Re: [Callers] dances

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Webster Hall Reel, by Don Theyken. Not sure if it's OK to share so
publicly, so I'll send it to you offline.

It has a lovely English-y move to get into the CC. Looks simple on the
card, but can be quite disorienting for newer or otherwise
geographically-challenged dancers.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 2:55 PM Charles Abell via Callers <
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> There was a recent discussion of easy contra corners dances on here. As I
> have a nice body of beginner level CC dances, I am looking to add some more
> challenging contra corners dances into my repertoire. What do you all got?
> (Triplets are okay, but definitely some in contra formation ...)
>
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Re: [Callers] Contras with square dance figures

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi, Rachel,

Below that are four contras with box circulates:

*24th of October*
by Don Lennartson
Contra/Becket-CW/Int

A1 ---
(8)  LL F & B
(8)  Ladies chain (to Neighbor)
A2 ---
(8)  LH star 1x
(8)  (W/ next) Neighbor alle R 1+1/2 (to long waves, G face in, L out)
B1 ---
(4,4)  Waves balance, Circulate (G cross, L loop)
(4,4)  Waves balance, Circulate (L cross, G loop)
B2 ---
(4,4)  Waves balance, Circulate (G cross, L loop)
(8)  Partner swing

*Du Quoin Races*
by Orace Johnson
Contra/Becket-CW/Int

A1 ---
(4,4) Rings balance,Pass through to a wave
(4,4) Waves balance,Partner alle R 3/4 (to long waves, G face out, L
face in)
A2 ---
(4,4) Waves balance,Box circulate (Ladies cross, Gents loop R)
(4,4) Waves balance,Box circulate (Gents cross, Ladies loop R)
B1 ---
(8) Partner swing (on same side as started on)
(4,4) Circle L 1/2, Neighbor roll away (across) with half sashay
B2 ---
(4,4) Circle L 1/2, Partner roll away (along) with half sashay
(4,4) Circle L 1/2, Slide L (to face new Neighbors)

*Pecan Pie*
by Jim Hemphill
Contra/Proper/Int

A1 ---
(8) Neighbor DSD to wave across (Same gender N in RH)
(4,4) Wave balance R & L,Neighbor alle R 3/4 (to long waves)
A2 ---
(4,4) Long waves balance R and back,Box circulate (people facing in
cross to P)
(8) Partner swing
B1 ---
(8,8) Circle L 3/4, Neighbor swing
B2 ---
(4,4) Partner RH balance, Box the Gnat
(8) 2s swing  (2s face up, 1s face down)

*Waving Wheat*
by Dotty Welch
Contra/Improper/Easy-Int

A1 ---
(8) Neighbor do si do to wave across (Neighbor RH, Ladies LH)
(8) Wave balance R & L, Neighbor alle R 3/4 (to long waves, Gents OUT,
Ladies IN)
A2 ---
(8) Long waves balance F & B, Box circulate (Ladies cross, Gents loop R)
(8) Partner swing (on Gent’s side)
B1 ---
(8) LL F & B
(8) R & L thru
B2 ---
(8) Circle L 1-1/4 (FAST, to home)
(8) 2s arch, 1s duck thru, all forward to next Neighbor


On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:51 PM Rachel Shapiro via Callers <
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> Hi all,
> I'm in search of contras that have borrowed interesting figures from
> traditional and modern western square dances. Do you have any favorites
> you're willing to share? I've got Rang Tang Contra and some dances with
> Dixie Twirls. Lots with Box the Gnat and Swat the Flea. Any others you love?
> Thank you!
> Rachel Shapiro Wallace
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Re: [Callers] Circles, Crazy Circles

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi, Rich,

Here are a few more for your consideration:

