Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Well I must admit I'm wondering why so much fuss, but this application
was commissioned to run on their internal network and so unfortunately
I have no choice but to comply!

I decided against changing the path in Cache::config in the end,
because logs and my thumbnail cache also need to be redirected.
Defining my own TMP constant in webroot/index.php file it takes care
of all of them, and seems to be working well now.
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread Stephen Orr

I can't be the only one thinking this while reading this thread - but
it sounds like the server operator is excessively paranoid, keeping
the system locked down far beyond what it needs to be. I'd suggest
finding an alternate place to host your sites, it just sounds like
this is going to cause nightmares in future.

On Jun 19, 12:00 pm, acoustic_overdrive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Well I asked and no symlinks allowed unfortunately. He says symlinks
> can be used to gain access to the root of the machine.
>
> On Jun 19, 11:02 am, acoustic_overdrive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Marcin,
>
> > Sorry I'm not that up to speed with linux filesystems but I'll have a
> > go at explaining...
>
> > The files are stored on an NFS server which has two mountpoints on the
> > webserver, one of which is writable (where my tmp stuff is) and the
> > other is read-only (where the rest of my application code and webroot
> > is). I'm not allowed any more mountpoints and so I need the shared
> > writable folder to be outside this cake application as it is going to
> > be shared by several cake applications, not just one. Otherwise I
> > would have asked him to mount it as app/tmp inside my app and keep the
> > file structure as intended.
>
> > so my structure on the NFS server is:
>
> > docroot/app1
> > docroot/app2
> > docroot/app3
> > sharedtmp/app1
> > sharedtmp/app2
> > sharedtmp/app3
>
> > and on the webserver it looks like this:
>
> > docroot/app1
> > docroot/app2
> > docroot/app3
> > docroot/sharedtmp/app1
> > docroot/sharedtmp/app2
> > docroot/sharedtmp/app3
>
> > I think the whole point in this exercise is so he can separate
> > readable and writable folders without having to add more mountpoints
> > in future.
>
> > He also disabled symlinks for security reasons so I can't use
> > mod_rewrite either :-(
>
> > But what you're suggesting could be interesting actually. Can I create
> > three symbolic links from the sharedtmp to put my tmp folders back
> > where they should be inside each app?
>
> > On Jun 19, 10:33 am, "Marcin Domanski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > can't you just symlink the directories ?
>
> > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, acoustic_overdrive
>
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Dave,
>
> > > > Thanks for the tip - I didn't realise that. I will give that a try. If
> > > > I set that do you think the TMP constant is ignored? or is it still
> > > > used for logs?
>
> > > > Jamie
>
> > > > On Jun 17, 9:05 pm, DaveMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!
>
> > > >> Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like
>
> > > >> Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
> > > >> tmp/path'));
>
> > > >> Full notes for this command are in config.php.
>
> > > >> On Jun 16, 1:03 pm,acoustic_overdrive<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >> > Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>
> > > >> > I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
> > > >> > will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
> > > >> > root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>
> > > >> > Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
> > > >> > in that index.php file seems to work fine.
>
> > > --
> > > Marcin Domanskihttp://kabturek.info
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Well I asked and no symlinks allowed unfortunately. He says symlinks
can be used to gain access to the root of the machine.



On Jun 19, 11:02 am, acoustic_overdrive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Marcin,
>
> Sorry I'm not that up to speed with linux filesystems but I'll have a
> go at explaining...
>
> The files are stored on an NFS server which has two mountpoints on the
> webserver, one of which is writable (where my tmp stuff is) and the
> other is read-only (where the rest of my application code and webroot
> is). I'm not allowed any more mountpoints and so I need the shared
> writable folder to be outside this cake application as it is going to
> be shared by several cake applications, not just one. Otherwise I
> would have asked him to mount it as app/tmp inside my app and keep the
> file structure as intended.
>
> so my structure on the NFS server is:
>
> docroot/app1
> docroot/app2
> docroot/app3
> sharedtmp/app1
> sharedtmp/app2
> sharedtmp/app3
>
> and on the webserver it looks like this:
>
> docroot/app1
> docroot/app2
> docroot/app3
> docroot/sharedtmp/app1
> docroot/sharedtmp/app2
> docroot/sharedtmp/app3
>
> I think the whole point in this exercise is so he can separate
> readable and writable folders without having to add more mountpoints
> in future.
>
> He also disabled symlinks for security reasons so I can't use
> mod_rewrite either :-(
>
> But what you're suggesting could be interesting actually. Can I create
> three symbolic links from the sharedtmp to put my tmp folders back
> where they should be inside each app?
>
> On Jun 19, 10:33 am, "Marcin Domanski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > can't you just symlink the directories ?
>
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, acoustic_overdrive
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Dave,
>
> > > Thanks for the tip - I didn't realise that. I will give that a try. If
> > > I set that do you think the TMP constant is ignored? or is it still
> > > used for logs?
>
> > > Jamie
>
> > > On Jun 17, 9:05 pm, DaveMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!
>
> > >> Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like
>
> > >> Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
> > >> tmp/path'));
>
> > >> Full notes for this command are in config.php.
>
> > >> On Jun 16, 1:03 pm,acoustic_overdrive<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> > Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>
> > >> > I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
> > >> > will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
> > >> > root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>
> > >> > Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
> > >> > in that index.php file seems to work fine.
>
> > --
> > Marcin Domanskihttp://kabturek.info
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Hi Marcin,

Sorry I'm not that up to speed with linux filesystems but I'll have a
go at explaining...

