Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
My vote is for a virtual machine, hosting the whole environment, that only you have access to login to. On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:34 PM, John spil...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 6, 1:18 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: But as I said in my earlier post, could you not place in the remotely hosted application a call to your servers to check for a valid license? I know a lot of games are now going this way where you have to be online to be able to play them as the game polls there servers to check your have a valid license. Well if you give access to source anyone can bypass the check quite easily. In fact no license checking has stopped unwanted use of software (games included). The only way to not worry is if you have a self controlled API based service that your client code will be depending upon. Then you can check for the license validity in your trusted server and if it's expired or illegal you just block access so the client side is useless. I have used a couple of zen encrypted applications, it's not always that easy to set up in the server environment for all the PHP/zen versions available. The question is whether your application is costing more than the cost of encrypting/setting up. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
An in-the-middle way would be to obfuscate your code... remove comments, unneeded spaces, change variable names, etc. One could still see the code but it would take alot of time. https://www.google.com/search?q=obfuscate+php On Nov 5, 5:18 pm, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the only options are the previously suggested IonCube and ZendGuard, but whilst they've been around a while, I've only ever encountered IonCube once when downloading a developer version of LemonStand. I suppose what I was trying to say is that whilst in theory this sounds a great idea, the fact that very few of us come into contact with encrypted code possibly goes to show that very few companies go to the bother (or that we don't deem our code to be that precious). To be honest, from my experience of setting up a developers copy of LemonStand for a customer, I think that using IonCube will actually lose them a significant number of potential clients who won't get past the barrier of having to have the neccessary server setup to decrypt the files. But as I said in my earlier post, could you not place in the remotely hosted application a call to your servers to check for a valid license? I know a lot of games are now going this way where you have to be online to be able to play them as the game polls there servers to check your have a valid license. Paul. On Nov 5, 11:17 am, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: Exactly! Just to be clear, we're not dealing with mission critical stuff or bank accounts. The issue is that if you sell a web based application to a company that then runs it on their own infrastructure, it'd be cool to be able to protect your interests somehow and ensure you can manage a recurring annual income from it. I guess one answer is don't build it in PHP, but that's a cop-out! Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:03, WebbedIT wrote: Would never of thought of software at that sort of high end level being developed using uncompiled/unencrypted code of any flavour. Could just see me walking into a bank, having a look at there source code and tweaking a few PHP functions :) On Nov 4, 6:47 pm, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelpothers with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelp others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
I know ioncube is used by JReviews (www.reviewsforjoomla.com), which is a pretty impressive/good Joomla Component. On Nov 5, 5:55 pm, Sandy Wilkins sandy.wilkins...@gmail.com wrote: An in-the-middle way would be to obfuscate your code... remove comments, unneeded spaces, change variable names, etc. One could still see the code but it would take alot of time. https://www.google.com/search?q=obfuscate+php On Nov 5, 5:18 pm, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: I think the only options are the previously suggested IonCube and ZendGuard, but whilst they've been around a while, I've only ever encountered IonCube once when downloading a developer version of LemonStand. I suppose what I was trying to say is that whilst in theory this sounds a great idea, the fact that very few of us come into contact with encrypted code possibly goes to show that very few companies go to the bother (or that we don't deem our code to be that precious). To be honest, from my experience of setting up a developers copy of LemonStand for a customer, I think that using IonCube will actually lose them a significant number of potential clients who won't get past the barrier of having to have the neccessary server setup to decrypt the files. But as I said in my earlier post, could you not place in the remotely hosted application a call to your servers to check for a valid license? I know a lot of games are now going this way where you have to be online to be able to play them as the game polls there servers to check your have a valid license. Paul. On Nov 5, 11:17 am, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: Exactly! Just to be clear, we're not dealing with mission critical stuff or bank accounts. The issue is that if you sell a web based application to a company that then runs it on their own infrastructure, it'd be cool to be able to protect your interests somehow and ensure you can manage a recurring annual income from it. I guess one answer is don't build it in PHP, but that's a cop-out! Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:03, WebbedIT wrote: Would never of thought of software at that sort of high end level being developed using uncompiled/unencrypted code of any flavour. Could just see me walking into a bank, having a look at there source code and tweaking a few PHP functions :) On Nov 4, 6:47 pm, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelpotherswith their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelpothers with their CakePHP related
