Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016, Robert Golder via Callers wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Harold E. Watson via Callers 
>  wrote:
>>
>> I like the word "eddy". It rolls off the tongue easy, defines a
>> circular movement, and has a sharp consonant sound. I haven't been
>> able to think of a down side, yet.
>
> Pity the poor guy named Eddy, new to contra dancing, struggling down
> there on the dance floor.

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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Robert Golder via Callers]

Pity the poor guy named Eddy, new to contra dancing, struggling down there on 
the dance floor.

On Jan 29, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Harold E. Watson via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I like the word “eddy”. It rolls off the tongue easy, defines a circular 
> movement, and has a sharp consonant sound. I haven’t been able to think of a 
> down side, yet.
>  
> Harold
>  
> From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of 
> Martha Wild via Callers
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: callers list <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> Cc: Martha Barnette <mar...@waywordradio.org>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] another new word idea
>  
> Well, I have changed my opinion. 
>  
> I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With Words 
> about the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed light on the 
> origins of the words and the ethical use of language it would be them.
>  
> They said that the origin is NOT the Welsh, but is indeed the same word used 
> for the Romani people. And they also felt that it was a highly negative word 
> and that we should try to find an alternative name for the move within our 
> community. I think that the discussion will be on the next show - so if you 
> are interested, tune in to Away With Words to hear their take on the subject.
>  
> I”d prefer a word that has a similar quality - a soft sound - and a similar 
> two syllable nature to it. That’s why gyre is a little bit problematic for 
> me, on top of whether to make it a hard or soft “g". Tipsy? Mimsy (going 
> along with they Jabberwocky theme)? Gimbal or gambol isn’t bad but isn’t very 
> soft sounding. But it would be good if we didn’t have 20 different terms in 
> different groups so that dancers going from one place to another would be OK 
> when medleys were called. I can’t say I like many of the suggestions yet.
>  
>  
> Martha
>  
> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>  
> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"
> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of 
> all the synonyms being conjured ?
>  
> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:54 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
> like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".
>  
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Harold E. Watson via Callers]

I like the word “eddy”. It rolls off the tongue easy, defines a circular 
movement, and has a sharp consonant sound. I haven’t been able to think of a 
down side, yet.

Harold

From: Callers [mailto:callers-boun...@lists.sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of 
Martha Wild via Callers
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:24 PM
To: callers list <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Cc: Martha Barnette <mar...@waywordradio.org>
Subject: Re: [Callers] another new word idea

Well, I have changed my opinion.

I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With Words about 
the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed light on the origins 
of the words and the ethical use of language it would be them.

They said that the origin is NOT the Welsh, but is indeed the same word used 
for the Romani people. And they also felt that it was a highly negative word 
and that we should try to find an alternative name for the move within our 
community. I think that the discussion will be on the next show - so if you are 
interested, tune in to Away With Words to hear their take on the subject.

I”d prefer a word that has a similar quality - a soft sound - and a similar two 
syllable nature to it. That’s why gyre is a little bit problematic for me, on 
top of whether to make it a hard or soft “g". Tipsy? Mimsy (going along with 
they Jabberwocky theme)? Gimbal or gambol isn’t bad but isn’t very soft 
sounding. But it would be good if we didn’t have 20 different terms in 
different groups so that dancers going from one place to another would be OK 
when medleys were called. I can’t say I like many of the suggestions yet.


Martha

On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:

Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"
If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of all 
the synonyms being conjured ?

Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:54 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:


I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".


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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Laur via Callers]

I actually memorized that long long ago and when in an indecisive space I often 
spout it!
Laurie ~ When I dance, I cannot judge, I cannot hate, I cannot separate myself 
from life. I can only be joyful and whole, that is why I dance. ~Hans Bos~ ~ 

On Monday, January 25, 2016 4:55 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
 wrote:
 
 

 You all are tickling me every which way today!  Mome raths and slithy toves, 
raths and toves.  :D which is which?Andrea

Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
On Jan 25, 2016, at 12:49 PM, David Chandler  wrote:


Jabberwocky, as in:’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves  Did gyre and gimble 
in the wabe
I'm not sure dancers will appreciate being called "slithy toves," though we 
have been looking for new terms to use to describe dancers in different 
positions. Perhaps the other position could be "mome raths" as in:All mimsy 
were the borogoves,  And the mome raths outgrabe.
Raths and toves?
David
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
 wrote:

I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical origin. 
:-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
Andrea

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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[James Saxe via Callers]

I tried typing each of the following into the Google search box:

 "frontier twirl" square dance

 "frontier whirl" square dance

The "whirl" version got more hits, but the "twirl" version also
got enough to show that it's more than just one person's
idiosyncratic variant.

