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I think there are vn cronies who hacked my account. I recieved nothing from camdics and republicofcambodia since a week or so, unless there no more people post on these two forums. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Average Intelligence
@a do pkv kanpouch smart ass, it is not matter who do that but it is matter who created and controlled that human butcher enterprise and killing machines for the glory of yuon race as these numerous documents (http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1sihanoukyuoncrime.htm) testified no matter these genociders always try to clean themselves from the endless genocide committed against Khmer people and other people in the region including Champ people, Laos people, Khmer krom people and Khmer people. It's so PATHETIC that each time people stand these vn genociders face their responsibility and atrocity committed against other, these criminals and allies had nothing better to do than crying victims of racism and hated while these criminals committed endless atrocious gratuitous genocide over centuries against millions innocent people who the yuons considered as inferior to yuon race or sometime yuons qualified as dark skin, ugly,dumb, stupid, barbaric ect. The only RACIST and HATRED people I see here is those vn genociders who had committed too much atrocity and crime against innocent people different from yuons for the glory of yuon race and continue endlessly to vomit their venin and hatred against those people as it is clearly demonstrated in the message of this racist hateful lowest scum below as the rest of this specimen. It needs intelligence to built and invent a better world, a world of value and respect as Khmer people always proved over centuries before Cambodia is sacked, butchered and destroyed by yuons and/or through yuon domination and influence. But it doesn't need intelligence to kill. All need for the murderers/genociders is evilness, a cruel heart that human conscience or feeling is inaccessible to. How people can tolerate this kind of racist attitude and smears as it is continually flow in this forum over years against Khmer people or other people. If you are capable to tolerate this kind of hatful racial swears, you are capable the worse. Negation of yuon genocide against Khmer and other people is a CRIME. It's in the nature of average murderers or psychopath to deny their crime or atrocity but it's the duty of responsible people who adhered to universal values such as democracy, human rights ect to stand these ever genociders face their responsibility and crime. P/S this is my message for these low scum genociders to begin the new year - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:55 PM Subject: Average Intelligence Re: http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/dea3ff990d1a2a78# Your racial hatred blinds you from having an average intellignece. How did the Vietnamese spy agents carry out the mass murder?? Did your comrades the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge leaders obey the order of the Vietnamese spy agents and implement it so enthusiatically?? If so, what does that tell about the intelligence of your Khmer race?? The truth is told by the victims of the genocide themselves, including Vann Nath in the story. The whole world knows about the unspeakable barbarism the unspeakable atrocity the unspeakable mass-murder of the Khmer Rouge against the Cambodian people. Presently York University, in Toronto, Canada, is exhibiting in its main campus the atrocity of the Khmer Rouge against the Cambodian people in photos, including letters written in Khmer written by some Khmer Rouge members and sent to other Khmer Rouge members during their reign of terror and death. The fact that you're a converted Christian proves that you're illogical and irrational. Or perhaps you were an unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge. If so, were you the one who cut off Sinn Si Samouth's tongue and let him die a slow and un- imaginably painful death?? You'd better watch out. Today there are millions of Samouth's fans, young and old, spreading out all over the world. There's a very good chance that you'll run into one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in
Re: painting for your life
@a do pkv kanpouch smart ass, it is not matter who do that but it is matter who created and controlled that human butcher enterprise and killing machines for the glory of yuon race as these numerous documents (http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1sihanoukyuoncrime.htm) testified no matter these genociders always try to clean themselves from the endless genocide committed against Khmer people and other people in the region including Champ people, Laos people, Khmer krom people and Khmer people. It's so PATHETIC that each time people stand these vn genociders face their responsibility and atrocity committed against other, these criminals and allies had nothing better to do than crying victims of racism and hated while these criminals committed endless atrocious gratuitous genocide over centuries against millions innocent people who the yuons considered as inferior to yuon race or sometime yuons qualified as dark skin, ugly,dumb, stupid, barbaric ect. The only RACIST and HATRED people I see here is those vn genociders who had committed too much atrocity and crime against innocent people different from yuons for the glory of yuon race and continue endlessly to vomit their venin and hatred against those people as it is clearly demonstrated in the message of this racist hateful lowest scum below as the rest of this specimen. It needs intelligence to built and invent a better world, a world of value and respect as Khmer people always proved over centuries before Cambodia is sacked, butchered and destroyed by yuons and/or through yuon domination and influence. But it doesn't need intelligence to kill. All need for the murderers/genociders is evilness, a cruel heart that human conscience or feeling is inaccessible to. How people can tolerate this kind of racist attitude and smears as it is continually flow in this forum over years against Khmer people or other people. If you are capable to tolerate this kind of hatful racial swears, you are capable the worse. Negation of yuon genocide against Khmer and other people is a CRIME. It's in the nature of average murderers or psychopath to deny their crime or atrocity but it's the duty of responsible people who adhered to universal values such as democracy, human rights ect to stand these ever genociders face their responsibility and crime. P/S this is my message for these low scum genociders to begin the new year - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:34 PM Subject: Re: painting for your life Your racial hatred blinds you from having an average intellignece. How did the Vietnamese spy agents carry out the mass murder?? Did your comrades the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge leaders obey the order of the Vietnamese spy agents and implement it so enthusiatically?? If so, what does that tell about the intelligence of your Khmer race?? The truth is told by the victims of the genocide themselves, including Vann Nath in the story. The whole world knows about the unspeakable barbarism the unspeakable atrocity the unspeakable mass-murder of the Khmer Rouge against the Cambodian people. Presently York University, in Toronto, Canada, is exhibiting in its main campus the atrocity of the Khmer Rouge against the Cambodian people in photos, including letters written in Khmer written by some Khmer Rouge members and sent to other Khmer Rouge members during their reign of terror and death. The fact that you're a converted Christian proves that you're illogical and irrational. (On Dec 26, 2:58 am, KULEN MONOROM kulen_mono...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On the 21st of November 2011, Mr. Nuon Chea read out his 2 hours statement to the YUON-Hun Sen controled ECCC that the killing of 1.7 million Khmer in 1975 to 1979 was prepared by YUON spy agents. Regards Kulen Monorom (the rice farmer's son) From: Perom Uch perom@cambodia-gateway.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 26 December 2011 2:20 AM Subject: painting for your life -- Forwarded message -- From: Tom Kramer tskra...@usa.net Date: Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 8:52 AM Subject: painting for your life To: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/12/22/magazine/the-lives-they... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org- Hide quoted text - -
Re: Khmer Conscience
Great message, thank Pou. Happy 2012 for you and your loved ones - Original Message - From: sacrava sacravato...@optusnet.com.au To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Khmer Conscience Khmer is Khmer. Xmer is not a Khmer. Xmer love to live under Yuon. Xmer are slave Yuon forever ! I'm 4 generation of Chen background, but I was born in Cambodia 60 yrs ago. Cambodia is Country of Khmer, ruling by Khmers not under Yuon ,Siem or others nation.. In Australia there are more than 100 nationalities who live harmony,prosperety under Australian Government its People .No one comes to Australia to conquer the country. it's unlike Cambodia Hanoi colonizes suppress Khmer People and robbe its weath everyday though Hun Xen his government. Khmer has to think act as a Khmer, not a slave for life of Hanoi or Bangkok and others nations. Cheers, Ung Bun Heang Dear fellow Khmer. I am also one Khmer, but I see different fates from the past. Khmer is racist and racism is a thrinking ideolody. Look! khmer empire had been fragmented and creating Thailand, Laos, South Vietman, in each one of which has million khmer in there. Why? One sole race in one nation could not be be big, but it would be small and weak like cambodia. If we want its to be strong, we need to allow other nations to come and invest on every things. So that Khmer would have jobs and educations and we could have good faces toward globalizatoin. This is the only way we could do, if it's not, all Khmer would stay barbarians for ever and will disappear from the map. With my best regards from Kampuchun. On Dec 23, 12:32 am, Davan Long davan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Compatriots, As most of us living in the West, I left Cambodia in the 80’s and could hardly remember the last time I wrote something in Khmer. All my schooling and professional training over the past twenty five years were in either English or French. However, during my early childhood in Cambodia and refugee camps, I had great passion for reading and I read every Khmer books I could put my hands on – after all, there was nothing else to do in refugee camps. A few months ago, at the height of the Boeung Kak protests against forced eviction, I exchanged my view with others on Facebook. Most people posted their comments in Khmer while I wrote mine in English. Interestingly, one poster labelled me as a foreigner because of my English writing, and said that a true Khmer person should write in Khmer when exchanging view with other fellow Khmers, especially with those in Cambodia. He was right, and I was embarrassed, if not ashamed, for not being at ease with my mother tongue language. Since then, I’ve spent some precious times to relearn Khmer. As part of the learning process, I decide to write a poem which I’d like to share with you all. Attached are fragments of my poem entitled: “Uwat Reas”. It is not complete yet, and I plan to keep writing it to reflect new realities as they happen in Cambodia. I hope you find it worth reading, and would welcome any comments you may have. Last but not least, I would like to take this opportunity to wish you all a safe and happy holiday season. Best wishes, Davan Long -- Chers Compatriotes, Comme la plupart d'entre nous qui demeurent en Occident, j'ai quitté le Cambodge dans les années 80 et pouvait à peine me rappeler la dernière fois que j'ai écrit quelque chose en khmer. Toutes mes études et formation professionnelle au cours des vingt cinq dernières années ont été en anglais ou en français. Cependant, durant mon enfance au Cambodge et dans les camps de réfugiés, j'avais une grande passion pour la lecture et j'avais lu tous les livres Khmer je pourrais mettre mes mains sur - après tout, il n'y avait rien d'autre à faire dans les camps de réfugiés. Cet été, durant le sommet des protestations contre des expulsions forcées à Boeung Kak, j'ai exprimé mon point de vue avec les autres dans Facebook. La plupart des gens ont affiché leurs commentaires en khmer alors que moi j'ai écrit la mienne en anglais. Fait intéressant, un interlocuteur me prenait pour un étranger à cause de ma rédaction en anglais, et il disait qu’ un vraie Khmer devrait écrire en khmer lors de l'échange avec les autres Khmers, surtout avec ceux qui résidaient au Cambodge. Il avait raison, et j'ai été embarrassé, sinon honteux, pour ne pas être à l'aise avec ma propre langue maternelle. Depuis lors, j'ai passé des moments précieux pour réapprendre khmer. Lors de cet apprentissage, je décide d'écrire un poème que je voudrais partager avec vous tous. Ci-joints sont des fragments de mon poème intitulé: Uwat Reas. Il n'est pas encore complété, et je prévois de continuer à écrire encore pour quelques temps pour qu’il contienne les nouvelles réalités comme ils se produisent au Cambodge. J'espère que vous trouverez qu'il vaut la lecture, et j’accepte avec plaisir tous les commentaires que
Re: Sarus Exchange Program: Invitation for Information Session
I’m not interested in mess yuon Indochina operation. Did youns (Hanoi) teach their slaves and offspring how yuons planed and organized the killing field and other yuon expansionist and genocidal operation in Cambodia and SEA? Or yuons count to lie over these facts forever? The big question is, can yuons continue to do that? - Original Message - From: Soksan Ngoun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Sarus Exchange Program: Invitation for Information Session Dear all, Are you interested in seeking personal development? Would you like to sharpen your leadership, communication, and research writing skills? Would you like to contribute to society through volunteerism? And what's about building international social networks across your country? If you answer YES to those questions, you are the ones we are looking for. Sarus Exchange Program 2012 is now open for all university students! Sarus Exchange Program is the first volunteer exchange program for Cambodian and Vietnamese university students. Sarus aims to promote greater understanding and friendship between young people of Vietnam and Cambodia through traveling, group living, and service-learning. Sarus 2012 is now accepting applications from both countries. The deadline for application is December 01, 2011. Application materials and information are available at www.sarusprogram.wordpress.com. We encourage you to attend our Information Session for free entrance to know more about program and application procedure. Where: Conference Hall, University of Puthisastra (សាកលវិទ្យាល័យពុទ្ធិសាស្រ្ត), Buidling B, 3rd Floor When: Sunday 06, November 2011 Time: 8:00am - 10:30am Click HERE to make registration for the event. Registration deadline: November 5th, 2011 Share it to your friends or colleagues! -- --- Ngoun Soksan Cambodia Program Assistant Sarus Exchange Program H/P: +85511707504 Email: sarusprogram.cambodia.i...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: KHMER IS ONY THE LANGUAGE FOR KAMPUCHUN TO SPEAK WITH.
Funny the fascist kampouch ass version of Khmer history. Yuons did invent many versions of Khmer history, more or less worse than this one, consequence to yuon expansionist and genocidal policy and yuonisation of Cambodia. Yuons also brainwashed koun Khmer that yuons are Khmer brothers and sisters and love Khmer so much. Yuons built Angkor and had secured Khmer on various times while in reality yuons led endless atrocity and genocide against Khmer to rob Khmer land and resources. By killing (targeted) all Khmer intellectuals during the killing field and top the stupid khmer rouge to repress and kill more Khmer and Khmer intellectuals yuons believe to overcome yuon expansionist and genocidal policy along with yuon enterprise of political and historical falsification against Khmer. … On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Kampuchun kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer Empire had been fragmented and changed. First Sanskrit/Khmer builders had been Hindu believers of Shiva God, from which its power had been coming down to the living God King as all his orders had then religiously been embedded in God’s orders. This was the true first Sanskrit/Khmer king power for exploring new unknown world, killing several thousand local indigenous resistant groups for capturing their lands, establishing Khmer Empire with thousand stone building Temples. Providentially first Sanskrit/Khmer conquerors had always kept alive individuals who had surrendered to them, mostly women, children and young innocent minority persons or groups with any different dialects they had been speaking with. There has then had social transformation proceeding to Sanskrit/Khmer Hindu culture through hundred years of peace time, during which Sanskrit/Khmer speaking and Hinduism belief education had been done to all local indigenous. This Sanskrit/Khmer culture foundation heritage, which had been self- evaluated as highly superior, was intended to get a religious motivation for building a successful of one large Khmer Empire. Thousand Hindu stone temples had been built all over Khmer territories as evidences are shown. First Sanskrit/Khmer king establisher had appointed his sons or brothers or cousins on every conquered territory as provincial king-Governors with sufficient number of Sanskrit/Khmer warriors for controlling their local regional. He had then become the king of kings (king of provincial kings); who must execute all orders from him as from Shiva God. There was no clear political strategy; all power had depended on people belief of Shiva God. Everything could be done; likewise, Khmer-Sanskrit-speaking people had taken hundred years for building Angkor and Bayon Temple, from one generation to another. There was no political cleverness tactic for controlling the empire from the top to the bottom for a long time to come as how to communicate faster enough as needed in time of troubles; as history had revealed that it had taken months for being able to communicate orders, back and forth, from and to Angkor capital city. Sanskrit/Khmer Social and religious evolution. This change had been developing in Khmer empire itself, through 500 years of peace time, in which, Buddhism has had silently been on the rise in North Eastern among Siamese indigenous group, through Mekong river bancs then went down stream for hundred years until the end of delta shore, and had slowly spread outward all over the entire empire amid all indigenous locals. During those 500 years internal stability, thousand and thousand powerful Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer warriors and Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer local ruler leaders alike had abused their power for getting free sex with Buddhist native women or girls any time they wanted. Then they had been creating Buddhist Khmer/Siamese/hybrid, Khmer/Viet/hybrid, and Khmer/Lao Hybrid children. Those new hybrid kids had been feeding and raising by their own Buddhist mothers, which had spoken local dialects and Khmer. There had then been later on, million and million Buddhist multi-ethnic double/hybrid children all the way through hundred years of tranquility, so on and on. All original Hindu Sanskrit/Khmer had been old and sick, died and had continued to die everyday, then all had vanished away, leaving those million young descendent Khmer/multi-indigenous hybrid taken power transferred all over the country. This had caused belief disruption of Shiva God that had been entrenched with the king of king. They had spoken two or three languages, Siamese/Khmer, Yuon/Khmer, and Lao/Khmer. Those Buddhist hybrid provincial Kings and their warriors had not respected any order from central Sanskrit/Khmer king authorities. They had their own strategy against old Khmer-Motto left from their
Re: Kampuchun is better
Freedom meant for the fascist kampouch ass; free killing, lying and falsification of history. This is all the fascist kampouch ass perception of freedom - Original Message - From: Kampuchun kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:40 PM Subject: Kampuchun is better Kampuchun. To all Cambodian who are living in Cambodia and in over sea as well. Please be understood that, what I have written in my texts is not for Hun Sen to listen to, but just for everyone who have read them to be well realized what they are doing and what our Cambodian society is being changed or in other words grown according to multi-ethnic Khmer speaking Cambodia’s inhabitants, which have been practicing right or wrongly according to their own beliefs. I see that anywhere in Cambodia superstition have been taken over under the Big Buddhist monk label. Because Buddha had never preached the way they are doing today, in which they are only playing politics and making easy money without ashamed under educated human eyes. From my prospective view point of my own perception, when next million more educated Cambodian majorities will be appeared in the near future, Cambodian superstitious Buddhism label will slowly change to another real religion that is more spiritual organized with more humanitarian activity. Remember, now every Cambodian village has 2 or 3 primary schools, every commune or Khom has 2 or 3 complementary schools, every srock or district has 2 or 3 colleges and every province we have 2 or 3 universities with 60 additional more in Phnom Penh. . In the next few years we will get million and million college graduates and continue to come every year more and more. And we need to realize that education in any field they get, they still have logical analysis in their head on what they see around, they hear and at that point any hypocrisy, cheating and lying can not be hidden and then a general big “People power” push will slowly be appeared for a real momentum for a change. Cambodian leaders need to understand that your current dynasty amalgamation with such Cambodian kingship encircle could never be able to challenge “People power” and save this very old and beloved regime as we have seen experiences from recent Arab world revolutions. However in Cambodia, they still have at least 10 more years to survive with no problem, but they need also, from now, to have courage for consultation with senior prominent domestic and foreign politician advisory as well, best from UK and Norway to get to Know-how with a win-win political strategy for making on time a constitutional reform with an institutional network structure mandated for sustained maintaining law and order under the frame work of free expression, freedom of civil liberty, people equal right with the same human dignity under the same law. Kampuchun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
RE: It is time to stop Khmer Ignorance
ត្រឹមត្រូវណាស់អ៊ំប្រុស, ក្នុងសង្គមខ្មែរជាយូរយាណាស់មកហើយ សម្បូរបំផុតគឺ ពូជអាមោកនិង អាពាលឬឃាតករបាទដៃប្រលាក់ឈាម ក្រៅពីនេះគឺពូជអាឡេមឡឺមនិងអាចោលម្សៀត ។ យួនមិន មែនទើបតែប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរក្នុងរបបបីឆ្នាំប្រាំបីខែ និងបច្ចុប្បន្ននេះទេ តែយួនបានព្យាយាម ប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ រាប់សតវត្សមកហើយៗម្តង់ៗយួនសំដៅសម្លាប់បំបាត់ពូជខ្មែរពូជអ្នក ចេះ អ្នកជា ពូជអ្នកតស៊ូ យួនទុក តែពូជអាមោក, អាពាល, អាឡេមឡឺមខ្លះៗបង្កាត់ពូជជាមួយវាតែ ប៉ុណ្ណោះ ព្រោះពូជពួកអាមោក អាពាល អាឡេមឡឺមនេះ វាងាយយួនបង្វិលក្បាលប្រើប្រាស់តាមចិត្តវា គ្មានតវ៉ារកខុសត្រូវស្អីទេ យួនសម្លាប់ងាប់ឥតនយ័ដូចសត្វធាតុអញ្ចឹង គ្មានចង់វែកញែករកខុសត្រូវការ ពិតសខ្មៅអ្វីទាំងអស់ ។ ពូជពួកវាទាំងនេះកុំថាឡើយទៅដោះស្រាយរឿងធំដំ រឿងសង្គមឬនយោបាយ ខ្មោចយស្អី សូម្បីគ្រាន់តែឲ្យចេះពិចារណាបែងចែងសនិងខ្មៅក៏ខួរពួកវានេះទៅមិនរួចដែរ ទាំងនេះ ហើយដែលធ្វើឲ្យសង្គមខ្មែរស្គាល់តែភាពខ្មៅងងឹតយ៉ាងនេះ ។ នេះខ្ញុំមិននិយាយចំពោះសង្គមអវិជ្ជា ផង ។ ក្នុងរបបបីឆ្នាំប្រាំបីខែទៀតសោតយួនខំបង្ហើយពូជខ្មែរអ្នកជា អ្នកតស៊ូ ស្ទើរតែរលត់អស់ ទៅហើយ ។ ទោះជាយ៉ាងណាខ្ញុំមិនអស់សង្ឃឹម បើព្រលឹងបុព្ធបុរសខ្មែរនៅតែសន្ថិតក្នុងចិត្តកូនខ្មែរ De : Kheng, Khemarak kkh...@vorys.com Date : Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:19:35 -0400 Objet : RE: It is time to stop Khmer Ignorance Dear Lok Savun, Your amendment is a Mother True. Thanks again for your revelation. With Regards, K2 From: camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camdisc@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Savun Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:14 AM To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: It is time to stop Khmer Ignorance James, Thank you for good constructed statement. I love it! I want to add a point to your last paragraph, which start with to solve the youn's problems.. Even though, Khmer moral and knowledge are developed, without economically strong and prosperity, it will lead them to no where. As you can see how they are poisoning Khmer in side Cambodia right now. When Khmer getting in old age, they send them to temple to spend all their resources to build temple for the next life. When Khmer are young, send them to Bar, club, Karaoke, drink until they can not work. When a country strong, depend on every Khmers are prospers with morally, and economically. Savun De : James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Date : Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Objet : It is time to stop Khmer Ignorance Please read attachment. Thanks, James Khmer_Neak_Jea_10.pdf 75K Télécharger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Here's something that CPP was teaching Khmer Kids.
That your great kampouch ass maneuver like during the killing field and more other dark periods under your fascist kampouch ass mess leading and influence. This kind of things or even worse, happened in Cambodia during yuons official occupation of Cambodia. The same thing continues in today Cambodia but in different way but not less devastated Stop your your fascist kampouch ass stupidity and damn accusation against innocent people for your own crimes and evilness - Original Message - From: Kampuchun kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Here's something that CPP was teaching Khmer Kids. This vedio is from Vietnam school children for making ignorant Khmer angry. For Kampuchun, we beblieve this video is khmer extemist political manipulation. From Kampuchun On Oct 11, 2:20 pm, Savun incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: I am just want to bring the issue across. Many people told me that Cambodia is developing and it is better than before. It is NOT true. Here's what they taught Khmer kids in the past...see yourself in the video below. http://youtu.be/lk6DequmXTU That’s video is in the past and include one of Khmer’s star. And today society, They are doing exact the same thing to majority of Khmers...and a few in camdisc declared just that... To me, Cambodia is NOT developing, compare to billions of dollars borrowing form other countries and aids from those countries as well. Cambodia is in debt and Khmer’s great grand children are going to pay for it. Savun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmer separatists are 99% Khmer Krom. This group has been pushing SRP to the wrong dirrection.
