Re: [Callers] Do you share - or don't you?

2011-12-30 Thread Ron Nelson

When I first started calling square dances, some 50 years ago, I would attend 
other callers' dances to research my own presentation. i would carry a little 
notebook in my pocket to make notes. The point is, once you have presented the 
figure in public, it is no longer within your control. You can only control its 
being reprinted without proper recognition and permission. 
 
Ron Nelson
Chula Vista, CA
 

 

> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:17:20 -0800
> From: greken...@gmail.com
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Do you share - or don't you?
> 
> Hanny wrote:
> 
> > Valid reasons indeed, Colin. But what about dances that are NOT your own
> > and that you call? Does anybody ever announce 'please don't call this dance
> > without speaking to me first' or somesuch?
> >
> 
> I can see why some coriographers may want to insulate a new dance from the
> folk process...for a time. Eventually, however, the folks will get a hold
> of it and you will lose control. I don't know of many dances that are
> being hoarded by callers. It seems like a doomed effort in any case. If
> someone doesn't want their dance called I will remove it from my database
> and allow it to spiral into the oblivion of "protected works" where it
> belongs. The musicians play public domain music and I feel that we should
> call dances that are also available for free use. There are plenty of
> great dances available without restriction and more being written all the
> time. I always give credit to the alleged coriographer on my cards and
> when I pass a dance on. If you want to become immortalized by your work it
> is best not to keep it in a lockbox.
> 
> - Greg
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Re: [Callers] Do you share - or don't you?

2011-12-30 Thread Greg McKenzie
Hanny wrote:

> Valid reasons indeed, Colin. But what about dances that are NOT your own
> and that you call? Does anybody ever announce 'please don't call this dance
> without speaking to me first' or somesuch?
>

I can see why some coriographers may want to insulate a new dance from the
folk process...for a time.  Eventually, however, the folks will get a hold
of it and you will lose control.  I don't know of many dances that are
being hoarded by callers.  It seems like a doomed effort in any case.  If
someone doesn't want their dance called I will remove it from my database
and allow it to spiral into the oblivion of "protected works" where it
belongs.  The musicians play public domain music and I feel that we should
call dances that are also available for free use.  There are plenty of
great dances available without restriction and more being written all the
time.  I always give credit to the alleged coriographer on my cards and
when I pass a dance on.  If you want to become immortalized by your work it
is best not to keep it in a lockbox.

- Greg


Re: [Callers] Do you share - or don't you?

2011-12-29 Thread Hanny Budnick
Valid reasons indeed, Colin. But what about dances that are NOT your own and 
that you call? Does anybody ever announce 'please don't call this dance without 
speaking to me first' or somesuch?

Hanny



Re: [Callers] Do you share - or don't you?

2011-12-29 Thread Colin Hume

On 29/12/2011 19:40, Hanny Budnick wrote:

Once a dance has been presented on a public dance floor, do you elect
NOT to share? And what might be your reasons?


The dance might not be in its final version.

The composer might want to keep hold of his own dance and only call it 
himself (for a while or forever).


It might be in a book the composer wanted to sell.

Colin Hume

E-mail: co...@colinhume.com  Website:  http://www.colinhume.com


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[Callers] Do you share - or don't you?

2011-12-29 Thread Hanny Budnick

I wrote two emails to the person who definitely knew a dance (the caller)
asking the relevant questions about author, correct name and choreography. When 
no answer came, I turned to this list, successfully.
Now I wonder about folks' attitude about sharing the materials they carry in 
their collection, and about which they are being asked. Once a dance has been 
presented on a public dance floor, do you elect NOT to share? And what might be 
your reasons?

Hanny