Bonus history tidbit:  In Ed Gilmore's dance "The California
Whirl", as published in the May 1951 _Sets in Order_ magazine
and on page _Sets In Order_'s _5 Years of Square Dancing_
compilation (a/k/a _Five Years of Sets In Order_), the term
"California Whirl" is used to mean what would now be called
a "Left Star Thru".  That is, it's done by dancers who are
facing each other, rather than by those who are side-by-side,
with gent using left hand and lady using right hand.  On the
other hand (as it were), when Ed describes the "Inside Arch
Outside Under" routine in his 1949 callers course syllabus

 http://squaredancehistory.org/items/show/581

he uses "California Whirl" just as we now use "California
Twirl'.  The terminology just wasn't as precicodified in
those ®®days as it is in MWSD today.

--Jim

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Erik,
> I have heard Frontier Whirl as a California Twirl, but never Frontier Twirl?  
> Are you sure?  (Maybe I am mistaken.)
> Rich Sbardella
> Stafford, CT
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers 
>  wrote:
> What Michael Fuerst said at a readable size (It's still coming through to me 
> in some microscopic font):
> 
> > Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California
> > Twirl"
> > If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them
> > of all the synonyms being conjured ?
> 
> Aha! A whole new topic. Well, actually old. Larry Edelman, one of my favorite 
> dance callers, and someone I feel lucky to have spent time with, and from 
> whom I have learned so much, use to complain about "California Twirl." I 
> don't recall his reasons, but he always called it a "Frontier Twirl," which I 
> think he got from old square dance books. 
> 
> I've been using "right shoulder turn," and "left shoulder turn," and 
> mentioning that there's been a discussion on the use of the word Gypsy. Then 
> again, somewhere around sixty percent of the time I tend to call a "right 
> hand turn," instead of "allemande right," as it's more descriptive. 
> 
> This, in some ways, gives another reason for using different words: the use 
> of descriptive calls. Thus abandoning a non-descriptive call for one that is 
> more readily interpreted by all dancers has other benefits than just 
> abandoning a word that some--or all--find pejorative .
> 
> ~erik hoffman
> oakland, ca
> 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
>> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"
>> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of 
>> all the synonyms being conjured ?
>>  
>> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>> 
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Erik Hoffman via Callers]

Hi Rich and All,

My memory of "Frontier Twirl" is pretty strong. But then again, it's the 
80s I'm talking about...


~erik

On 1/27/2016 1:20 PM, Rich Sbardella wrote:

Erik,
I have heard Frontier Whirl as a California Twirl, but never Frontier 
Twirl?  Are you sure?  (Maybe I am mistaken.)

Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers 
> wrote:


What Michael Fuerst said at a readable size (It's still coming
through to me in some microscopic font):

> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say
"California
> Twirl"

Aha! A whole new topic. Well, actually old. Larry Edelman, one of
my favorite dance callers, and someone I feel lucky to have spent
time with, and from whom I have learned so much, use to complain
about "California Twirl." I don't recall his reasons, but he
always called it a "Frontier Twirl," which I think he got from old
square dance books.

~erik hoffman
oakland, ca

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Jim McKinney via Callers]

I’ve been experimenting with “walk around your partner/neighbor face to face” 
without any complaints or adverse effects.
Jim

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Mac Mckeever via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
> If I recall - square dances use the term 'dance around' to achieve the same 
> thing
> 
> 'dance around your partner', etc.
> 
> Mac McKeever
> 
> 
> 
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Aahz Maruch via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
> To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] another new word idea
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, jwcontrahands4 via Callers wrote:
> > 
> > I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease
> > about". I like the feel of it. An alternative would be "walkabout".
> 
> Walkabout would be a poor substitute:
> 
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-07/lets-go-walkabout-changes-name-a-cultural-appropriation-claims/7071662
>  
> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-07/lets-go-walkabout-changes-name-a-cultural-appropriation-claims/7071662>
> 
> I suggest that anyone thinking of a substitute term do at least a quick
> search for " appropriation" (which is what I did to find the above
> link) and " slur".
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