Time to get out of your fascist kampouch ass stupidity! You are the fascist kampouch ass reparative race yourself who tried to separate Khmer from Cambodia. Khmer know who they are and don’t need your kampouch ass to say who they are, what to say or what to do ! Lately your kampouch ass fooled the world that call yuon is a crime now your kampouch ass spread to fool that being Khmer or called Khmer is also a crime. Leave Khmer people alone ah fascist kampouch ass. Your fascist kampouch ass had committed too much hated, racial crime, atrocity and bloodshed against too much innocent life, your fascist kampouch ass will pay your fascist kampouch ass crimes so dearly one day. You are the worse fascist kampouch ass that the world ever know, your fascist kampouch ass is even worse evil than Hitler Nazis - Original Message - From: Kampuchun kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 7:01 PM Subject: Khmer separatists are 99% Khmer Krom. This group has been pushing SRP to the wrong dirrection. New faces of Cambodia are main stream Cambodian If Khmer are insisting to separate themselves from CAMBODIAN for adopting old Khmer mentality, they will now become “KHMER SEPARATIST” I would say SRP and HRP are Khmer separatists because they called en English Cambodian people Khmer, unlike CPP did in Khmer ‘”Chun-Kampuchea”. Old Khmer culture has been creating something that Khmer blood impurity is unacceptable. If anyone wants to understand this prehistoric culture please just carefully listen to the Khmer talk about their Cambodia's politics. Even in English, they call each other Khmer, because they want to separate themselves from the word Cambodian,” whom they think Khmer blood is impure, regardless to the English specific name called designation Cambodian according to the formal country’s name Cambodia in relevance to its sole inhabitants without discriminating of origin of birth or in other words race. This Khmer separatism has been a mistaken thought that the majority Cambodian population is 95% Khmer ethnic. But the census is fully wrong, because they just go from house to house asking what ethnicity are you? QUESTIONS: What is your ethnicity? ANSWERS: All 95% of Cambodia's persons are answering in Khmer language: Yes we are Khmer! This is called a Khmer-self-proclaimed Cambodian. QUESTION: Why it's wrong? ANSWER: Because, 95% persons in Cambodia are self-proclaimed KHMER for personal and job security reason. But those 95% Cambodian inhabitants are instead of multi-ethnic hybrids, having blood relation between different ethnics or races as Khmer, Vietnamese, Chinese, Lao, Champ, Thai, hill tribe’s persons and others. These people have been living together for hundred years, making continual inter-racial marriages, and then they have been producing successive young generations of million and million double or triple hybrid Cambodian with fluent Khmer speaking. They are just Cambodian of multi-ethnic social integration. They are Cambodian of new faces. This last category of people is the Cambodian main stream middle class. They are mostly educated, having new thinking, like to live in towns as businessmen or government officials. They are smart, having clear outlook that “Khmer racism logo” will lead to a new ethnic cleansing and a new killing field for purifying Khmer blood from Cambodian again. They always said YES to Khmer separatist politicians, but they VOTE only for CPP’s as they see that they are always pronouncing Chum- Kampuchea, but not Khmer racism. Most Cambodian therefore think that they are more safe than others parties whom are racial separatist through their every day language. Believe or not, just go to visit Phnom Penh yourselves, you will see on any street, 95% persons are new-face Cambodian, of whom Khmer separatist blame them as Vietnamese camouflage, as they are not matched Khmer primitive and origin fundamental profile. QUESTION: How about Khmer? ANSWER: Yes, Khmer are now integrated into the whole Cambodian (Chun- Kampuchea) as a component of it, similarly what are Khmer Surin as Thai in Thailand, Khmer Krom are Vietnamese in Vietnam, and else where, such as Khmer are French in France, and Khmer are American in America etc. Cambodian democracy needs to have courage for changing the old way of thinking for adjusting to the continued changing Cambodian social fabric. We must defuse racism time bomb and have a strong political support from a novel policy of non discrimination of origin of birth to start with, as a win-win strategy by using a new speaking term, for winning hearts and souls of every diverse Cambodia’s inhabitants. People need to understand now that persons who speak English could not be English/men or Briton, they could be American, Canadian or Chinese or Korean, Likewise, who speak Khmer are not bearing Khmer blood, they could be American,
Re: This is a must read article by Dr. Peang-Meth, a Khmer political scientist
Dear All, Of course, there are some truths in what Pr Gaffar Peang wrote but also a bunch of false affirmations or falsification of events or history. As responsible academic person, hence he considered as Khmer person yet, Professor Gaffar Peang should do more search on each events he wrote or affirming than picked some arbitral information invented or kindly offered by the winners or perpetuators of crimes and co. If not, he will not only spite on the graves of the victims and destroy Khmer but will also gratuity serve the causes of the perpetuators of crimes whether it is deliberated act or not. And it’s extremely inadmissible irresponsible act specially from a person like him. Regards Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: S. Sophan To: Cambodian Community of Canada Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:52 PM Subject: This is a must read article by Dr. Peang-Meth, a Khmer political scientist Wednesday, October 5, 2011 Brief History of Vietnamese Expansionism vis-à-vis Cambodia Brief History of Vietnamese Expansionism vis-à-vis Cambodia In 1941, Ho created the Viet Minh, an abbreviation of Vietnam Doc Lap Dong Minh Hoi, or League for the Independence of Vietnam, and spread its anti-French activities to Laos and Cambodia, where the Viet Minh later fragmentized the anti-French local Khmer Issarak front into a Khmer Viet Minh front. In 1949, the Viet Minh instituted the Ban Van Dong Thanh Lap Dang Nhan Cach Mang Cao Mien (Canvassing Committee for the Creation of the Revolutionary Kampuchean People's Party) and created the Kampuchean People's Liberation Army in 1950. By Gaffar Peang-Meth Professor of Political Science (retired) University of Guam Originally posted at: http://www.khmerinstitute.org/articles/art13vietnamization.html On Christmas Eve 1978, more than 100,000 Vietnamese troops, backed by tanks and aircraft, crossed the border into Cambodia. In 14 days of fighting, Hanoi's army sent Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge fleeing. The Vietnamese captured Phnom Penh Jan. 7, 1979, installed a puppet regime and stayed for the next 10 years. For victims of Pol Pot's genocidal rule, which began April 17, 1975 and resulted in the deaths of upwards of two million people, Jan.7, 1979 was the day of deliverance by Vietnam. Surely, Vietnam was their savior and their liberator at a time when the world watched and did nothing about the horrors of the Killing Fields. However, for many Cambodians, Jan. 7th is also a day of infamy. Pol Pot was replaced by those referred to as Cambodians with Khmer bodies but Vietnamese heads, the Khmer Viet Minh. This cohort was created by the Vietnamese Communist Lao Dong, trained at the Son Tay Military Academy and the Nguyen Ai Quoc political school, and led by a disgruntled regional field commander, Hun Sen, who became indebted to Hanoi for his return to power. Many Cambodians felt that substituting the Khmer Viet Minh for the Khmer Rouge was like replacing cholera with the plague. A host of foreign governments also worried. The world was still governed by the well-specified rule of law founded on the principle of absolute, comprehensive, permanent and inviolable sovereignty and independence. As Singapore argued before the international community at the United Nations, the world is no longer safe, and peace and security are no longer assured, if a more powerful state is allowed to invade a weaker one like Vietnam had done. The Association of South East Asian Nations spearheaded calls for Vietnam to withdraw its troops from Cambodia. As a result, the United Nations and other international organizations became a political-diplomatic battleground for many years between proponents and opponents of Vietnam's invasion. And so it was that the anti-Vietnamese Khmer Resistance was born, first as separate armed bands with similar goals, and later as a loose coalition of Cambodians of the fallen Khmer Republic, Cambodians of the monarchy, and the leftovers of the Khmer Rouge. Despite their differences, they worked together toward pressuring Vietnam into withdrawal and to seek Cambodian self-determination. Cambodian nationalists assert that Vietnam attacked Pol Pot in 1979 because he became too independent of Hanoi. The invasion was initiated to bring the insolent back into line. Since 1979, they have asked: If Vietnam's goal was to save and liberate the Cambodian people from Pol Pot, what prevented Vietnam from surrendering a freed Cambodia and her people to work with the world community to build a new government and social order? Would not Vietnam have received profound gratitude by ceding to the United Nations the role of assisting Cambodians' self-determination rather than imposing 10 years of foreign occupation? HANOI’S GRAND DESIGN Hanoi, like the rest of the world, knew that Pol Pot's agents had perpetrated brutalities against the Khmer people since April 17
Re: Cambodian should speak with civlized Khmer words
Yuons social integration and evolution conception is to lead yuon Nazis extermination policy against other nation or people to expand yuon race and territory - Original Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 1:47 AM Subject: Cambodian should speak with civlized Khmer words Please don't be so idiotic as you separate Cambodian people, at the same time, by calling Khmer for “Lotus revolution”, but you don’t even know that Khmer speaking Cambodian social fabric is diverse or in other words multi-ethnic social integration for hundred years, then you call for unity by lifting one sole Khmer ethnic name because you mistakenly think that they are all of Khmer race because they are Khmer speaking. This is clear evidence showing that you are all so stupid. American, Australian, and Canadian are speaking English but they are not of English race or Briton. When you call Cambodian for Khmer unity, you will divide Cambodian society in stead; this is the reason why I name you “Khmer separatists” because you think that all Cambodian with lighter skin color are illegal Vietnamese immigrants brought by Hanoi for helping Hun Sen to win the poll over opposition parties. Those opposition members’ activists have been tricking by whispering to farmer constituents in isolated area that, you look at those new registered people are unmatched Khmer fundamental profile. They are immigrant Vietnamese with fluency Khmer speaking as camouflage. But when we look at our hundred thousand young students, our modern concert singers, our merchants in any markets in the country we see they are now 90% with different faces and clear skins, due to the continual multi-ethnic integration (Multi-ethnic blood relation). Look! There are hundred foreign embassies plus thousand NGO’s workers, World Bank, IMF, UN and other hundred thousand western organization employees working anywhere all over for helping poor Kampuchea (Cambodian). They have full freedom of expression, but they didn’t say anything about that at all. They know that there is no wonder for seeing Cambodia changing, which is due to natural social multi-ethnic integration, like wise their own countries are done every today. The most inflammatory Khmer separatist propagandas are doing right now is to spread that all actual light skin graduate Cambodian students are Vietnamese children as they are having different faces and skin from Khmer fundamental profile. Khmer separatists are ignorantly misunderstood how social evolution is processing among them, because due to their malnutrition of eating dead meat and spoiled salted fish for generations. This is an opposition parties’ mistake, which is using for increasing more seats from Khmer separatist movement, mostly from Khmer Krom immigrants and some several other uneducated and unaware individuals with dark brown skin, self-proclaimed that they are genuine Khmer race. But the fact of sun burnt dark skins from sun light exposure is due to farm works, not from races for generations, but they are also hybrid-multi-ethnic Cambodian like others. This radical movement that has been driven by those ignorant opposition activists will instead probably encourage more million clear skin hybrid Cambodians-Chinese- Vietnamese to go to vote for CPP for protecting themselves due to racial political cleansing tactic using by those idiot opposition activists. This is an offence again humanity jump start movement, Cambodian government needs to be concerned with. We think that, Cambodian elected government should not allow such perilous Campaign to go uncheck, even though we Cambodian must have free expression under the frame work of free and fair elections. But not to have racial hatred with its. Our prospective perception view point is to alert the government for paying heavy attention to that racial and malicious political hatred tactics for playing a dangerous game just for winning polling ballot, as intentionally creating momentum that could easily return back to killing fields for the second time in a future ahead. How could those idiot Khmer separatists do, if fairness consideration among Cambodia’s inhabitants is in CPP’s hands? You have nothing to do with Khmer blood purity from prehistorically Khmer empire glory and insist to foolishly call diverse Khmer speaking Cambodian people Khmer persons. Look! Diverse American speaks English but they are American instead. Like wise, we speak Khmer but we all are diverse Kampuchea (Cambodian). Please remember once more time, that the Khmer heritage culture foundation had been built, but it had already been fragmented then disappeared thousand years before Mr. Hun Sen has born in this country. Be patient he needs more experts, more times, and bigger power in order to be able to pass-over this current Cambodian social culture with its malicious constitution
Re: សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេ
ខ្មែរយ៉ាំង, ក្បាលលោកសួង សោភណ័្ឌ និងក្រុមបក្សលោកប្រហែលអាចធុននឹងតំបងប្រនងរបស់ពួកអ៉ាយ៉ងបាន តែមិនដឹងក្បាលអស់លោកអស់ហ្នឹងអាចធុននឹងពាក្យចាក់ដោត ត្បកស្អំ ញុះញង់បំបែកបំបាក់របស់យួននិងអាយ៉ងបានឬទេ? ល្បិចមួយរៀលៗនេះត្រូវបានពួកអាយ៉ងនិង បក្សពួកប្រើសម្រាប់ញុះញង់បំបែកបំបាក់និងទិញក្បាលពួកប្រឆាំងបានយ៉ាងងាយបំផុត ។ នេះជាបញ្ហាមួយពិបាកក្នុងសង្គមមនុស្សខ្មែរបច្ចុប្បន្ន ។ ក្បាលដែលគ្មានការចងចាំ ឡប់ឡែ ឆាប់ភ្លេច មើលស្រាល ហើយដើរមិនទាន់ល្បិចកលបោកប្រាស់ដើម្បីសម្លាប់និងបំបែកបំបាក់របស់សត្រូវឬឃាតករ ។ - Original Message - From: Khmer Young To: James Sok Cc: CAMDISC GOOGLEGROUPS Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 12:21 AM Subject: Re: សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេ បក្សសម រង្សី មិនបានយកជីវិតមនុស្សទៅប្តូរនឹងអំពើហឹង្សារបស់ជនផ្តាច់ការទេ។ អ្នកដែលនិយាយដូច្នេះហាក់ដូចជា ក្រុមមនុស្សតែមួយដែលតែងតែយកជនរងគ្រោះកម្ពុជាធ្វើជាចំណាប់ខ្មាំងដើម្បីគំរាមរងគ្រោះដល់ជនរងគ្រោះដ៏ទៃ។ លោកជែម សុខមានយោបល់ល្អ តែបើសិទ្ធបុគ្គលគេហ៑ានធ្វើដូច្នោះដើម្បីការពារផលប្រយោជន៏ជនរងគ្រោះ លោជែម សុខថាជាការខុស ចុះលោកជែម សុខវិញបានធ្វើអ្វីខ្លះហើយ? បានតែជួយបន្ទុចបង្អាក់ដើម្បីការពារជនប្តាច់ការ ឬបានលើកទឹកចិត្តអ្នកដែលហ៑ានងើបឡើងតសូ៑? សូមអរគុណ ពីខ្មែរយ៉ាំង 2011/9/23 James Sok entry_me...@yahoo.com Please read attachment in Khmer. Thanks James From: Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com To: khmeryo...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេ Thursday, September 22, 2011 សេរីភាពនិងភាពថ្លៃថ្លូរមិនអាចបានមកដោយការអង្វរករទេ ខ្មែរនឹងមិនស្លាប់ ហើយក៏មិនត្រូវបានគេបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើមើលងាយដែរ បើយើងមានយុវជនដូចជាសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌ ហើយយើងជួយគ្នាការពារយុវជនក្លាហាននេះ។ ប្រជាជនកម្ពុជាត្រូវគេបង្រ្កាបមិនអោយងើបឡើងតវ៉ាអ្នកមានអំណាចឡើយ។ មិនតែប៉ុណោ្ណះ ប្រជាជនខ្មែរភាគច្រើនជឿទៅលើពាក្យបញ្ចុះបញ្ចូលថានៅអោយស្ងៀមដើម្បីសន្សំសុខ។ តើប្រជាជនខ្មែរបានទទួលសុខទេ? តើសិទ្ធិសេរីភាពរមែងបានមកដោយការអង្វរករ ក្រាបលូនទទួចសុំឬទេ? លោកប្រធានាធិបតេយ្យហ្រ្វែងគ្លិន បិន ប្រាប់យើងថា អ្នកដែលបោះបង់សេរីភាពគ្រឹះដោយដូរយកសេរីភាព ដែលគេអោយបន្តិចបន្តួច អ្នកទាំងនោះនឹងបាត់បង់ទាំងពីរ។ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin ករណីសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌទទួលបានការគោរពពីប្រជាពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរ ទាំងអស់គ្នាជាពិសេសក្រុមយុវជន។ តែជនរងគ្រោះដូចសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌរមែងទទួលការបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើពីសំណាក់ជនទមិឡការពារ្ ជនផ្តាច់ការនិងការពារឈ្មួញជញ្ជក់ឈាមប្រជាជនខ្មែរ។ ពួកដែលសរសេរបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើអោយសោភ័ណ្ឌនៅទីនេះជាមនុស្សសត្វតិរច្ឆាន មានភ្នែកឥតប្រស្រី មានក្បាលឥតខួរ និងមានជីវិតអន់ជាងសត្វឆ្កែរទៅទៀត។ សោភ័ណ្ឌត្រូវបានគេវាយស្ទើរស្លាប់ព្រោះតែជួយជនរងគ្រោះដ៏ទៃទៀត តែត្រូវពួកតិរច្ឆានត្មិះតិះដៀលអោយ។ មានតែប្រទេសកម្ពុជាទេ ដែលជនរងគ្រោះត្រូវបានគេយកមកប្រើប្រាស់ដើម្បីគំរាមដល់ជនរងគ្រោះដ៏ទៃ។ តែអ្វីដែលយើងមើលឃើញគឺជនរងគ្រោះទាំងឡាយខ្វះការជួយគ្នាក្នុងគ្រាមានអាសន្ន។ ចំណុចខ្សោយជាក់ ស្តែងគឺនៅពេលមានទុក្ខគេហៅសោភ័ណ្ឌអោយមកជួយ តែពេលប៉ូលីសអន្តិរតីយ៍សំរុកវាយដំសោភ័ណ្ឌ អ្នកទាំងនោះឈរមើលធ្វើព្រងើយ។ តែចំណុចខ្សោយនេះ អ្នកអាចបំពេញបានដោយបន្តប្តឹងតាមច្បាប់ដែលជាការប្រើថ្មវាយបំបែកថ្មបន្តទៅទៀត។ សុន ស៑ឿ អ្នកនិពន្ធចិននៃសិល្បៈនៃសង្គ្រាមនិយាយថា កំចាត់មួយរញ្ជួញមួយពាន់ or kill one terrify a thousand តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ ការពារមួយញ៉ាំងមួយលានអោយចូលរួម protect one empower a million. ខ្មែរនឹងមិនស្លាប់ ហើយក៏មិនត្រូវបានគេបញ្ចើចបញ្ចើមើលងាយដែរ បើយើងមានយុវជនដូចជាសួង សោភ័ណ្ឌ ហើយយើងជួយគ្នាការពារយុវជនក្លាហាននេះ។ ដោយសេចក្តីស្រឡាញ់និងរាប់អាន ពីខ្ញុំខ្មែរយ៉ាំង -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an
Re: The spy who loved us
Pou, how about Hang Ngor and Dith Pran? VC spies or Chinese spies ? Why non care about their case yet very similar to that of Phan Xuan An. It's sad that a lot of people in the world had contributed and continue to contribute to vietcong genocide empire by supporting or be passive face such repugnant crime and lie. No wonder that the truth about the killing field never get to know nor it interest no one, not even the victims themselves because these vn spies are everywhere at every level to lie and manipulate the world and things around. I'm wondering why Ngor and Dith Pran were very actives to spread lie, division and hate among and against Khmer through lie, falsification and manipulating of some events in yuon favor to legitimate viet invasion of Cambodia through killing field propagandas. Ngor was really allergy to those who convoke viets's connection to the killing field and that for some evident reasons. How Ngor and Dith Pran were really sure that the killing field is an act of polpot and his few comrades and not a horrific human butcher well planned by yuon vc long before polpot offered his service to that yuon vc butcher? And not only in Cambodia alone. - Original Message - From: sacrava sacravato...@optusnet.com.au To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:50 AM Subject: Re: The spy who loved us Thanks Lauk Senachetra for your inf. US foreign policy is loving Vietnam, no doubt. Does Yuon Hanoi is stupid to fight China for the sake of American ? Cheers, Ung Bun Heang Pham Xuan An was a spy master of Communist Vietnam .During the Vietnam's war he was liked and loved by American's media and News agency such as Reuter, Time and Newsweek .Most American reporters were shocked when they learnt that their most beloved and trusted reporter was a spy for Communist side. So many American lives were lost during the war and so many non-communist forces were too.After the victory of the war, Mr. An received the highest honor medal from the People Army of Vietnam one of which he saved thousand of Vietcong's lives from American bombarding during the invasion's of Cambodia 1970's without An's information the Vietcong would hit by huge casualties.The book was written by Thomas Bass with the title The Spy Who loved us The Vietnam War and Pham Xuan An's dangerous game. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Message from Khmer Lotus Revolution
Tina, មានការជជែកទាក់ទងនឹងការរៀបចំធ្វើបដិវត្តនៅប្រទេសខ្មែរច្រើនខែមកហើយ ។ ខ្ញុំគិតថា វាជារឿងមួយដែលយើងគួរលើកយកមកពិចារណា ប្រទេសខ្មែរជាប្រទេសមួយបាននិងកំពុងទទួលការជិះជាន់និងគំរាមគំហែងដោយរបបកុំម្មុនីស្តផ្តាច់ការដែលជា កញ្ជះដាច់ថ្លៃរបស់យួនឈ្លានពានរាប់ ទសវត្សមកហើយ ។ ប្រទេសខ្មែរ, ជនជាតិខ្មែរកំពុងតែប្រឈមមុខនឹងការ កំរាមកំហែងនិងមហាគ្រោះថ្នាក់ដែលខ្មែរត្រូវតែហ៊ានចេញមុខទទួលខុស ចំពោះវាសនាខ្លួន និងជាតិខ្លួន ។ ខ្មែរត្រូវតែហ៊ានតស៊ូប្រឆាំងនឹង ពួកអាយ៉ងនិងម្ចាស់ពួកវា បើខ្មែរចង់ឃើងពន្លឺនៅ សេរីភាព ភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរនិងសិទ្ធិអាច សំរេចវាសនាខ្លួនដោយខ្លួនឯងមិនត្រូវបណ្តោយអោយ យួនជាអ្នកកសំរេចវាសនាខ្មែរជំនួសខ្មែរទេ ។ តែសំណួរសួរ ថាតើយើងត្រូវធ្វើបែបណា? ទោះយាងណា ខ្ញុំសូមទទូចអោយមានការរៀចចំរចនាសម្ភន័និងស្ថាបន័គ្រប់គ្រងអោយបានត្រឹមត្រូវ ។ មានការចាត់ចែងនយោបាយជាតិនិង អន្តរជាតិអោយបាន រឹងមាំច្បាស់លាស់ ព្រោះវាមិនមែនជា ល្បែងលេងសើចតាមគំនិតរវើយរវាយទេ បើមិនដូច្នោះទេកុំប្រថុយអោយសោះព្រោះយួនអាចយកលេសឈ្លាតឧកាសកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរតាមទ្រង់ ទ្រោយធំម្តង ទៀតមិនខាន ។ ជាពិសេសកិច្ចការបែបនេះមិនអាចចេញពីមនុស្សឬ ក្រុមមនុស្សថោកទាបដែលមិនគោរពឬមិនស្គាល់គោលការណ៍ នៃលិទ្ធិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ មិនស្គាល់ស្ថានការណ៍រាក់ជ្រៅច្បាស់លាស់ គ្រាន់តែដកខ្សល់ដង្ហើមវាមកនាំយកក្លិនអាសោចនៃលិទ្ធិផ្តាចការណ៍ ភាពហឹង្សាសាមានខ្មៅងងឹត បើចិត្តខ្មៅ ថ្លើមខ្មៅ ខ្មៅសាមានដល់ឆ្អឹង លិទ្ធិផលគឺខ្មៅងងឹតមិនខាន ។ មិនខុសពីក្រុមអាវខ្មៅទេ ។ ទាំងនេះដែលខ្មែរត្រូវតែពិនិត្យនិងពិចារណា ។ - Original Message - From: Tina Veng To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 7:42 AM Subject: Re: Message from Khmer Lotus Revolution សេចក្ដីអំពាវនាវ មួយនេះ ! គឺដូចជាត្រូវដែរ តែទៅរួចឬមិនរួច ណ៎ ! យើងដែលរស់នៅបរទេស ស៊ីឆ្ងាញ់ ដេកស្រួល ម្នាក់ៗធូរធារ មានប្រាក់បៀវត្សរ៍គ្រប់គ្រាន់ តែបើក្រឡេកក ទៅមើលស្ថានភាព នៅកម្ពុជាវិញ គឺពលរដ្ឋមួយភាគធំ មានជីវិភាពក្រីក្រនៅឡើយ ។ ដូច្នេះ ការធ្វើបដិវត្ត ឬុំមិនធ្វើនោះ គឺវាអាស្រ័យតែ ទៅលើ សុច្ឆន្ទះ និង ការប្ដេជ្ញាចិត្ត របស់ពលរដ្ឋទាំងនោះឯណោះទេ ! មានរឿងខ្លះទៀត ក្រែងល៎ នៅក្នុងប្រទេសកម្ពុជា បែរជាពលរដ្ឋទាំងអស់នោះ មានទស្សនះផ្ទុយ ពីអ្វីដែល យើងជាអ្នករស់នៅ បរទេស បានឃើញ បានដឹង បានឮ ទាក់ទងនិងការដឹកនាំក្នុងប្រទេសកម្ពុជា បច្ចុប្បន្ន ផងក៏មិនដឹង ។ ប្រហែលជា ពួកគេ បានទទួលជាទំលាប់ទៅហើយ នូវការរស់នៅ ក្រោមលទ្ធិដឹកនាំរបៀបផ្ដាច់ការ មួយនេះ។ ប៉ុន្តែខ្ញុំសូមប្រាប់ពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរទាំងអស់ ថា! ស្ថានភាពនយោបាយនៅកម្ពុជាសព្វថ្ងៃនេះ គឺមិនខុសពីនៅប្រទេសភូមា ប្រទេសលីប៊ី ក្រោមអំណាច លោកកាដាហ្វ៊ី ប្រទេសទុយនេស៊ីពីមុន និង ប្រទេសកូរ៉េខាងជើងប៉ុន្មានឡើយ ។ តែអ្វី ដែលជាគ្រោះថ្នាក់ដ៏ធំធេង លើសជាងប្រទេសខាងលើនេះ នោះ គឺ ការការពារអត្ថសញ្ញាណជាតិ ខ្មែរ និងអធិបតេយ្យភាព ខ្មែរ បានដែរឬទេ នៅពេលអនាគត ? ព្រោះថាសព្វថ្ងៃ កម្ពុជា ក៏ជាប្រទេសដែលមានទីផ្សារ សេរី និង សាកលពហុនីយកម្ម ដែលក្នុងនោះ ក៏មានជនបរទេសមករស់នៅ រកស៊ី បានតាមតែចិត្ត ។ សូមកុំរំពឹងថា ខ្មែរនៅបរទេស អាចមានលទ្ធភាពគ្រប់គ្រាន់ ទៅជួយទ្រទ្រង់ ការការពារ បូរណភាពទឹកដី ឬ ទាមទាររកសិទ្ធសេរីភាព ពី របបដឹកនាំសព្វថ្ងៃបានឲ្យសោះ ឡើយ ។ អ្វីដែលខ្មែរនៅបរទេស មានលទ្ធភាពធ្វើនោះ គឺ បានត្រឹមតែចង្អុលនិង បង្ហាញប្រាប់ថា ពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរ អាចមាននឹងសិទ្ធសេរីភាព និងគ្មានការរំលោភ រឹបអូសយកដីធ្លី ហើយនិងប្រាកដជាមានជីវភាព ល្អប្រសើរជាយថាហេតុ ជាងបច្ចុប្បន្នកាលទៅទៀត បើសិនជាកម្ពុជា មានរដ្ឋាភិបាលមួយដែល ដឹកនាំដោយស្របទៅតាមនិតិលិទ្ធីប្រជាធិបតេយ្យដោយត្រឹមត្រូវ ។ ដូច្នេះ សព្វថ្ងៃ បងប្អូនខ្មែរ មានតែ ៣ ជំរើសតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ទី១ បើសិនណា ជាបងប្អូនយល់ថា បានសុខសប្បាយ និងមានសរីភាភគ្រាប់គ្រាន់ ក្រោមរបបនេះ គឺ ទ្រំារស់ក្រោមការដឹកនាំរបស់លោកហ៊ុនសែនជាបន្តទៅទៀត ។ ទី២ គឺត្រូវតែ ទាមទារឲ្យមានការផ្លាស់ប្ដូរមេដឹកនាំ ។ តែនេះ មិនមែនថា ជាងាយស្រួលឡើយ ព្រោះថា បើតាមកាលះទេសះបច្ចុប្បន្ន លោកហ៊ុនសែន មុខនឹងជា នឹងចាត់វិធានការ យ៉ាងតឹងរឹងជាទីបំផុត ដោយប្រើកម្លាំងប្រដាប់អាវុធមកបង្ក្រាបមួយរំពេច ដែលអាចនឹងឈានទៅដល់ការបង្ហូរឈាមជាមិនខាន ។ ទី៣ គឺត្រូវរងចាំដល់ការបោះឆ្នោត អណត្តិក្រោយសិន គឺ បងប្អូនខ្មែរ ត្រូវតែធ្វើការសម្រេចចិត្តអោយត្រឹមត្រូវ ជាពិសេស ត្រូវជ្រើសរើសមេដឹកនាំណាម្នាក់ដែលឆ្លាតវៃមានសមត្ថភាព មិនប្រើអំណចបង្ក្រាបគេឯង ហើយជាមនុស្សដែលដែលហ៊ានពលីជីវិត ដើម្បីជាតិ ។ តែក្នុងចំណុចនេះ យើងសូមដាក់ជាសំនួរសួរថា តើ រៀងរាល់នូវ ការបោះឆ្នោត រា់លើកនៅកម្ពុជា មានតម្លាភាពដែរឬទេ ? On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:22 PM, sacrava sacravato...@optusnet.com.au wrote: It's Good announcement ! Cheers, Ung Bun Heang Please listen this link : http://youtu.be/D3z9GtaZgQ8 Phka Chhouk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To
