Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[James Saxe via Callers]

On Dec 16, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bill Olson wrote, regarding the dance
"Three Thirty-Three [Thirty-Three]":

> I personally like the original
[with

B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5 

]
> best of all and don't really think it's hard to teach if you pay attention to 
> telling everyone where they're going to end up after B2 (basically that the 
> Women are crossing the set to find new Neighbors). 

I agree that one of the keys to teaching the do-si-so in B2
is to let people know where they're going to end up, and in
particular to get the ladies to identify their next neighbors.
However, once they have identified their next neighbors, there
is a danger that some ladies will want to do the do-si-do with
their next neighbor lady.  So be sure to call their attention
back to the other lady in their current foursome before you
walk them through the do-si-do.  Also if you use the word
"diagonal" in describing the do-si-do, be sure to make it
clear (in words the dancers will easily understand and at a
time when you have their attention) that you're talking about
a diagonal within their current foursome.  Contra dancers are
more accustomed to hearing the word "diagonal" used for an
action involving a couple from the next foursome up or down
the set.

And now a word about *Fractions*:

The action at the end of B2 is notated as being once and a half
because it causes two ladies to exchange places (along a slight
left diagonal within their foursome).  But in contra dancing we
more commonly use "ladies do-si-do once and a half" to describe
an action that would take them (from the same starting position)
to their current neighbor gent, as in this example from "Scout
House Reel":

 A2. ...
 Ladies chain [across] to partner
 B1. Ladies do-si-so 1.5
 Neighbors swing

The usage in the description of "Scout House Reel" is based on
an unspoken convention that when dancers start from facing
couples, we often calculate the ending position of a action for
the two ladies or an action for the two gents as if the two
participants were starting out directly across the set from
each other.

While it is arguably technically more accurate to use the
words "once and a half" to describe an action like the do-si-do
in B2 of "Three Thirty-Three" than to use them for an action
the do-si-do in the B1 of "Scout House Reel", the latter usage
is certainly more common.  In practice, I think that using any
*other* fraction (such as 1 3/8 or 1 5/8) to describe either of
those actions would be more confusing for the dancers.  So the
only good way to distinguish the two actions, and particularly
to describe the less common one, is to give some additional
information besides the nominal amount (1 1/2) of do-si-do.
The obvious additional information would be who you meet next
and where you meet them.

 * * * * * * * * * *

Analogous remarks to the ones above apply for teaching the gents'
allemande at the end of "Thanks to the Gene" by Tom Hinds.

--Jim

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Bree Kalb via Callers]

I agree with Mark! This is a fabulous dance as it is and the dosido for the
women is just hard enough to be a fun challenge. (When I was a new dancer,
dosido 1 1/2 was the hardest move for me to do gracefully and on time. I
was so happy when I got it right!) When the caller teaches the alternate
B2, I hide my disappointment, but its not as satisfying as the original.

On Friday, December 16, 2016, Mark Hillegonds via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have always used the original version and don't ever recall the dancers
> having trouble with the DSD progression. While I respect and admire the
> folks creating variants they find helpful for their needs, for me, if it
> ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it.
>
> Also, I must say that pleased me greatly to see Maia's reference to my
> home town of Ann Arbor!!!  :)
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2016 4:27 PM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> > wrote:
>
> Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid
> ladies chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four':
> long lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that
> ladies' allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't
> flow, is bizarrely counterintuitive!
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I
>> preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic,
>> and i call it often..
>>
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Callers > >
>> on behalf of Kalia Kliban via Callers > >
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM
>> *To:* callers@lists.sharedweight.net
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson
>>
>> On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote:
>> > 3-33-33
>> >
>> > Steve Zakon (Duple improper)
>> > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat
>> > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing
>> > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing
>> > B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5
>> >
>> > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was
>> > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about
>> > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..
>>
>> I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L
>> is pretty counterintuitive for the women.  It causes some glitches as
>> folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R.  It works, but
>> you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the
>> non-obvious hand there.
>>
>> Kalia
>>
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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi,

I have always used the original version and don't ever recall the dancers
having trouble with the DSD progression. While I respect and admire the
folks creating variants they find helpful for their needs, for me, if it
ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it.

Also, I must say that pleased me greatly to see Maia's reference to my home
town of Ann Arbor!!!  :)


On Dec 16, 2016 4:27 PM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid ladies
chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': long
lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that ladies'
allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't flow, is
bizarrely counterintuitive!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I
> preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic,
> and i call it often..
>
>
> bill
>
>
> --
> *From:* Callers  on behalf of
> Kalia Kliban via Callers 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM
> *To:* callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson
>
> On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote:
> > 3-33-33
> >
> > Steve Zakon (Duple improper)
> > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat
> > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing
> > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing
> > B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5
> >
> > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was
> > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about
> > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..
>
> I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L
> is pretty counterintuitive for the women.  It causes some glitches as
> folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R.  It works, but
> you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the
> non-obvious hand there.
>
> Kalia
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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Maia McCormick via Callers]

Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid ladies
chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': long
lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that ladies'
allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't flow, is
bizarrely counterintuitive!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I
> preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic,
> and i call it often..
>
>
> bill
>
>
> --
> *From:* Callers  on behalf of
> Kalia Kliban via Callers 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM
> *To:* callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson
>
> On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote:
> > 3-33-33
> >
> > Steve Zakon (Duple improper)
> > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat
> > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing
> > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing
> > B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5
> >
> > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was
> > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about
> > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..
>
> I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L
> is pretty counterintuitive for the women.  It causes some glitches as
> folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R.  It works, but
> you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the
> non-obvious hand there.
>
> Kalia
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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Bill Olson via Callers]

Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I preferred 
the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic, and i call it 
often..


bill



From: Callers  on behalf of Kalia 
Kliban via Callers 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM
To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote:
> 3-33-33
>
> Steve Zakon (Duple improper)
> A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat
> A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing
> B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing
> B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5
>
> I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was
> replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about
> this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..

I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L
is pretty counterintuitive for the women.  It causes some glitches as
folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R.  It works, but
you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the
non-obvious hand there.

Kalia

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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Perry Shafran via Callers]

Dugan,
I have seen what you call 4-44 called by others as a variation of 3-33, but I 
do not know if it actually exists as another dance with a different title, or 
just as a variation of 3-33.  

Perry

  From: Dugan Murphy via Callers 
 To: Callers List Serve  
 Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:12 PM
 Subject: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson
   
Dear Shared Weighters,
I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a different 
B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and for me to teach. 
 Does this dance already exist under another title?  If not, I'd like to call 
it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's creation.
4-44 by Dugan Murphy
A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)A2 Neighbor 
three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12)B1 
Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8)B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand 
star (8)
Please let me know if this sequence already has a name.
I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver
A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)A2 Neighbor 
three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one swing (12)B1 
Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8)B2 Circle left three places 
(8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California twirl (4)
Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about?
Dugan MurphyPortland, Maine
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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Yoyo Zhou via Callers]

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dugan Murphy via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know
> about?
>

Tom Hinds has written Four, Forty-Four, Forty-Four (similar to, but not
identical to, your name) and Five, Fifty-Five, Fifty-Five.

Ants Marching by Ron Blechner is also fun:

http://contradances.tumblr.com/post/10510984149/ants-marching

Yoyo Zhou

Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Donna Hunt via Callers]

Dugan:  I'm sure there are many out there.
  Here's one that I wrote.

Ken's 60th Birthday Bash  



by Donna Hunt

Duple Improper




A1

Neighbor #1 Balance and pull by Right 
Neighbor #2 pull by Left
Neighbor #3 Balance and Box the Gnat with Right




A2

Neighbor #3 pull by Right, Neighbor #2 pull by Left,
 Swing Neighbor #1



B1

Gents Allemande Left 1 1/2
Partner Swing 



B2

Promenade across set 
Ladies Chain






Note: Credit for A1 and A2 goes to Steve Zakon-Anderson's 3-33-33






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From: Dugan Murphy via Callers 
To: Callers List Serve 
Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2016 2:13 pm
Subject: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson



Dear Shared Weighters,


I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a different 
B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and for me to teach. 
 Does this dance already exist under another title?  If not, I'd like to call 
it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's creation.


4-44 by Dugan Murphy


A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one 
swing (12)
B1 Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand star (8)


Please let me know if this sequence already has a name.


I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver



A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one 
swing (12)
B1 Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Circle left three places (8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California twirl 
(4)


Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about?





Dugan Murphy
Portland, Maine

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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Bill Olson via Callers]

Hi Dugan and all,... let's get the original dance down here: originally the 
dance was titled 3-33-33. The title had to do with the way the money split on a 
tour Steve took with "Fresh Fish" back in the 80's (I think). I have the author 
as Steve Zakon back then.. but now this guy Steve Zakon-Anderson takes credit 
and changed the name of the dance to 3-33 (hah hah) ... anyway...


3-33-33

Steve Zakon (Duple improper)

A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat

A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing

B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing

B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5


I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was replaced 
by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about this and he 
referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..


I personally like the original best of all and don't really think it's hard to 
teach if you pay attention to telling everyone where they're going to end up 
after B2 (basically that the Women are crossing the set to find new Neighbors). 
The LLF leads nicely to the gents assisting the women to start the DSD..


so that's my $.02 worth..


bill



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Murphy via Callers 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:12 PM
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Subject: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

Dear Shared Weighters,

I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a different 
B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and for me to teach. 
 Does this dance already exist under another title?  If not, I'd like to call 
it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's creation.

4-44 by Dugan Murphy

A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one 
swing (12)
B1 Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand star (8)

Please let me know if this sequence already has a name.

I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver

A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two pull by 
left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor one 
swing (12)
B1 Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Circle left three places (8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California twirl 
(4)

Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about?