Erik,
I have heard Frontier Whirl as a California Twirl, but never Frontier
Twirl?  Are you sure?  (Maybe I am mistaken.)
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Erik Hoffman via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> What Michael Fuerst said at a readable size (It's still coming through to
> me in some microscopic font):
>
> > Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California
> > Twirl"
> > If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them
> > of all the synonyms being conjured ?
>
> Aha! A whole new topic. Well, actually old. Larry Edelman, one of my
> favorite dance callers, and someone I feel lucky to have spent time with,
> and from whom I have learned so much, use to complain about "California
> Twirl." I don't recall his reasons, but he always called it a "Frontier
> Twirl," which I think he got from old square dance books.
>
> I've been using "right shoulder turn," and "left shoulder turn," and
> mentioning that there's been a discussion on the use of the word Gypsy.
> Then again, somewhere around sixty percent of the time I tend to call a
> "right hand turn," instead of "allemande right," as it's more descriptive.
>
> This, in some ways, gives another reason for using different words: the
> use of descriptive calls. Thus abandoning a non-descriptive call for one
> that is more readily interpreted by all dancers has other benefits than
> just abandoning a word that some--or all--find pejorative .
>
> ~erik hoffman
> oakland, ca
>
>
> On 1/27/2016 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
>
> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California
> Twirl"
> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of
> all the synonyms being conjured ?
>
> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Bree Kalb via Callers]

I've been undecided, and stayed out of this discussion. But this helps me make a decision. I have a lot of respect for Martha and Grant (and am addicted to their podcast), so I'm going to experiment with using a different term.I suspect the folk process will sort this out over time and that the most respected callers (e.g. those who are sought after for dance weeks and weekends) will probably influence what the rest of us do.Bree Kalb-Original Message-
From: Martha Wild via Callers <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
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To: callers list <callers@lists.sharedweight.net>
Cc: Martha Barnette <mar...@waywordradio.org>
Subject: Re: [Callers] another new word idea

Well, I have changed my opinion. I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With Words about the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed light on the origins of the words and the ethical use of language it would be them.They said that the origin is NOT the Welsh, but is indeed the same word used for the Romani people. And they also felt that it was a highly negative word and that we should try to find an alternative name for the move within our community. I think that the discussion will be on the next show - so if you are interested, tune in to Away With Words to hear their take on the subject.I”d prefer a word that has a similar quality - a soft sound - and a similar two syllable nature to it. That’s why gyre is a little bit problematic for me, on top of whether to make it a hard or soft “g". Tipsy? Mimsy (going along with they Jabberwocky theme)? Gimbal or gambol isn’t bad but isn’t very soft sounding. But it would be good if we didn’t have 20 different terms in different groups so that dancers going from one place to another would be OK when medleys were called. I can’t say I like many of the suggestions yet.Martha

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Robert Golder via Callers]

FWIW, "gyre" is pronounced \ˈjī(-ə)r\

Think about pronunciation of words like "gyroscope" and "gyrate," and you'll 
have it.


On Jan 27, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Martha Wild via Callers 
 wrote:

> Well, I have changed my opinion. 
> 
> I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With Words 
> about the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed light on the 
> origins of the words and the ethical use of language it would be them.
> 
> They said that the origin is NOT the Welsh, but is indeed the same word used 
> for the Romani people. And they also felt that it was a highly negative word 
> and that we should try to find an alternative name for the move within our 
> community. I think that the discussion will be on the next show - so if you 
> are interested, tune in to Away With Words to hear their take on the subject.
> 
> I”d prefer a word that has a similar quality - a soft sound - and a similar 
> two syllable nature to it. That’s why gyre is a little bit problematic for 
> me, on top of whether to make it a hard or soft “g". Tipsy? Mimsy (going 
> along with they Jabberwocky theme)? Gimbal or gambol isn’t bad but isn’t very 
> soft sounding. But it would be good if we didn’t have 20 different terms in 
> different groups so that dancers going from one place to another would be OK 
> when medleys were called. I can’t say I like many of the suggestions yet.
> 
> 
> Martha
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"
>> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of 
>> all the synonyms being conjured ?
>>  
>> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:54 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
>> like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".
>> 
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, Martha Wild via Callers wrote:
>
> I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With
> Words about the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed
> light on the origins of the words and the ethical use of language it
> would be them.

For people searching: it's actually "A Way With Words"

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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Martha Wild via Callers]

Well, I have changed my opinion. 

I decided to talk to Martha Barnette and Grant Barrett at Away With Words about 
the g-word controversy, figuring that if anyone could shed light on the origins 
of the words and the ethical use of language it would be them.

They said that the origin is NOT the Welsh, but is indeed the same word used 
for the Romani people. And they also felt that it was a highly negative word 
and that we should try to find an alternative name for the move within our 
community. I think that the discussion will be on the next show - so if you are 
interested, tune in to Away With Words to hear their take on the subject.