Re: Avertissement
Bang Bros and Tina, I ask someone who is more good in English than me. That person told me that the word Propon or Propaon come from the same source. ប្រពន្ធ័ : ចំណង, ចងរិតរួម, ឆ្វាក់ជំពាក់, ចងឆ្វាក់ ប្រពន្ធ : ចំណងចងឆ្វាក់រួមរិត, ជាប់ជំពាក់, ជំពាក់ឆ្វាក់ in Anglish, French, marry and wife is a Cercle or Alliance : ចំណង, សម្ភន្ធ័ - Original Message - From: Samuel Ung Koeun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Avertissement ធីណា, អ្នកមានយោបល់ពិតជាត្រឹមត្រូវចំពោះពាក្យ «ប្រពន្ធ» (ភរិយា) ។ ប៉ុន្តែសូមមេត្តាកែៈ ភាសាខ្មែរ (ភាសាគ្មាន «រ») ពន្ធដារ (ដា មាន «រ») ពន្ធនាគារ (មិនមែន «ព័ន្ធនាគារ»)។ សូមអរគុណ។ គសអ - Original Message - From: Tina Veng To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Avertissement បើខ្ញុំមិនច្រឡំទេ ប្ដី ប្រពន្ធ គឺត្រូវសរសេររបៀបនេះ គឺមិនមានសំយោគសញ្ញា ( ័) ដូច្នោះ ឡើយ ។ សូមកុំច្រឡំនិងពាក្យ ប្រព័ន្ធ ដែលមានន័យថា network , ឬភាសារខ្មែរ ដោយសរសេរ ដូចនិងពាក្យ ឆ្វាក់ប្រទាក់ជាប់គ្នា ឧ៖ ពាក់ព័ន្ធ ព័ន្ធដា ព័ន្ធនាគារ ។ល។ គួរពុំគួរ សូមអភ័យទោស 2011/9/4 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr អ្ហើយ លោក អ៊ូចល់, មេបក្សបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូក និងប្រពន្ធ មិនទាន់ស្អីផង ទាំងប្តីទាំងប្រពន្ធ ទូរសព្ទមកជេរប្រមាថគំរាមគេឯងគ្រប់គ្នា ទាំងភ្លឹងងុលទទឹងទិស ។ ខ្ញុំសង្ឃឹមថា អ៊ំប្រុស ចៅសេងអួ ដែលជាចាស់ទុំក្នុងក្រុម និងជាមនុស្សស្និតស្នាលជាប្តីប្រពន្ធទាំងពីរនាក់នេះ អាចជួយប្រមានប្រដៅ ប្តីប្រពន្ធទាំងពីរនាក់បានខ្លះៗមិនខាន ។ ខ្ញុំបានបន្ធូរដៃអោយច្រើនណាស់ដោយមានការយោគយល់ ..។ កុំបង្ខំខ្ញុំអោយសោះ ។ បើដឹងខ្លួនមុន គួរតែសុំទោសខ្ញុំហើយទៅ ។ ខ្ញុំអាចយកទៅពិចារណាមើល ។ សូមអរគុណ ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The Lotus Revolution project
Thank Lok Vincent. Great analyze with the whole picture from Dr Tith. Dr Tith has put some great ideas that merit to be taken in consideration. It's the first time I read something extremely interesting from Dr Tith. Dr Tith has changed and I'm the first one to appreciate his great wisdom and experience. I lately offered my opinions and my concerns regard to the organization of the movement and its consequences, not much different from Dr Tith though. From my acknowledgment I don't think that lotus people have capacity nor intelligence to do or understand what Dr Tith suggested them to. Hope it will not late for Dr Tith to do something great to change the destiny of Cambodia and leave the great heroism/name for Cambodian next generation to follow .. All Dr Tith should know is, struggle is not lonely river and people who struggle for noble causes must be braved going against the wind and have necessary arrogance and dignity to defend their causes. Those are what the great people did along human history. - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: The Lotus Revolution project On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, naranhkirit...@aol.com wrote: September 2, 2011 Dear Kal, and friends: Please, a link pasted below to a new page in my web site on the Lotus Revolution project, as organized by Ou Chal (France) and his overseas friends. I do hope these people would find it useful. Warm regards. N Tith - http://cambodiana.org/RecentNewsandAnalysis2011II.aspx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Avertissement
អ្ហើយ លោក អូចល់, មេបក្សបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូក និងប្រពន័្ធ មិនទាន់ស្អីផង ទាំងប្តីទាំងប្រពន្ធ័ ទូរសព៌មកជេរប្រមាថគំរាមគេឯងគ្រប់គ្នា ទាំងភ្លឹងងុលទទឹងទិស ។ ខ្ញុំសង្ឃឹមថា អ៊ំប្រុស ចៅសេងអួ ដែលជាចាស់ទុំក្នុងក្រុម និងជាមនុស្សស្និតស្នាលជាប្តីប្រពន្ធ័ទាំងពីរនាក់នេះ អាចជួយប្រមានប្រដៅ ប្តីប្រពន្ធ័ទាំងពីរនាក់បានខ្លះៗមិនខាន ។ ខ្ញុំបានបន្ធូរដៃអោយច្រើនណាស់ដោយមានការយោគយល់ ..។ កុំបង្ខំខ្ញុំអោយសោះ ។ បើដឹងខ្លួនមុន គួរតែសុំទោសខ្ញុំហើយទៅ ។ ខ្ញុំអាចយកទៅពិចារណាមើល ។ សូមអរគុណ ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: How Idiotic Silly You Are!!
Nope, the yuons kp can only handled and trained poor ignorant vulnerable people to use them. These yuons had kidnap poor kids whose parents were savagely massacred by these yuons to brainwash and inject yuon evilness and hatred in the brain to kill Khmer. How much kids who were kidnapped by yuons were killed because those kids preferred to be killed by yuons than to be used by yuons. Sure there much than those who yuons can inject yuon vc evilness and savagely in the brain. The yuons sorry ass cant handle intellectual people or people with a brain to think that why yuons vc ordered to execute (targeted) intellectual Khmer http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/VCTargetIntellecttual71jan.pdf since then. The yuons vc/Ronakse/Angkar trained their killing tools to mass grave Khmer people because Khmer refused yuon evilness and to be dominated by yuons and other because yuons vc want to rob Khmer land and richness. This explain all about the yuon vc’s nature and culture and how yuons operated their genocide empire in Cambodia to rob land and resources of Khmer. នេះហើយជាអ្វីដែលយួនវាហៅថា ការឆ្លាតរបស់ពួកវា. ពួកអាយួនអស់នេះវាហ៊ានបានតែជាមួយអ្នកទន់ខ្សោយ និងពួកល្ងង់ខ្លៅទេ វាមិនហ៊ាអនអើតក្បាលឬមិនអាចធ្វើអ្វីកើតជាមួយមនុស្សមានគតិ មានពញ្ញ: វាបានយ៉ាងច្រើនប្រើល្បិចថោកទាប និងភាពសាហាវយ៉ង់ឃ្នងសម្លាប់បំបាត់ជីវិតគេតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ Khmer rouge, Angkar/Ronakse = Yuons Vietcong sanctuaries and aggression against Cambodia http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/1BorderVCViolation67dec15.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/camboIncursionLegality70.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/LostWarVCBuiltBasesCambo70.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/1BgroundMaterial70may19.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/sanctuaryWarfare71.pdf Yuons vc infiltration : http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/camboInfiltration71jul18.pdf Cambodia press on vietcong : http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/camboInfoMinistPressConf73apr12.pdf Protest against Vietcong : http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/camboAgainstVC70mar11.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/KhRepubliNAssembDebatVC70mar19.pdf http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/vietsihanoukgeno/hanoiKhmerTellsOfFear70apr2.pdf P/S Wow Wow, if this is true, then ask yourself why the USA loves Vietnam and hates Cambodia. គ្រាន់បើណាស់អាយើ គេបោកក្បាលប្រើហើយនៅក្អេងក្អាងទៀត ។ ក្រែងយួនវាឆ្លាតណាស់ វាអាចយល់បានតើអី - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:41 PM Subject: How Idiotic Silly You Are!! Re: http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/1e339e0f561772ff# Hanoi aggressors had trained Khmer Rouge to become the Evily Butcher...the result was 2 million Khmers died and Cambodia is under Yuon Hanoi controlling through the CPP puppets. What, the North Vietnamese were able to train you to chop the heads of each other, and you joyfully apply this training, to the tune of 2 milllon heads?? D'ohh!! How superior they are!! How idiotic silly you are!! D'ohh!! You must be a barbaric mass-murderous Khmer Rouge, because you're trying to get the barbaric mass-murderous Khmer Rouge off the hook, which is in contrast to the knowledge of the Cambodian people and the entire world. Watch out!! Uncle Sam has given a greenlight to Hanoi's Vietnamization in Cambodia. On my part, I don't believe that it's true. Even if the USA loves Vietnam and hates Cambodia, it can't support the Vietnamization of Cambodia, because doing so isn't in its interest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
Re: Freedom isn't Free
Sir hongchikong, this proves that people didn’t fight against anyone gene or race but against evilness or criminals to stand those criminals for responsibility face to their evilness and atrocity whether it happens of yuons or someone else…. It has nothing to deal with the race. But of course, yuons vc ect, like to play victims and carte race to get away from their crimes. - Original Message - From: Hong Chi Kong To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free I don't know about that. Even you can pass what you just said, you still have to pass the rest of the criteria. Even you look like the barbarian(like Ms Gold Treasure said), eat only the barbarian foods(Prahok and never touch Nuc Mam,roast duck), you are still contaminated by using just that last name. Like most of people from Cambodia, they can trace only 3 or 4 nodes towards their root. So, you might pass lie detector test easily. But the toughest criteria to pass is numero quatro. There was a white man who belongs to White Supremacy group. Turn out that after a sample of his blood for this DNA test, the results showed that he was more related to black people than some black people. The reverse can be true for some Khmer racist pigs as well. According to the Khmer racist pigs, you have to pass all the 4 criteria. -- From: Samuel Ung Koeun koeun.sam@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free អ៊ុង ណាមិនដឹងទេ តែកុំស្រឡំជាមួយ អ៊ុង នេះឲ្យសោះ, អ៊ុង នេះគឺ គឿន-សំអ៊ុង ស្មោះ... ធ្លាប់សំឡាប់តែ ហ៊ុយ-សាន់, ឱ-ឌុំ,ប៉ិច-សាលឿន, គង់-ឌីយោនិងតួកាចៗទេនើ...កុំរាលដាល... 2011/8/29 Hong Chi Kong dagger_yeek...@yahoo.com Why bother asking her? You just look at the list of your member you should know right away. Let me give you some clues : 1. If any member of your group has last name Ung(like the con cartoonist), that person is the culprit. 2. Sometime last name alone is not the sure thing, you need to look at their face as well. Even any member has Khmer last name, he/she has to look like (allow me to borrow a word from Ms Gold Treasure) the barbarian. You have to give him/her a pink slip right away if he/she fail the above two criteria. 3. Also, you need to have everyone in your organization passed the lie detector test. 4. Enemies are everywhere to inflict misery for Cambodia. DNA test is a must. From: Dyvathann Sok kret...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free បុផ្ភា អរគុណក្មួយដែលបានបូរបាច់ប៉ប៉ាច់ប់ប៉ោចយ៉ាងពីរោះគួរឲ្យមនុស្សលោកចាប់អារម្មណ៍អំពី សតិអារម្មណ៍របស់ក្មួយក្រៃលែង តែពូក៏ចង់ដឹងដែរថាឈ្មោះណាខ្លះក្នុងក្រុមពូជាមនុស្សផ្តាច់ការ ដែលគ្មានស្មារតីប្រជាធិបតេយ្យប្រហែលក្មួយឯងនោះ តើក្មួយអាចចង្អុលប្រាប់ពូផងបានឬទេ ? អរគុណទុកជាមុនុះ ក 2011/8/29 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr ពូវាន់ថន, ទាក់ទងនឹងការរៀបចំសម្ពន័្ឋចលនាឬការតស៊ូ ខ្ញុំយល់ថា បើពូឬក្រុមពូផ្ជាប់ខ្លួនជាមួយនឹងពួកមនុស្សឬក្រុម មនុស្សថោកទាប គ្មានការស្មោះត្រង់ គ្មានតម្លាភាព គ្មានការទទួលខុសត្រូវក្នុងសកម្មភាពសង្គមឬជីវភាពរស់នៅ ហើយដែលមិនយល់អ្វីជាគោលការណ៍លិទ្ឋិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ គ្មានសីលធម៌ គ្មានភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរ ចូលចិត្តតែប្រើល្បិចថោកទាប ភាពកំរោលទទឹងទិស ងងឹតងងុល ប្រើហឹង្សាឬការកំរាមកំហែងរបៀបថោកទាប ភូតកុហកបោកប្រាស់ ៘ នោះចលនាពួកពូនឹងងប់តៃហោងទៅវិញមុនបានចាប់កំណើតផង ។ គ្មាននរណាគររវល់ទៅក្បែរទេ នាំថោកទាប ខាតពេលវេលាគេអត់ប្រយោជន៍ ព្រោះគេយល់ថា វាគ្មានប្រយោជន៍អ្វីសម្រាប់សង្គមជាតិ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ វាអាចរុញច្រានសង្គមជាតិធ្លាក់ក្នុងមហន្តរាយទៅវិញ។ ពួកមនុស្សដែលនៅបាទដៃទទេនៅឡើយចង់ប្រើអំពើហឹង្សាផ្តាច់ការទៅហើយ តើពួកនេះចង់បង្រៀនឬចង់ទៅ ផ្លាស់ប្តូរជនផ្តាច់ការដែលកំពុងមានអំណាចឬ? ខ្ញុំក៏ចង់ជម្រាបទៅពូថា បដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកជាបដិវត្តិន៍មួយរបស់ចិន ឈ្មោះបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកស ដែលមានកេរ្តណ៍ឈ្មោះមិនល្អនៅលោកខាងលិច មុននឹងបដិវត្តន៍នេះ យកទៅអនុវត្តដោយពួកយួនបុរេកុំម្មុនីស្តវៀតកុង ។ - Original Message - From: krethya1 To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free This depends on my determination, your determination and the khmer's people determination ,especially on how we are organized to make this happen. count on your active participation. k - Original Message - From: Samuel Ung Koeun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:00 PM Subject: Freedom isn't Free A dick-ta-tor Moammar Gadhafi is out now, what about my Xidat Hoon Xen, is he will be next? KSU -- You received this message
Re: Multi-ethnic social integration is a natural force, which has been disolving genuine Khmer ethnic. We are now Cambodian
អាចោរព្រៃដែលចូលមកលួចប្លន់ទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិនិងកាប់សម្លាប់អ្នកស្រុកវាថា វាមកនៅកន្លែងឥត មនុស្សនៅ ដីទំនេរចោល វាខំរកស៊ីបាទដៃទទេខ្លួនវា ព្រោះតែពូជវាឆ្លាតណាស់ ។ គ្រាន់តែសំដីវាក៏ដឹងថា សំដីអាចោរព្រៃរួចទៅហើយ ។ តើប៉ុន្មានសតវត្សមកហើយដែលពួកអាចោរអស់ហ្នឹងមកលួចប្លន់ និងបំផ្លេចបំផ្លាញស្រុក ទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិនិងមរតកខ្មែរឥតឈប់ឈរ? - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:38 AM Subject: Re: Multi-ethnic social integration is a natural force, which has been disolving genuine Khmer ethnic. We are now Cambodian Let me tell you about those Chinese, Vietnamese who came to live in Cambodia many decades ago. You are going to see how it transpired. Then I will use that to enlighten the reason why Cambodians killed so many of their own people in their cruelest way possible. Those Chinese and Vietnamese came to Cambodia with nothing. They inserted themselves in Cambodian very rural area where many Cambodians did not want to live. They started their lives from scratch through sacrifices.Many of them saved money to acquire farmers land where they plant rice and others, Some others became owners of small convenient store etc... They raised their families from nothing all the way be pretty healthy families in their new communities in a few decades. Actually, many poor Cambodian peasants ended up working for those people. Some rented farming land from those Chinese etc You see many of those people with their second or third generation. Those are the people you call foreigner. Actually, they know nothing about China. The only place they know is Cambodia. During Khmer Rouge regime, many peasants were angry at those people because their Angkar told them that they were the ones who sucked the blood from their Cambodian poor peasants. That was why they almost wiped out those Chinese and Vietnamese people. Now, look at those poor peasants. They have awaken up from their ugly past. They now follow those Chinese foot steps. Many of those poor peasants have become owners of small shops as they used to be parts of Chinese or Vietnamese endeavor. Now, please tell us who are real Cambodians. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Freedom isn't Free
- Original Message - From: Hong Chi Kong To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free Is this all you can do? Most the Khmer racist pigs are ignorant just like the pigs. How do you expect to free Cambodia? - with hongchicon skin :-) -- From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com To: camdisc ppenh camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: Fw: Freedom isn't Free http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oz6VA0FksUfeature=related - Forwarded Message - From: Hong Chi Kong dagger_yeek...@yahoo.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2011 11:56 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free I don't know about that. Even you can pass what you just said, you still have to pass the rest of the criteria. Even you look like the barbarian(like Ms Gold Treasure said), eat only the barbarian foods(Prahok and never touch Nuc Mam,roast duck), you are still contaminated by using just that last name. Like most of people from Cambodia, they can trace only 3 or 4 nodes towards their root. So, you might pass lie detector test easily. But the toughest criteria to pass is numero quatro. There was a white man who belongs to White Supremacy group. Turn out that after a sample of his blood for this DNA test, the results showed that he was more related to black people than some black people. The reverse can be true for some Khmer racist pigs as well. According to the Khmer racist pigs, you have to pass all the 4 criteria. -- From: Samuel Ung Koeun koeun.sam@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free អ៊ុង ណាមិនដឹងទេ តែកុំស្រឡំជាមួយ អ៊ុង នេះឲ្យសោះ, អ៊ុង នេះគឺ គឿន-សំអ៊ុង ស្មោះ... ធ្លាប់សំឡាប់តែ ហ៊ុយ-សាន់, ឱ-ឌុំ,ប៉ិច-សាលឿន, គង់-ឌីយោនិងតួកាចៗទេនើ...កុំរាលដាល... 2011/8/29 Hong Chi Kong dagger_yeek...@yahoo.com Why bother asking her? You just look at the list of your member you should know right away. Let me give you some clues : 1. If any member of your group has last name Ung(like the con cartoonist), that person is the culprit. 2. Sometime last name alone is not the sure thing, you need to look at their face as well. Even any member has Khmer last name, he/she has to look like (allow me to borrow a word from Ms Gold Treasure) the barbarian. You have to give him/her a pink slip right away if he/she fail the above two criteria. 3. Also, you need to have everyone in your organization passed the lie detector test. 4. Enemies are everywhere to inflict misery for Cambodia. DNA test is a must. From: Dyvathann Sok kret...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free បុផ្ភា អរគុណក្មួយដែលបានបូរបាច់ប៉ប៉ាច់ប់ប៉ោចយ៉ាងពីរោះគួរឲ្យមនុស្សលោកចាប់អារម្មណ៍អំពី សតិអារម្មណ៍របស់ក្មួយក្រៃលែង តែពូក៏ចង់ដឹងដែរថាឈ្មោះណាខ្លះក្នុងក្រុមពូជាមនុស្សផ្តាច់ការ ដែលគ្មានស្មារតីប្រជាធិបតេយ្យប្រហែលក្មួយឯងនោះ តើក្មួយអាចចង្អុលប្រាប់ពូផងបានឬទេ ? អរគុណទុកជាមុនុះ ក 2011/8/29 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr ពូវាន់ថន, ទាក់ទងនឹងការរៀបចំសម្ពន័្ឋចលនាឬការតស៊ូ ខ្ញុំយល់ថា បើពូឬក្រុមពូផ្ជាប់ខ្លួនជាមួយនឹងពួកមនុស្សឬក្រុម មនុស្សថោកទាប គ្មានការស្មោះត្រង់ គ្មានតម្លាភាព គ្មានការទទួលខុសត្រូវក្នុងសកម្មភាពសង្គមឬជីវភាពរស់នៅ ហើយដែលមិនយល់អ្វីជាគោលការណ៍លិទ្ឋិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ គ្មានសីលធម៌ គ្មានភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរ ចូលចិត្តតែប្រើល្បិចថោកទាប ភាពកំរោលទទឹងទិស ងងឹតងងុល ប្រើហឹង្សាឬការកំរាមកំហែងរបៀបថោកទាប ភូតកុហកបោកប្រាស់ ៘ នោះចលនាពួកពូនឹងងប់តៃហោងទៅវិញមុនបានចាប់កំណើតផង ។ គ្មាននរណាគររវល់ទៅក្បែរទេ នាំថោកទាប ខាតពេលវេលាគេអត់ប្រយោជន៍ ព្រោះគេយល់ថា វាគ្មានប្រយោជន៍អ្វីសម្រាប់សង្គមជាតិ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ វាអាចរុញច្រានសង្គមជាតិធ្លាក់ក្នុងមហន្តរាយទៅវិញ។ ពួកមនុស្សដែលនៅបាទដៃទទេនៅឡើយចង់ប្រើអំពើហឹង្សាផ្តាច់ការទៅហើយ តើពួកនេះចង់បង្រៀនឬចង់ទៅ ផ្លាស់ប្តូរជនផ្តាច់ការដែលកំពុងមានអំណាចឬ? ខ្ញុំក៏ចង់ជម្រាបទៅពូថា បដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកជាបដិវត្តិន៍មួយរបស់ចិន ឈ្មោះបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកស ដែលមានកេរ្តណ៍ឈ្មោះមិនល្អនៅលោកខាងលិច មុននឹងបដិវត្តន៍នេះ យកទៅអនុវត្តដោយពួកយួនបុរេកុំម្មុនីស្តវៀតកុង ។ - Original Message - From: krethya1 To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free This depends on my determination, your determination and the khmer's people determination ,especially on how we are organized to make this happen. count on your active participation. k - Original Message - From: Samuel Ung Koeun
Re: តើពួកអាចិនយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ
So, who are they pouch ah khheatakor? pouch sir honchicon, http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime175.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime178.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime172.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime183.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime177.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/sihanouk/sihanoukcrime179.jpg http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1sihanouk-crime.htm I think if Khmer had enough courage to chop the heads of all these cons murderers and invaders, these cons will had no time nor occasion to plan the killing against Khmer nor to cry here. But Khmer are too humain toward these evils cons that why they are massacred by these cons. That’s the Khmer only crime. - Original Message - From: Hong Chi Kong To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: តើពួកអាចិនយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ The world know who kill 1.7 million innocent. And the pictures of the murderers appear all over the world. So, who are they pouch ah khheatakor? -- From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com To: camdisc ppenh camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Fw: តើពួកអាចិនយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ Khmers tha kom cheur sombot pouch ah kbot, pouch ah chor, pouch ah khheatakor – Don't believe the cheaters, the robbers or criminal soul’s swear …. - Original Message - From: sacrava This one is for Kank-Kak-Roo. Cheers, Ung Bun Heang @.គ្មាននរណាទៅបំបិទសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការនិយាយឬសរសេររបស់ អាម៉ាសៀរ Neak Kampuchea, Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo ស្អីគេនេះទេ តែអ្វីដែលយើងស្អប់ខ្ពើមបំផុតនោះ គឺអាម៉ាសៀរ នេះ វាខំព្យាយាម បំផ្លាញKhmer Identity. R U understand អាគំរក់Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo អ្នក កម្ពុជនសម័យវប្បធម៌យួន. - Forwarded Message - From: sacrava sacravato...@optusnet.com.au អានឹង វា សាកូត សាកួត ទេ !!! - Forwarded Message - From: Hong Chi Kong dagger_yeek...@yahoo.com Subject: Re:សាសន៍ខ្មែរ តើពួកចិនអាយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជ Again, the title and your response show it all. Hun Sen(barbarian) wins one or more elections, your Khmer will become minority for sure. You have to do better than this. Show me some intelligent, not this stupidity if you don't want the Khmer to become minority. -- From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com To: camdisc ppenh camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: Fw: តើពួកចិនអាយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ http://youtu.be/6oz6VA0FksU-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your
Re: What caused so many deaths in Khmer Rouge regime?