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
Would never of thought of software at that sort of high end level being developed using uncompiled/unencrypted code of any flavour. Could just see me walking into a bank, having a look at there source code and tweaking a few PHP functions :) On Nov 4, 6:47 pm, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
Exactly! Just to be clear, we're not dealing with mission critical stuff or bank accounts. The issue is that if you sell a web based application to a company that then runs it on their own infrastructure, it'd be cool to be able to protect your interests somehow and ensure you can manage a recurring annual income from it. I guess one answer is don't build it in PHP, but that's a cop-out! Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:03, WebbedIT wrote: Would never of thought of software at that sort of high end level being developed using uncompiled/unencrypted code of any flavour. Could just see me walking into a bank, having a look at there source code and tweaking a few PHP functions :) On Nov 4, 6:47 pm, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
I think the only options are the previously suggested IonCube and ZendGuard, but whilst they've been around a while, I've only ever encountered IonCube once when downloading a developer version of LemonStand. I suppose what I was trying to say is that whilst in theory this sounds a great idea, the fact that very few of us come into contact with encrypted code possibly goes to show that very few companies go to the bother (or that we don't deem our code to be that precious). To be honest, from my experience of setting up a developers copy of LemonStand for a customer, I think that using IonCube will actually lose them a significant number of potential clients who won't get past the barrier of having to have the neccessary server setup to decrypt the files. But as I said in my earlier post, could you not place in the remotely hosted application a call to your servers to check for a valid license? I know a lot of games are now going this way where you have to be online to be able to play them as the game polls there servers to check your have a valid license. Paul. On Nov 5, 11:17 am, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: Exactly! Just to be clear, we're not dealing with mission critical stuff or bank accounts. The issue is that if you sell a web based application to a company that then runs it on their own infrastructure, it'd be cool to be able to protect your interests somehow and ensure you can manage a recurring annual income from it. I guess one answer is don't build it in PHP, but that's a cop-out! Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 5 Nov 2011, at 11:03, WebbedIT wrote: Would never of thought of software at that sort of high end level being developed using uncompiled/unencrypted code of any flavour. Could just see me walking into a bank, having a look at there source code and tweaking a few PHP functions :) On Nov 4, 6:47 pm, Jeremy Burns | Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com wrote: I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organdhelp others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorialshttp://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions sitehttp://ask.cakephp.organd help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
On Nov 6, 1:18 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: But as I said in my earlier post, could you not place in the remotely hosted application a call to your servers to check for a valid license? I know a lot of games are now going this way where you have to be online to be able to play them as the game polls there servers to check your have a valid license. Well if you give access to source anyone can bypass the check quite easily. In fact no license checking has stopped unwanted use of software (games included). The only way to not worry is if you have a self controlled API based service that your client code will be depending upon. Then you can check for the license validity in your trusted server and if it's expired or illegal you just block access so the client side is useless. I have used a couple of zen encrypted applications, it's not always that easy to set up in the server environment for all the PHP/zen versions available. The question is whether your application is costing more than the cost of encrypting/setting up. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
@Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? @Rizki: I used to believe my code was golden and should be protected, then I quickly realised my code was an unmanageable mess. CakePHP has improved my code massively, but anyone who knows how to use CakePHP could recreate whatever I develop fairly quickly if they so wanted to. If you still want to encrypt your code then @majna has given the answer ... zend does not come cheap though and you really do need to ask yourself if giving into the paranoia is worth the expense. I have paid for many licenses of PHP software and only once have I had to decryptit (LemonStand) so even those with truly marketable libraries of code do not protect it in this manner. HTH, Paul On Nov 3, 9:10 pm, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote: Protect as to encode your source code? Usinghttp://www.ioncube.com/orhttp://www.zend.com/en/products/guard/ -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