I”d prefer a word that has a similar quality - a soft sound - and a similar two 
syllable nature to it. That’s why gyre is a little bit problematic for me, on 
top of whether to make it a hard or soft “g". Tipsy? Mimsy (going along with 
they Jabberwocky theme)? Gimbal or gambol isn’t bad but isn’t very soft 
sounding. But it would be good if we didn’t have 20 different terms in 
different groups so that dancers going from one place to another would be OK 
when medleys were called. I can’t say I like many of the suggestions yet.


Martha

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"
> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of 
> all the synonyms being conjured ?
>  
> Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:54 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
> like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".
> 
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Erik Hoffman via Callers]

What Michael Fuerst said at a readable size (It's still coming through 
to me in some microscopic font):


> Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California
> Twirl"
> If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them
> of all the synonyms being conjured ?

Aha! A whole new topic. Well, actually old. Larry Edelman, one of my 
favorite dance callers, and someone I feel lucky to have spent time 
with, and from whom I have learned so much, use to complain about 
"California Twirl." I don't recall his reasons, but he always called it 
a "Frontier Twirl," which I think he got from old square dance books.


I've been using "right shoulder turn," and "left shoulder turn," and 
mentioning that there's been a discussion on the use of the word Gypsy. 
Then again, somewhere around sixty percent of the time I tend to call a 
"right hand turn," instead of "allemande right," as it's more descriptive.


This, in some ways, gives another reason for using different words: the 
use of descriptive calls. Thus abandoning a non-descriptive call for one 
that is more readily interpreted by all dancers has other benefits than 
just abandoning a word that some--or all--find pejorative .


~erik hoffman
oakland, ca


On 1/27/2016 7:03 AM, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote:
Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California 
Twirl"
If you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise 
them of all the synonyms being conjured ?

Michael Fuerst  802 N Broadway  Urbana IL 61801  217 239 5844

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016, jwcontrahands4 via Callers wrote:
> 
> I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease
> about". I like the feel of it. An alternative would be "walkabout".

Walkabout would be a poor substitute:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-07/lets-go-walkabout-changes-name-a-cultural-appropriation-claims/7071662

I suggest that anyone thinking of a substitute term do at least a quick
search for " appropriation" (which is what I did to find the above
link) and " slur".
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Michael Fuerst via Callers]

Are you also contemplating  to abandon the awkward to say "California Twirl"If 
you use your gypsy alternative for new dancers, will you advise them of all the 
synonyms being conjured ? Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 
61801  217 239 5844 

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:54 AM, jwcontrahands4 via Callers 
 wrote:
 

 
I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[jwcontrahands4 via Callers]

I think that, if I decide to abandon gypsy, I will go with "ease about".  I 
like the feel of it.  An alternative would be "walkabout".

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Martha Wild via Callers 
<callers@lists.sharedweight.net> Date:01/26/2016  10:17 PM  
(GMT-06:00) To: Jonathan Sivier <jsiv...@illinois.edu> 
Cc: call...@sharedweight.net Subject: Re: [Callers] 
another new word idea 
How about “mimsy” then - kind of like Jets and Rubies, it has a similar 
feel to the word it replaces.
Martha

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> 
>   That's what made me think of it.  In some earlier message someone mentioned 
> "Gyre" (probably a diminutive of gyrate) as a possibility. That led me to
> 
> "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
> Did gyre and gimble in the wabe"
> 
>  "Gimble" may, or may not, be a real word spelled that way, but Gimbal is and 
> seemed like it might have potential.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2016 2:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton wrote:
>> I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical 
>> origin. :-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
>> Andrea
>> 
>> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
>>> <callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I've been thinking about this as well.  I'd like to propose "Gimbal" as a 
>>> substitute for gypsy.  You could even spell it "Gymbal" if you liked.  ;-)  
>>> This also has the same number of syllables and starts with the same letter 
>>> as a bonus.  A gimbal is a pivoted support that allows the rotation of an 
>>> object about a single axis, so it also makes some sense with respect to the 
>>> movement being named.  It is sometimes used as a verb, as in the movement 
>>> of rocket motors used for guidance, as well as being a noun.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> -
>>> Jonathan Sivier
>>> Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
>>> jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
>>> Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
>>> -
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>>> A: It depends on what dance you call!
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Martha Wild via Callers]

How about “mimsy” then - kind of like Jets and Rubies, it has a similar feel to 
the word it replaces.
Martha