លោក វ៉ាំងសង់ ខ្ញុំយល់ថា បើសិនជាខ្មែរខ្ញុំមិនឃើញអ្វីជាចំណេញដល់ខ្មែរដោយខំសរសេរឬធ្វើសកម្មភាពគៀបយកចំណេញអោយយួននោះទេ ។ ឯកសារមានគ្រប់គ្រាន់ http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html ខ្វះតែមនុស្សខ្មែរដែលងើបប្រឆាំងនឹងឧក្រិដ្ឋកម្មយួន ឬទាមទារនិងការពារផលប្រយោជន៍ខ្មែរជាមួយពួកឧក្រិដ្ឋឈ្លានពានទាំងនោះ ។ នរណាក៏ដឹងថា យួនជាអ្នកបង្កើតនិងបានរៀបចំការសម្លាប់រង្គាលលើខ្មែរ ទ្រង់ទ្រាយធំដើម្បីប្លន់យកទឹកដីនិងទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិខ្មែរ ។ ប៉ុល-ពតនិងបក្សពួកពីរបីគ្រាប់ គ្រាន់តែជាកូនជឹងចិនយួនដែលចិនយួនយកទៅលាបឬបិទជាផ្លាកលើ យន្តកម្មប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍មួយដែលបានរៀបចំយ៉ាងល្អិតល្អន់ដោយយួន មានចិនជាអ្នកគាំទ្រនឹងផ្គត់ផ្គន់ ។ វាជាការងាយបំផុតសំរាបយួននិងបក្សពួកក្នុងការ ទម្លាក់កំហុសលើខ្មោចប៉ុល-ពតឬខ្មោចផ្សេងទៀតដើម្បីលាងខ្លួនពួកវាពីឧក្រិដ្ឋកម្មយង់ឃ្នងទាំងនោះ ។ ចំពោះខ្មែរដែលជាជនរងគ្រោះរបស់អំពើឧក្រិដ្ឋរបស់យួន វាជារឿងមួយផ្សេង ។ តុលាការខ្មែរក្រហមដែលគ្រប់គ្រងដោយយួននិងអាយ៉ងវាគ្មាន ចេតនាស្វែងរកការពិតនិងយុត្តិធម៌ជូនខ្មែរស្លូតត្រង់រងគ្រោះរាប់លាននាក់ ដែលបានស្លាប់ដោយនយោបាយឈ្លានពាននិងវៀតទីនិយមរបស់យួនទេ ពួកវាគ្រាន់តែចង់កាត់ទោសពួកក្រុមខ្មែរក្រហមមួយក្តាប់តូចដែលបានងាកបែរ ចេញពីយួននិងមានចេតនាចង់បង្អាក់ដល់ម៉ាស៊ីននយោបាយវៀតទីនិយមនិងប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែររបស់យួនតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ De : Vincent Thach vinceth...@gmail.com Date : Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:00:09 -0700 Date/heure locale : Mar 30 août 2011 06:00 Objet : Re: What caused so many deaths in Khmer Rouge regime? (2) Thanks Lok James. I think: The biggest problem of the Pol Pot regime was being the failure to groom cadres. Pol Pot had believed that it would be possible to make the poorest peasants into good cadres. It didn’t work out that way.‘The biggest problem was the lack of cadres. He can have the most wonderful ideas in the world, but if he doesn’t have cadres to carry them out, it doesn’t go anywhere.’ Regionalism may also have been a weakness in the DK regime. During the 1975 to 79 period, communications were very poor. So the Zone leaders were largely autonomous. This led to a tendency to warlords. Ta Mok, for instance, was a warlord. Pol Pot had given communism such a bad name that no one could ever believe in it again anywhere in the world.‘Il a fait deborder la vase’. - Original Message - From: James Sok To: Camdisc Cc: Diep Ly ; Chheat Srey Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 4:56 PM Subject: What caused so many deaths in Khmer Rouge regime? Plz read attachment in Khmer. Thanks James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Freedom isn't Free
ពូវាន់ថន, ទាក់ទងនឹងការរៀបចំសម្ពន័្ឋចលនាឬការតស៊ូ ខ្ញុំយល់ថា បើពូឬក្រុមពូផ្ជាប់ខ្លួនជាមួយនឹងពួកមនុស្សឬក្រុម មនុស្សថោកទាប គ្មានការស្មោះត្រង់ គ្មានតម្លាភាព គ្មានការទទួលខុសត្រូវក្នុងសកម្មភាពសង្គមឬជីវភាពរស់នៅ ហើយដែលមិនយល់អ្វីជាគោលការណ៍លិទ្ឋិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ គ្មានសីលធម៌ គ្មានភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរ ចូលចិត្តតែប្រើល្បិចថោកទាប ភាពកំរោលទទឹងទិស ងងឹតងងុល ប្រើហឹង្សាឬការកំរាមកំហែងរបៀបថោកទាប ភូតកុហកបោកប្រាស់ ៘ នោះចលនាពួកពូនឹងងប់តៃហោងទៅវិញមុនបានចាប់កំណើតផង ។ គ្មាននរណាគររវល់ទៅក្បែរទេ នាំថោកទាប ខាតពេលវេលាគេអត់ប្រយោជន៍ ព្រោះគេយល់ថា វាគ្មានប្រយោជន៍អ្វីសម្រាប់សង្គមជាតិ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ វាអាចរុញច្រានសង្គមជាតិធ្លាក់ក្នុងមហន្តរាយទៅវិញ។ ពួកមនុស្សដែលនៅបាទដៃទទេនៅឡើយចង់ប្រើអំពើហឹង្សាផ្តាច់ការទៅហើយ តើពួកនេះចង់បង្រៀនឬចង់ទៅ ផ្លាស់ប្តូរជនផ្តាច់ការដែលកំពុងមានអំណាចឬ? ខ្ញុំក៏ចង់ជម្រាបទៅពូថា បដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកជាបដិវត្តិន៍មួយរបស់ចិន ឈ្មោះបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកស ដែលមានកេរ្តណ៍ឈ្មោះមិនល្អនៅលោកខាងលិច មុននឹងបដិវត្តន៍នេះ យកទៅអនុវត្តដោយពួកយួនបុរេកុំម្មុនីស្តវៀតកុង ។ - Original Message - From: krethya1 To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free This depends on my determination, your determination and the khmer's people determination ,especially on how we are organized to make this happen. count on your active participation. k - Original Message - From: Samuel Ung Koeun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:00 PM Subject: Freedom isn't Free A dick-ta-tor Moammar Gadhafi is out now, what about my Xidat Hoon Xen, is he will be next? KSU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Freedom isn't Free
ពូស្គាល់ខ្ញុំខ្លះដែរឬថា មិនស្គាល់សោះក៏បាន ។ ខ្ញុំមិនដែលនិយាយអ្វីប្រាសចាកការពិតគ្មានបានការ នោះទេ ។ វាមិនមែនជាធម្មជាតិឬ វប្បធម៌ខ្ញុំទេ ។ ខ្ញុំគ្រាន់តែរំលឹកពូប៉ុណ្ណោះ ត្រង់ពូចង់ធ្វើមិនដឹងឬ ចង់មួលបង្កាច់ទៅរឿងអ្វីផ្សេង ស្រេចតែពូចុះ ។ មិនមែនជាបញ្ហាខ្ញុំទៀតទេ ។ ពួកមនុស្សអស់នោះ កុំថាឡើយទៅរាប់អានឬធ្ចើកិច្ចការធំដុំជាមួយ ជាពិសេសកិច្ចការជាតិ ទោះកញ្ចប់មុខពួកវាឬគ្រួសារវា ខ្ញុំមិនយកភ្នែកមើលផង នេះមិនមែនខ្ញុំប្រកាន់ឬកឬវណ្ណ:អ្វីទេ ខ្ញុំគ្មានវណ្ណ:ដែលត្រូវប្រកាន់ទេ តែមកពីមនុស្សធុននោះជាជំពូកនុស្សដែលខ្ញុំយល់ថា មិនគួរយកខ្លួនបៀត ។ -- From: Dyvathann Sok kret...@gmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:34 AM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free បុផ្ភា អរគុណក្មួយដែលបានបូរបាច់ប៉ប៉ាច់ប់ប៉ោចយ៉ាងពីរោះគួរឲ្យមនុស្សលោកចាប់អារម្មណ៍អំពី សតិអារម្មណ៍របស់ក្មួយក្រៃលែង តែពូក៏ចង់ដឹងដែរថាឈ្មោះណាខ្លះក្នុងក្រុមពូជាមនុស្សផ្តាច់ការ ដែលគ្មានស្មារតីប្រជាធិបតេយ្យប្រហែលក្មួយឯងនោះ តើក្មួយអាចចង្អុលប្រាប់ពូផងបានឬទេ ? អរគុណទុកជាមុនុះ ក 2011/8/29 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr ពូវាន់ថន, ទាក់ទងនឹងការរៀបចំសម្ពន័្ឋចលនាឬការតស៊ូ ខ្ញុំយល់ថា បើពូឬក្រុមពូផ្ជាប់ខ្លួនជាមួយនឹងពួកមនុស្សឬក្រុម មនុស្សថោកទាប គ្មានការស្មោះត្រង់ គ្មានតម្លាភាព គ្មានការទទួលខុសត្រូវក្នុងសកម្មភាពសង្គមឬជីវភាពរស់នៅ ហើយដែលមិនយល់អ្វីជាគោលការណ៍លិទ្ឋិប្រជាធិបតេយ្យ គ្មានសីលធម៌ គ្មានភាពថ្លៃថ្នូរ ចូលចិត្តតែប្រើល្បិចថោកទាប ភាពកំរោលទទឹងទិស ងងឹតងងុល ប្រើហឹង្សាឬការកំរាមកំហែងរបៀបថោកទាប ភូតកុហកបោកប្រាស់ ៘ នោះចលនាពួកពូនឹងងប់តៃហោងទៅវិញមុនបានចាប់កំណើតផង ។ គ្មាននរណាគររវល់ទៅក្បែរទេ នាំថោកទាប ខាតពេលវេលាគេអត់ប្រយោជន៍ ព្រោះគេយល់ថា វាគ្មានប្រយោជន៍អ្វីសម្រាប់សង្គមជាតិ តែផ្ទុយទៅវិញ វាអាចរុញច្រានសង្គមជាតិធ្លាក់ក្នុងមហន្តរាយទៅវិញ។ ពួកមនុស្សដែលនៅបាទដៃទទេនៅឡើយចង់ប្រើអំពើហឹង្សាផ្តាច់ការទៅហើយ តើពួកនេះចង់បង្រៀនឬចង់ទៅ ផ្លាស់ប្តូរជនផ្តាច់ការដែលកំពុងមានអំណាចឬ? ខ្ញុំក៏ចង់ជម្រាបទៅពូថា បដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកជាបដិវត្តិន៍មួយរបស់ចិន ឈ្មោះបដិវត្តន៍ផ្កាឈូកស ដែលមានកេរ្តណ៍ឈ្មោះមិនល្អនៅលោកខាងលិច មុននឹងបដិវត្តន៍នេះ យកទៅអនុវត្តដោយពួកយួនបុរេកុំម្មុនីស្តវៀតកុង ។ - Original Message - From: krethya1 To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Freedom isn't Free This depends on my determination, your determination and the khmer's people determination ,especially on how we are organized to make this happen. count on your active participation. k - Original Message - From: Samuel Ung Koeun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:00 PM Subject: Freedom isn't Free A dick-ta-tor Moammar Gadhafi is out now, what about my Xidat Hoon Xen, is he will be next? KSU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from
Re: It is time to wake up....
អ៊ំប្រុស, ខ្ញុំយល់ថា អ៊ំប្រុសស្គាល់ច្បាស់ណាស់ពីប្រភពរបស់ លោក រង្សី ។ ខ្ញុំមិនចង់និយាយវែងឆ្ងាយទេ ។ ដូចខ្ញុំបានសរសេរអញ្ចឹង ខ្ញុំអត់បញ្ហាទេ ឆ្កែក៏ដោយ ឆ្មាក៏ដោយអោយតែខ្មែរ អោយតែបំរើផលប្រយោជន៍ខ្មែរ តែបើផ្ទុយពីនេះ ខ្ញុំសុំប្រើសិទ្ឋិខ្ញុំជាខ្មែរ ។ បញ្ហាពួកចិនយួនដែលមករស់នៅស្រុកខ្មែរគឺពួកនេះចូលមករស់ នៅរបៀបអាណាធិបតេយ្យ ជាពួកនិគមជន ជាពួកឈ្លានពាន, ជាឃាតករ ៘ ពួកនេះមិនបានចូលមកតាមច្បាប់ខ្មែរ ទទួលគោររពយកច្បាប់ខ្មែរ ហើយសម្របសម្រួលតាមខ្មែរ តាមរបៀបខ្មែរ តាមវប្បធម៌ខ្មែរទេ តែពួកវាចូលមកត្រួតត្រានិងកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរដើម្បីប្លន់យកទឹកដី ទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិខ្មែរ ។៘ ឯខ្មែរវិញមិនបានចាត់ទុកពួកវា តាមធម្មជាតិវាទេ ហើយត្រូវពួកពួកនិគមជន ពួកឈ្លានពាន, ពួកឃាតករទាំងនោះជិះជាន់ ត្រួតត្រា មាក់ងាយ ធ្វើបាប កាប់សម្លាប់ឥតត្រាប្រណី ។ ពួកជនទាំងនោះ មិនចាត់ទុកការការពារជាតិខ្មែរ ការការពារផលប្រយោជន៍ខ្មែរជាសរ:សំខាន់ ឬជាការការពារផលប្រយោជន៍និង ជីវិតពួកវាផងដែរទេ ព្រោះពួកវាយល់ថា ខ្មែរមិនមែនជាជាតិសាសន៍ពួកវា សម្បត្តិខ្មែរមិនមែនជាសម្បត្តិដូនតាវាឬបុព្វបុរសវា ពួកវាបែរជាទៅដឹកនាំឬសម្រួល អោយជនជាតិដើមរបស់វាមកធ្វើនយោបាយកាប់សម្លាប់បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ ដើម្បីខ្មែរប្លន់យកទឹកដីទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិខ្មែរទៅវិញព្រោះពួកវាស្អប់ខ្ពើមខ្មែរតាំងពី ពរ៌សម្បុរឡើងទៅរហូតដល់ចំណីអាហារខ្មែរ ។ ពួកអស់នេះវាយល់ថា ទោះប្រទេសខ្មែរកាន់កាប់ ដោយយួនក្តី ដោយចិនក្តី វាគ្មានបញ្ហាចំពោះវាទេ ព្រោះពួកវាជាចិនឬយួនស្រាប់ មានតែខ្មែរទេ ដែលត្រូវរងទុកវេទនា ព្រោះពួកវាយល់ថា ពួកវាបញ្ញា ពួកវាវៃឆ្លាត ដៃពួកវាដាំស្អីក៏ដុះ ធ្វើស្អីក៏បាន ឯខ្មែរវិញស្បែកខ្មៅអាក្រក់ហើយខ្ចិលច្រអូស ។ ឯលទ្ឋផលយើងឃើញស្រាប់រាប់សតវត្យមកហើយ ។ បញ្ហាទាំងនេះមកពីពួកនិគមជន ពួកឈ្លានពាន, ពួកឃាតករទាំងនោះមិនយល់ពីខ្មែរ ពីវប្បធម៌ខ្មែរ ហើយក៏មិនខ្វល់គិតពីឬសគល ហេតុផលនិងច្រវាក់នៃផលវិបាកទាំងឡាយក្នុងសង្គម ពួកនេះអាចគិតឬអាចយល់តែពីអ្វីសើៗរាក់ៗតាមគំនិតចោលម្សៀតនិងឆ្កួតរវើរវាយរបស់ពួកវា ។ ពួកវាមិនយល់ថា បើយួនកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរ ពួកយួនទាំងនោះក៏មិនទុកជីវិតពួកវាដែរ ព្រោះយួនវាលែងចាត់ទុកពួកនោះជាយួន ជាចិនទៀតហើយ លើកលែងតែពួកធ្វើការអោយ ចិនយួនទាំងនោះ ។ នៅពេលថ្មីៗនេះ លោកស្រី ធារីសេង ដែលចេះភាសាខ្មែរមិនត្រូវជ្រុងផង បានដៀលត្មះភាសារខ្មែរថា ជាភាសារព្រៃឬគ្រួតគ្រៀត ជាភាសារងាប់តៃហោង ។ ឯការស្វែងរកការពិតពីអំពើឧក្រិដ្ឋលើខ្មែរ លើឳពុកម្តាយរបស់លោកស្រី លោកស្រីរូបនេះ បានត្រឹមតែ ធ្វើតាមឬថាតាមអ្វីដែលពួកឃាតករចង់បានតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ វាជាសោដនាកម្មមួយគួរអោយសង្វេកខ្លាំងណាស់ ។ - Original Message - From: Nokoreach Nokoreach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: Re: It is time to wake up J' attends avec impatience la nouvelle de M.Sok, au sujet de l' origine de M. Sam Rainsy. Si vous aviez assez de temps disponible,auriez vous pu nous indiquer l' origine exact de M. Sam Rainsy : M. Sam Rainsy est-il Khmer d' origine ? M. Sam Rainsy est-il metis entre Khmer et Yuon ? M. Sam Rainsy est-il metis entre Khmer et Chen ? M. Sam Rainsy est-il metis entre Chen et Yuon ? Sincerement votre, 2011/8/27 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr អ៊ំប្រុសមិនចាំបាច់ឆ្ងល់ទេ ចិនក៏ដូចយួនខំព្យាយាមផ្សព្វផ្សាយអកុសលបោកប្រាស់ បំភ្លៃបំភាន់ប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តមិនឈប់ឈរ ថាពួកវាជាអ្នកសាងអង្គរ សាងនេះសាងនោះរបស់ខ្មែរតាមរយ:រឿងផ្រេង, តាមរយ:ការផ្សព្វផ្សាយអកុសលបោកប្រាស់ផ្សេងៗ ៘ ចិនយួនអស់នោះគិតថា ខ្មែរភ្លើព្រោះខ្មែរចេះតែខំរក ខំកសាង ឯពួកវាចាំតែលួចប្លន់ បំផ្លេចបំផ្លាញ និងកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរឬ មរតកនិងសមិតិផលដែលខ្មែរខំរកខំកសាង ។ មានយួនខ្លះនៅស្រុកខ្មែរ វាឃើញខ្មែរខំសងផ្ទះ រៀបចំលំនៅដ្ឋានអោយបានសុខសាន្តសមរម្យ វាចំអកអោយថា ពួកឯងខំធ្វើទៅ ទុកអោយពួកអញនិងកូនចៅអញនៅ ។ នេះហើយជាវប្បធម៌យួន ឬការឆ្លាតរបស់ចិនយួន ។ ខ្មែរភ្លើទើបខ្មែរអមត:អាចសាងអង្គរ អាចសាងអរិយធម៌ដ៏ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ឧត្តុងឧតម្ភដែលសកលលោកគោរពនិង កោតសរសើរទុកសម្រាប់អោយចិននិងយួនបំផ្លេចបំផ្លាញឥតឈប់ឈររាប់សតវត្សនៅមិនអស់មិនរលាយ ។ ស្នាដៃរបស់ចិនយួន ខ្មែរយើងជាសាក្សី បានឃើញបានយល់ រស់នៅឆ្លងកាត់ផ្ទាល់ ខ្មែរយើងស្គាល់ជាអ្វីច្បាស់ ណាស់ក្នុងសមយ័ជៃជេដ្ឋា២ សមយ័អង្គមីញ អង្គឌួង រហូតសមយ័បនខ្មែរក្រហមប៉ុល-ពតឬពួកស៊ីភីភីក្តី មិនអាចអោយពួកអាចោរនេះមកបំភ្លៃបោកប្រាស់បានទេ ។ ពួកចាមនិងខ្មែរក្រោមក៏ធ្លាប់ស្គាល់ក្រយៅយួន ស្គាល់ចិត្តគំនិតជាំខ្មៅពេញដោយភាពយង់ឃ្នងនិងការនិន្ទាឈ្ននីសបៀតបៀនជីវិតជនដ៏ទៃរបស់យួនច្បាស់លាស់ណាស់ ។ តើពួកអាចិនយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ ឬក៏ពួកវានេះមិនហ៊ានតតាំងហ្នឹងខ្មែរដោយសមពលនិងបញ្ញ:ជាជាងប្រើល្បិចថោកទាបនិងព្រៃផ្សៃរបៀបចោរព្រៃប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរហើយតាមជេរខាកស្តោះលើសាកសព្វខ្មែរទាំងនោះ? ពួកអាចោរព្រៃអស់ហ្នឹង មិនចាំបាច់តែខ្មែរទេ សូម្បីចិនឬយួនដែលជាប់ឈាមឈរជាខ្មែរ ឬគ្រាន់តែប្រកាន់ខ្លួនជាខ្មែរ ស្រលាញ់ការពារខ្មែរ ស្រលាញ់ការពារវប្បធម៌ខ្មែរ ក៏ពួកអាចិនយួនទាំងនោះស្អប់និងចង់បម្លាប់បំបាត់ជីវិតអោយរលត់រលាយអស់ដែរ វាទុកតែពួកអាមោក ពួកអាអគតិល្ងិតល្ងង់ភ្លីភ្លើ ពួកអាដៃដល់ស្រួលវាប្រើនិងចេញខោកចូលខោកតាមចិត្តវា ។ តែពួកអាចិនយួនអស់នោះ វាមិនហ៊ានជាមួយខ្មែរទេ ។ បើវាខ្លាំងវាហ៊ានតតាំងជាមួយខ្មែរដោយ សមពលឬបញ្ញ:ឬទេ? ឬគ្រាន់តែចេះប្រើរបៀបថោកទាបសាហាវយង់ឃ្នងលួចឆ្មកប្រលយ័កាប់សម្លាប់បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរនិងពួកខ្មែរនិយម? ចំពោះខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ឆ្កែក៏ដោយឆ្មាក៏ដោយអោយតែខ្មែរ ខុសពីនោះជាបញ្ហាហើយ... ។ - Original Message - From: Nokoreach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: srpcabi...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: Re: It is time to wake up
Re: What A Misery For Cambodia!!
