Re: [Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[David Harding via Callers]

We danced it at Meet Me In St Louis (can't remember which caller) and I 
enjoyed it, so countthat as an endorsement.


-Dave


On 6/8/2016 4:45 PM, Mark Hillegonds via Callers wrote:


Looks like Little Green Heron, by Joseph Pimentel.

On Jun 8, 2016 4:40 PM, "Vicki Morrison via Callers" 
> wrote:


Hello. I saw a video recently from Raindance with Deb Comly
calling. Anyone know the name and author of this dance? Thanks!

A1 with current neighbors star L; with former neighbors star R
A2 with current N b
B1 men alle L 1.5; P swing
B2 circle L 1.25 (till the ones are looking down, twos looking
up); with P zig left past current neighbors, zag right to greet
new neighbors

Vicki Morrison
Tallahassee, FL

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Re: [Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[Mark Hillegonds via Callers]

Looks like Little Green Heron, by Joseph Pimentel.
On Jun 8, 2016 4:40 PM, "Vicki Morrison via Callers" <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello. I saw a video recently from Raindance with Deb Comly calling.
> Anyone know the name and author of this dance? Thanks!
>
> A1 with current neighbors star L; with former neighbors star R
> A2 with current N b
> B1 men alle L 1.5; P swing
> B2 circle L 1.25 (till the ones are looking down, twos looking up); with P
> zig left past current neighbors, zag right to greet new neighbors
>
> Vicki Morrison
> Tallahassee, FL
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[Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[Vicki Morrison via Callers]

 Hello. I saw a video recently from Raindance with Deb Comly calling. Anyone 
know the name and author of this dance? Thanks!

A1 with current neighbors star L; with former neighbors star R
A2 with current N b men alle L 1.5; P swing 
B2 circle L 1.25 (till the ones are looking down, twos looking up); with P zig 
left past current neighbors, zag right to greet new neighbors

Vicki MorrisonTallahassee, FL

Re: [Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[Woody Lane via Callers]

Hi Ann, 

A Sure Thing by Chris Page (San Diego) 

IMO,  one of the most beautiful B2-A1 transitions ever choreographed. 

Woody 

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From: Ann Fallon via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
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To: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Anyone know this dance?

I learned this dance from George Marshall at the Charlottesville, VA, Fall
Festival, 2014.  Can someone tell me the name of the dance and its author?
Thanks.  

Improper Contra

A1  Half-pousette around Neighbors, women push
Swing Neighbor 

A2  Men allemande L 1 1/2
Meet P and pass R for half a hey

B1  Gypsy and swing P

B2  Women chain
Circle RIGHT into half-pousette 



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[Callers] Anyone know this dance?

[Ann Fallon via Callers]

I learned this dance from George Marshall at the Charlottesville, VA, Fall
Festival, 2014.  Can someone tell me the name of the dance and its author?
Thanks.  

Improper Contra

A1  Half-pousette around Neighbors, women push
Swing Neighbor 

A2  Men allemande L 1 1/2
Meet P and pass R for half a hey

B1  Gypsy and swing P

B2  Women chain
Circle RIGHT into half-pousette 



> 

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Ric Goldman (letsdance)]

Hi Erik,

Thanx for the update.  Looks like what I've been calling is a slightly 
different dance (it may be Seth's variation), but it manages
to get all 4 corners in 32 bars:

Walpole "Condo?"
3 face 3 Sicilian Circle
by Somone TBD -- mostly lifted from Pat Shaw's Walpole Cottage
 
Walpole Dollhouse – Erik Hoffman, Sicilian 3x3, (Ric Goldman variation)
A1   1-4  Lines F+B
5-8  Opposites DSD
A2   1-16Middles dble contra corners (PR ½ , 1st Crnr L 1x, PR ½, 2nd 
Crnr L 1x, )
B1   (continued)
B2   1-4  Circle 6 L ½ way
5-8  Grps of 3 circle (optional basket sw), end facing next 
threesome
Note: middle does a twizzle from last All L w/  4 Crnr into Circle L (although 
some will just end up on the end of the line,
creating a new middle – and that’s ok)

