Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Martha Wild via Callers]

I agree with Bill. Calling a neighbor swing only dance first, like Ted 
Sanella’s Holiday Jig, can help train those beginners that are dancing 
together. 

Martha

> On May 15, 2018, at 6:40 AM, billinhi--- via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I agree with John Sweeney, but it all depends.
> For a large group of beginners, rather than spending time
> explaining the advantage of having an experienced partner or trying to split 
> beginners up,
> the simple solution is have a dance where they don't swing together.
> 
> like:
> Easier Than Pie by Billy Boyer
> Essex Reel by Tony Parkes
> First Star by Ted Steele
> Open Rehearsal by Jacob Bloom
> Paul's Fishing Reel by Jim Gregory
> Saturday Night Reel by Herbie Gaudreau
> Sunrise Jig by Shelly Jenkins
> 
> I usually limit it to one dance, but it depends.
> Then there is the 'almost' situation where only the 1s or 2s swing.
> It has the same risk of 'disappointing' the dedicated swingers.
> 
> like:
> Alternating Corners by Jim Kitch
> Boiling Mud by Greg Byrne
> Three's Company by Paul Balliet
> and quite a few others.
> 
> Then there is the case where there is so much going on in the dance, that 
> there just isn't
> anywhere to fit in a partner swing.
> 
> like:
> The Thirty-Fourth of October by Bob Archer
> Divided Star by Don Armstrong
> and other dances already mentioned.
> 
> But I grant you, I can't think of a reason I would call one of these,
> when there are so many other better dances...
> But then there is the argument that as a change of pace,
> with an interesting dance, most people won't really notice.
> But it's got to be a dynamite dance, or after dances with long partner swings.
> 
> As Grocho Marx once quipped,  "...but I take [my cigar] out of my mouth every 
> once in a while."
> 
> Bill
> 
> Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not 
>> include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
>> 
>> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or 
>> why not?
>> 
>> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to 
>> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
>> 
>> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
>> 
>> Rich Sbardella,
>> Stafford, CT
>> 
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[billinhi--- via Callers]

I agree with John Sweeney, but it all depends.
For a large group of beginners, rather than spending time
explaining the advantage of having an experienced partner or trying to 
split beginners up,

the simple solution is have a dance where they don't swing together.

like:
Easier Than Pie by Billy Boyer
Essex Reel by Tony Parkes
First Star by Ted Steele
Open Rehearsal by Jacob Bloom
Paul's Fishing Reel by Jim Gregory
Saturday Night Reel by Herbie Gaudreau
Sunrise Jig by Shelly Jenkins

I usually limit it to one dance, but it depends.
Then there is the 'almost' situation where only the 1s or 2s swing.
It has the same risk of 'disappointing' the dedicated swingers.

like:
Alternating Corners by Jim Kitch
Boiling Mud by Greg Byrne
Three's Company by Paul Balliet
and quite a few others.

Then there is the case where there is so much going on in the dance, 
that there just isn't

anywhere to fit in a partner swing.

like:
The Thirty-Fourth of October by Bob Archer
Divided Star by Don Armstrong
and other dances already mentioned.

But I grant you, I can't think of a reason I would call one of these,
when there are so many other better dances...
But then there is the argument that as a change of pace,
with an interesting dance, most people won't really notice.
But it's got to be a dynamite dance, or after dances with long partner 
swings.


As Grocho Marx once quipped,  "...but I take [my cigar] out of my mouth 
every once in a while."


Bill

Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that 
does not include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.


First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  
Why or why not?


Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as 
to inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?


The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.

Rich Sbardella,
Stafford, CT


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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Martha Wild via Callers]

One dance I do call occasionally is Eric Hoffman’s Last Swing of Summer. I like 
it because there's a couple do-si-do 1 1/2 times with your partner, so I always 
comment to people that as long as they are aware of their neighbors, they have 
16 counts with their partner and they should use the time wisely. Some people 
actually swing their way around the other couple. Some people decide to face as 
in a pousette, some twirl and flourish through the figure, and some just do it 
plain. It’s also easy and good for a less experienced crowd. 
Martha

> On May 13, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not 
> include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
> 
> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or 
> why not?
> 
> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to 
> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
> 
> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
> 
> Rich Sbardella,
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Eric Black via Callers]

The Caller’s Wife by Ted Sannella — a classic no-partner-swing dance, with 
endless speculation connected to the name...

Eric Black
e...@eric-black.com


> On May 13, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not 
> include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
> 
> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or 
> why not?
> 
> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to 
> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
> 
> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
> 
> Rich Sbardella,
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[John Sweeney via Callers]

Hi Rich,

  I call them:

* As the first dance when there are lots of beginners.  Quite often they will 
dance with each other, so doing a dance with only a Neighbour Swing means that 
they get to learn to swing with lots of other people before doing a Partner 
Swing dance together.