Dugan Murphy
Portland, Maine

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[Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Dugan Murphy via Callers]

Dear Shared Weighters,

I wanted to call "3-33" by Steve Zakon-Anderson recently, but with a
different B2 progression that would be easier for dancers to execute and
for me to teach.  Does this dance already exist under another title?  If
not, I'd like to call it "4-44" to present it in clear homage to Steve's
creation.

4-44 by Dugan Murphy

A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two
pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor
one swing (12)
B1 Circle left three places (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Ladies chain (8); Left hand star (8)

Please let me know if this sequence already has a name.

I am already aware of "334" by Diane Silver

A1 Neighbor one right hand balance (4); pull by right (2); neighbor two
pull by left (2); Neighbor three right hand balance (4); box the gnat (4)
A2 Neighbor three pull by right (2); Neighbor 2 pull by left (2); Neighbor
one swing (12)
B1 Gents left hand allemande 1.5 (8); Partner swing (8)
B2 Circle left three places (8); Balance the ring (4); Partner California
twirl (4)

Question two: are there other 3-33-inspired dances out there you know about?

Dugan Murphy
Portland, Maine

dugan at duganmurphy.com
www.PortlandIntownContraDance.com
www.NufSed.consulting

Re: [Callers] Catapult 2017 looking for callers

[Keith Tuxhorn via Callers]

Terrific research, Jeff! Let me add a couple "variables" and info bits...

-Because Ladies at Play (from OK) and I (from TX) were both at C-13, we had
a great turnout of dancers, and bookers from that area in Atlanta... You'll
notice that Austin, Dallas, and OKC are among the best at booking Catapult
talent, and the class of '13 benefitted most.

Except me, which is easy to understand--I was a familiar face who could be
hired anytime, and wouldn't be a "special selling point" for any weekends
there.

-The TX/OK dance groups have a friendly/competitive attitude about "booking
the hot new band first", and I think that may drive booking the emerging
bands a little.

-And the only way those two states can get big-name bands is to book them
for weekends, and they don't want to book the same legacy bands year after
year. They want freshness and variety. So maybe that drives the willingness
to hire less-known bands more, too.

-Ladies at Play also played the High Tea ECD weekend 2016.

-I did have a "2nd caller" role at Fire Ant Frolic '13. And I became the
featured caller at Flamingo Fling, June '13 when/where George Marshall had
his heart attack, and I was asked to fill in, calling with Crowfoot that
evening. So, technically, I guess I got my first weekend job quicker than
any other caller after appearing at Catapult...;-)

Keith Tuxhorn
Springfield, IL

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Jeff Kaufman 
wrote:

> This thread got me thinking about whether I could figure out the
> effect of catapult from looking at later dance weekend bookings.  I
> didn't make much progress, but people might be interested in the data:
> http://www.jefftk.com/p/effect-of-catapult
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Keith Tuxhorn via Callers
>  wrote:
> > What Luke said! I answered in much the same way on a FB post to a similar
> > query.
> >
> > I was a caller on the 2013 roster with Luke. It was one of the most
> > enjoyable experiences of my life.
> >
> > And what Rob said! Catapult get a good amount of national attention,
> thanks
> > to the way Rob's done it. The majority of attendees still come from the
> > southeast, but increasing numbers are coming from all over.
> >
> > And Rob, if you need any help, get in touch, I'd be happy to.
> >
> > Keith Tuxhorn
> > Springfield, IL
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers
> >  wrote:
> 
> 
> >>> How many of you out there have participated in this?  What did you
> think
> >>> of it?  I'm curious, but not sure whether I'm what they're looking
> for, or
> >>> vice versa.  And it's a long way to travel for a short gig.
> >>>
> >>> Kalia
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'll weigh in as someone who called there in 2013.
> >>
> >> I had a great time
> >> It helped me get some other festival gigs
> >> It nucleated relationships with bands
> >> I've directly mentioned this to some callers who aren't on this list,
> >> encouraging them to apply
> >> If selected, they cover the direct cost for you to come out
> >> It's a short gig, but it's also a dance festival you get to attend ~70%
> of
> >> as a dancer with expenses paid
> >> I think the process of going through the application is worthwhile in
> >> helping define your own goals
> >> I'm enough in favor of it that I've volunteered to help as I can for
> >> future years
> >> It puts you in Georgia during peach season (I think I ate half a crate
> >> while I was there, fresh at the farmers market. SO good)
> >>
> >>
> >> It got some initial buzz as a sort of America's Got Talent - Contra
> >> Edition. That wasn't the vibe fore me at all. The 6 callers got
> together and
> >> had wonderful chats about calling; both the stage craft and the
> >> back-of-house stuff. I'm closer with all of them as a result. It's
> probably
> >> one of the few opportunities for that many callers to get together and
> work
> >> a festival together (I found it a much more collaborative and bonding
> >> experience than calling at NEFFA, which doesn't cover travel costs)
> >>
> >> I'm happy to talk about it one-on-one if you have more specific
> questions.
> >> I'm also happy to publicly endorse applying if you're interested.
> >>
> >> And like Rob, I'll also admit to being biased.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Luke Donforth
> >> luke.donfo...@gmail.com
> >>
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