Labor of Love, Kathy Anderson
Alter-Ations, Jim Kitch
Blue-Haired Girl, Chuck Roth
Chrus Jig (Traditional) - Not modern, but still widely appreciated
ContraQuad, Seth Tepfer
Coray's Silver Jubilee (4 face 4), Carol Ormand
Crunchy Cheese, Carol Ormand
Dance All Night (4 face 4), Rick Mohr
Dancing With A Pirate, Jo Mortland
Fairport Harbor, Paul Balliet
Fly Around My Pretty Littls Miss, Dale Wilson
Fruit Punch, Diane Silver
Furthermore, Scott Higgs
Hey There, Tom Hinds
Joyride, Eric Weberg
Mad Robin Migration, Jim Hemphill
Marian's Delight, Carol Kopp
Meliza's Magical Mystery Motion, Cary Ravitz
Of The Mills, John Gallagher
Paddy On The Computer Chair, Martha Wild
Pigtown Petronella, Cary Ravitz
Princeton Petronella, Bob Isaacs
Rick O'Shea's Hey, Jiim Hemphill
Rollin' and Tumblin', Cis HInkle
Snake River Reel, Peter Lippencott
There Is No Way To Peace, Peace Is The Way, Erik Hoffman
Trip to Lambertville, Steve Zakon-Anderson
Webster Hall Reel, Don Theyken
Winder in Summerland, Jeff Spero/James Hutson

Enjoy!!!



On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM Rich Sbardella via Callers <
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> Helo Folks,
>
> This group has been so quiet lately.  The group has been so important for
> me as I developed my Contra calling repertoire and skills, so I thought I'd
> initiate a conversation.
>
> As I sit here programming a dance I realize that I do not have many dances
> without circles.  Many that I do have, do not have a Neighbor Swing, or
> have a Give & Take to cheat it out.  Those factors limit where and when I
> can use them.
>
> I generally like to program two no circle dances in each half, and also a
> NO neighbor Swing dance in at least one half if not both halves of an
> evening.  Any thoughts on this?
>
> Does anyone want to share some modern contras that have no Circles and no
> Give & Takes, but include a partner and neighbor swing.
>
> Here are a few I have used.
>
> Just for NEFFA, Linda Leslie
> Rollin' and Tumblin'. Cis Hinkle
> Rocket City Romp, Cis Hinkle
> Travels with Rick and Kim, Shari Miller Johnson
> Friday Night Fever, Tony Parkes
>
> Thanks,
> Rich Sbardella
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] Great dances for learning how to dance with ghosts?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Ken,

I just happened to be pulling dances for an upcoming gig. One of the dances
I selected is Lisa's Contra (Tom Hinds) that has an out and back in A2 that
may work for your purposes.

Looking forward to seeing other suggestions.

Lisa’s Contra
by Tom Hinds
Contra/Improper/Int

A1 ---
(16)  Neighbor B & S
A2 ---
(4,4)  Pass thru to a wave, Wave balance
(2,4,2)  Walk forward to person in next wave (don't take hands),  Gypsy R
1/2,  Walk back to re-form original wave, but facing opposite direction (N
in RH, Gents LH)
B1 ---
(4,4)  Wave balance, Gents alle L 1/2
(8)  Partner swing
B2 ---
(6,2)  Circle L 3/4, Pass thru up and down
(8)  Next Neighbor do si do

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Re: [Callers] Looking for "fun" dances

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi all,

Here's another contrary circling dance that I've had good success with:

*Esmerelda's Revenge*
Beth Parkes, Circle Mixer

A1  Circle in and back   /   Circle in, Ladies stay in (face in), Gents
back out (face in)
A2  Ladies single file to L, Gents single file R   /   Turn around, Back to
Partner
B1  Partner DSD   /   Corner (to L of Partner) alle L 1x, Pass Partner by R
B2  Next person (new partner) B & S