Thanx, Ric Goldman
Palo Alto, CA and Montreal, QC

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> [mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Erik Hoffman
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:40 PM
> To: Caller's discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 
> Corners?
> 
> First of all, I agree with Jim below: be careful of presenting dances
> that are a struggle for a large number on the dance floor.
> 
> Second, as mentioned, in the Pat Shaw dance, Walpole Cottage, dancers do
> visit all four corners, and the music fits that.  In my reduction of
> Walpole Cottage, Walpole Dollhouse, active dancers only visit two
> couples.  It would be possible to modify it so that dancers visit all
> four in the minor set by requesting a 40-bar tune, such as Little Billy
> Wilson (AABCC), or The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel (AABBC, I think), and
> others.  Here's the dance and it's modification:
> 
> Walpole Dollhouse
> 3 face 3 Sicilian Circle
> by Erik Hoffman -- mostly lifted from Pat Shaw's Walpole Cottage
> 
> A1Lines of 3 forward & back (8)
>   End four right hand star (8)
> A2Middle people turn contra corners with two in opposite line
>   End taking the "shortcut" (beeline) home to (original) lines of 3
> B1Circle six half way
>   Lines of 3 forward and back
> B2Threesomes basket swing, end facing original direction
> 
> To modify it to visit all 4 corners, simply add a part (that 40-bar
> tune) and stick the two more corners in the third part:
> 
> A1 Same
> A2 Same
> B1 Next two contra corners
> B2 Circle & F & B
> C1 Basket Swing
> 
> This dance is very forgiving, as it doesn't really matter which corner
> people go to.  And the basket swing at the end is a chance to forgive
> all and start again.
> 
> 
> ~erik hoffman
>  oakland, ca

[snip]

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Erik Hoffman]

First of all, I agree with Jim below: be careful of presenting dances 
that are a struggle for a large number on the dance floor.


Second, as mentioned, in the Pat Shaw dance, Walpole Cottage, dancers do 
visit all four corners, and the music fits that.  In my reduction of 
Walpole Cottage, Walpole Dollhouse, active dancers only visit two 
couples.  It would be possible to modify it so that dancers visit all 
four in the minor set by requesting a 40-bar tune, such as Little Billy 
Wilson (AABCC), or The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel (AABBC, I think), and 
others.  Here's the dance and it's modification:


Walpole Dollhouse
3 face 3 Sicilian Circle
by Erik Hoffman -- mostly lifted from Pat Shaw's Walpole Cottage

A1Lines of 3 forward & back (8)
 End four right hand star (8)
A2Middle people turn contra corners with two in opposite line
 End taking the "shortcut" (beeline) home to (original) lines of 3
B1Circle six half way
 Lines of 3 forward and back
B2Threesomes basket swing, end facing original direction

To modify it to visit all 4 corners, simply add a part (that 40-bar 
tune) and stick the two more corners in the third part:


A1 Same
A2 Same
B1 Next two contra corners
B2 Circle & F & B
C1 Basket Swing

This dance is very forgiving, as it doesn't really matter which corner 
people go to.  And the basket swing at the end is a chance to forgive 
all and start again.



~erik hoffman
oakland, ca


On 5/19/2013 6:19 PM, James Saxe wrote:

Aahz Maruch asked re Ron Buchanan's "Contra Corners Canon"
(or "Country Corners Canon"--I've seen both spellings and
don't know which one Ron prefers):


That sounds awfully similar to the Plus-level square dance call "Teacup
Chain", do you have a reference so I can check?  ...



and Yoyo Zhou replied:

It's probably similar in timing / phase shift but there are some 
differences:


teacup chain has the inactives at the sides (rather than the corners)
teacup chain has the ladies active (rather than the heads)


Also, CCC has pairs of "active" dancers always turning
in the middle in between turning one corner person and
turning the next corner person. In Teacup Chain, the
ladies go into the middle after turning head gents but
they go directly from the side gents to the head gents
without going into the middle first.  So CCC is not just
TC rotated by 45 degrees and with some of the gender
roles changed.

I've seen "Country Corners Canon" work well and give a
dancers a feeling of accomplishment when presented by a
skilled teacher to a suitably skilled and attentive
group of dancers, such as might be found at a workshop
session at a dance camp.  But I strenuously urge against
trying to present a square of this complexity to any group
of dancers until and unless you (the caller) have a proven
track record of calling more moderately challenging
squares to similar groups of dancers with good results.

On page 59 of his book _Give-and-Take_, Larry Jennings
relates an anecdote to which he gives the title "Ambitious
Caller Meets Cocky Dancers."  The dance sequence in the
anecdote is not named, but from the description, I think
it's almost certainly "Country Corners Canon."  (I suggest
that the identity of the caller in the story, if anyone
happens to know it, had best be left unstated.)  The scene
Larry describes is not pretty:

A few people found it exciting and rewarding to figure out
such a difficult figure ...  Others, finding it hopeless
..., just entered into a random walk and appeared to have
a good time.  However, there was an appreciable number who
struggled to understand the figure and, when they could
not, took on an air of resignation, and in fact, many of
them went home.

