email client
and it repeatedly previewing their email.  So if there were no
previous requests or the last request was more than 10 minutes ago I
saved an EmailMessageRead record.

I then simply ran a $this->redirect('http://www.witmail.co.uk/img/
beacon.gif'); to redirect the request to my beacon image.

In addition to the above I also included a link in the HTML and Plain
Text emails to view the email online (if you are having problems
viewing this email type link) and linked this to the same action with
a $browserview boolean parameter which told the action to register a
message read (along with a flag to say it was a browser view) but
instead of redirecting to the beacon image it simply showed the email
content.

HTH, Paul.

On Aug 20, 7:01 am, Matt Murphy  wrote:
> Perfection.  Well, as much perfection as we're allowed, anyway.  Maybe
> tack on a BS image extension to the messageID that you lop off before
> processing in order to complete the illusion.  I am quite sure that
> will be permissible with default a default .htaccess file.
>
> Oh, the call to get the image.  We need actual image file contents and
> a proper image header:
> in the action:
> $this->view->image = file_get_contents($realimageURL);
> I may be hosing that object reference.  Get the file contents into a
> view object property.  Sorry, I'm rusty on my cakephp.
> ...and then maybe a view with the following might do it:
> image?>
> but i may be wrong about being able to set the header in the view. so
> you may just want to cheat and do:
> (in the action again)
> header('content-type: image/png'); //assuming png image here
> echo file_get_contents($realimageURL); //whatever that is -- this will
> be a live web url
> exit;
>
> which is maybe a little kludgy, but will absolutely positively maybe work.
>
> M
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Krissy Masters
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  wrote:
>
> > Yeah I figured with all the email clients security settings saying "click 
> > here to download images in the message" type stuff there is no guarantee 
> > the image would be pulled. But for now some information on the ones who do 
> > is better than none at all.
>
> > So my next question is how do I go about this? How do I turn the fetching 
> > of an image into a function thru the url? something like this in the HTML 
> > email 
>
> >  and then that url would hit message controller
>
> > fetch($message_id ){
>
> > do the record keeping based on the message id
>
> > return '/images/the_image.jpg';
>
> > }
>
> > Am I far off here?
>
> > Thanks everyone,
>
> > K
>
> > From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Matt Murphy
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:12 PM
> > To: cake-php@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Email Question
>
> > In an HTML layout, you can reference an image calling to a unique image 
> > URL.  When that gets hit in your logs, you know they opened it.  
> > Unfortunately, they might not display images, because this is a classic way 
> > to confirm that an email is active employed by spambots, but it's the best 
> > *automatic* method I know of.
>
> > I'm eager to hear what everyone else has!
>
> > Matt Murphy
>
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Krissy Masters 
> >  wrote:
>
> > I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it. 
> > How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to 
> > view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email 
> > viewing I'm stumped.
>
> > Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the 
> > point J
>
> > Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>
> > K
>
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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Matt Murphy
Perfection.  Well, as much perfection as we're allowed, anyway.  Maybe
tack on a BS image extension to the messageID that you lop off before
processing in order to complete the illusion.  I am quite sure that
will be permissible with default a default .htaccess file.

Oh, the call to get the image.  We need actual image file contents and
a proper image header:
in the action:
$this->view->image = file_get_contents($realimageURL);
I may be hosing that object reference.  Get the file contents into a
view object property.  Sorry, I'm rusty on my cakephp.
...and then maybe a view with the following might do it:
image?>
but i may be wrong about being able to set the header in the view. so
you may just want to cheat and do:
(in the action again)
header('content-type: image/png'); //assuming png image here
echo file_get_contents($realimageURL); //whatever that is -- this will
be a live web url
exit;

which is maybe a little kludgy, but will absolutely positively maybe work.

M
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Krissy Masters
 wrote:
>
> Yeah I figured with all the email clients security settings saying "click 
> here to download images in the message" type stuff there is no guarantee the 
> image would be pulled. But for now some information on the ones who do is 
> better than none at all.
>
>
>
> So my next question is how do I go about this? How do I turn the fetching of 
> an image into a function thru the url? something like this in the HTML email 
> 
>
>
>
>  and then that url would hit message controller
>
>
>
> fetch($message_id ){
>
> do the record keeping based on the message id
>
>
>
> return '/images/the_image.jpg';
>
> }
>
>
>
> Am I far off here?
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
>
>
> K
>
>
>
> From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Matt Murphy
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:12 PM
> To: cake-php@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Email Question
>
>
>
> In an HTML layout, you can reference an image calling to a unique image URL.  
> When that gets hit in your logs, you know they opened it.  Unfortunately, 
> they might not display images, because this is a classic way to confirm that 
> an email is active employed by spambots, but it's the best *automatic* method 
> I know of.
>
> I'm eager to hear what everyone else has!
>
> Matt Murphy
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Krissy Masters  
> wrote:
>
> I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it. How 
> does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to view in 
> browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email viewing 
> I'm stumped.
>
> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the point 
> J
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>
>
>
> K
>
>
>
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RE: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Krissy Masters
Yeah I figured with all the email clients security settings saying "click
here to download images in the message" type stuff there is no guarantee the
image would be pulled. But for now some information on the ones who do is
better than none at all.