On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:58 AM, John Sweeney via Callers <
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> Since so many people enjoy the contrary circling in The Wheel, you might
> enjoy this one as well:
>
> Suicide Square
> http://www.ceilidhcalling.co.uk/danceviewpage.php?view=1=9
>
> It is extremely chaotic!  You can reduce the chaos slightly by getting the
> band to stop randomly during the circling, at which point everyone grabs a
> partner; the band waits a few seconds while everyone finds a partner and
> decides whether they are Heads or Sides, then gives two notes and starts
> the
> next Heads Gallop.
>
> I modify it to give a bit more recovery time:
>
> Start in a big square around the room
> A1: Head couples take partner in a ballroom hold and gallop eight steps
> into the centre and back
> A2: Sides gallop eight steps into the centre and back
> B1: All the men form an outer circle facing in, while the ladies form
> an
> inner circle facing out. All circle left then find a new partner
> B2: Partner Swing - stop early enough to decide whether you are now
> Heads or Sides - Heads get ready to gallop
>
> There is also The Muffin Man Jig:
> http://www.ceilidhcalling.co.uk/danceviewpage.php?view=1=11
>
> Happy dancing,
>John
>
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Re: [Callers] Contra Dances with Modern Western Square Dance Figures

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Thanks all for the great suggestions. Lots of new, good stuff in my box now
for the workshop and beyond!

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Mark Hillegonds 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm preparing for a workshop at a dance weekend in November where the
> theme will be contra dances that incorporate square dance moves.
>
> I have a number dances with square thrus and swing thrus and box
> circulates. However, these moves are fairly well known at this point. This
> will be an advanced group of dancers so I'm looking for dances that
> incorporate more unique and sophisicated moves.
>
> I know Bob Isaacs has several that quality, with dances that use Spin the
> Top and Spin Chain Exchange the Gears.
>
> Looking forward to seeing what you may have.
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[Callers] How to Use Archives? Are they working?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi all,

Are the Sharedweight Archives working? I can't seem to get any searches to
return results.

I tried to search the archives for various square dance moves, but kept
getting 0 results. So I tried terms that really ought to return results and
still got nothing.

For example:  when I search for the word "ladies", I get 0 (zero) results.
Same when I search for the word "chain". Just to see if it mattered, I
tried with and without quotes and both upper and lower cases...no dice!

The few options available for entering search criteria would seem to limit
the possibility to screw it up. So I"m scratching my head on this.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks.

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[Callers] Contra Dances with Modern Western Square Dance Figures

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi all,

I'm preparing for a workshop at a dance weekend in November where the theme
will be contra dances that incorporate square dance moves.

I have a number dances with square thrus and swing thrus and box
circulates. However, these moves are fairly well known at this point. This
will be an advanced group of dancers so I'm looking for dances that
incorporate more unique and sophisicated moves.

I know Bob Isaacs has several that quality, with dances that use Spin the
Top and Spin Chain Exchange the Gears.

Looking forward to seeing what you may have.

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Re: [Callers] Does This Sequence Exist?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi, Jerome,

My comments and question are based on my interpretation of the dance that
the progression occurs in A1, when the Gent rolls the NEXT neighbor from L
to R and that the neighbor swing in B2 is with this same (now current)
Neighbor. With that...

It seems to me that the Circle R to Neighbor swing in B2 might be a bit
awkward. The person dancing the Ladies role in particular has quite a
change in momentum. Perhaps the Lady can roll out over her right shoulder
into the swing?

If you have tried this dance with people and up to speed, what sort of
feedback did you get on that transition?

Mark

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Jerome Grisanti via Callers <
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>
>>>
> I wonder if this sequence has already been written (and titled):
>
> Trip to Kentucky
> Improper contra
> Jerome Grisanti (unless prior claim exists)
>
> A1: Long lines go forward, roll away as you go back (women moving from
> left to right in front of their neighbors).
> Men allemande left 1.5.
>
> A2: Partner B & S.
>
> B1: Right & Left Thru, Ladies chain.
>
> B2: Circle RIGHT 1x, Neighbors swing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jerome
>
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Re: [Callers] Positional Calling

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

[EDITED TO ADD] Just want to add some transparency that I'm not affiliated
with LCFD nor have I yet been to one of their dance (though I hope to at
some point). I found their site and this link when I was doing some
research a couple of years ago around setting up a gender-free dance in MI.