RE: What A Misery For Cambodia!!ជំរាបសួរលោកពូ, អរគុណលោកពូ ខ្ញុំបានដឹងពីអាយួនម្នាក់ហ្នឹងតាមរយ:មិត្រភក្តីខ្លះៗដែរ មានមិត្រភក្តីធ្លាប់ទៅសរសេរលើ Guestbook វាដែរ តែវាមិនដែលទុកសំនេរណាដែលប្រឆាំងឬបរិហារគំនិនិងអំពើអាក្រក់ណាមួយរបស់វា ឬរបស់យួនទេ វាលប់ចោលភ្លាមៗ វាក្រឡាញឹក ស្អិតដូចសត្ចឈ្លើងស្វិតស្វាញខ្លាំងណាស់ គ្មានអោយអ្វីចេញរួចពីសំណាញវាទេ តែវាវិញមកជេរខ្មែរ មកសំអុយនៅទីនេះមាសេរី ខុសពីវា ខ្មែរយើងនៅតែបណ្តោយវាអោយធ្វើអ្វីតាមចិត្ត ។ នេះក៏បញ្ជាក់ពីការខុសគ្នារវាងធម្មជាតិយួននិងធម្មជាតិខ្មែរ ។ សូមផ្ញើរក្តីរលឹកទៅអ្នកមីងផង J - Original Message - From: Krakmo Kaing To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: RE: What A Misery For Cambodia!! ជំរាបសួរ នាង, អានឹង វាបានប្រាប់ខ្ញុំម្តងមកហើយ ថាវានឹងជាកូនកាត់ចិននិងយួន ។ ដូច្នេះវាគ្មានអ្វីជាប់និស្ស័យ(ខ្ញុំមិនថាជាប់សាច់ឈាមអ្វីទេ)និងខ្មែរអ្វីឡើយ ។ វានិយាយហាក់បីដូចជាដឹងសម្បើមណាស់ ក្នុងរឿងខ្មែរ ។ ដោយសេចក្តីគោរព -Message d'origine- De : camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camdisc@googlegroups.com] De la part de Bopha Angkor Envoyé : vendredi 26 août 2011 21:11 À : camdisc@googlegroups.com Objet : Re: What A Misery For Cambodia!! Who care what the crony ass has to say...? Take your specimen ass and stupidity out of here. - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: What A Misery For Cambodia!! Corrections: 1) communust in the 1st sentence should have been: communist, 2) high-school teacher should have been: elementary-school teacher. D'ohh!! On Aug 26, 12:44 pm, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Re:http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/9adbf8268... Sihanouk thought the comminust bloc would win the Vietnam war. So he thought in order to secure the continuation of his monarchy, he must abandon the capitalist bloc and befriend the communist bloc. And that's what he did. Not only just being a friend, but he also took side in the Vietnam war, in favor of the communists. And worse still, he practically participated in the war on the side of the communists by allowing the North Vietnamse and Vietcongs (NVVCs) to use Cambodian territory in their war efforts. I know this fact first-hand, ok ok not exactly first-hand, but almost: both of my older brothers-in- laws, husbands of my older sisters, one being an army officer and the other a high-school teacher, lived and worked in Rattanakiri from 1967 to 1970; my sisters lived there each with their husbands; when back in Phnom Penh, all 4 of them said they had seen the Vietcongs transporting their war ammunitions and supplies in Cambodian territory, and my army-officer brother-in-law said there had been an order from above to not interfere with the movements of the Vietcongs or any of their activities whatsoever. That was the 1st of the 2 worst and most silly mistakes of Sihanouk's. The Americans had to invade Cambodia in order to try to destroy the NVVCs sheltered there. If Sihanouk was really neutral, then the war would never have spread to Cambodia, because then the Americans wouldn't invade Cambodia in order to try to destroy the NVVCs who would have sought refuge there. Now let him take side politically with the communist bloc; even so, if he hadn't allowed the NVVCs to utilize Cambodian territory in their war strategies, then the war would never have escalated to Cambodia. After all, Sihanouk was no friend of communism, the doctrine. Why?? Well Well because communism of course means no monarchy. He was able to keep the Cambodian communists known as the Khmer Rouge (Red Khmers) almost at the non-existence level. The Khmer Rouge, few as they were, existed only in border areas and in the remote jungles, and sparsely so. My brothers-in-laws also said the Khmer Rouge in Rattanakiri told the Phnoorngs there that the Sihanouk regime stole their (the Phnoorngs') land and tried to incite them to fight against the invaders. Sihanouk had that ability because he was exteremely popular. The Cambodian people, well well at least 99.99% of them, liked him and loved him and followed him in every circumstance, and were always willing and ready to sacrifice their lives for him. He even eliminated all who were just suspected of being communists, most of whom were high-school teachers. He believed he was smart by eliminating the communists inside and making friend with the communists outside. Ok Ok that can be considered as smartness. However the problem was, again, his allowing the NVVCs to employ Cambodian territory in their war plans, which was the cause of the escalation of the Vietnam war to Cambodia. He didn't have
Re: It is time to wake up....
អ៊ំប្រុសមិនចាំបាច់ឆ្ងល់ទេ ចិនក៏ដូចយួនខំព្យាយាមផ្សព្វផ្សាយអកុសលបោកប្រាស់ បំភ្លៃបំភាន់ប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តមិនឈប់ឈរ ថាពួកវាជាអ្នកសាងអង្គរ សាងនេះសាងនោះរបស់ខ្មែរតាមរយ:រឿងផ្រេង, តាមរយ:ការផ្សព្វផ្សាយអកុសលបោកប្រាស់ផ្សេងៗ ៘ ចិនយួនអស់នោះគិតថា ខ្មែរភ្លើព្រោះខ្មែរចេះតែខំរក ខំកសាង ឯពួកវាចាំតែលួចប្លន់ បំផ្លេចបំផ្លាញ និងកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរឬ មរតកនិងសមិតិផលដែលខ្មែរខំរកខំកសាង ។ មានយួនខ្លះនៅស្រុកខ្មែរ វាឃើញខ្មែរខំសងផ្ទះ រៀបចំលំនៅដ្ឋានអោយបានសុខសាន្តសមរម្យ វាចំអកអោយថា ពួកឯងខំធ្វើទៅ ទុកអោយពួកអញនិងកូនចៅអញនៅ ។ នេះហើយជាវប្បធម៌យួន ឬការឆ្លាតរបស់ចិនយួន ។ ខ្មែរភ្លើទើបខ្មែរអមត:អាចសាងអង្គរ អាចសាងអរិយធម៌ដ៏ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ឧត្តុងឧតម្ភដែលសកលលោកគោរពនិង កោតសរសើរទុកសម្រាប់អោយចិននិងយួនបំផ្លេចបំផ្លាញឥតឈប់ឈររាប់សតវត្សនៅមិនអស់មិនរលាយ ។ ស្នាដៃរបស់ចិនយួន ខ្មែរយើងជាសាក្សី បានឃើញបានយល់ រស់នៅឆ្លងកាត់ផ្ទាល់ ខ្មែរយើងស្គាល់ជាអ្វីច្បាស់ ណាស់ក្នុងសមយ័ជៃជេដ្ឋា២ សមយ័អង្គមីញ អង្គឌួង រហូតសមយ័បនខ្មែរក្រហមប៉ុល-ពតឬពួកស៊ីភីភីក្តី មិនអាចអោយពួកអាចោរនេះមកបំភ្លៃបោកប្រាស់បានទេ ។ ពួកចាមនិងខ្មែរក្រោមក៏ធ្លាប់ស្គាល់ក្រយៅយួន ស្គាល់ចិត្តគំនិតជាំខ្មៅពេញដោយភាពយង់ឃ្នងនិងការនិន្ទាឈ្ននីសបៀតបៀនជីវិតជនដ៏ទៃរបស់យួនច្បាស់លាស់ណាស់ ។ តើពួកអាចិនយួនយល់ថា ខ្មែរភ្លើបានជាពួកវាខំប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរ ឬក៏ពួកវានេះមិនហ៊ានតតាំងហ្នឹងខ្មែរដោយសមពលនិងបញ្ញ:ជាជាងប្រើល្បិចថោកទាបនិងព្រៃផ្សៃរបៀបចោរព្រៃប្រលយ័បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរហើយតាមជេរខាកស្តោះលើសាកសព្វខ្មែរទាំងនោះ? ពួកអាចោរព្រៃអស់ហ្នឹង មិនចាំបាច់តែខ្មែរទេ សូម្បីចិនឬយួនដែលជាប់ឈាមឈរជាខ្មែរ ឬគ្រាន់តែប្រកាន់ខ្លួនជាខ្មែរ ស្រលាញ់ការពារខ្មែរ ស្រលាញ់ការពារវប្បធម៌ខ្មែរ ក៏ពួកអាចិនយួនទាំងនោះស្អប់និងចង់បម្លាប់បំបាត់ជីវិតអោយរលត់រលាយអស់ដែរ វាទុកតែពួកអាមោក ពួកអាអគតិល្ងិតល្ងង់ភ្លីភ្លើ ពួកអាដៃដល់ស្រួលវាប្រើនិងចេញខោកចូលខោកតាមចិត្តវា ។ តែពួកអាចិនយួនអស់នោះ វាមិនហ៊ានជាមួយខ្មែរទេ ។ បើវាខ្លាំងវាហ៊ានតតាំងជាមួយខ្មែរដោយ សមពលឬបញ្ញ:ឬទេ? ឬគ្រាន់តែចេះប្រើរបៀបថោកទាបសាហាវយង់ឃ្នងលួចឆ្មកប្រលយ័កាប់សម្លាប់បំបាត់ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរនិងពួកខ្មែរនិយម? ចំពោះខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ឆ្កែក៏ដោយឆ្មាក៏ដោយអោយតែខ្មែរ ខុសពីនោះជាបញ្ហាហើយ... ។ - Original Message - From: Nokoreach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: srpcabi...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:40 PM Subject: Re: It is time to wake up Cher M. SOK ! En plus de ma question concernant votre It is time to wake up je vous demande une autre question : quelle est l'origine natale de M. SAM RAINSY ? Est-il Khmoth-Sè ? Est-il métis entre Khmer et Yuon ? Est-il métis entre Khmer et Chen ? Sincèrement votre, - Original Message - From: Nokoreach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:35 AM Subject: Re: It is time to wake up Please see pdf file in Khmer attached - Original Message - From: James Sok To: Camdisc Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: It is time to wake up Plz read attachment in Khmer. Thanks James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: What A Misery For Cambodia!!
Who care what the crony ass has to say...? Take your specimen ass and stupidity out of here. - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: What A Misery For Cambodia!! Corrections: 1) communust in the 1st sentence should have been: communist, 2) high-school teacher should have been: elementary-school teacher. D'ohh!! On Aug 26, 12:44 pm, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Re:http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc/browse_thread/thread/9adbf8268... Sihanouk thought the comminust bloc would win the Vietnam war. So he thought in order to secure the continuation of his monarchy, he must abandon the capitalist bloc and befriend the communist bloc. And that's what he did. Not only just being a friend, but he also took side in the Vietnam war, in favor of the communists. And worse still, he practically participated in the war on the side of the communists by allowing the North Vietnamse and Vietcongs (NVVCs) to use Cambodian territory in their war efforts. I know this fact first-hand, ok ok not exactly first-hand, but almost: both of my older brothers-in- laws, husbands of my older sisters, one being an army officer and the other a high-school teacher, lived and worked in Rattanakiri from 1967 to 1970; my sisters lived there each with their husbands; when back in Phnom Penh, all 4 of them said they had seen the Vietcongs transporting their war ammunitions and supplies in Cambodian territory, and my army-officer brother-in-law said there had been an order from above to not interfere with the movements of the Vietcongs or any of their activities whatsoever. That was the 1st of the 2 worst and most silly mistakes of Sihanouk's. The Americans had to invade Cambodia in order to try to destroy the NVVCs sheltered there. If Sihanouk was really neutral, then the war would never have spread to Cambodia, because then the Americans wouldn't invade Cambodia in order to try to destroy the NVVCs who would have sought refuge there. Now let him take side politically with the communist bloc; even so, if he hadn't allowed the NVVCs to utilize Cambodian territory in their war strategies, then the war would never have escalated to Cambodia. After all, Sihanouk was no friend of communism, the doctrine. Why?? Well Well because communism of course means no monarchy. He was able to keep the Cambodian communists known as the Khmer Rouge (Red Khmers) almost at the non-existence level. The Khmer Rouge, few as they were, existed only in border areas and in the remote jungles, and sparsely so. My brothers-in-laws also said the Khmer Rouge in Rattanakiri told the Phnoorngs there that the Sihanouk regime stole their (the Phnoorngs') land and tried to incite them to fight against the invaders. Sihanouk had that ability because he was exteremely popular. The Cambodian people, well well at least 99.99% of them, liked him and loved him and followed him in every circumstance, and were always willing and ready to sacrifice their lives for him. He even eliminated all who were just suspected of being communists, most of whom were high-school teachers. He believed he was smart by eliminating the communists inside and making friend with the communists outside. Ok Ok that can be considered as smartness. However the problem was, again, his allowing the NVVCs to employ Cambodian territory in their war plans, which was the cause of the escalation of the Vietnam war to Cambodia. He didn't have to allow such a thing, since his high popularity already kept the Khmer Rouge at bay and thus he didn't have to court the communist bloc. To flatter the communists further, he even created the sangkum reas niyum, obtained by just adding the word reas to sangkum niyum, which means socialist. Now the 2nd of the 2 worst and most silly mistakes of Sihanouk's. It was his alliance with the Khmer Rouge to fight against the Lon Nol regime. Virtually 95% of the Cambodian people believed that it was the war between Lon Nol and him, not between Lon Nol and the Khmer Rouge. Of course virtually 95% of the Cambodian people wanted him back. He and his surviving popularity were the main reason why the Khmer Rouge won the un-civilized civil war. Thus he was responsible for making it possible for the genocide to occur. All Right. Now speaking about why he was so popular. There were 2 reasons. Reason #1 was that he was a king (people still considered him as king during his tenure as chief of state and his mother being the legally actual monarch). The Cambodian people back then, most of them anyway, worshipped kings as gods, and declared they couldn't live in a country without a king. Reason #2, which was more important, was that he was eloquent, ma-nhek ma-nhok, and knew how to flatter people by lying to them that Cambodia was a developed country, d'ohh!! OK. Now let's gather here the recent leaders
Re: Fw: What Cambodian have been suppressed is due to Cambodian Kingship
After Khmer word, Khmer culture, Khmer this and that now you have problem with Khmer food @ kampouch ass ? After your @ kampouch ass Khmer are dump and stupid because they have dark skin eat dead meat. Sound like your @ kampouch ass's trying to teach Khmer to be savage like your kampouch ass by eating dogs and eat human meat like your kampouch ass taught to Khmer Vietminh/ Khmer rouge. .. You need more dog meat or human liver ass to be more or less animalistic @ kamouch? Honestly, your pretending dump smart ass is beyond human logic - Original Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: What Cambodian have been suppressed is due to Cambodian Kingship Vonglokruta Khema. Idiot man! You eat dead meat and spoiled salted fish every day, that is why you get so angry too fast before you understand what you have seen. I see all your people out there are the same as you do. You need to change your daily food for being able to be a normal person and smart. If they are not, they will turn to youn 100%. Don't blame no one other than your own ancesters and your monks who have trained you to do so. On Aug 18, 8:59 am, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: @.គ្មាននរណាទៅបំបិទសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការនិយាយឬសរសេររបស់អស់អាម៉ាសៀរ ... read more » អាNeak Kampuchea, Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo... ស្អីគេនោះទេ @.តែអ្វីដែលយើងស្អប់ខ្ពើមបំផុតនោះ គឺអាម៉ាសៀរ អស់នោះ អស់វាខំព្យាយាម បំផ្លាញKhmer Identity. R U understand គឺ @. អាគំរក់ Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo អ្នក កម្ពុជន...សម័យវប្បធម៌យួន. - Forwarded Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: What Cambodian have been suppressed is due to Cambodian Kingship You are babarian Khmer Krom. On Aug 18, 12:19 am, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: @.គ្មាននរណាទៅបំបិទសិទ្ធសេរីភាពក្នុងការនិយាយឬសរសេររបស់អស់អាម៉ាសៀរ ... read more » អាNeak Kampuchea, Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo... ស្អីគេនោះទេ @.តែអ្វីដែលយើងស្អប់ខ្ពើមបំផុតនោះ គឺអាម៉ាសៀរ អស់នោះ អស់វាខំព្យាយាម បំផ្លាញKhmer Identity. R U understand គឺ @. អាគំរក់ Xiclo Xoriya, Ong Thug Dooo,Kangarooo អ្នក កម្ពុជន...សម័យវប្បធម៌យួន. - Forwarded Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.orgcamdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 9:11 AM Subject: What Cambodian have been suppressed is due to Cambodian Kingship Free expression permits us to write and say what we have seen in Cambodia today, as corruption has been due to multiple royal decrees for life time immunity title, which could not be touched by any Cambodian law enforcement officers. “If you touch them, you get in trouble, or simple get fired”. Royal decrees for life time immunity have been stipulating impunity and all kid of corruptions with multiple abuses on Phnom Penh streets, work places, sexual harassments, and sexual violence as well, in Cambodia today. We did hear cars collision on Phnom Penh’s streets, and certain drunken drivers didn’t care right or wrong, but pulled gun with assault words to other sites in presence of police officers. But those police agents let them quickly go free without trying to find any evidence of road accidents, because they couldn’t touch them as they know they have “life time royal immunity”. If you touch them, you get in trouble with your job downgrade or simply get fired, if those assailants are Super-sub-king or Minor-sub king’s sons or daughters. We also hear young and beautiful girl singer actors have been gun down because they refused to obey order for meeting someone. Some were died, some are completely disable and we didn’t hear police could catch one of them for putting in jail until today. Why? The answer is that police and investigators couldn’t handle over “royal life time immunity decree”. There are also a great number of hidden “royal life times immunity” abuses on seizing building construction lands, plantation farms or farm lands, on Judicial, police, military, and administrative system all over Cambodia as this “king of king system” is still existed and hanging overhead of Cambodia’s government and its people. Because they believe they could do anything in accordance of 80% Cambodian are still superstitious under a perplexity Buddhism, or in other words, under a confused Buddhar-hinduism/hybrid. How Cambodian Democracy could freely go through, as it’s should be, if this plague could not be healed? This is what we have found. We can uncover that some unpleasant information are longtime hidden behind our thought. It ‘s the strategy of King Father Norodom Sihanouk, after his several political maneuvering
Re: Preah Vihear is Hindou Temple,
Nope, even with animals, I use a quite better language but not with certain. Understand it or not, I’m careless - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Preah Vihear is Hindou Temple, On Aug 15, 2:13 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Didn’t @ kampouch over claimed Khmer are ugly and dump because they have dark skin so and @ kampouch ass (new face race) race is so beautiful and smart ass because they have white ass then why this dump stupid question that a kid at primary school can yet answer @ kampouch ass? Have you ever considered rereading your own writing and ask yourself whether your writing is a goog example of a good thing? You and your writing may try to persuade ones to understand something. Yet, the negativity of it shows the sadness of what you are presenting. I hope you understand. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Preah Vihear is Hindou Temple,
Didn’t @ kampouch over claimed Khmer are ugly and dump because they have dark skin so and @ kampouch ass (new face race) race is so beautiful and smart ass because they have white ass then why this dump stupid question that a kid at primary school can yet answer @ kampouch ass? - Original Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Preah Vihear is Hindou Temple, If they are so good, why they had been changing like this, in the course of century? Tell me why? If gold is so good nobody is going to change it to iron? They could build thousand stone temples with their scriptures why they had changed to nothing like this? And all of self-promclaimed Khmer can not read them. I think you all are not real Khmer as you are sel-proclaimed, aren't you? I am telling you that this is the so called social evolution. And all people of Cambodia are Cambodian. On Aug 13, 2:19 pm, Kenneth So kenneth.aryasa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Lok Neak Kampuchea, Khmer scripts had gone through nine changes over the course of our history. The original scripts are based on the Indian Pallava scripts. By the time Preah Vihear was built, our Khmer scripts had gone through the fourth changes. As you can see below, the scripts from 970 to 1066 would be inscribed in the temple of Preah Vihear (from Yasovarman to Suryavarman I). The scripts called Type VI (classification Nor Korr) in 1066 are not too much different from the Khmer scripts we are using today. If you want to understand more about the ancient Khmer scripts I suggest that you read the book by the late Professor Long Seam called Dictionnaire du Khmer Ancient (វចនានុក្រមខ្មែរបុរាណ) and another book by Professor Sotheara Vong calledសិលាចារឹកនៃប្រទេសកម្ពុជាសម័យមុនអង្គរ. Take Care, Kenneth On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.comwrote: OK! if Preah Vehear temple were built by Khmer as you have say, tell me does any Khner man can read the sripture on its wall? If no one Khmer can do it, why? Neak-Kampuchea. On Aug 13, 12:11 am, Samuel Ung Koeun koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that you love Cambodia. Your intention is to make Cambodia better. We don't have any doubt of that. However, what you are doing is just the opposite because you allow hate to dictate your core belief. ចុះអ្នកអន្ទិតគោលោតឯងដែលស្រឡាញ់អាណាខ្លះតាំងពីដំបូងទីមក? On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:56 AM, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: To be honest with you, I really don't know who you are and what you believe in when it comes to Cambodia. I am going to point out something that you cannot dispute. Please reread your writing to see what you see. Here is what I am seeing. You are trying to disgrace Cambodian treasure because you dislike something. You are disgracing your own people because you don't like them. Please tell me if these two factors are not true. What you are doing is nothing more than dividing Cambodia. As many more people are doing that, Cambodia would be weaker and weaker as we have seen. Cambodian factions have been fighting each other for their own individual rightiousness for many decades. They have been killing their own people along the way. What are they doing to their country? Each factions claim that thhey are patriots to their country, Cambodia. Unfrotunately, their acts show very different. That is exactly what you are doing here. Please don't be offended. Just explain it to me if I am wrong. Rememeber! Those treasures are THINGS belong to Cambodia. Those things cannot do any harm to anyone. Then Hun Sen and CPP are Cambodians, not Vietnamese. If you disagree with them, don't accuse them of this and that. If you know something, just say it. I am pretty sure many others would come to support you if they are factual. I'm pretty sure that you love Cambodia. Your intention is to make Cambodia better. We don't have any doubt of that. However, what you are doing is just the opposite because you allow hate to dictate your core belief. On Aug 10, 11:18 pm, Koeun koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: More than that, Hun Xen worships Ong Ho's dead corpse in Hanoi Temple. On Aug 2, 11:48 am, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: You even spell the name of the Hindu god Shiva incorrectly. That tells a lot about you. It's beyond belief thay you don't even know that Hinduism has a monkey and an elephant as gods. Talking about mouse, yeah yeah I forgot to mention in that post of mine, that the Hindus also worship mouse, or more accurately, mice, d'ohh!! Don't try to discuss about a topic of which you have little or no knowledge. Now just answer my
Re: Khmer culture heritage Foundation itself has been creating Khmer extremism, corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen Sen’s birth date.