Unfortunately (in my opinion), when something of this sort
occurs in a community where most of the dances are contras
and where some of the dancers already have negative feelings
about squares, I think many of those dancers are likely to
interpret the incident as further indictment against squares
in general.  On the other hand, if an overly complex contra
(say, one with surprising end effects, unusual out-of-minor
set interactions etc.) fell apart, those same dancers would
think only that that particular dance was too confusing, or
that it was a poor choice for the occasion, or that the
particular caller had taught and called the dance poorly.

--Jim

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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[James Saxe]

Aahz Maruch asked re Ron Buchanan's "Contra Corners Canon"
(or "Country Corners Canon"--I've seen both spellings and
don't know which one Ron prefers):

That sounds awfully similar to the Plus-level square dance call  
"Teacup

Chain", do you have a reference so I can check?  ...



and Yoyo Zhou replied:

It's probably similar in timing / phase shift but there are some  
differences:


teacup chain has the inactives at the sides (rather than the corners)
teacup chain has the ladies active (rather than the heads)


Also, CCC has pairs of "active" dancers always turning
in the middle in between turning one corner person and
turning the next corner person. In Teacup Chain, the
ladies go into the middle after turning head gents but
they go directly from the side gents to the head gents
without going into the middle first.  So CCC is not just
TC rotated by 45 degrees and with some of the gender
roles changed.

I've seen "Country Corners Canon" work well and give a
dancers a feeling of accomplishment when presented by a
skilled teacher to a suitably skilled and attentive
group of dancers, such as might be found at a workshop
session at a dance camp.  But I strenuously urge against
trying to present a square of this complexity to any group
of dancers until and unless you (the caller) have a proven
track record of calling more moderately challenging
squares to similar groups of dancers with good results.

On page 59 of his book _Give-and-Take_, Larry Jennings
relates an anecdote to which he gives the title "Ambitious
Caller Meets Cocky Dancers."  The dance sequence in the
anecdote is not named, but from the description, I think
it's almost certainly "Country Corners Canon."  (I suggest
that the identity of the caller in the story, if anyone
happens to know it, had best be left unstated.)  The scene
Larry describes is not pretty:

A few people found it exciting and rewarding to figure out
such a difficult figure ...  Others, finding it hopeless
..., just entered into a random walk and appeared to have
a good time.  However, there was an appreciable number who
struggled to understand the figure and, when they could
not, took on an air of resignation, and in fact, many of
them went home.

Unfortunately (in my opinion), when something of this sort
occurs in a community where most of the dances are contras
and where some of the dancers already have negative feelings
about squares, I think many of those dancers are likely to
interpret the incident as further indictment against squares
in general.  On the other hand, if an overly complex contra
(say, one with surprising end effects, unusual out-of-minor
set interactions etc.) fell apart, those same dancers would
think only that that particular dance was too confusing, or
that it was a poor choice for the occasion, or that the
particular caller had taught and called the dance poorly.

--Jim

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Yoyo Zhou]

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Sun, May 19, 2013, Yoyo Zhou wrote:
>>
>> There's a Ron Buchanan square, Contra Corners Canon, that has all 4
>> heads visit all 4 sides as their contra corners. I don't remember the
>> details well, but the head ladies are turning each other in the center
>> while the head gents turn their corners and vice versa.
>
> That sounds awfully similar to the Plus-level square dance call "Teacup
> Chain", do you have a reference so I can check?  (If you don't get it
> today, I won't see it for a week ;-)

It's probably similar in timing / phase shift but there are some differences:

teacup chain has the inactives at the sides (rather than the corners)
teacup chain has the ladies active (rather than the heads)

Yoyo Zhou

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, May 19, 2013, Yoyo Zhou wrote:
>
> There's a Ron Buchanan square, Contra Corners Canon, that has all 4
> heads visit all 4 sides as their contra corners. I don't remember the
> details well, but the head ladies are turning each other in the center
> while the head gents turn their corners and vice versa.

That sounds awfully similar to the Plus-level square dance call "Teacup
Chain", do you have a reference so I can check?  (If you don't get it
today, I won't see it for a week ;-)
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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Yoyo Zhou]

There's a Ron Buchanan square, Contra Corners Canon, that has all 4
heads visit all 4 sides as their contra corners. I don't remember the
details well, but the head ladies are turning each other in the center
while the head gents turn their corners and vice versa.

(If anyone has the details, I'd be interested in collecting it!)