Hi, Jeremy,

The Lavender Country and Folk Dancers (LCFD) use some positional references
in their gender-free English Country Dances. Might want to check it out:
http://lcfd.org/gf-ecd-calling-conventions.html

Looking forward to hearing more about this as others respond.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mark Hillegonds 
wrote:

> Hi, Jeremy,
>
> The Lavender Country and Folk Dancers (LCFD) use some positional
> references in their gender-free English Country Dances. Might want to check
> it out:  http://lcfd.org/gf-ecd-calling-conventions.html
>
> Looking forward to hearing more about this as others respond.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Jeremy Child via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> In the past there has been a lot of discussion on this group about gender
>> free calling, and in particular about the terms used for the two roles.
>>
>> This got me thinking as to whether it would be possible to eliminate the
>> use of role names and call using just positional references.
>>
>> Some significant thought later, I came up with a system that I believe
>> could, in theory, work.  This is largely an intellectual exercise rather
>> than a serious suggestion, but I would appreciate any comments / feedback /
>> thoughts / ideas you have.
>>
>> The details are at: http://barndancecaller.net/PositionalCalling.html
>>
>> (There is a link to another document I have written about gender free
>> calling - this is primarily aimed at English Barn Dance / Ceilidh calling.)
>>
>> Jeremy
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[Callers] Allen Ortep's First Contra

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi all,

Allen Ortep's First Contra was shared with this group in November, 2012.
Just wondering if anyone has successfully called this dance. I ask because
I've tried a few times with some adventurous and skilled dancers and have
never gotten it to work. So I'm wondering if I have the instructions right.

I tried searching the SharedWeight archives and am not getting any results.
(In fact, I get no results even if I search for Contra. So now I'm feeling
very technologically challenged!)

Below are the instructions as I copied then and then double-checked them.at
the time.

Does anyone see any mistakes or have any other thoughts? Thanks.

Allen Ortep’s First Contra
by  Michael Fuerst
Contra/Improper/Int-Adv

A1 ---
(8) LH star
(8) R diag R & L thru
A2 ---
(4,4) LL F & B, On way back, Gents roll Partner R to L
(6,2) Circle R 3/4, Pass thru (along)
B1 ---
(16)  New Neighbor B & S
B2 ---
(4,4) Rings balance, Spin to L
(8) Partner swing

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Re: [Callers] I think this might work....

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Looks like a nice dance, Kelsey. The pushback/ricochet into a swing is one
of my favorite combinations of moves.

I must say, however, that I'm not familiar with the Jersey twirl. It is
just a CA twirl, but with the opposite hands, and then you use the joined
hands (Gent's left, Lady's right) to pull into the swing?

Thanks again for sharing!  :)

Mark

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Kelsey Hartman via Callers <
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> Hi! Had an idea and wanted to share it with y'all!
>
> Venturing Vortices
> Improper by Kelsey Hartman 3.18.2017
> {Started out as a dance written for the Ides of March (called Berkeley
> dance 3.15.2017) called "Take a Stab at It,"
> ​
> (Sharon Gavin suggested the title)
> ​
> but the B1's timing didn't quite work. Loved the flow of the A1 and A2 so
> re-wrote the ending and renamed it.}
> A1: (16) Balance the ring and jersey twirl to swing neighbor
> A2: (16) Gents start 1/2 hey and ladies ricochet back to partner SWING
> B1: (16) (eFace away from partner) pass Shadow #1 by left, Shadow #2 by
> right, LEFT shoulder round Shadow #3, RETURN pass #2 by right, #1 by left
> B2: (8) Circle Left with partner and current neighbors 3/4, CA twirl and
> (8) Circle Right 1x around (move it!)
>
> Would love comments...thanks, Dan Veino for sharing the jersey twirl...
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Re: [Callers] Full hey spanning two phrases?

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Hi, Maia,

At the risk of this not being exactly what you're looking for in a dance,
I'll share Julie's Gypsies.

The ladies dance the path of a full hey path across the A1 and A2 phrases.
I even describe it to the ladies as tracing the path of a hey. However, the
gents stay on their side.

I've had lots of complements and no mentions of concern about the figure
crossing the phrases. Perhaps it's different enough from a hey as it's
called and taught more at the component figure level as opposed to a single
figure.

