Re: Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-05-01 Thread Sliv

Thanks everyone, great feedback.  I think I will stick with 1.1 for
the time being.  Whenever 1.2 "stable" is released and there are more
docs available, I'll approach the question again keeping your answers
in mind.

On May 1, 7:34 am, francky06l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I face the same dilemma with an application very close to production.
> I have started the migration, however the task is quite hard mainly
> because of :
>
> - multi-language that "should" use the new 1.2 I8n support
> - usage of CJS template in cake 1.1, I now use the JS helper
> - lack of documentation, so quite a lot of digging into the core
> - new validation in 1.2 that should replace my "home made" validation
> - webservices (soap / xml) to review in cake 1.2
> - quite a lot of views that should now use the Form helper
>
> I just can say that 1.2 is great and migrating is not really "hard"
> except in case of intense usage of popular cake 1.2 helpers/components
> (sometime enhanced) that are now handled directly by 1.2 (ie :
> paginators ..etc ..).
> For future releases of my application, migrating is a bit mandatory as
> new features will be based on 1.2 and 1.1 will somehow "die".
>
> On Apr 30, 8:20 am, "Gonzalo Servat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 4/30/07, Sliv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > [..snip..]
> > > If it helps provoke a response, there's still months of dev left in
> > > this current app; it's just me working on it and I don't consider
> > > myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have built
> > > some basic apps and scripts in the past on ye olde LAMP setup.
>
> > I think this would be the key deciding factor. You still have months left of
> > dev so moving over 1.2 is probably not a bad idea. In my case, I have an app
> > to finish super-mega-ASAP and I went over to 1.2 hoping to make use of some
> > new features of 1.2, but ran into a few problems to do with the fact that
> > it's still in development, so I had to go back to 1.1 again (luckily I'm
> > using SVN so it wasn't too much of a big deal to go back)
>
> > Cheers,
> > Gonzalo


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Re: Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-05-01 Thread francky06l

I face the same dilemma with an application very close to production.
I have started the migration, however the task is quite hard mainly
because of :

- multi-language that "should" use the new 1.2 I8n support
- usage of CJS template in cake 1.1, I now use the JS helper
- lack of documentation, so quite a lot of digging into the core
- new validation in 1.2 that should replace my "home made" validation
- webservices (soap / xml) to review in cake 1.2
- quite a lot of views that should now use the Form helper

I just can say that 1.2 is great and migrating is not really "hard"
except in case of intense usage of popular cake 1.2 helpers/components
(sometime enhanced) that are now handled directly by 1.2 (ie :
paginators ..etc ..).
For future releases of my application, migrating is a bit mandatory as
new features will be based on 1.2 and 1.1 will somehow "die".

On Apr 30, 8:20 am, "Gonzalo Servat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/30/07, Sliv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > [..snip..]
> > If it helps provoke a response, there's still months of dev left in
> > this current app; it's just me working on it and I don't consider
> > myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have built
> > some basic apps and scripts in the past on ye olde LAMP setup.
>
> I think this would be the key deciding factor. You still have months left of
> dev so moving over 1.2 is probably not a bad idea. In my case, I have an app
> to finish super-mega-ASAP and I went over to 1.2 hoping to make use of some
> new features of 1.2, but ran into a few problems to do with the fact that
> it's still in development, so I had to go back to 1.1 again (luckily I'm
> using SVN so it wasn't too much of a big deal to go back)
>
> Cheers,
> Gonzalo


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Re: Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-04-30 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 4/30/07, Sliv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> [..snip..]
> If it helps provoke a response, there's still months of dev left in
> this current app; it's just me working on it and I don't consider
> myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have built
> some basic apps and scripts in the past on ye olde LAMP setup.


I think this would be the key deciding factor. You still have months left of
dev so moving over 1.2 is probably not a bad idea. In my case, I have an app
to finish super-mega-ASAP and I went over to 1.2 hoping to make use of some
new features of 1.2, but ran into a few problems to do with the fact that
it's still in development, so I had to go back to 1.1 again (luckily I'm
using SVN so it wasn't too much of a big deal to go back)

Cheers,
Gonzalo

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Re: Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-04-30 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)


On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:10 AM, Sliv wrote:

>
> The current app I'm working on has been keeping up with the latest
> release versions of the 1.1 branch.  I'm seeing more and more posts
> about 1.2, including folks building prod apps using this branch.
>
> I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be a good idea for me to
> upgrade to 1.2 on my current app and spend some time moving towards
> the new functionality, or just continue on with 1.1.
>
> My concern is being left in the dust on some of these new functions
> that 1.2 is apparently producing as time goes on...
>
> If it helps provoke a response, there's still months of dev left in
> this current app; it's just me working on it and I don't consider
> myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have built
> some basic apps and scripts in the past on ye olde LAMP setup.

It kinda depends: I like to stay with 1.2 SVN because I get the  
latest fixes and features.

The drawback with 1.2 is that there won't be any official docs until  
the dust starts to settle. We're already working on the new manual,  
but not everything will get covered really soon. If you can see  
yourself getting frustrated at using things that aren't yet  
documented, you might want to wait.

However, if you're willing to work with us and understand that 1.2 is  
in the works, I'd give 1.2 a try.

-- John

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Re: Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-04-30 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani

On 4/30/07, Sliv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be a good idea for me to
> upgrade to 1.2 on my current app and spend some time moving towards
> the new functionality, or just continue on with 1.1.

I would say if it is not a commercial app ready to go live soon - move
over to 1.2 and if you have done your programming the Cake way moving
should not be more than a matter of correcting deprecated calls

HTH

T

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Upgrade Path From 1.1 to 1.2

2007-04-30 Thread Sliv

The current app I'm working on has been keeping up with the latest
release versions of the 1.1 branch.  I'm seeing more and more posts
about 1.2, including folks building prod apps using this branch.

I'm looking for opinions on whether it would be a good idea for me to
upgrade to 1.2 on my current app and spend some time moving towards
the new functionality, or just continue on with 1.1.

My concern is being left in the dust on some of these new functions
that 1.2 is apparently producing as time goes on...

If it helps provoke a response, there's still months of dev left in
this current app; it's just me working on it and I don't consider
myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I have built
some basic apps and scripts in the past on ye olde LAMP setup.


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