 

* When I am working with older groups who don’t enjoy swinging as much as when 
they were younger.

 

* For variety!  I get so bored with half a dance being taken up by N B, Cir 
3/4, P Sw or N B, Men Alle L 1.5, P Sw.  There are lots of other wonderful 
moves to fill your dance with!

 

  Don’t get me wrong, I love to swing, but not everyone wants it 
all the time.

 

  No, I don’t usually tell them in advance.  They probably aren’t 
listening anyway :-)   If that happens to me with a favourite swinging partner 
then we usually agree that that dance didn’t count and we have another one 
together.

 

  I work a lot with older and less experienced dancers who don’t 
need or want to swing in every dance, so none of these have a Partner Swing:

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/CheekboneCity.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/DixieDoo-Dah.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/Duck.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/FindingYourBalance.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/FlutterRing.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/HeyDown.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/TheMadGypsy.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/Pestchye.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/RoguesMarch.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/Rotafl.html

http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/TrainingWheels.html

 

  Some of them are training dances to teach certain moves and are 
aimed at beginners.

 

Happy dancing,  

   John   



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574  

http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive Events & DVDs 
   

http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent   
   

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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Bob Green via Callers]

 Here is a version of an earlier dance that came out of a recent discussion
between Chris Page and I.  It is a no partner swing indecent formation
dance, sans the "Sharks & Jets" of its predecessor, and done as a no
partner swing dance in indecent formation rather than a Becket mixer.

Indecent Exposure by Bob Green  (2018) (duple indecent)
A1 Neighbor balance & swing (16)
A2 Long line forward and back* (8)
  Pass thru and turn alone (8)
B1 Long line forward and back* (8)
  Right and left thru with new neighbor
B2 Hey for 4

* This can also be done as an advance  & retreat with the line moving in
parallel. Wes Side Story is a Becket mixer where you get one swing with
your partner, and you have shadow across from you in the typical spot of a
partner in indecent formation that you never swing. h
ttp://dancevideos.childgrove.org/contra/contra-modern/445-wes-side-story

Bob Green
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On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does
> not include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
>
> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or
> why not?
>
> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to
> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
>
> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
>
> Rich Sbardella,
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Mary Collins via Callers]

Joyce Rossbach and I recently wrote a dance with no partner swing. Mr.
Cranky Pants. Becket
A1- cl 3/4; n swg
A2- star R 1x; ch. Ladies to p
B1- mad robin ladies in; ladies ale. L 1x
B2- cR 1x; ll slice/yearn left to nn

Written in honor of my "morning" cranky son.

Mary



On Sun, May 13, 2018, 3:55 PM Mac Mckeever via Callers <
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> The tease has a partner swing.  If you want the ultimate non- partner
> dance - look at Snake River Reel by Petr LIppincott - it is a very nice
> dance - except you never have any contact with your partner (also a great
> tune with the same name - also from Peter)
>
> Mac McKeever
> St Louis
>
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018, 2:35:20 PM CDT, Rich Sbardella via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>
> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does
> not include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
>
> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or
> why not?
>
> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to
> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
>
> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
>
> Rich Sbardella,
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Joy Greenwolfe via Callers]

The Tease does have a partner swing, but the experience of having a swing being 
apparently taken away (flirt with partner, swing neighbor) has many dancers 
thinking they missed their partner swing! 

As to your question, very rarely. Dancers see the partner swing as a highlight 
of the partnered experience, so a dance has to be pretty special to overcome 
the grumpy feelings that likely ensue. There is one such dance in my box, but 
it’s been so long, I can’t remember what it is. I remember telling them to 
really enjoy their partner interaction, because that was all that they were 
going to get. 

Joy Greenwolfe



> On May 13, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not 
> include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
> 
> First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or 
> why not?
> 
> Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to 
> inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
> 
> The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
> 
> Rich Sbardella,
> Stafford, CT
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Re: [Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Mac Mckeever via Callers]

The tease has a partner swing.  If you want the ultimate non- partner dance - 
look at Snake River Reel by Petr LIppincott - it is a very nice dance - except 
you never have any contact with your partner (also a great tune with the same 
name - also from Peter)

Mac McKeever
St Louis
 

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 I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not 
include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.
First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or why 
not?
Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to 
inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?
The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.
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[Callers] A Dance without Partner Swing

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

I cannot recall dancing a modern contra in the last few years that does not
include a Partner Swing, so I have a few questions.

First, do you call any such modern dances without a partner swing?  Why or
why not?

Second, if you do, do you announce it before the preceding dance so as to
inform those pairs of dancer that love to swing together?

The Tease by Tom Hinds is one such creative dance that begs to be called.

Rich Sbardella,
Stafford, CT
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