In any case, wanted to share in case you found it helpful.

*4.  Julie’s Gypsies, Mark Hillegonds, Improper*
START:  (Long waves, L face in, G face out, N in RH)
A1:  Long waves balance R & L, N alle R 1x   /   Ladies pass L SH, Partner
gypsy R 1x
A2:  Ladies pass L SH, Neighbor swing
B1:  Circle Left 3/4   /   Partner swing
B2:  Ladies chain (to Neighbor)   /   LH Star 1x (to new Neighbor in RH)


On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
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> Thanks for the dances, all!
>
> I suppose I should restate my question a little: for you, what sort of
> things make a hey-spanning-two-phrases feel like it WORKS? To quote Jerome,
> what makes it seem like "a feature and not a bug"?
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Vicki Morrison 
> wrote:
>
>> Take All of the Credit, None of the Blame by Larry Elderman has a full
>> hey with bonus balances that spans 24 beats, if this is similar to what
>> you're looking for:
>>
>> A1 N dosido 1.25 to short wavy lines (8); bal R-L (4), N alle rt 1/2, men
>> alle left 1/2
>> A2 give P your right hand and bal (4), 1/2 (pass by right) to the other
>> side (8), give P your right hand and balance
>> B1 1/2 hey, P swing
>> B2 prom; ladies chain
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>> Maia,
>>
>> I wrote a simple square "Hey Square, Let's Dance" that has the hey
>> crossing phrases.
>> It must be called Heads, Sides, Heads, Sides to have a complete mixer
>> square.
>>
>> A1 Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line, F
>> A2 Ladies Chain, Start a Full Hey
>> B1 Finish the Hey, Swing the one you meet
>> B2 Promenade
>>
>> I have only shared this with one caller, and she remarked that the hey
>> crosses phrases, and she would not use it.
>> I must often use it wit singing calls, or square dance music that has
>> strong 8 beat phrasing.
>>
>> Bob Isaacs "To Turn a Phrase" has the Oval crossing phrases.  I have
>> danced it when it feels good, but also when it did not.  I think the music
>> selection is more critical.
>>
>> Rich Sbardella
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Maia McCormick via Callers <
>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I'm running up against a wall in a dance I'm currently writing, and
>>> it's making me wonder: what dances, if any, have a full hey that spans two
>>> sections* and really WORKS?  I feel like in general, if I danced such a
>>> dance, I would roll my eyes at the choreographer "breaking the rules", but
>>> I can also imagine delightful dances a hey spanning two phrases that
>>> justify their own existence and feel great to dance.
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Dances to point me to?
>>>
>>> As always, in dance,
>>> Maia
>>>
>>> * e.g. hey occurs during the last eight counts of B1 and the first
>>> eight of B2
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Re: [Callers] Difficult dancers - Decision to ask not to return

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Lots of thoughtful discussion and ideas about how to incorporate difficult
dancers.

Splitting this into another variant of this discussion...

So...what happens if all of the attempts to shepherd and coach and "angel"
the difficult dancer do not work and their skills and abilities continue to
be a significant negative impact when they're dancing.

Would you ever (or have you ever) asked someone not to return based on
their inability to dance?

I realize "inability" is a broad term and I intended it to be so for this
question. There are lots of reasons why someone may not be able to know
what to do and/or to be able to keep up when dancing and may not even be
able to improve.

Is there some point at which you as organizers would consider and
ultimately such a decision?

On Mar 6, 2017 6:46 PM, "Alexandra Deis-Lauby via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Inspired by Marie's other thread, I wonder what tools callers use when they
encounter a dance floor with such a dancer, especially if there is only one
who is having so much difficulty but who leaves confused dancers in their
wake. Do you call to that dancer? Do you call earlier? Do you adjust your
program accordingly? Something else?

Thanks,
Alex


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Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi,

I have always used the original version and don't ever recall the dancers
having trouble with the DSD progression. While I respect and admire the
folks creating variants they find helpful for their needs, for me, if it
ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it.