Yoyo Zhou

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Colin Hume]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:16:26 -0400, r...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
> Yes, Sags, Bob is asking about dances where each of the actives
> visits all four contra corners.  David Millstone called such a
> dance during the Puttin' on the Dance organizers conference. Alas,
> I don't know the name. It was a 3 facing 3 Sicilian circle
> formation, and it moved quickly.

I bet that was Walpole Cottage, which has already been mentioned.

Colin Hume

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Kalia Kliban]

On 5/19/2013 12:16 PM, r...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

Yes, Sags, Bob is asking about dances where each of the actives visits all four 
contra corners.  David Millstone called such a dance during the Puttin' on the 
Dance organizers conference. Alas, I don't know the name. It was a 3 facing 3 
Sicilian circle formation, and it moved quickly.

Rich


It's certainly not the dance you're thinking of, but Chris Sackett's 
"Pony Express" uses this pattern.  You can find it in his and Brooke 
Friendly's book Impropriety vol 3.  It's a dance for 3 couples in a 
ring, arranged with each person across the set from their partner.


Kalia

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[r...@rochester.rr.com]

Yes, Sags, Bob is asking about dances where each of the actives visits all four 
contra corners.  David Millstone called such a dance during the Puttin' on the 
Dance organizers conference. Alas, I don't know the name. It was a 3 facing 3 
Sicilian circle formation, and it moved quickly. 

Rich

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Subject: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?
Date: Sun, May 19, 2013 3:00 pm


On Sat, May 18, 2013, bob...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he said
> it had been "a thousand years" since he danced a dance that had Contra
> Corners where the actives visited 4 corners. He could not remember the
> name.  I promised him I would ask.

I'm confused, don't the actives visit the four corners in a normal
contra corners?  Or do you mean *each* active visits all four corners?
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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sat, May 18, 2013, bob...@aol.com wrote:
>
>  I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he said
> it had been "a thousand years" since he danced a dance that had Contra
> Corners where the actives visited 4 corners. He could not remember the
> name.  I promised him I would ask.

I'm confused, don't the actives visit the four corners in a normal
contra corners?  Or do you mean *each* active visits all four corners?
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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Hanny Budnick]

And then there are Sackett's Harbor and the 3-facing-3 version of Mason's 
Apron...
Hanny

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[JohnFreem]

This was a very popular dance in Ann Arbor well into the mid 80s. Our 
Morris side used to improvise a bit. A favorite variation was to change 
direction 
at the end.

John B. Freeman, SFTPOCTJ

Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Dorcas Hand]

Thanks to Keith Holmes, we just danced Walpole Cottage last night! Excellent 
fun.
Dorcas Hand
Houston, Texas

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[mailto:callers-boun...@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of Alan Winston
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:27 PM
To: call...@sharedweight.net
Subject: Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 
Corners?

Pat Shaw's three-face-three dance "Walpole Cottage" has a contra-corners with 
all four corners; I think both Erik Hoffman and Seth Tepfer have made simpler 
versions of it.

-- Alan




On 5/18/2013 5:10 PM, bob...@aol.com wrote:
>   I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he 
> said it had been "a thousand years" since he danced a dance that had Contra 
> Corners where the actives visited 4 corners. He could not remember the name.
> I promised him I would ask.
>
>   
>
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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Alan Winston]

Pat Shaw's three-face-three dance "Walpole Cottage" has a contra-corners 
with all four corners; I think both Erik Hoffman and Seth Tepfer have 
made simpler versions of it.


-- Alan




On 5/18/2013 5:10 PM, bob...@aol.com wrote:

  I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he said it had been 
"a thousand years" since
he danced a dance that had Contra Corners where the actives visited 4 corners. 
He could not remember the name.
I promised him I would ask.

  


bob...@aol.com

  


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Re: [Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[Chris Page]

"Box the Compass" by Tony Saletan appears in Zesty Contras.

A nice dance, but a bit unequal. One of these days I want to call "Double
Trouble" by Peter Foster, a more modern take on that idea.


-Chris Page
San Diego


On Saturday, May 18, 2013, wrote:

>
>  I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he said it
> had been "a thousand years" since
> he danced a dance that had Contra Corners where the actives visited 4
> corners. He could not remember the name.
> I promised him I would ask.
>
>
>
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[Callers] Anyone know a dance that has Contra Corners with 4 Corners?

[bobfab]

 I was talking with an older member of our dance community and he said it had 
been "a thousand years" since 
he danced a dance that had Contra Corners where the actives visited 4 corners. 
He could not remember the name.
I promised him I would ask.

 

bob...@aol.com