Lok, Lok Srei Keo, Yuon vc and their partners brainwashed Khmer rouge not to call yuons « yuons », it’s a bad word, it is racist word; call yuons, comrades Vietnamese. And all the Khmer rouge including sihanouk, hun sen ect …and those who believed in yuon teaching and propagandas executed yuon wills while go after those who dare to use this word as if they are criminals, specially among bunch of low skin westerners proyuons. Now yuons begin to propaganda that Khmer is also a bad word, an extremist or racist word - The yuons crimes, yuon atrocity and yuon human rights violation against other ethnic that are not yuons will never end if those people will not put an end to those yuon bloody crimes, yuon animosity and yuon violation of human rights. - Original Message - From: Chamnap Keo To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Khmer culture heritage Foundation itself has been creating Khmer extremism, corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen Sen’s birth date. Neak Kampuchea works really hard to push for this new word. If as you say, Cambodia has thousands of years of history, don't you think it's culture and people know who they are? What Neak Kampuchea does not tell us is that his campaign to put this new word to forefront is not a result of Cambodians mis-classifying themselves and confusion about their Khmer identity, but only that Khmer and the demographic of today's Cambodia is changing to accompanied for the masses of millions of legal and illegal Youns who come to live in Cambodia. We know that, Youn have live en mass with in Cambodia and spread like wildfire, however, we are not confused about this self-proclaim Khmer identity. It has been this way for over a thousand years, and the fact that it needs to be change now does not reflect a mistake, but as I say, rather an unfortunate change and trend in the reality of Vietnamese and Sino dominated Khmer land, or as we always say in Khmer, Srok Khmer. What is wrong with using Khmer as an all encompassing group identity? What is wrong with using this word as we have always use for over a millennium now? This word Khmer on contrary, does not exclude people out of Cambodia, it includes and builds solidarity in Srok Khmer, even the Sino Khmers had come to refer to themselves as we Khmers. This is a term, under an umbrella, of a over 2 thousand years of history of unity, and it strengthens the continuation of the cultures of our forefathers who have bestowed it onto us, in this land. Those who come to this land, and accept the ancestors contributions and show gratitude to allegiance to this nation are part of the Khmer identity. Those who wish to exclude themselves, and self-identify otherwise for other political purpose, no matter under what guise, what propanda, what message, or persuasion, is neither Cambodian nor Khmer - but betrayals who have infiltrated the nation and wishes to destroy it from the inside out. Thailand is neither a country of the Tais nor is the TAI a homogenous ethnic identity, yet Thai comes to be the core identifying feature of that country and unity for many people who are not even Tai. And Thai identity is brief compared to the Khmer identity, so it should be that the Khmer identity should wrap an even stronger solidarity and unity among all people of Cambodia - because this is the word that connects this land to its ancient heritage and the word that will continuate to prerseve and perpetuation the survival of that heritage. Those who enter wishing to destroy this heritage can be can neither Cambodia, Chun Kampuchea or Khmer and should forever be outcast as foreigners bent on the destruction and domination of Khmer nation. Period. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: Khmer culture heritage Foundation itself has been creating Khmer extremism, corruption with impunity, thousand years before Mr. Hen Sen’s birth date. Please be understood that Cambodian is not a race’s name as certain individual of Khmer self-proclaimed have believed. One should thinks that this English word Cambodian meaning is not the same as Khmer language meaning, which has not been adjusted for decades along social evolution or in others words along with multi-ethnic integration. Cambodian should be called in Khmer word “Chun-Kampuchea” but not Khmer. Every English word we speak has been updated. So please be careful to catch-up this English word “Cambodian”, which is designated for calling all inhabitants within Cambodia’s territories without discriminating of origins of birth, belief, and political tendency. Please keep in mind that Cambodian does not exceed to be illegally added Khmer ethnic of Vietnam or Khmer ethnic of Thailand. Cambodian word is solely nominated for people within
Re: Killing Fields Filmmaker Wins Top World Journalism Prize
Judge Khmer rouge must also judge and condemn Yuon vc who created, formed and trained Khmer rouge to kill Khmer in order to rob land, resources and colonize Cambodia with millions and millions of yuon colons. http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html Yuon colons in Cambodia in 2003, a huge savage colonisation following the killing field operation http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1special-khrouge/in_vietcolo2003.htm After estimation of some searchers, the recent yuon colons in Cambodia is more than 8 millions. Yuons did led ethnic cleaning against Khmer robe resources, land and colonize Cambodia as yuons did in Laos, Kampuchea krom and Champa. កាត់ទោសខ្មែរក្រហមត្រូវតែកាត់ទោសអាចោរមេឃាតករគ្រប់សមយ័កាលយួនហាណូយដែលបានបង្កើតក្រុមខ្មែរក្រហមអោយកាប់សម្លាប់បំបាត់ ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរដើម្បីយួនហាណូយប្លន់ទឹកដីទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិរបស់ខ្មែរ ។ ពួកជនដែលឃុបឃិតឬចូលរួមជាមួយយួន, ជាមួយឧក្រិដ្ឋកម្មយួនដោយប្រការណាមួយ សុទ្ឋតែជាពួកបាតដៃប្រលាក់ឈាមខ្មែរ ។ - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:53 PM Subject: Re: Killing Fields Filmmaker Wins Top World Journalism Prize Congratulations to Mr Thet Sambath!! (The title of the article first made me mistakenly think it was the film The Killing Fields, and caused me to wonder why now, so late, 26 years after the release of the film in 1985). This award by an international organization clearly demonstrates that the world still rightly believes, as it always has, that the Khmer Rouge regime barbarically and atrociously massacred the Cambodian people. It serves, among other things, as a warning against those Khmers who're trying to get the Khmer Rouge off the hook. My condolences to Thet Sambath for having lost both his parents and an older brother to the unspeakably barbaric unspeakably atrocious unspeakably mass-murderous Khmer Rouge regime. I too lost lots of relatives, including my older brother and an older sister and their entire families, but none of my parents, to that regime. The Khmer Rouge must be punished. Thank you Perom Uch for such a great news. On Jun 23, 5:44 pm, Perom Uch perom@cambodia-gateway.com wrote: --- -- *From:* Rob Lemkin [mailto:sa...@oldstreetfilms.com] *Sent:* jeudi 23 juin 2011 20:11 *Subject:* Killing Fields Filmmaker Wins Top World Journalism Prize *KILLING FIELDS FILMMAKER WINS TOP WORLD JOURNALISM PRIZE* *Cambodian journalist and genocide survivor, Thet Sambath, has won the 2011 Knight International Journalism Award for uncovering the secrets of the brutal Pol Pot Regime. His film ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE will be used as evidence at the trial of the Khmer Rouge leaders which starts in Phnom Penh on Monday June 27, 2011.* A Cambodian journalist who spent a decade tracking down and eliciting unprecedented confessions from former Khmer Rouge officials has won the 2011 Knight International Journalismhttp://knight.icfj.org/Awards/2011AwardeebrThetSambath/tabid/1952/Def...Award. Thet Sambath, 44, a senior reporter with the English-language daily *Phnom Penh Post*, spent a decade gaining the trust of, among others, Pol Pot’s deputy Nuon Cheahttp://enemiesofthepeoplemovie.com/index.php/about-the-film1/characte...(aka Brother Number 2). His remarkable results were documented in the award-winning documentary film *Enemies of the People*http://enemiesofthepeoplemovie.com/which took Special Jury Prize for World Cinema at the Sundance Film Festival of 2010 and is to air on PBS television in July. ** The Knight Award is given annually by the Washington DC-based International Center for Journalistshttp://knight.icfj.org/AboutUs/ProgramOverview/tabid/830/Default.aspxin recognition of media professionals who have taken bold steps to keep citizens informed despite great obstacles. ICFJ said: “[Sambath’s film] is arguably the most important documentary about the Khmer Rouge. Within Cambodia its impact was close to home and personal. It will be used as evidence in the trial of Nuon Chea this year, and it brought Cambodians some understanding of that tragic time in their history.” * * *“Enemies of the People is arguably the most important documentary about the Khmer Rouge.” **International** Center** for Journalists* * * Thet Sambath speaking from his home in Phnom Penh said: “I am truly honored to receive this award for my work over the last decade. I believe its recognition will assist greatly in the process of finding out the truth of my country’s sad history and enabling us all, victims and perpetrators alike, to move forward together towards a more peaceful and just future.” Sambath lost both his parents and an older brother to the Khmer Rouge. They were among an estimated 1.7 million Cambodians (around 1 in 5 of the population) who died during the regime of the radical communist
Re: Khmer culture via yuon culture
គ្មាននរណាថា អាយួនឬអា kangaro ខុសទេ វាត្រូវចំកណ្កាលអំបែបក្បាលវាតែម្តង ។ - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Khmer culture via yuon culture I am very suprised to see these faces coming up again and again. As far as I can understand it, those people are famous in Cambodia. They are leaders of Cambodia from different generation. Now, you are saying that those Cambodians are selling their nation to Vietnam. Am I hearing right that Cambodians are selling their nation to Vietnam? Am I right by saying that Cambodians are destroying their own nation? What does it mean? Does it mean that Cambodians are very stupid people who sell their own nation? Am I right? On May 9, 8:29 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: ការតស៊ូរបស់ខ្មែរគ្រប់សមយ័កាលប្រឆាំងនឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ ការតស៊ូរបស់ខ្មែរប្រឆាំងនឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែររបស់ប្រទេសជិតខាងចាប់ផ្តើមតាំងតែពីរាជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ មក ម៉្លេះ ។ ក្នុងរាជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ ចាមដែលនៅសេសសល់ពីសង្រ្គាមរាំងជល់ជាមួយខ្មែរនិងចិន បានរួមដៃគ្នាជាមួយចិន, ជាពិសេស ពួក ចោរព្រៃចិនឬយួន(ដូចចិនយួនធ្វើជាមួយស៊ីហនុ/ខ្មែរក្រហមដែរ) មកវាយប្រហារខ្មែរមិនឈប់ឈរ ។ ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ដែលយល់ពីគ្រោះថ្នាក់ នេះ បានព្យាយាមកំចាត់ចោរព្រៃយួនដែលតែងតែជួយពួកចាមអោយមកកាប់សម្លាប់លួចប្លន់ទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិខ្មែរ ។ នៅឆ្នាំ 1128,1129, 1138 ,1150 ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ បានដឹកនាំពលទព័របស់ព្រះអង្គទៅកំចាត់ ចោរព្រៃយួនតែការព្យាយាមរបស់ ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ ពុំបានទទូល លិទ្ធផលទេ ព្រោះដោយសារបញ្ហាភូមិសាស្ត្រនិងជាពិសេសចោរព្រៃយួន មានការជួយជ្រួមជ្រែងពីចិនជានិច្ច មិនខុស ពីអ្វីដែលចិនដែលបានធ្វើជា មួយយួនយ៉ាកកុងឬខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ។ នៅរុជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទជយ័វរ័ន្មទី៨, ដោយគំនុំនិងសំអប់ចំពោះខ្មែរដែលមិនព្រមទទួលរណបបរទេសឬ មុងហ្គោលព្រមទាំងបានចាប់ទូតមុងហ្គោលកាត់កចោល មុងហ្គោលនិងចាម ហើយប្រហែលជាដោយការគាំទ្រពីចិនយួនបានវាយប្រហានិង ឈ្លានពានប្រទេសខ្មែរ ព្រមទាំងបានបង្ខំស្តេចខ្មែរអោយសម្លាប់ខ្មែរយកប្រមាត់ខ្មែរអោយពួកវាក្នុងមួយឆ្នាំមួយពាង ។ ការចងសម្ភន័ឈាមជាមួយយួនក្នុងររង្វង់ស្តេច ក្នុងរង្វង់មន្រ្តីរដ្ឋកាលជាន់ខ្ពស់និងការយកយួនមករស់នៅកកកុញក្នុងរាជរាំងនិងក្នុងទឹកដី ខ្មែរ រុជ្ជកាលជៃជេដ្ឋាទី២ ជាដំណាក់កាលថ្មីមួយនៃប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តខ្មែរសំគាល់ដោយអភិភវន័និងឥទ្ធិពលយួនជាគំហុកមកក្នុងសង្គមខ្មែរ ។ ការ ប្រលយ័ពូជសសន៍ខ្មែរដ៏យ៉ងឃ្នងមួយរបស់យួន ក្នុងចំណោមការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួនមកលើឥតឈប់ឈមកលើខ្មែរ គឺនៅដើមសតវត្សទី១៩ ។ កាលណោះយួនបានជីករណ្ណៅកប់ខ្មែរទាំងរស់ទុកត្រឹមក្បាលធ្វើជាមុមចង្រ្កានដាំតែអុងវា បានកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរដោយសាហាវ បំផុតមិនខុសពី សមយ័ខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ដូចជាចាប់ខ្មែរកាត់ក កាត់ដៃជើងខ្លួនជាចំណែក ចាប់ចាក់ហែកកូនក្មេងខ្មែរដោយព្រៃផ្សៃបំផុតសម្រាប់ការសប្បាយរបស់វា ជាពិសេសខ្មែរនៅតំបន់អង្គរ មិនខុសពីសមយ័ខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ។ ដោយខ្មែរជាជនជាតិមួយដែលអោយតម្លៃលើសេរីភាពរបស់ខ្លួន លើឧត្តម្តភាព លើសច្ច:លើយុត្តិធម៌និងសុខមាលភាព ស្អប់ខ្ពើមអំពើអយុត្តិធម៌ អំពើសាហាវព្រៃផ្សៃ ស្អប់ខ្ពើមវប្បធម៌ចោរ វប្បធម៌ព្រៃផ្សៃអំពើសាហាវយ៉ងឃ្នងទើបនៅគ្រប់សមយ័កាល នៅពេលដែលខ្មែរប្រឈមមុខនឹងវប្បធម៌ចោរ, វប្បធម៌ព្រៃនិងការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួន ខ្មែរតែងងើបប្រឆាំងនឹងការឈ្លានពាន, ការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួន នឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃដែលយួនព្យាយាមចាក់បញ្ចូលក្នុងសង្គមខ្មែរ ទោះការតស៊ូនេះមានភាពសន្សឹមៗទន់ខ្សោយឬយឺតយាវតាមចរិកលក្ខណ:ខ្មែរជាជនជាតិ សច្ច:ត្រង់ស្លូតបូត ទើកមើកខ្វះតណ្ហានិងឆន្ទ:លោភលន់ព្យាបាទជីវិតអ្នកដ៏ទៃ សូម្បីសត្រូវខ្លួន ។ រាប់សតវត្សមកហើយដែលដូនតាខ្មែរបាន ព្យាយាមរុញច្រានវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ចោរនិងពួកឃាតករប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរដ៏ព្រៃផ្សៃយងឃ្នងទាំងនេះអោយជៀសឆ្ងាយពីទឹកដីខ្មែរ ហេតុអ្វីខ្មែរសមយ័នេះ មិនអាចធ្វើបាន? ឬមនុស្សខ្មែរបច្ចុប្បន្នលែងសល់អ្វីជាខ្មែរទៀត ហើយ? ឬខ្មែរគ្រាន់តែខ្វះមធ្យោបាយ ពត៌មានការរៀបចំនិងអ្នកដឹកនាំល្អដែលមានឧត្តម្តគតិជាខ្មែរ ស្គាល់តម្លៃខ្មែរ មិនមែនជាយួនឬអាយ៉ង ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ - Original Message - From: Bopha Angkor To: khmer-ave...@googlegroups.com ; camdisc@googlegroups.com ; republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:58 PM Subject: Fw: Khmer culture via yuon culture Yuons ever scheme of killing and destroying of Cambodia, people and nation នៅក្នុងដំណើរនយោបាយប្រលយ័ពូជសាន៍ពង្រីកទឹកដី យួនតែងប្រើកលល្បិចចាស់កំរិលតែមានប្រសិទ្ធភាពគឺ សិល្ប:សង្រ្គាមចិន”សាមកុក” ។ ក្នុងសិល្ប៍ សង្រ្គាម”សាមកុក”នេះមានកលល្បិចច្រើនណាស់ តែជាមួយមេដឹកនាំខ្មែរ យួនប្រើតែល្បិចពីរបីប៉ុណ្ណោះគឺ ល្បិចក្តៅនិងល្បិចត្រជាក់ (ជាចំបង) ។ ចំពោះល្បិចត្រជាក់ យួនបំប៉ន់អាយ៉ងឬកញ្ចះរបស់វា(ជម្រើសយួន)អោយវិលវល់ច្របល់ងងុលងងឹតនឹងបុណ្យសក្តិ ស្រីស្រាល្បែងពាលានិងទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិលុយកាក់ មាស់ប្រាក់ដ៏លើសលប់ដែលយួនបានមកពីការលួចប្លន់ជិះជាន់កាប់សម្លាប់ប្រជាជនស្លូតត្រង់ដែលវាជិះជាន់ដើម្បីអោយពួកអាយ៉ង ឬកញ្ចះរបស់វា អស់នោះមាន កម្លាំងបន្តការប្លន់ជិះជាន់កាប់សម្លាប់ប្រជាជនស្លូតត្រង់តទៅទៀត ។ ចំពោះល្បិចក្តៅ យួនប្រើល្បិច បំបាត់ខ្លួនបំបិទមាត់ដោយប្រការផ្សេង មានការបំបាត់ជីវិតនិងដកហូតបុណ្យសក្តិទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិដែលយួនបំប៉ន អោយវេទនារហេមរហាមដូចអណ្តើកក្នុងភ្លើង ។ ក្នុងអំឡុងឆ្នាំ៧០, ពេលដែល ដឹងខ្លួនថាចាញ់បោកយួន និងកុំម្មុនីស្ត ប៉ុល-ពត ព្យាយាមចង់ចេញពីការគ្រប់គ្រងរបស់យួន, របស់កុំម្មុនីស្ត ពេលនោះសហភាពសូវៀតចង់នាំក្រុមសម្ភន័មិត្ត របស់គេមកកំទេចប៉ុល-ពត ចោលតែត្រូវយួន ផាំវាន់ដុង ហាមខាត់ ។ យួនផាំវាន់ដុងគ្រាន់តែនិយាយប្រាប់មិត្តវាថា យួនដឹងច្បាស់ថា ពេលណាត្រូវប្រើ
Fw: Khmer culture via yuon culture
គ្មាននរណាថា អាយួនឬអា kangaro ខុសទេ វាត្រូវចំកណ្កាលអំបែងក្បាលតែម្តង ។ - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Khmer culture via yuon culture I am very suprised to see these faces coming up again and again. As far as I can understand it, those people are famous in Cambodia. They are leaders of Cambodia from different generation. Now, you are saying that those Cambodians are selling their nation to Vietnam. Am I hearing right that Cambodians are selling their nation to Vietnam? Am I right by saying that Cambodians are destroying their own nation? What does it mean? Does it mean that Cambodians are very stupid people who sell their own nation? Am I right? On May 9, 8:29 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: ការតស៊ូរបស់ខ្មែរគ្រប់សមយ័កាលប្រឆាំងនឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ ការតស៊ូរបស់ខ្មែរប្រឆាំងនឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែររបស់ប្រទេសជិតខាងចាប់ផ្តើមតាំងតែពីរាជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ មក ម៉្លេះ ។ ក្នុងរាជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ ចាមដែលនៅសេសសល់ពីសង្រ្គាមរាំងជល់ជាមួយខ្មែរនិងចិន បានរួមដៃគ្នាជាមួយចិន, ជាពិសេស ពួក ចោរព្រៃចិនឬយួន(ដូចចិនយួនធ្វើជាមួយស៊ីហនុ/ខ្មែរក្រហមដែរ) មកវាយប្រហារខ្មែរមិនឈប់ឈរ ។ ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ដែលយល់ពីគ្រោះថ្នាក់ នេះ បានព្យាយាមកំចាត់ចោរព្រៃយួនដែលតែងតែជួយពួកចាមអោយមកកាប់សម្លាប់លួចប្លន់ទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិខ្មែរ ។ នៅឆ្នាំ 1128,1129, 1138 ,1150 ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ បានដឹកនាំពលទព័របស់ព្រះអង្គទៅកំចាត់ ចោរព្រៃយួនតែការព្យាយាមរបស់ ព្រះបាទសូរិយវរ័ន្មទី២ ពុំបានទទូល លិទ្ធផលទេ ព្រោះដោយសារបញ្ហាភូមិសាស្ត្រនិងជាពិសេសចោរព្រៃយួន មានការជួយជ្រួមជ្រែងពីចិនជានិច្ច មិនខុស ពីអ្វីដែលចិនដែលបានធ្វើជា មួយយួនយ៉ាកកុងឬខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ។ នៅរុជ្ជកាលព្រះបាទជយ័វរ័ន្មទី៨, ដោយគំនុំនិងសំអប់ចំពោះខ្មែរដែលមិនព្រមទទួលរណបបរទេសឬ មុងហ្គោលព្រមទាំងបានចាប់ទូតមុងហ្គោលកាត់កចោល មុងហ្គោលនិងចាម ហើយប្រហែលជាដោយការគាំទ្រពីចិនយួនបានវាយប្រហានិង ឈ្លានពានប្រទេសខ្មែរ ព្រមទាំងបានបង្ខំស្តេចខ្មែរអោយសម្លាប់ខ្មែរយកប្រមាត់ខ្មែរអោយពួកវាក្នុងមួយឆ្នាំមួយពាង ។ ការចងសម្ភន័ឈាមជាមួយយួនក្នុងររង្វង់ស្តេច ក្នុងរង្វង់មន្រ្តីរដ្ឋកាលជាន់ខ្ពស់និងការយកយួនមករស់នៅកកកុញក្នុងរាជរាំងនិងក្នុងទឹកដី ខ្មែរ រុជ្ជកាលជៃជេដ្ឋាទី២ ជាដំណាក់កាលថ្មីមួយនៃប្រវត្តិសាស្រ្តខ្មែរសំគាល់ដោយអភិភវន័និងឥទ្ធិពលយួនជាគំហុកមកក្នុងសង្គមខ្មែរ ។ ការ ប្រលយ័ពូជសសន៍ខ្មែរដ៏យ៉ងឃ្នងមួយរបស់យួន ក្នុងចំណោមការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួនមកលើឥតឈប់ឈមកលើខ្មែរ គឺនៅដើមសតវត្សទី១៩ ។ កាលណោះយួនបានជីករណ្ណៅកប់ខ្មែរទាំងរស់ទុកត្រឹមក្បាលធ្វើជាមុមចង្រ្កានដាំតែអុងវា បានកាប់សម្លាប់ខ្មែរដោយសាហាវ បំផុតមិនខុសពី សមយ័ខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ដូចជាចាប់ខ្មែរកាត់ក កាត់ដៃជើងខ្លួនជាចំណែក ចាប់ចាក់ហែកកូនក្មេងខ្មែរដោយព្រៃផ្សៃបំផុតសម្រាប់ការសប្បាយរបស់វា ជាពិសេសខ្មែរនៅតំបន់អង្គរ មិនខុសពីសមយ័ខ្មែរក្រហមទេ ។ ដោយខ្មែរជាជនជាតិមួយដែលអោយតម្លៃលើសេរីភាពរបស់ខ្លួន លើឧត្តម្តភាព លើសច្ច:លើយុត្តិធម៌និងសុខមាលភាព ស្អប់ខ្ពើមអំពើអយុត្តិធម៌ អំពើសាហាវព្រៃផ្សៃ ស្អប់ខ្ពើមវប្បធម៌ចោរ វប្បធម៌ព្រៃផ្សៃអំពើសាហាវយ៉ងឃ្នងទើបនៅគ្រប់សមយ័កាល នៅពេលដែលខ្មែរប្រឈមមុខនឹងវប្បធម៌ចោរ, វប្បធម៌ព្រៃនិងការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួន ខ្មែរតែងងើបប្រឆាំងនឹងការឈ្លានពាន, ការកាប់សម្លាប់របស់យួន នឹងវប្បធម៌ព្រៃដែលយួនព្យាយាមចាក់បញ្ចូលក្នុងសង្គមខ្មែរ ទោះការតស៊ូនេះមានភាពសន្សឹមៗទន់ខ្សោយឬយឺតយាវតាមចរិកលក្ខណ:ខ្មែរជាជនជាតិ សច្ច:ត្រង់ស្លូតបូត ទើកមើកខ្វះតណ្ហានិងឆន្ទ:លោភលន់ព្យាបាទជីវិតអ្នកដ៏ទៃ សូម្បីសត្រូវខ្លួន ។ រាប់សតវត្សមកហើយដែលដូនតាខ្មែរបាន ព្យាយាមរុញច្រានវប្បធម៌ព្រៃ វប្បធម៌ចោរនិងពួកឃាតករប្រលយ័ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរដ៏ព្រៃផ្សៃយងឃ្នងទាំងនេះអោយជៀសឆ្ងាយពីទឹកដីខ្មែរ ហេតុអ្វីខ្មែរសមយ័នេះ មិនអាចធ្វើបាន? ឬមនុស្សខ្មែរបច្ចុប្បន្នលែងសល់អ្វីជាខ្មែរទៀត ហើយ? ឬខ្មែរគ្រាន់តែខ្វះមធ្យោបាយ ពត៌មានការរៀបចំនិងអ្នកដឹកនាំល្អដែលមានឧត្តម្តគតិជាខ្មែរ ស្គាល់តម្លៃខ្មែរ មិនមែនជាយួនឬអាយ៉ង ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ - Original Message - From: Bopha Angkor To: khmer-ave...@googlegroups.com ; camdisc@googlegroups.com ; republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:58 PM Subject: Fw: Khmer culture via yuon culture Yuons ever scheme of killing and destroying of Cambodia, people and nation នៅក្នុងដំណើរនយោបាយប្រលយ័ពូជសាន៍ពង្រីកទឹកដី យួនតែងប្រើកលល្បិចចាស់កំរិលតែមានប្រសិទ្ធភាពគឺ សិល្ប:សង្រ្គាមចិន”សាមកុក” ។ ក្នុងសិល្ប៍ សង្រ្គាម”សាមកុក”នេះមានកលល្បិចច្រើនណាស់ តែជាមួយមេដឹកនាំខ្មែរ យួនប្រើតែល្បិចពីរបីប៉ុណ្ណោះគឺ ល្បិចក្តៅនិងល្បិចត្រជាក់ (ជាចំបង) ។ ចំពោះល្បិចត្រជាក់ យួនបំប៉ន់អាយ៉ងឬកញ្ចះរបស់វា(ជម្រើសយួន)អោយវិលវល់ច្របល់ងងុលងងឹតនឹងបុណ្យសក្តិ ស្រីស្រាល្បែងពាលានិងទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិលុយកាក់ មាស់ប្រាក់ដ៏លើសលប់ដែលយួនបានមកពីការលួចប្លន់ជិះជាន់កាប់សម្លាប់ប្រជាជនស្លូតត្រង់ដែលវាជិះជាន់ដើម្បីអោយពួកអាយ៉ង ឬកញ្ចះរបស់វា អស់នោះមាន កម្លាំងបន្តការប្លន់ជិះជាន់កាប់សម្លាប់ប្រជាជនស្លូតត្រង់តទៅទៀត ។ ចំពោះល្បិចក្តៅ យួនប្រើល្បិច បំបាត់ខ្លួនបំបិទមាត់ដោយប្រការផ្សេង មានការបំបាត់ជីវិតនិងដកហូតបុណ្យសក្តិទ្រព្យសម្បត្តិដែលយួនបំប៉ន អោយវេទនារហេមរហាមដូចអណ្តើកក្នុងភ្លើង ។ ក្នុងអំឡុងឆ្នាំ៧០, ពេលដែល ដឹងខ្លួនថាចាញ់បោកយួន និងកុំម្មុនីស្ត ប៉ុល-ពត ព្យាយាមចង់ចេញពីការគ្រប់គ្រងរបស់យួន, របស់កុំម្មុនីស្ត ពេលនោះសហភាពសូវៀតចង់នាំក្រុមសម្ភន័មិត្ត របស់គេមកកំទេចប៉ុល-ពត ចោលតែត្រូវយួន ផាំវាន់ដុង ហាមខាត់ ។ យួនផាំវាន់ដុងគ្រាន់តែនិយាយប្រាប់មិត្តវាថា យួនដឹងច្បាស់ថា ពេលណាត្រូវប្រើ
Re: Yuon Kampong Romleay Srok Yoeung (by Hin Sithan)
What is great in democracy for criminals is, while criminals can clean their bloody hands, animal can express its opinion or version of things. - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Yuon Kampong Romleay Srok Yoeung (by Hin Sithan) Now we are talking. You just mentioned those names yourself. Do you know what nationality Pol Pot, Sihanouk, and their comrades are? Whether it is true or not that they did it for Vietnamese or not, do you know that those people killed their own people in their own country? This has been written in the Cambodian history because it is true that they killed and destroyed their own country with their own hands. How worse can it be? It CAN'T be any worse than that. That's why I am suggesting that Cambodians should join Thailand as one country called the Kingdom of Thailand so people can live in peace and freedom. On Apr 24, 12:50 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: No need to ask, Polpot, sihanouk and all their comrades khmer rouge did join yuon to bring youn great culture and yuon genocide to Cambodia since the time of polpot or even over, till today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Help Hurt