Also, I must say that pleased me greatly to see Maia's reference to my home
town of Ann Arbor!!!  :)


On Dec 16, 2016 4:27 PM, "Maia McCormick via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

Fwiw, if I were to write a variation of 3-33-33 (and wanted to avoid ladies
chain/star L), I'd do a figure like in Al Olson's 'Ann Arbor Four': long
lines (8), P alle. R 3/4 (4), ladies alle. L 1/2 (4). Agreed that ladies'
allemande L out of long lines, while there's no reason it doesn't flow, is
bizarrely counterintuitive!

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Bill Olson via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi Kalia, yep, I agree.. I guess I should have said more about why I
> preferred the original.. Anyway this is a great dance, a modern classic,
> and i call it often..
>
>
> bill
>
>
> --
> *From:* Callers  on behalf of
> Kalia Kliban via Callers 
> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 9:05 PM
> *To:* callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Callers] Variations of 3-33 by Steve Zakon-Anderson
>
> On 12/16/2016 11:48 AM, Bill Olson via Callers wrote:
> > 3-33-33
> >
> > Steve Zakon (Duple improper)
> > A1 Balance N1, N1 pull by R, N2 pull by L , N3 Balance, box the gnat
> > A2 N3 pull by R, N2 pull by L,  N1 swing
> > B1 Circle L 3/4, Partner Swing
> > B2 Long Lines F, Ladies dosido 1.5
> >
> > I'm aware of a "fix" to 333 where the W DSD 1.5 at the end of B2 was
> > replaced by a W allem L 1.5.. I  think I remember talking to Steve about
> > this and he referred to this as an "approved alternative" HIMSELF..
>
> I've both danced and called this alternate ending, and that allemande L
> is pretty counterintuitive for the women.  It causes some glitches as
> folks fight with their natural instinct to allemande R.  It works, but
> you'll need to be really clear with the dancers that it's the
> non-obvious hand there.
>
> Kalia
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[Callers] Dances without LLFB and Ladies Chain

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi all,

Following on the recent inquiries about favorite dances that [INSERT
CRITERIA HERE], I'll post my request.

I'm finding that when I put programs together, I'll have a string (or at
least several) dances that have a LL F or a Ladies Chain and sometimes
both.

I'd be interested to know your favorite dances (of any experience level)
that use neither of these figures.

Thanks and Happy Holidays to all!

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Re: [Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Looks like Little Green Heron, by Joseph Pimentel.
On Jun 8, 2016 4:40 PM, "Vicki Morrison via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello. I saw a video recently from Raindance with Deb Comly calling.
> Anyone know the name and author of this dance? Thanks!
>
> A1 with current neighbors star L; with former neighbors star R
> A2 with current N b
> B1 men alle L 1.5; P swing
> B2 circle L 1.25 (till the ones are looking down, twos looking up); with P
> zig left past current neighbors, zag right to greet new neighbors
>
> Vicki Morrison
> Tallahassee, FL
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Re: [Callers] 4 person do-si-do?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Hi, Luke,

Great to see you at ValleyCopia and ContraCopia this past weekend. Enjoyed
your sets!  :)

Carol Ormand wrote a dance with a double do-si-do. I'm afraid I can't
remember the name and I don't have my cards handy at the moment. It's in
either Jurassic Redheads or Lizard Research Institute.

I also danced it and remember that it took some time to teach and was
rather technical. By technical, I mean that every time we got to that move
in the dance, I felt like I had to drop out of the flow and pay attention
to the mechanics of the move and to avoiding the other dancers. When it
worked, it was *really* cool. More often than not, however, it was more
like just avoiding the other dancers and getting back to place in time.

Not suggesting that it doesn't or can't work, just that you'll want to
teach it very clearly and make sure it fits into and adds value to the
dance's story line.