 

So my next question is how do I go about this? How do I turn the fetching of
an image into a function thru the url? something like this in the HTML email


 

 and then that url would hit message controller

 

fetch($message_id ){

do the record keeping based on the message id

 

return '/images/the_image.jpg';

}

 

Am I far off here?

 

Thanks everyone,

 

K

 

From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Matt Murphy
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:12 PM
To: cake-php@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Email Question

 

In an HTML layout, you can reference an image calling to a unique image URL.
When that gets hit in your logs, you know they opened it.  Unfortunately,
they might not display images, because this is a classic way to confirm that
an email is active employed by spambots, but it's the best *automatic*
method I know of.

I'm eager to hear what everyone else has!

Matt Murphy

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Krissy Masters 
wrote:

I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it.
How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
viewing I'm stumped.

Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
point J

 

Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.

 

K

 

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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Matt Murphy
True.  But I find myself wondering how to request a return receipt in
cake-php.  I've not mucked about with php email classes in a while, but I
can't remember seeing one that supported it.  Is it something people are
implementing these days?

MM

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Zaky Katalan-Ezra wrote:

> I think you need to use some desktop client that support "read receipt" in
> order to do that
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Krissy Masters <
> naked.cake.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened
>> it. How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
>> view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
>> viewing I'm stumped.
>>
>> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
>> point J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> K
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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Zaky Katalan-Ezra
I think you need to use some desktop client that support "read receipt" in
order to do that

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Krissy Masters  wrote:

>  I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it.
> How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
> view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
> viewing I'm stumped.
>
> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
> point J
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>
> ** **
>
> K
>
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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Matt Murphy
that was image TAG calling to a unique image url...
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Matt Murphy  wrote:

> In an HTML layout, you can reference an image calling to a unique image
> URL.  When that gets hit in your logs, you know they opened it.
> Unfortunately, they might not display images, because this is a classic way
> to confirm that an email is active employed by spambots, but it's the best
> *automatic* method I know of.
>
> I'm eager to hear what everyone else has!
>
> Matt Murphy
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Krissy Masters <
> naked.cake.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened
>> it. How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
>> view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
>> viewing I'm stumped.
>>
>> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
>> point J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> K
>>
>> ** **
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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Robert Maiolo
you could request a return receipt but it's up to them to acknowledge it..


On Aug 19, 2011 2:16 PM, "Krissy Masters" 
wrote:
> I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it.
> How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
> view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
> viewing I'm stumped.
>
> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
> point J
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>
>
>
> K
>
>
>
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Re: Email Question

2011-08-19 Thread Matt Murphy
In an HTML layout, you can reference an image calling to a unique image
URL.  When that gets hit in your logs, you know they opened it.
Unfortunately, they might not display images, because this is a classic way
to confirm that an email is active employed by spambots, but it's the best
*automatic* method I know of.

I'm eager to hear what everyone else has!

Matt Murphy

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Krissy Masters
wrote:

>  I am sending out emails and I want to know that the person has opened it.
> How does one go about this? I have a link in the email they can click to
> view in browser and I can tell when that happens but as for straight email
> viewing I'm stumped.
>
> Not much detail in the question but I figure its rather straight to the
> point J
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks everyone as I wait in anticipation for any help.
>
> ** **
>
> K
>
> ** **
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Re: Email Question

2011-03-29 Thread Alok Mishra
I things browser or email css issue refresh caching and try to it