@ Yuon-Hanoi bag yr sorry ass and go home Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders of Khmer people ! - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Help Hurt Isn't what Khmer Rouge was saying all along? Do you know what they did? That's right. They destroyed everything in their path except clothing on their bodies, a sack with a spoon and a plate, and a krama around their neck. Is that what you want it here too? Ofcourse, you would say No. However, your view and wanting to be show clearly that that is what you want to do. On Apr 5, 10:08 am, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: The ruling party of CPP is celebrating a win and win policy at the expenses of Cambodian people. The current government is helping the rich and the well off group of people to become richer and richer, on the other hand they are hurting the poor khmers to become homeless, jobless and destitute . The ruling party is pro rich against poor, they forgot where they were coming from . Million of Cambodian people are angry of the ruling party policy, because of their pro-rich business which has no benefit to the public only profit to their families and friends. The win win policy of CPP is deriving from the four basic of evil platform : Corruption, Violence, Lawlessness and Poverty. It is time for all khmers to wake up and unite together and set a side the differences.There is a way khmer can communicate each other and work together by adopting the spirit of compassion, tolerance and love, because we are the descendant of Khmer Angkor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Document movie: VC kill Khmer
@ Yuon-Hanoi bag yr sorry ass and go home Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders ! - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Document movie: VC kill Khmer I think Cambodians kill their own Cambodians more than any countries have done combined. On Apr 5, 4:06 pm, Savun incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting movie: Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZbVSDbRYcfeature=related- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: La France, le racisme, la traite des humains, crime contre humanité et crime contre la paix
Bonjour, J’étais ravie de la résolution 1973 quand elle était adoptée par ONU permettant ONU d’intervenir militairement au Liban à fin de protéger les vies civiles ou les oppressions sanglants perpétuées par le dictateur. Je crois que cette résolution peut être adopté à bien d’autres cas pour protéger les peuples ou les civiles qui luttent pour les droits, la liberté et la démocratie dans le monde entier y compris au Cambodge, la Birmanie, le Laos…, ect mais malheureusement je me suis réjouie trop vite. Comme toujours, l’ONU a sans cesse abusé, violé son rôle, ses principales en se comportant comme le régulateur colonial féroce pour défendre les intérêts de ses membres que des droits de l’homme ou des droits des peuples come il le prétend. Il permet sans cesse à ses membres d’intervenir ou commettre des atrocités, provoquer les guerres civiles, des génocides atroces en tout impunité contres les peuples dans le monde entier pour leurs propres intérêts, politiques ou économiques. Je ne sais pas tout cela nous mène mais on doit tout lever notre voix et mener des actions concrètes contre cette injustice et pour que ONU respecte ses principes, son rôle qui est le model ou le gardian des droits de l’homme et des droits des peuples et non le contraire. L’action militaire française récente en Côte d’Ivoire est une dénie de droits et une violation militaire évidente contre le Côte d’Ivoire et le peuple ivoirien. La France a profité sa position et ses privilèges au sien de l’ONU pour régler ses propres comptes et commettre des crimes contre Côte d’Ivoire en éliminant les peuples ou les personnes indésirables à la colonisation française en Côte d’Ivoire. Cette action militaire injustifiée contre le Côte d’Ivoire EST par conséquent UN CRIME contre la paix, Crime contre l’institution et peuple ivoirien comme cela est expliqué dans mon précédent message. Pour le cas de Khmer Krom, oui c’est UN des Pires Crimes commis par la France contre Khmer Krom en livrant Kampuchea Krom et Khmer Krom à leurs pires assassins de tous les temps qui sont les yuons en dette de sa guerre perdue contre ceux-ci. Et que fait la France pour aider ou racheter leur crimes . Oui en aidant les yuons par tous les moyens possibles à renvoyer les Khmer krom au paradis au plus vite possible. Comme toujours un crime ordinaire et gratuit de la France sans remord ni coupable et histoire repasse sous ses hôtes sur une page blanche et une belle chanson avec le vin rouge en guise … Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: komar koun To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: La France, le racisme, la traite des humains, crime contre humanité et crime contre la paix S.A.R kozy pratique la politique strategique de grandeur coloniale : la France a fait gouter la mëme sauce de namur aux khmers krom en nommant un viet a' la tete de la republique de Cochinchine (Kampuchea krom) en 1946.La loi du plus grand canon n'a jamais été pue renverser. 2011/4/6 Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr Bonjour à tous, La situation politique au Côte d’Ivoire est très proche de celle du Cambodge. Comme le Cambodge, Côte d’Ivoire essaye de lutter contre les immigrations massives venant des pays voisins et ils sont les islamistes intégristes ou autre comme le Cambodge essaye de lutter (ou pas) contre les installations massives des communistes vietcong au Cambodge via Khmer rouge cpp/yuon vc. Ces dernières années les immigrations au Côte d’ Ivoire se sont multiplié par trois. Le camp de Ouattara est le parti politique des immigrations (ou on peut le dire franchement les envahisseurs islamistes) de Côte d’Ivoire comme les 21 communautés yuon dans les provinces cambodgiens. Ces gens sont très barbares. Depuis des années, les massacres contre les civils ivoiriens par ces barbares, soutenu militairement et diplomatique par le France et les Onuci, sont très fréquents. C’est comme les vietcong et cpp essayent de massacrer, voir même exterminer les Cambodgiens pour les voler la terre et les ressources et coloniser complètement le Cambodge, et si on les dénoncer, ces cpp/yuons et ces autres, nous accuseront d’être racistes ou autre. Une de mes proches connait les ivoiriens et leur problème personnellement. Elle a déjà rencontré et parlait avec Madame Gbagbo. Ces gens sont chrétiens et sont très respectables. Le seul crime de M. Gbagbo est de vouloir l’indépendance pour son peuple et son pays et de vouloir sortir son pays de l’occupation française (neocolonisation) à fin de restaurer son pays à un état de droits et démocratique. Les sondages et l’enquête indépendante prouvent que M. Gbagbo est le vainqueur légitime de cette dernière élection nationale en Côte d’ Ivoire s’il n’y a pas des complots, des tricheries et des fraudes. http://www.wat.tv/video/raisons-ne-pas-marcher-victoire-3l1rj_3l1m1_.html
La France, le racisme, la traite des humains, crime contre humanité et crime contre la paix
déclaration de droits de l'homme donc la protection des civile et ceux qui luttent pour les droits et la démocratie mais je condamne les practices peu démocratiques voir même criminels de ses membres, surtout la France. Que ONU mène des actions efficaces pour les principes de droits de l'homme là où on en a besoin et non pour commettre des crimes contre les fiables, les innocents à fine de défendre les intérêts des personnes ou des pays puissants ! Merci Bopha Angkor Quelques rappels des atrocités et crimes coloniales http://www.kongo-kinshasa.de/dokumente/lekture/crime_of_congo.pdf http://www.congopage.com/Peut-on-vraiment-defendre-la http://www.africamaat.com/DE-L-OCCULTATION-DE-LA-MEMOIRE http://sossvp.centerblog.net/2823752-la-colonisation http://laiusolibrius.free.fr/index.php?2007/03/26/206-colonisation-positive http://www.ufctogo.com/Permis-de-colonisation-1101.html http://www.ldh-toulon.net/spip.php?article2489 http://chroniques-rebelles.info/spip.php?article421 http://www.partiantisioniste.com/communications/de-la-libye-a-la-cote-d-ivoire-la-colonisation-francaise-continue-0672.html French occupation war's crimes http://www.israelforum.com/board/archive/index.php/t-7219.html Other French war crimes and genocides in Africa - http://www.visiontv.ca/RememberRwanda/Files/March2004ProjectUpdate.pdf http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1716/17160580.htm http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/36/437.html http://www.cobelco.info/Histoire/histoireframeset.htm http://blog.passion-histoire.net/?p=3867 http://www.studygroup-bd.org/colonialism-british-colonisation-of-egypt.html - Original Message - From: Nokoreach -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: PART 4. : UN Resolution 1973 IT'S HENRY KISSINGER'S DEAL WITH LIBYAN OIL
USA bombed Cambodia because Sihanouk allowed vietcong to use Cambodia as yuon sanctuary to kill Khmer and attack USA bas.. http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1sihanouk-crime.htm http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1sothpolin/1bestof-sothpolin.htm Unfortunately this bombing had killed thousands of innocent Khmer and caused other thousands victims of it till today. And USA must face this responsibility. Beside, USA should bombe all those murderers vietcong so these criminals would never have occasion to lead/planed numerous worse mass graves against millions of innocent to rob and resources of those people. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal, YES, and he should stand trial as any criminal did if USA people work out for it. But NO need for yuon propagandas - Original Message - From: Bury Chau To: chaub...@hotmail.com Cc: goolge goolge Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:35 PM Subject: RE: PART 4. : UN Resolution 1973 IT'S HENRY KISSINGER'S DEAL WITH LIBYAN OIL HENRY KISSINGER's oil deals with the Middle East countries made in secret behind the back of the US Congress during the 1970's are coming to open. DON'T CALL IT WAR! IT'S 'KINETIC MILITARY ACTION' THE SAME OLD GAME PLAYED BY HENRY KISSINGER February 22-March 15, 1969 March 18, 1969 Secret Bombing Of Cambodia US begins secret bombing of Cambodia. Nixon's War: The American Bombing Begins There are no American combat troops in Cambodia. There are no American combat advisers in Cambodia. There will be no American combat troops or advisers in Cambodia. We will aid Cambodia. Cambodia is the Nixon doctrine in its purest form - President Richard M. Nixon, November 1971 B-52s airstrikes were one of the most lethal non-nuclear forms of attack in the Air Force's arsenal, as they could be used to carpet bomb large swaths of land, targeted in boxes of approximately two miles by one half mile square. In a memo to General Earle Wheeler, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Creighton argued Total bomber exposure over Cambodian territory would be less than one minute per sortie. (Shawcross, p20) The idea was pitched to Nixon, who quickly approved the bombing with the assistance of his national security advisor Henry Kissinger. The first airstrikes were set for March, barely one month after the initial intelligence reports. In honor of the breakfast meeting at the Pentagon that led to Nixon's approval of the strike, the assault was codenamed Operation Breakfast. As suggested by Kissenger, Nixon ordered that the attacks occur in secret, and all attempts to expose the bombing should be stopped. General Wheeler informed his staff: In the event press inquiries are received following the execution of the Breakfast Plan as to whether or not US B-52s have struck in Cambodia, US spokesman will confirm that B-52s did strike on routine missions adjacent to the Cambodian border but state that he has no details and will look into the question. (Shawcross, p22) On the 9th of March, 48 boxes - approximately 48 square miles of Cambodian territory - were carpet bombed for Breakfast. Over the course of the next 14 months, the US conducted 3630 B-52 bombing raids in Cambodian territory. Each major operation followed on a tradition set out by Breakfast; subsequent plans included Operations Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Dessert, Supper. It had taken a change of presidential administrations to start these attacks, but once the bombing began, a new routine of escalation fell into place. Henry Kissinger was livid because of the minor breech. He concluded the story had been leaked by Mort Halperin, an aide on the National Security Council staff. In retribution, Kissinger removed Halperin from the loop and successfully arranged FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover to wiretap Halperin's home. The Halperin tap was the first of many administration-sanctioned, illegal wiretaps that helped bring down the Nixon presidency. LIBYA ? iT'S RELATED TO THE recent FREEZING by the US treasury dept , of the Libya ASSETS ,including various investment from $ 39 TO $ 40 BILLIONS DOLLARS DEPOSITED IN THE US BANKS, OWNED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS IN NEW YORK. GADHAFI'S DEAL WITH KISSINGER EXPIRED ? So Henry Kissinger is working for the FED and not for the American National Interests. making THE UNITED NATIONS ORG : A CIVILIAN KILLING MACHINE, DECIDED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK, through Mme Clinton the US Sec of State . THE UNITED NATIONS BUILDING IS OWNED BY THE FED BUT FUNDED BY THE US TAX PAYERS RUN BY THE FED . WE GAIN $39 bILLION DOLLARS FROM MY FRIEND GADHAFI, JUST BY A STROKE OF A PEN WITH MY EXECUTIVE ORDER . TIM JUST HITS THE KEY CODE OF TO THE US TREASURY COMPUTER, EH VOILA, ALL THE US BANKS SHOWING LIBYA'S DEPOSITS ARE FROZEN. WE HAVE AN INSTANT
Re: Vietnamization of Khmer names
Khmer had no problem with yuons as neighbors capable of some civilizes, respects and humanism, and not just that utter barbarism and animalistic. It's the minimum that a mankind capable to other mankind accepts the contrary. But yes, Khmer HAD PROBLEM with YUONS AS ROBBERS, AS CRIMONALS, AS deceitful MURDERERS that come to kill Khmer, led mass graves against Khmer to rob Khmer richness, land and resources. And it is not only Khmer's problem with those barbaric murdered yuons but it become problem with all mankind who respect and believe human universal values which are freedom and human rights. All human must condemn and dare to stand up to end this kind of utter inhuman and criminal acts. This is what the wreckful and murdered yuons must understand - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Vietnamization of Khmer names If you read all of discussions around the globe about Cambodia written by Cambodians, you would see one thing in common. Cambodians hate Vietnamese, and they want nothing to do with it. Now think about it. How can Cambodians live with their next door neighbor by thinking or believing that way? Now, let us not make anyone bad for the moment. No matter how you look at it, Cambodians cannot proscrastinating about something that they don't like. My friend, China used to be number one enemy to America. Do you know that China is the number one partner in their economy? Look at Vietnam. Do you know that they are now friends to America? Things are changing. Cambodians cannot get stucked in a position that would bring them no where. On Mar 19, 3:59 am, Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com wrote: H.E. Madame Men Sam An is a nice lady and friendly to everybody. Because of her close connection to Hanoi and leading association of Cambodian-Vietnam Friendship that made her to be a Deputy Prime Minister in Cambodia, this is a highest position for the female fonctionnaire in the kingdom. I believe she speak Vietnamese fluently with no accent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: 18 Mina, Virakpheap Knong Duonchett K'nhom (by Heng Thal Savuth)
Casual views from a chronic royalist, slave of the yuon slaves - These cronies are not only ignorant but also denial cribs and criminals with Zero guilt - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:49 AM Subject: Re: 18 Mina, Virakpheap Knong Duonchett K'nhom (by Heng Thal Savuth) The event of 18 Mina should not happen because the key players had no preparation nor having any concrete plan to deal with the consequences. The vibration of nationalism among khmer in urban area was at peak, but the people of other places were not . We know Vietcong are everywhere. We accused former king a traitor selling land to Vietcong. The national assembly at that time was just rubber stamp of the coup plotters, some of them still respected former king and other hesitated to make a change.The situation was completely chaotic and confused . Khmer rouge and Vietcong were so happy to assist khmer Republic leaders to attack former king and making no compromise.The coup made Nixon a surprise which he did not realize how could it happen.France attempted to ask for Geneva conference in order to restore King Sihanouk back to power, but both South and North Vietnam including American refused. France could not intervene nor having any influence to the coup plotters in Cambodia not to abolish monarchy institution as England did to Thailand during the coup of 1932. England warned coup plotters in Thailand to use force if monarchy institution demolished. Some argued that if no coup at that time the whole kingdom of Cambodia was fallen in Vietnamese hand. The Vietnamese was not stupid enough to take Cambodia before liberating South if they did their struggle of liberating South was dead. We had liitle information about Vietnam, the only thing we know about them is hatre. Fanatic nationalism is very dangerous that why we lost the war, we lost so many lives and then we lost the country as today .The ignorance of history condemned us to the dead. On Mar 18, 9:34 am, Vichea Sam vsam...@gmail.com wrote: Please see attachment. Thanks, V.S. 18 Mina.pdf 199KViewDownload 18 Mina.jpg 479KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Remember 18 Mars
That's what yuons, cronies and deny cribs can say about that ... Nothing new. During cool war yuons vc the murderers and aggressors were all over Cambodia, these yuons vc sew violence, chaotic, atrocity, and massacre innocent Khmer people in their own homes in order to colonize Cambodia. Till today the same yuons vc and their killing machine, the communist khmer rouge continue to commit crimes endlessly against Khmer people to serve yuon vc expansionist and genocidal ambition against Khmer people. No one can against a principle that, Khmer people have all rights and legitimacy to defend their life and those of theirs against the criminals youn vc who come to kill Khmer in their home, robe their land, home, family, wife, child and spread the massacre in their house. International community must get rid of these murderer yuon vc and their cronies communists Khmer rouge from this silent extermination commit by the yuons vc and cronies against Khmer people. The regime that yuon vc imposed to Khmer people is not better than the one Kaddafi but worse. If International considered acts or regime of Kaddafi is a crime against humanity, the one of yuons vc and their cronies Khmer rouge is the worse one. The world must get rid of the communism, of this kind of system because it is so inhuman. It has no regard to life concerned by it. Democracy and freedom for all. - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Remember 18 Mars Let me think about it. First of all, we know the fact that Republic of Cambodia started with the killings of Vietnamese Cambodians. I don't know what you call that. To me, it is acts of killing. Second, we also know that Republic of Cambodia also distort its own people. They used their own marshal laws to suppress their own people. They took everything for themselves on their path for their own gain. Beside they distort their own people everywhere. I don't know what you call that society. To me, it was a rotten society. On Mar 18, 5:37 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: (Sourcehttp://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150157188325091) Friends and Compatriots, Yuon vc and its bunch always accused Khmer people (republicans) who fought against yuons aggression and killing during seventy as hated or racist people but today my sincere thoughts and prayer are for those people specially all mine who fell under the fires of yuon Vietcong until the arrival of Khmer rouge at 17 April 1975 which open the door of the genocide against Khmer people. No one can against a principle that, Khmer people have all rights and legitimacy to defend their life and those of theirs against the criminals youn vc who come to kill Khmer in their home, robe their land, home, family, wife, child and spread the massacre in their house. Remember the courage of the little solder of Khmer Republic who consecrated his life and childhood for his country. He should instead go to school and live happy with his family and friends if those yuons vc whose heart filled of atrocious hatred would not come to destroy him, his family to rob his land and country. See how Khmer people feel while their country and cities drown in fired and blood, surround by those merciless murderers vietcong and cronies. Yes I can feel their frustration and suffering as my own. http://www.ina.fr/histoire-et-conflits/autres-conflits/video/CAF96061... http://www.ina.fr/histoire-et-conflits/autres-conflits/video/CAA75013... http://www.ina.fr/video/I00017514/sisowath-13-ans-soldat-cambodgien.f... http://www.ina.fr/video/CAF96061695/situation-cambodge.fr.html http://www.ina.fr/histoire-et-conflits/autres-conflits/video/CAF96061... http://www.ina.fr/histoire-et-conflits/autres-conflits/video/CAA75020... http://www.ina.fr/economie-et-societe/vie-sociale/video/CAF91063955/s... http://www.ina.fr/histoire-et-conflits/autres-conflits/video/CAF96061... During the cool war, yuons Vietcongs used Khmer territory as sanctuary to attack USA base as well against Cambodia and Cambodian people. How many innocent had been atrocious and killed by those yuons Vietcong? Those Khmer innocent did nothing against those yuons vc, all they asked is to live in peace in their home with theirs loves ones. I believe it is absolutely extremely irresponsible and foolish as Khmer citizen, or at least a human to do nothing against those barbaric yuon vc aggressors and murderers . Will you do nothing if there are murderers come into your home, sack your wealth, rape your wife and daughters and killed the rest of your family to rob your home, land and resources? At the second though, I think there are worse than that. Sihanouk and his band did not only help Khmer people to fight against those barbaric yuon vc aggressors and murderers but did joined those yuons vc
Re: Vietnamese MIA: Did they die for Cambodia or for Vietnam?