The files are stored on an NFS server which has two mountpoints on the
webserver, one of which is writable (where my tmp stuff is) and the
other is read-only (where the rest of my application code and webroot
is). I'm not allowed any more mountpoints and so I need the shared
writable folder to be outside this cake application as it is going to
be shared by several cake applications, not just one. Otherwise I
would have asked him to mount it as app/tmp inside my app and keep the
file structure as intended.

so my structure on the NFS server is:

docroot/app1
docroot/app2
docroot/app3
sharedtmp/app1
sharedtmp/app2
sharedtmp/app3

and on the webserver it looks like this:

docroot/app1
docroot/app2
docroot/app3
docroot/sharedtmp/app1
docroot/sharedtmp/app2
docroot/sharedtmp/app3

I think the whole point in this exercise is so he can separate
readable and writable folders without having to add more mountpoints
in future.

He also disabled symlinks for security reasons so I can't use
mod_rewrite either :-(

But what you're suggesting could be interesting actually. Can I create
three symbolic links from the sharedtmp to put my tmp folders back
where they should be inside each app?



On Jun 19, 10:33 am, "Marcin Domanski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can't you just symlink the directories ?
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, acoustic_overdrive
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
>
> > Thanks for the tip - I didn't realise that. I will give that a try. If
> > I set that do you think the TMP constant is ignored? or is it still
> > used for logs?
>
> > Jamie
>
> > On Jun 17, 9:05 pm, DaveMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!
>
> >> Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like
>
> >> Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
> >> tmp/path'));
>
> >> Full notes for this command are in config.php.
>
> >> On Jun 16, 1:03 pm,acoustic_overdrive<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>
> >> > I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
> >> > will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
> >> > root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>
> >> > Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
> >> > in that index.php file seems to work fine.
>
> --
> Marcin Domanskihttp://kabturek.info
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread Marcin Domanski

can't you just symlink the directories ?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, acoustic_overdrive
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Thanks for the tip - I didn't realise that. I will give that a try. If
> I set that do you think the TMP constant is ignored? or is it still
> used for logs?
>
> Jamie
>
> On Jun 17, 9:05 pm, DaveMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!
>>
>> Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like
>>
>> Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
>> tmp/path'));
>>
>> Full notes for this command are in config.php.
>>
>> On Jun 16, 1:03 pm,acoustic_overdrive<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>>
>> > I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
>> > will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
>> > root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>>
>> > Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
>> > in that index.php file seems to work fine.
> >
>



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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-19 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the tip - I didn't realise that. I will give that a try. If
I set that do you think the TMP constant is ignored? or is it still
used for logs?

Jamie

On Jun 17, 9:05 pm, DaveMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!
>
> Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like
>
> Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
> tmp/path'));
>
> Full notes for this command are in config.php.
>
> On Jun 16, 1:03 pm,acoustic_overdrive<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>
> > I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
> > will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
> > root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>
> > Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
> > in that index.php file seems to work fine.
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-17 Thread DaveMahon

Actually, there's an even easier way - and the official one to boot!

Edit the cache command at app/core/config.php to look like

Cache::config('default', array('engine' => 'File', 'path' => '/custom/
tmp/path'));

Full notes for this command are in config.php.

On Jun 16, 1:03 pm, acoustic_overdrive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Dave thanks for checking.
>
> I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
> will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
> root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.
>
> Which also means I think I've solved my problem because definingTMP
> in that index.php file seems to work fine.
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-16 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Hi Dave thanks for checking.

I'm not using mod_rewrite, and I've just realised this means that it
will actually get its folder structure set up by the index.php in the
root of the installation, not the bootstrap or index.php in webroot.

Which also means I think I've solved my problem because defining TMP
in that index.php file seems to work fine.
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-16 Thread DaveMahon

Really? When I add
if (!defined('TMP')) echo 'Not set!';

to webroot/index.php, the text appears.

On Jun 16, 11:48 am, acoustic_overdrive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Actually I tried redefining it in bootstrap.php and webroot/index.php
> and it's already defined elsewhere by then so I can't change it in
> either of those.
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Re: Sharing tmp with other applications

2008-06-16 Thread acoustic_overdrive

Actually I tried redefining it in bootstrap.php and webroot/index.php
and it's already defined elsewhere by then so I can't change it in
either of those.
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