Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-24 Thread connrs
That’s a neat little solution. I always enjoy getting dirty forking the 
libs/ directory myself.

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Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-24 Thread connrs
Thanks euromark. You, and the other cakers below confirmed that I’m not 
insane. The most important thing I’ve gleaned from this thread is that I 
really need to start following the roadmap (and migration guides) for 2 and 
beyond to get a better idea of the direction the development team are 
taking.

I’d be interested to see how soon $helper is removed in favour of 
$this->Helper in CakePHP 2 - if it hasn’t already been considered and 
documented.

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Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-22 Thread David Kullmann
Connrs:

It is best practice to use $this->Helper and I believe you may run
into some issues if you don't do it with some helpers in Cake1.3.x.

-DK

On Jan 21, 9:53 am, connrs  wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I suppose this is my first ever post on any CakePHP related forum/group so
> get the unicorns and badger porn out. I've been actively using CakePHP since
> 1.1 and have generally beaten and thrashed the framework into doing what I
> liked until progressively it has become the shiny framework of today.
>
> As I've refactored and refactored over and over, Cake has finally beaten and
> thrashed me into better use of Behavior, Component and Helper; I use those
> three so much now to keep my code tidy and help make testing manageable.
>
> These days, I find that there are times I want to name a helper to match the
> model when working in views. I feel that models named Invoice suit an
> Invoice helper more than concocting weakly linked names; yet, in the past
> I've often mashed up the oddest of names so that I can avoid variable
> collisions. I, personally, find this method much more MVC (I've seen this in
> my occasional expeditions into RoR).
> *
> *
> *TLDR;*
> *
> *
> Since 1.3, have you begun refactoring to take advantage of $this->Helper or
> have you continued to make use of $helper and used creative naming to get
> around things?
> *I guess I'm just trying to gauge whether or not I'm personally taking the
> right path with $this->Helper over $helper*

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Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-22 Thread euromark
with a little hack you can already disable $html for the object...
http://www.dereuromark.de/2010/09/12/neccessary-core-hacks-cake-1-3/


On 22 Jan., 16:31, "clearflysyst...@googlemail.com"
 wrote:
> I have to agree $this->Helper.
>
> It makes more sense when reading your code that you're referencing a
> Helper Class and not a local variable you have set somewhere else in
> your code.
> Also i quite often have for loops where i'm building up a html string
> for output and $html would be the logical variable name but then you
> get the clash.
>
> So i hope Cake Devs intend to remove $html etc in 2.0,
>
> On Jan 21, 3:20 pm, euromark  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > of course 100%
> > $this->Helper
>
> > a) cleaner
> > b) fit for 2.0
>
> > :)
>
> > On 21 Jan., 15:53, connrs  wrote:
>
> > > Hi guys
>
> > > I suppose this is my first ever post on any CakePHP related forum/group so
> > > get the unicorns and badger porn out. I've been actively using CakePHP 
> > > since
> > > 1.1 and have generally beaten and thrashed the framework into doing what I
> > > liked until progressively it has become the shiny framework of today.
>
> > > As I've refactored and refactored over and over, Cake has finally beaten 
> > > and
> > > thrashed me into better use of Behavior, Component and Helper; I use those
> > > three so much now to keep my code tidy and help make testing manageable.
>
> > > These days, I find that there are times I want to name a helper to match 
> > > the
> > > model when working in views. I feel that models named Invoice suit an
> > > Invoice helper more than concocting weakly linked names; yet, in the past
> > > I've often mashed up the oddest of names so that I can avoid variable
> > > collisions. I, personally, find this method much more MVC (I've seen this 
> > > in
> > > my occasional expeditions into RoR).
> > > *
> > > *
> > > *TLDR;*
> > > *
> > > *
> > > Since 1.3, have you begun refactoring to take advantage of $this->Helper 
> > > or
> > > have you continued to make use of $helper and used creative naming to get
> > > around things?
> > > *I guess I'm just trying to gauge whether or not I'm personally taking the
> > > right path with $this->Helper over $helper*

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Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-22 Thread clearflysyst...@googlemail.com
I have to agree $this->Helper.

It makes more sense when reading your code that you're referencing a
Helper Class and not a local variable you have set somewhere else in
your code.
Also i quite often have for loops where i'm building up a html string
for output and $html would be the logical variable name but then you
get the clash.

So i hope Cake Devs intend to remove $html etc in 2.0,

On Jan 21, 3:20 pm, euromark  wrote:
> of course 100%
> $this->Helper
>
> a) cleaner
> b) fit for 2.0
>
> :)
>
> On 21 Jan., 15:53, connrs  wrote:
>
> > Hi guys
>
> > I suppose this is my first ever post on any CakePHP related forum/group so
> > get the unicorns and badger porn out. I've been actively using CakePHP since
> > 1.1 and have generally beaten and thrashed the framework into doing what I
> > liked until progressively it has become the shiny framework of today.
>
> > As I've refactored and refactored over and over, Cake has finally beaten and
> > thrashed me into better use of Behavior, Component and Helper; I use those
> > three so much now to keep my code tidy and help make testing manageable.
>
> > These days, I find that there are times I want to name a helper to match the
> > model when working in views. I feel that models named Invoice suit an
> > Invoice helper more than concocting weakly linked names; yet, in the past
> > I've often mashed up the oddest of names so that I can avoid variable
> > collisions. I, personally, find this method much more MVC (I've seen this in
> > my occasional expeditions into RoR).
> > *
> > *
> > *TLDR;*
> > *
> > *
> > Since 1.3, have you begun refactoring to take advantage of $this->Helper or
> > have you continued to make use of $helper and used creative naming to get
> > around things?
> > *I guess I'm just trying to gauge whether or not I'm personally taking the
> > right path with $this->Helper over $helper*
>
>

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Re: What are your personal conventions for Helper names and using helper classes?

2011-01-21 Thread euromark
of course 100%
$this->Helper

a) cleaner
b) fit for 2.0

:)

On 21 Jan., 15:53, connrs  wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> I suppose this is my first ever post on any CakePHP related forum/group so
> get the unicorns and badger porn out. I've been actively using CakePHP since
> 1.1 and have generally beaten and thrashed the framework into doing what I
> liked until progressively it has become the shiny framework of today.
>
> As I've refactored and refactored over and over, Cake has finally beaten and
> thrashed me into better use of Behavior, Component and Helper; I use those
> three so much now to keep my code tidy and help make testing manageable.
>
> These days, I find that there are times I want to name a helper to match the
> model when working in views. I feel that models named Invoice suit an
> Invoice helper more than concocting weakly linked names; yet, in the past
> I've often mashed up the oddest of names so that I can avoid variable
> collisions. I, personally, find this method much more MVC (I've seen this in
> my occasional expeditions into RoR).
> *
> *
> *TLDR;*
> *
> *
> Since 1.3, have you begun refactoring to take advantage of $this->Helper or
> have you continued to make use of $helper and used creative naming to get
> around things?
> *I guess I'm just trying to gauge whether or not I'm personally taking the
> right path with $this->Helper over $helper*

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