I can see a point though. If you develop an application that is going to be installed on a customer site, encrypting it in someway gives you a degree of protection, particularly if you sell it on an annual license basis. Without some sort of key, how can you ensure that they are not still using it even when they don't buy a new license? Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 09:13, WebbedIT wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? @Rizki: I used to believe my code was golden and should be protected, then I quickly realised my code was an unmanageable mess. CakePHP has improved my code massively, but anyone who knows how to use CakePHP could recreate whatever I develop fairly quickly if they so wanted to. If you still want to encrypt your code then @majna has given the answer ... zend does not come cheap though and you really do need to ask yourself if giving into the paranoia is worth the expense. I have paid for many licenses of PHP software and only once have I had to decryptit (LemonStand) so even those with truly marketable libraries of code do not protect it in this manner. HTH, Paul On Nov 3, 9:10 pm, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote: Protect as to encode your source code? Usinghttp://www.ioncube.com/orhttp://www.zend.com/en/products/guard/ -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
@Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
I'm thinking of apps running on internal banking servers (real case scenario) where hosting it remotely is a no-no for security reasons. Encrypting that would be pretty fantastic. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit http://www.classoutfit.com On 4 Nov 2011, at 18:42, WebbedIT wrote: @Jeremy: I would be wary of allowing any software licensed annually to be hosted on another server. Apps licensed in this way tend to be more like an SAAS app and as such would be centrally stored to allow for maintenance, upgrades etc. If it is a plugin that we're talking about then the license tends to get you a period of support and access to upgrades, so to let your license expires means you can continue to use the plugin without upgrades/fixes. Have you ever, or no of anyone else, who has bought code where you had to decrypt it (try finding a shared hosting service that has ioncube/ zend guard installed)? Maybe you could have a call from the remote server to a database on your server which checked if a license is valid? HTH, Paul On Nov 4, 9:38 am, AD7six andydawso...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 4, 10:13 am, WebbedIT p...@webbedit.co.uk wrote: @Ryan: If you could not raise a smile at Andy's response in this thread then you really could do with a weekend off. Your response is nicer than Andy's but they both mean the same thing ... Why on earth do you need to protect your code?!? Actually my point (there was no point in my answer) was more this: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=protect+php+files if you can type your question in google and the answer pops up - it's not a question that belongs on any support forum. Less so here, for a question that has nothing specific to do with CakePHP. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
On Nov 3, 5:56 am, rizki novian rizkinov...@gmail.com wrote: please help me,, i want to protect my code with key or something like that.. can anyone solve my problem?? I suggest garlic and hge wooden stakes. AD -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
On Nov 2, 2011, at 23:56, rizki novian wrote: i want to protect my code with key or something like that.. I don't understand the question. Aren't you in complete control of who you give your code to? If you don't want anybody to duplicate your PHP code, then don't give your PHP code to anybody. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
Ryan, at first glance your answer seems very logical, but who knows why, I must admit I have a preference for the one given by Andy... :-D On Nov 3, 10:34 am, Ryan Schmidt google-2...@ryandesign.com wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 23:56, rizki novian wrote: i want to protect my code with key or something like that.. I don't understand the question. Aren't you in complete control of who you give your code to? If you don't want anybody to duplicate your PHP code, then don't give your PHP code to anybody. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
On Nov 3, 2011, at 06:54, alaxos wrote: Ryan, at first glance your answer seems very logical, but who knows why, I must admit I have a preference for the one given by Andy... :-D I am just trying to improve the signal-to-noise ratio of this discussion group, but I fear it is a lost cause. -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
Give me the code and I will keep it safe On Nov 2, 9:56 pm, rizki novian rizkinov...@gmail.com wrote: please help me,, i want to protect my code with key or something like that.. can anyone solve my problem?? thanks regards -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
What. On Nov 3, 10:22 am, ecsyle ecs...@gmail.com wrote: Give me the code and I will keep it safe On Nov 2, 9:56 pm, rizki novian rizkinov...@gmail.com wrote: please help me,, i want to protect my code with key or something like that.. can anyone solve my problem?? thanks regards -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
that is hilarious, thanks for the laugh -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
Re: how can i protect my code from the duplicaters
Protect as to encode your source code? Using http://www.ioncube.com/ or http://www.zend.com/en/products/guard/ -- Our newest site for the community: CakePHP Video Tutorials http://tv.cakephp.org Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://ask.cakephp.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php
