Re: [Callers] medley

[Jim Thaxter via Callers]

Not sure I understand the question. Are you asking if you should call each 
dance in the medley 6 or 8 times (if so, how many dances do you include in the 
medley?)? Or if you should have 6 or 8 dances for a medley? Or perhaps an 
entirely different question? Maybe you're asking about doing 8 dances in a 
medley and calling each dance 8 times through, for like, 32 straight minutes of 
dancing?

> On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Laur via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm debating if 6 or 8 times thru the dances during a medley make more sense. 
> I've gone back and forth on this for years.  Thoughts? 
> 
> If it matters this time I have 8 dances, in the past it's been 5. So either 
> way it's still the same question.
> 
> Laurie 
> West Mi
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Re: [Callers] medley

[Jerome Grisanti via Callers]

As Aahz points out, contra medleys are highly dependent upon enunciation
and the sound system. They are also highly dependent upon the crowd's
expectations and experience.

I recently called for a group that included a high percentage of
"experienced" dancers whose approach seemed to be, "every time I interact
with an opposite-sex person, it's a swing, despite what the caller has
taught."

I was not calling a medley, just a relatively staightforward contra that
was memorable enough for most of the dancers. I have to assume their
version of a "dance trance" was a bit different than mine.

I also assume that a medley in that atmosphere would have been a complete
train wreck.

--Jerome

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On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> [the message I'm responding to was sent privately, I got permission to
> respond publicly]
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, Rod and Chris Krehbiel wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 17, 2016 10:12 AM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>  On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, Laur via Callers wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm debating if 6 or 8 times thru the dances during a medley make more
> >>> sense. I've gone back and forth on this for years. Thoughts?
> >>
> >> That depends on your goal.  I'm hearing-impaired, I dislike medleys in
> >> the first place, they combine the worst of contra and square dancing.
> >> For me, more times through is better, gives me more chance to dance
> >> trance.
> >
> > Since I have a goal of combining the BEST of contra and square dance,
> > I'm intrigued by your comment that medleys combine the worst of contra
> > and square dance. Could you expand and explain?
>
> The short version is that contra dance callers on average enunciate less
> clearly than square dance callers, contra calling in general assumes that
> they're calling under the music rather than over the music the way square
> dance callers do (or calling when no music is playing -- the
> walkthrough), sound engineering in contra halls emphasizes the music,
> contra dancers have much less training in responding to live calling, and
> contra vocabulary/grammar has less structure than square dance.
>
> Therefore -- and particularly for hearing-impaired people -- contra
> medleys represent a challenge that almost always combines the worst of
> square dance (live calling) with the worst of contra (poor ability to
> hear the calling).
>
> Obviously, it would be possible to combine the best of contra and square
> dance, but WRT hearing impairments, it would pretty much need to be
> approached from the square dance side (i.e. focusing on the voice and
> then working to get the dancers to follow the musical phrasing the way
> contra dancers do).
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Re: [Callers] medley

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

[the message I'm responding to was sent privately, I got permission to
respond publicly]

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, Rod and Chris Krehbiel wrote:
> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 10:12 AM, Aahz Maruch via Callers 
>  wrote:
>>  On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, Laur via Callers wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm debating if 6 or 8 times thru the dances during a medley make more
>>> sense. I've gone back and forth on this for years. Thoughts?
>> 
>> That depends on your goal.  I'm hearing-impaired, I dislike medleys in
>> the first place, they combine the worst of contra and square dancing.
>> For me, more times through is better, gives me more chance to dance
>> trance.
>
> Since I have a goal of combining the BEST of contra and square dance,
> I'm intrigued by your comment that medleys combine the worst of contra
> and square dance. Could you expand and explain?

The short version is that contra dance callers on average enunciate less
clearly than square dance callers, contra calling in general assumes that
they're calling under the music rather than over the music the way square
dance callers do (or calling when no music is playing -- the
walkthrough), sound engineering in contra halls emphasizes the music,
contra dancers have much less training in responding to live calling, and
contra vocabulary/grammar has less structure than square dance.

Therefore -- and particularly for hearing-impaired people -- contra
medleys represent a challenge that almost always combines the worst of
square dance (live calling) with the worst of contra (poor ability to
hear the calling).

Obviously, it would be possible to combine the best of contra and square
dance, but WRT hearing impairments, it would pretty much need to be
approached from the square dance side (i.e. focusing on the voice and
then working to get the dancers to follow the musical phrasing the way
contra dancers do).
-- 
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Re: [Callers] medley

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, Laur via Callers wrote:
>
> I'm debating if 6 or 8 times thru the dances during a medley make more
> sense. I've gone back and forth on this for years. Thoughts?

That depends on your goal.  I'm hearing-impaired, I dislike medleys in
the first place, they combine the worst of contra and square dancing.
For me, more times through is better, gives me more chance to dance
trance.
-- 
Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/
  <*>   <*>   <*>
Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html

[Callers] medley

[Laur via Callers]

I'm debating if 6 or 8 times thru the dances during a medley make more sense. 
I've gone back and forth on this for years.  Thoughts? 
If it matters this time I have 8 dances, in the past it's been 5. So either way 
it's still the same question.
Laurie West Mi ~ When I dance, I cannot judge, I cannot hate, I cannot separate 
myself from life. I can only be joyful and whole, that is why I dance. ~Hans 
Bos~ ~