Thanks for keeping the creative juices going.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Thanks all for the feedback. I appreciate having this list to kick ideas
> around.
>
> While it would be possible for the do-si-dos to happen in two groups of 2;
> in my opinion that would make this a particularly non-interacting 4x4; as
> the only whole group of 8 interaction at that point is the circle half way;
> and thus not worth getting into 4x4 formation for just that.
>
> As for my comment about the ladies after the chain.
>
> After the give - swing, the lines are:
> w3 m1 w4 m2
> m3 w1 m4 w2
>
> When the women chain to the partner, if they went straight up and down,
> they're ending up back at:
> w1 m1 w2 m2
> m3 w3 m4 w4
> after being courtesy turned through 180 degrees.
>
> Except the next move is happening in the center, so as w2 and w3 are being
> courtesy turned, they'll be facing into the center after maybe 140 degrees
> of rotation; whereas w1 and w4  have to turn about 220 degrees to face into
> center.
>
> As for language, I think I may have muddied the issue; so thank you for
> demonstrating all the ways that my instructions could be interpreted.
> Always a learning experience. A handless star/promenade inside/4 person
> gypsy is not quite what I had in mind, although they're all basically the
> same path on the floor and certainly what I described. I'd envisioned folks
> getting to do-si-do with as little or as much twirling as the wanted; but
> as folks pointed out, the DSD twirl is the opposite direction of the big
> picture rotation.
>
> If I can get dancers to test it, I might describe it as "all four women,
> do-si-do your opposite woman while dodging the other two"
>
> Given that's how I'm thinking of it; the fact that my description involves
> "dodging" might be a sign it's not such a great idea. The promenade inside
> or star options might be more timing resilient; although I like the idea of
> letting folks safely twirl when they want.
>
> I'll keep turning it over in my head, and try to get guinea pigs to dance
> it (there's something that would go viral on youtube...)
>
> Thanks for being a community to talk about dancing with :-)
> Luke
>
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Re: [Callers] Amy dances

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

If an English Country Dance is a possibility, then Colin Hume (
www.colinhume.com) has a wonderful, flowy dance named Amy.
On Sep 9, 2015 9:44 AM, "Amy Wimmer via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Well, this is fun! I've been collecting these, myself. Maybe some day
> there'll be one written for me that I can add to the list.
>
> -Amy Wimmer
>
>
>
> > On Sep 8, 2015, at 10:43 PM, James Saxe via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >
> > Michael Dyck's contra dance index
> >
> > http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/by_title.html
> >
> > lists the following
> >
> > Amy Absconds (Ted Hodapp)
> > Amy Asked for a Gypsy (Charley Harvey)
> > Amy J, My Love (Peter Stix)
> > Amy's Harmonium (Cary Ravitz)
> > Dancing with Amy (Bill Olson)
> > Gypsy for Amy (Linda Leslie)
> >
> > with references to sources, including online sources for most.
> > It also lists various dances written by people named Amy.
> >
> > --Jim
> >
> >> On Sep 8, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi friends,
> >> I'm calling at my home dance this weekend, and my good friend Amy let
> me know it's her birthday.  I want to call some dances with Amy in the
> title to honor her.  Could you please share any Amy titled dances with me?
> Include instructions if you have them, so I don't have to hunt around.
> >> Amy and I thank you,
> >> Andrea N.
> >> Atlanta
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> >>
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Re: [Callers] Giant dance database?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Maia,

If you're not limited to a database project, you might consider a project of a 
more graphical nature. It would useful to have an application that can 
interpret dance instructions and generate a video of the dance. 

There are 1 or 2 very simple ones out there, but graphics are poor and they 
have a limited set of instructions.

Also, is this an assignment or otherwise something you want to do yourself. In 
other words, would you be open to others assisting with this project.

Mark

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Maia McCormick via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm currently in programming school casting about for programming projects, 
> and I had the idea of a giant searchable contradance database, where you can 
> filter by move combination, etc.
> 
> My question: is this something people would be interested in having? Or does 
> it run the risk of infringing on intellectual property, or shortchanging 
> dance writers on book sales, etc.? (Obviously no dances would be included 
> without the author's permission, but it may be that making a huge ton of 
> dances freely available and searchable in one place online would be a death 
> blow to published books of dances, or have some other negative effect I'm not 
> foreseeing right now...)
> 
> Anyway: does anyone have any thoughts on this project?
> 
> Cheers,
> Maia
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