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

> On Mar 28, 2011, at 23:23, Krissy Masters wrote:
>
> > Using just the Email Component, no add ons and something weird is going
> on. I get the email but the HTML template wrapping the email does not
> change. What I mean is I send myself an email , make a change to the
> template upload it. Send another email and the template does not chage. I
> have even hardcoded in “WHAT THE HELL” and it shows up maybe 10 emails later
> long after I have deleted WHAT THE HELL. I am timestamping the subject so I
> know at 12:30 this email was sent and add a note in the email message saying
> hardcoded what the hell, or this should be pink , text is blue…what not so I
> can tell whats going on.
> >
> > But the changes and the rendering of the correct template are about 10
> emails back.
> >
> >
> > Ideas? Yes I wait till the template has uploaded before sending. Sure I
> might miss 1 or 2 but 10 emails not likely.
>
> Is there caching involved? Does CakePHP perhaps cache the template for
> awhile before re-reading it?
>
>
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Re: Email Question

2011-03-29 Thread Fons Vandamme
You can troubleshoot this easily by following these steps:

1. Send e-mail;
2. Verify if e-mail is delivered;
3. Change template for e-mails;
4. Delete cache files (without modifying the dir structure);
5. Send an e-mail (using the new template);
6. Verify if e-mail is delivered and template has changed.

please let me know the outcome so we can look for another solution if
this doesn't fix your issue.

Fons

On 29 mrt, 06:30, "Krissy Masters"  wrote:
> I have not setup any caching specifically for the email process? Does it do
> it without me knowing possibly? Maybe the templates are cached by Cake for x
> amount of time? I cannot see that being forced upon us...
>
> I have not set any cache action or anything I can think of to cache the
> email.
>
> K
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ryan Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:57 AM
> To: cake-php@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Email Question
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 23:23, Krissy Masters wrote:
>
> > Using just the Email Component, no add ons and something weird is going
> on. I get the email but the HTML template wrapping the email does not
> change. What I mean is I send myself an email , make a change to the
> template upload it. Send another email and the template does not chage. I
> have even hardcoded in "WHAT THE HELL" and it shows up maybe 10 emails later
> long after I have deleted WHAT THE HELL. I am timestamping the subject so I
> know at 12:30 this email was sent and add a note in the email message saying
> hardcoded what the hell, or this should be pink , text is blue.what not so I
> can tell whats going on.
>
> > But the changes and the rendering of the correct template are about 10
> emails back.
>
> > Ideas? Yes I wait till the template has uploaded before sending. Sure I
> might miss 1 or 2 but 10 emails not likely.
>
> Is there caching involved? Does CakePHP perhaps cache the template for
> awhile before re-reading it?
>
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RE: Email Question

2011-03-28 Thread Krissy Masters
I have not setup any caching specifically for the email process? Does it do
it without me knowing possibly? Maybe the templates are cached by Cake for x
amount of time? I cannot see that being forced upon us...

I have not set any cache action or anything I can think of to cache the
email.

K
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From: cake-php@googlegroups.com [mailto:cake-php@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ryan Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 1:57 AM
To: cake-php@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Email Question

On Mar 28, 2011, at 23:23, Krissy Masters wrote:

> Using just the Email Component, no add ons and something weird is going
on. I get the email but the HTML template wrapping the email does not
change. What I mean is I send myself an email , make a change to the
template upload it. Send another email and the template does not chage. I
have even hardcoded in "WHAT THE HELL" and it shows up maybe 10 emails later
long after I have deleted WHAT THE HELL. I am timestamping the subject so I
know at 12:30 this email was sent and add a note in the email message saying
hardcoded what the hell, or this should be pink , text is blue.what not so I
can tell whats going on.
>  
> But the changes and the rendering of the correct template are about 10
emails back.
>  
>  
> Ideas? Yes I wait till the template has uploaded before sending. Sure I
might miss 1 or 2 but 10 emails not likely.

Is there caching involved? Does CakePHP perhaps cache the template for
awhile before re-reading it?



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Re: Email Question

2011-03-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 28, 2011, at 23:23, Krissy Masters wrote:

> Using just the Email Component, no add ons and something weird is going on. I 
> get the email but the HTML template wrapping the email does not change. What 
> I mean is I send myself an email , make a change to the template upload it. 
> Send another email and the template does not chage. I have even hardcoded in 
> “WHAT THE HELL” and it shows up maybe 10 emails later long after I have 
> deleted WHAT THE HELL. I am timestamping the subject so I know at 12:30 this 
> email was sent and add a note in the email message saying hardcoded what the 
> hell, or this should be pink , text is blue…what not so I can tell whats 
> going on.
>  
> But the changes and the rendering of the correct template are about 10 emails 
> back.
>  
>  
> Ideas? Yes I wait till the template has uploaded before sending. Sure I might 
> miss 1 or 2 but 10 emails not likely.

Is there caching involved? Does CakePHP perhaps cache the template for awhile 
before re-reading it?



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