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
>   That's what made me think of it.  In some earlier message someone mentioned 
> "Gyre" (probably a diminutive of gyrate) as a possibility. That led me to
> 
> "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
> Did gyre and gimble in the wabe"
> 
>  "Gimble" may, or may not, be a real word spelled that way, but Gimbal is and 
> seemed like it might have potential.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2016 2:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton wrote:
>> I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical 
>> origin. :-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
>> Andrea
>> 
>> Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I've been thinking about this as well.  I'd like to propose "Gimbal" as a 
>>> substitute for gypsy.  You could even spell it "Gymbal" if you liked.  ;-)  
>>> This also has the same number of syllables and starts with the same letter 
>>> as a bonus.  A gimbal is a pivoted support that allows the rotation of an 
>>> object about a single axis, so it also makes some sense with respect to the 
>>> movement being named.  It is sometimes used as a verb, as in the movement 
>>> of rocket motors used for guidance, as well as being a noun.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> -
>>> Jonathan Sivier
>>> Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
>>> jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
>>> Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
>>> -
>>> Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
>>> A: It depends on what dance you call!
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Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Paul Wilde via Callers]

We've tried gyre and gimble a few times at a small local dance series.  The
few who responded were positive.  It has a certain je ne ces't quas (even
if we misrepresent the technical meaning of gimble :-)

Paul

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Jonathan Sivier via Callers]

   That's what made me think of it.  In some earlier message someone 
mentioned "Gyre" (probably a diminutive of gyrate) as a possibility. 
That led me to


"Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe"

  "Gimble" may, or may not, be a real word spelled that way, but Gimbal 
is and seemed like it might have potential.


Jonathan


On 1/25/2016 2:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton wrote:

I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical origin. 
:-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
Andrea

Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask


On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
 wrote:

   I've been thinking about this as well.  I'd like to propose "Gimbal" as a substitute 
for gypsy.  You could even spell it "Gymbal" if you liked.  ;-)  This also has the same 
number of syllables and starts with the same letter as a bonus.  A gimbal is a pivoted support that 
allows the rotation of an object about a single axis, so it also makes some sense with respect to 
the movement being named.  It is sometimes used as a verb, as in the movement of rocket motors used 
for guidance, as well as being a noun.

Jonathan
-
Jonathan Sivier
Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
-
Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
A: It depends on what dance you call!

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

You all are tickling me every which way today!  Mome raths and slithy toves, 
raths and toves.  :D which is which?
Andrea

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> On Jan 25, 2016, at 12:49 PM, David Chandler  wrote:
> 
> Jabberwocky, as in:
> ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
>   Did gyre and gimble in the wabe
> 
> I'm not sure dancers will appreciate being called "slithy toves," though we 
> have been looking for new terms to use to describe dancers in different 
> positions. Perhaps the other position could be "mome raths" as in:
> All mimsy were the borogoves,
>   And the mome raths outgrabe.
> 
> Raths and toves?
> 
> David
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical 
>> origin. :-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
>> Andrea
>> 
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> 

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[David Chandler via Callers]

Jabberwocky, as in:
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
  Did gyre and gimble in the wabe

I'm not sure dancers will appreciate being called "slithy toves," though we
have been looking for new terms to use to describe dancers in different
positions. Perhaps the other position could be "mome raths" as in:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
  And the mome raths outgrabe.

Raths and toves?

David

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical
> origin. :-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
> Andrea
>
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>

Re: [Callers] another new word idea

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

I love this!  And it has a playful kind of sound, despite its technical origin. 
:-) reminds me of jabberwocky somehow...
Andrea

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> On Jan 25, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Sivier via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
>   I've been thinking about this as well.  I'd like to propose "Gimbal" as a 
> substitute for gypsy.  You could even spell it "Gymbal" if you liked.  ;-)  
> This also has the same number of syllables and starts with the same letter as 
> a bonus.  A gimbal is a pivoted support that allows the rotation of an object 
> about a single axis, so it also makes some sense with respect to the movement 
> being named.  It is sometimes used as a verb, as in the movement of rocket 
> motors used for guidance, as well as being a noun.
> 
> Jonathan
> -
> Jonathan Sivier
> Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
> jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
> Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
> -
> Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
> A: It depends on what dance you call!
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[Callers] another new word idea

[Jonathan Sivier via Callers]

   I've been thinking about this as well.  I'd like to propose "Gimbal" 
as a substitute for gypsy.  You could even spell it "Gymbal" if you 
liked.  ;-)  This also has the same number of syllables and starts with 
the same letter as a bonus.  A gimbal is a pivoted support that allows 
the rotation of an object about a single axis, so it also makes some 
sense with respect to the movement being named.  It is sometimes used as 
a verb, as in the movement of rocket motors used for guidance, as well 
as being a noun.


Jonathan
-
Jonathan Sivier
Caller of Contra, Square, English and Early American Dances
jsivier AT illinois DOT edu
Dance Page: http://www.sivier.me/dance_leader.html
-
Q: How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
A: It depends on what dance you call!