Yuons vc died for its own crimes, its own atrocity and criminal ambition against other people and nations in the region. While there no more Khmer people to kill, yuons vc will kill its own kind. Or perhaps it already did since long ego since yuons can also eat its own friends, after pou sacrava. That's the problem with the criminals. And nope, yuons vc didn't come to clean up polpot mess but its own mess included polpot and all the crimes committed to set up another yuon crimes/mess against Khmer till today. What would Cambodia look like now if there is no Khmer struggle and helps from exterior? Seeing the yuons vc horrors and culture domination in Cambodia now even with helps, just can imagine without - Original Message - From: Watkeo Kuma To: camdisc fan Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: RE: Vietnamese MIA: Did they die for Cambodia or for Vietnam? Vietnam die for INDOCHINA FEDERATION and the invasion 1979 an act of clean up after POL POT messy. then 1989 the withdrawal Vietnam troops, but did not withdraw government system. Alot of those missing Vietnam troop, found in refugee camp along Khmer-Thai boader in 1979, and some of those are now living in the third county. (X-Khmer fighter at the boader namely called KBAL KLA, a special force, used to capture them) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:53:44 -0700 Subject: Vietnamese MIA: Did they die for Cambodia or for Vietnam? From: timothych...@aol.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com http://timothychhim.blogspot.com/2011/03/vietnamese-mia-did-they-die-for.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmer Empire division into three Countries due to Khmer separatism
Khmer had no problem with any race, that always be but they have problem with the yuon vc invaders and murderers and all illegal yuons brought to Cambodia through yuon hanoi butchery chain after Angkar cap tren killing millions of Khmer to free land and resources for those illegal yuons @ Yuon-Hanoi bag yr sorry ass and go home Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders ! - Original Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:42 PM Subject: Khmer Empire division into three Countries due to Khmer separatism Cambodian of all nationality are equal before Cambodian law. We Cambodian need to have a perception that separatism divides or fragmentes our Cambodian Nation into Khmer, Yuon, Chen, Champ and several other minonorities. We think that we need fairness among diverse Cambodia's inhabitants that is why we need to accept the official name of our country Kampuchea and its entire people nominated as Chun-Kampuchea as the whole nationalities into one for Samakicheat Kampuchea. If Khmer separatist resists that, it woud be disintegrating yourselves. Look this! Coul you be able to stop your sons and daughters to get marriage with other nationalities, if yes you lie, if no, how about your hybrid grandsons and grand gaughters? Are you going to separating them from your origin Khmer family? If so you fall into Khmer empire that have becoming minority in their own territories. This is the so called against social evolution, or against social integratin. This is why Khmer Surin are now minority of Thai. Khmer krom are minorities of Vietnam. Now if Khmer separatist in Cambodia are continuing to divide yourselves from Cambodian you must be minority Cambodian. I think it sounds confusing to you right? But the reality extists. You will see Cambodian government is going to do some thing that make anyone understand that Chun-Kampuchea is Cambodian in English, and then Khmer, Chen, Yuon, Camp and others in Cambodia are Cambodian of all nationalities. It is wrong to say that all people of Cambodia are Khmer citizens and also it's none sense and none relevance to the name of Kampuchea (Cambodia). Look around in this world, no one did that ridiculous politics, which is in deed a social division. Every country in this world has done the same thing, that is why every governemt has named their citizen in relevance to each country official name. Example: Japan: Japanese, Canada:Canadian, Vietnam:Vietnamese. Camboddia: Cambodian ( Kampuchea: Chun-Kampuchea. Khmer in one nationality of Chun-Kampuchea. Kampuchea. With my best regard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: SUGGESTION DE CORRECTION.pdf
Om bros, Thank for info. Below is an article written by Lok Chau Xeng Ua regards to the truth behind 18 mars event. Lok Chau Xeng Ua, ex Khmer republic minister, is a very respectable intellectual and still alive if anyone or any reporter want to know the truth and fulfill their profession correctly, specially as decent an conscious Khmers, they should check the truth behind each eventrather than report or repeat clean papers or propagandas of Khmer enemies/murderers. If these people are yuons or yuon slaves, yes I can understand their moves but if they claimed as Khmer and want to help Khmer people or Cambodia, I cant understand this kind of suicidal attitude at all. And what this kind of people are different from the rest of who always destroyed and murdered Khmer for yuons. Thank you Bopha Angkor La Vérité sur le Prétendu « Coup d'Etat » du 18 Mars 1970 à Phnom Penh by Chau Xeng Ua (Sources http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/1political%20perso/1chauxengua/1a18Mars70.pdf ) Des journalistes occidentaux et aussi khmers, ainsi que (les auteurs de livres traitant du Cambodge des Khmers rouges ont continué de qualifier la destitution légale duPrince Sihanouk du poste de Chef de l'État de «Coup-d'Etat» (Livre de Ritby Panh avec Christine CHAMEAUX intitulé - « La machine khmère rouge: Monti Santesok S-21 » édité par Flammarion en mars 2003, à la page 19 on lit 1970 : « Coup d'Etat de Lon Nol qui renversa le Pnince Norodom Sihanouk et guerre civile» Or il n'y a jamais eu le «coup l'état » du Maréchal Lon Nol contre le Prince Norodom Sihanouk, mais celui-ci a été destitué de ses fonctions de Chef de l'Etat par un vote unanime ( 92 vois pour, 0 contre et 0 abstention ) du Parlement cambodgien (l'assemblée Nationale et Conseil du Royaume ) comme le dénouement une crise politique que Sihanouk avait lui-même rendu insoluble. Au début de l'année 1970, personne à Phnom Peuh ne songeait à écarter le Prince Sihanouk du pouvoir. C'est plutôt lui qui s'en est écarté en quittant son pays le 6 Janvier 1970 pour une durée indéterminée soi-disant pour aller se faire soigner en France, alors qu'en réalité, il n'était pas du tout malade. Ce jour-là, vers 19 heures, presque personne n'était au courant dut départ du Chef de l'Etat pour l'étranger. Le Prince Sirik Matak m'avait demandé de le rejoindre à l'aéroport de Pochentong. J'avais vu, debout à côté de Sîrik Matak deux autres membres du Gouvernement, M. Op Kim, Ang et Trinh Hoanh. Le prince arrive accompagné de son épouse et d'un petit nombre de membres de son entourage. Il monta dans l'avion faisant un signe d'au revoir de loin aux personnes présentes. Son départ inattendu avait alors ressemblé à une fuite devant des responsabilités qu'il ne voulait pas assumer, le pays étant dans une conjoncture très difficile: situation économique franchement mauvaise et graves inquiétudes causées par l'accroissement important des infiltrations des Vietcong/NVN en territoire khmer. L'absence du Prince Sihanouk se prolongeant, sans aucune indication quant à son retour, le « gouvernement de sauvetage » mis-en place par Sihanouk le 14 Août 1969, devait faire face à de nombreux problèmes. Le plus difficile à résoudre étant celui posé par l'attitude des forces communistes vietnamiennes, bien décidées à conserver et étendre leurs «sanctuaires», dans le pays. Cette attitude étant de plus en plus mal tolérée par l'opinion publique cambodgienne et en particulier par la jeunesse, Au début du mois de Mars (le 8 Mars 1970). des incidents sérieux se produisirent dans la province de Svay Rieng entre la population et les forces communistes vietnamiennes. Trois jours plus tard (11 Mars) des manifestation Anti-vietcong et anti-Hanoi eurent lieu à Phnom Penh aboutissant à la mise à sac des deux Ambassades des communistes vietnamiens. Le jour suivant (12 Mars) le «Gouvernement de Sauvetage », soumis à une forte pression de son opinion publique, demanda à Hanoi et au VC de retirer pour la date du 15 Mars toutes leurs forces infiltré en territoire cambodgien. Le même jour, Sihanouk commentait t une lourde faute, politique et psychologique, en. blâmant très durement les manifestations anti- VC/NVN dans un télégramme adressé à la reine-mère Persuadé que le Prince qui séjournait alors à Paris ne pouvait pas évaluer correctement la situation le Gouvernement décida le 13 Mars de lui envoyer deux émissaires (le prince Norodom Kantol et M.Yem Sambaur, Ministre des Affaires Etrangères) pour l'éclairer sur les évènements qui venaient d'avoir lieu le 8 Mars 1970. J'étais présent à la séance du Conseil des Ministres qui décida d'envoyer ces deux personnalités à Paris, Par là même, le Gouvernement montrait clairement qu'il n'envisageait nullement de déposer le Chef de l'Etat, et qu'il souhaitait au contraire son retour rapide à Phnom Penh. Mais Sihanouk fit savoir qu'il ne recevrait pas
Re: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia
Dear all, What the use for these communists Khmers rouge to get rid of yuon Hanoi or work against yuon Hanoi interest. These communists khmer rouge were created, topped and maintained to power to works for yuon Hanoi Indochina federation and work for yuon Hanoi is to kill Khmer and destroy Cambodia for yuon Hanoi. This is what happened since polpot time. Trying to converse these communists Khmer rouge to work for Khmer or against yuon Hanoi will be a pure hazard and a waste of time because it will never happen. These neo communists khmer rouge scared to share same destiny like their comrades polpot, tamok ect. If Khmer people want to live free one day, they should not wait to for these communists khmer rouge yuon slaves to change or work for Khmer interest because it will never happen. - Original Message - From: Watkeo Kuma To: camdisc fan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:03 PM Subject: RE: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia នេះមិនមែនជារឿងថ្មីថ្មោងទេ ខ្មែរក្នុងខ្មែរក្រៅសុទ្ធតែបានដឹងដែរ គ្រាន់តែអ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរ កំពុងពុលនិងអំឧត្តមគតិរំលាយស្រុកខ្លួនឬយ៉ាងណា វាអាស្រ័យលើខ្មែរគ្រប់រូប មានអំណាចពិតឬអត់តែប៉ុណ្តោះ។ -- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:31:10 -0800 From: kulen_mono...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Fw: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia To: camdisc@googlegroups.com; timothych...@aol.com; amekh...@free.fr; chaub...@hotmail.com; baph...@aol.com; bophaang...@free.fr; nokore...@hotmail.com; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com; seanghun.s...@parker.com; kamakani...@yahoo.com; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com; bengem...@aol.com; bora.to...@gmail.com; cabi...@norodomsihamoni.org; cabi...@norodomsihanouk.info; cambodiat...@yahoo.com; camnews...@gmail.com; davan.l...@gmail.com; dalyn_...@yahoo.com; theary.s...@gmail.com; vannak.du...@free.fr; entry_me...@yahoo.com; he...@soas.ac.uk; incamd...@yahoo.com; jeyvar...@yahoo.com; k_t...@yahoo.com; kansaeng...@gmail.com; karunah...@yahoo.fr; kenneth.aryasa...@gmail.com; khamtr...@mailcity.com; lonr...@gmail.com; khoeu...@yahoo.com; m...@globe.com; meas.samb...@gmail.com; mpr...@sbcglobal.net; michael.pp...@online.com.kh; monib...@gmail.com; peangm...@yahoo.com; pengse.s...@chello.fr; piseth_k...@hotmail.com; pvi...@aol.com; suykryp...@mchsi.com; richt...@rfa.org; rithyk...@gamail.com; sournra...@hotmai.com; sakhonn.c...@yahoo.com; sambo...@yahoo.com; samnga...@yahoo.com; samrainsypa...@googlegroups.com; santh...@yahoo.com; samady...@gmail.com; sournsereyra...@gmail.com; sounsereyra...@yahoo.com; un...@westnet.com.au; usemba...@camnet.com.au; user344...@aol.com; uysarin2...@yahoo.com; vichea...@yahoo.com; vsam...@gmail.com; chau.xen...@free.fr; yin...@yahoo.fr; yem...@yahoo.fr CC: kulen_mono...@yahoo.com.au Dear all Khmer compatriots, I am in Cambodia right now, and very painfull to see YUON colonizing our beloved Cambodia. The Royal Cambodian Government screams about Thai in Preah Vihear alone while they let YUON planting concrete border posts with their full cooperation. Beside this painfull experience YUON are continue to walk in freely to settle in Cambodia. May the Lord bless our Cambodia soon. Or may all Khmer inside and outside Cambodia rescue Cambodia from YUON swallowing. Regards, Kulen Monorom (The rice farmer's son) --- On Wed, 9/3/11, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Received: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011, 7:55 AM http://timothychhim.blogspot.com/2011/03/learn-about-our-neighbors-vietnamese.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options,
Re: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia
This is the result of peace and stability policy and democratic process wanted by yuons and international community fully played by cpp and srp. How many time we tried to call srp about this mortal danger for Khmer to participate in this process with yuon Hanoi/cpp instead of doing something else. The last Khmer resource rest had been mess up by srp on wrong battle fight. Or perhaps it is also wanted by srp. Now these invaders/yuon illegal migrants can thank to communist khmer rouge cpp and srp as well. - Original Message - From: KULEN MONOROM To: CAMDISC GOOGLEGROUPS ; timothych...@aol.com ; amekh...@free.fr ; : ; baph...@aol.com ; bophaang...@free.fr ; nokore...@hotmail.com ; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com ; SEANG HUN ; seang soun ; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com ; bengem...@aol.com ; bora.to...@gmail.com ; cabi...@norodomsihamoni.org ; cabi...@norodomsihanouk.info ; cambodiat...@yahoo.com ; camnews...@gmail.com ; davan.l...@gmail.com ; dalyn_...@yahoo.com ; theary.s...@gmail.com ; VANNAK DUONG ; entry_me...@yahoo.com ; he...@soas.ac.uk ; incamd...@yahoo.com ; jeyvar...@yahoo.com ; k_t...@yahoo.com ; kansaeng...@gmail.com ; karunah...@yahoo.fr ; kenneth.aryasa...@gmail.com ; khamtr...@mailcity.com ; lonr...@gmail.com ; Chhoeung Khoeung ; m...@globe.com ; meas.samb...@gmail.com ; mpr...@sbcglobal.net ; michael.pp...@online.com.kh ; monib...@gmail.com ; peangm...@yahoo.com ; pengse.s...@chello.fr ; piseth_k...@hotmail.com ; pvi...@aol.com ; suykry path ; richt...@rfa.org ; rithyk...@gamail.com ; RATHA SOURN ; sakhonn chak ; sambo...@yahoo.com ; samnga...@yahoo.com ; samrainsypa...@googlegroups.com ; santh...@yahoo.com ; samady...@gmail.com ; sournsereyra...@gmail.com ; sounsereyra...@yahoo.com ; BUN ANG UNG ; usemba...@camnet.com.au ; user344...@aol.com ; uysarin2...@yahoo.com ; vichea...@yahoo.com ; vsam...@gmail.com ; XENGUA CHAU ; yin...@yahoo.fr ; yem...@yahoo.fr Cc: KULEN MONOROM Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:31 AM Subject: Fw: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia Dear all Khmer compatriots, I am in Cambodia right now, and very painfull to see YUON colonizing our beloved Cambodia. The Royal Cambodian Government screams about Thai in Preah Vihear alone while they let YUON planting concrete border posts with their full cooperation. Beside this painfull experience YUON are continue to walk in freely to settle in Cambodia. May the Lord bless our Cambodia soon. Or may all Khmer inside and outside Cambodia rescue Cambodia from YUON swallowing. Regards, Kulen Monorom (The rice farmer's son) --- On Wed, 9/3/11, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Learn About Our Neighbors: Vietnamese Residents Association in Cambodia To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Received: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011, 7:55 AM http://timothychhim.blogspot.com/2011/03/learn-about-our-neighbors-vietnamese.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Learn to use words, thoughts well
Great and interesting one! Pheak Khmer tha, putt krou kom trab chrab krou oay youk. What do you think about it? Or in the contrary, should Krou or Achar seeds example before allow to teach other? I often wonder if Krou or Achar can understand what they were preaching or just repeating something they cant even understand their own since most of their time, not to say all, their acts never follow their teaching at all. Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: PuppyXpress To: camdisc Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:25 PM Subject: Learn to use words, thoughts well -- Forwarded message -- From: Gaffar Peang-Meth peangm...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 9:39 AM Subject: Learn to use words, thoughts well To: PACIFIC DAILY NEWS March 9, 2011 Learn to use words, thoughts well Written by A. Gaffar Peang-Meth I write often that a thesis and antithesis come as a pair, they interact. Given time, a synthesis would result; this gives rise to a new thesis and new antitheses, similar to the two interdependent energies, the yin and the yang, energies that cannot exist without one another as their interactions cause everything to happen. Buddhists believe when there's life, there's death; when there's happiness, there's suffering. Thus night follows day and day follows night; happiness follows suffering; after death, there is rebirth. The Samsara wheel of life turns and turns. What goes around comes around. Thesis-antithesis, yin-yang interactions can bring tension and conflict. People have different opinions, perceptions, beliefs. Disagreement is natural. Disputes can be avoided by giving some space to humility -- consideration of others' views and feelings which is the foundation of many virtues -- and avoiding hotheaded, disagreeable reactions. In my teaching career, I used the concept of individual actions influenced by experiences-values-beliefs-information; I taught students to reach for high principles and apply them. Choosing words It's been my own experience that bloggers who hide behind anonymous postings, spewing venomous comments on the Internet, operate from misconceptions and misunderstandings. In my article last week, I quoted workshop facilitator Leslie Aguilar's call to pay attention to our words and behavior, because, more than being politically correct, it's about being professionally competent and politically conscious, it's about being human: It's about respect. Today, I found The Leadership and Learning Center's professional development associate Stephen Ventura's Basic Training in RESPECT worthy to learn: R is to recognize every human being's inherent worth; E, to eliminate derogatory words and phrases from our vocabulary; S is to speak with, and not at, or about, people; P is to practice empathy through walking in others' shoes for a while; E is to earn respect through respect-worthy behaviors; C is to consider others' feelings before speaking and behaving; and T is to treat every person with dignity and courtesy. Some 2,500 years ago, Lord Gautama Buddha preached: Whatever words we utter should be chosen with care, for people will hear them and be influenced by them for good or ill. And the great Chinese thinker, Confucius, taught, Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts? Critical thinking Some readers thought that it is mere cliché that I referenced so often the terms critical thinking in my writings. No, it is not cliché. Critical thinking does not only determine our future, but it is essential for humanity's survival. Yes, every person thinks and has opinion but, no, not every thinking is of the same quality. An opinion that is fleeting is not the same as a careful thought. Buddha's precepts -- We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think and What we think, we become -- taught us that if we engage endlessly in negative thoughts of others, gossiping and throwing venomous words, we are not only creating a hostile angry world, but we become the image of what we think. And since we are creatures of habit and of self-piloted, fossilized responses, perhaps we need to better understand and follow the great critical thinker's preaching: Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it. Buddha, a critical thinker more
Re: Mean Tae Padevatt Nis Te! (by Sék Serei)
បដិវត្តិផ្កាម្លិះខ្មែរគឺជាការផ្តល់កិត្តិយសនិងរំលឹកដល់ខ្មែរអង្គរដែលនិយមប្រើប្រាស់ផ្កាម្លិះជាគ្រឿងបូជានិងលំអរកាយ ។ តាមលោក អង់ដ្រេមីហ្គូ ខ្មែរអង្គរស្ទើរតែទាំងអស់ ជាពិសេសក្សត្រាក្សត្រីនិយមបួងសក់ទៅក្រោយលំអរដោយកម្រងផ្កាម្លិះរយីងរយោង ។ នៅតាមភូមិឋានខ្មែរ បូរាណគេនិយមដាំដើមម្លិះនៅមាត់អណ្តូងឮមាត់ជណ្តើរក្បែរពាងទឹក ហើយគេតែងបេះផ្កាម្លិះអប់ទឹកសម្រាប់បរិភោគ មានផ្តិលឬត្រឡោកក្បែរពាងទឹកសម្រាប់ម្ចាស់ផ្ទះ និងភ្ញៀវជិតឆ្ងាយ ។ ទាំងនេះបញ្ជាក់អោយឃើញថា ខ្មែរបុពេមានសន្តានចិត្តប្រពៃគូរ កោតសសើរពន់ពេកណាស់ សមដូចពាក្យលោកសូក្រាតពោលថា ពូជសាសន៏ល្អគឺជាពូជសាសន៏ដែលប្រកដដោយអធ្យាស្រយ័និងសន្តានចិត្តល្អ បើមាននរណាសុំអ្វីមួយមិនត្រឹមតែអោយរបស់ដែលគេសុំនោះទេ តែតែងផ្តល់អ្វីផ្សេងបន្ថែមទៀត - តែក៏មិនអនុញ្ញាតិអោយអំពើអបាយមុខ ឬជនជាតិអាក្រក់ជួរជាតិណាមួយមកជិះជាន់បានដែរ ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ - Original Message - From: Vichea Sam To: Camdisc Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Mean Tae Padevatt Nis Te! (by Sék Serei) Please see attachment. Thanks, V.S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Foreigner in Cambodia
Just to remind that Yuons in Cambodia are not legal migrants. They had not been accepted legally by Khmer people or Khmer legal institutions elected legally by Khmer people but by a regime imposed by yuon Hanoi to serve its expansionist and genocidal policy against Cambodia and Cambodian people. So those millions yuons in Cambodia are all illegal scripts. They are aggressor and invaders and not legal migrants. They had been imported successively to Cambodia by Hanoi and its puppet government cpp after the Vietcong/khmer rouge had massacred more than three millions Khmer people to free land and resources for those yuons. Those yuons had been imported to Cambodia to replace Khmer people killed by secret Angkar leu (cap tren) during the kill filed, K5 and more.. - Original Message - From: Savun incamd...@yahoo.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Foreigner in Cambodia In the past 15 years they had been breed with multiple races. Other than Youn. period! Savun On Feb 22, 2011, at 5:39 AM, Domthmor tim.inf...@gmail.com wrote: Any things about foreigner in Cambodia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Kampuchea Damnoeur Tov LICH (by Sam Vichea)
Lok Kith Mean, I cant read your Khmer writing on the bloc that was not been wrote in Khmer Unicode. I have to warn you that, there are pictures/icons in your bloc that are EXTREMILY VULGAR which should not show up in public. You should rather shut up that bloc. Regarding to your books that have to publish I know that there are a bunch of books that have been published without authorization of Phnom penh regime and the publication is much cheaper than while it is done abroad. The other way to do is, you can share them with public on the net in PDF. If you need people to pay for your works or propriety rights then we can talk on it but the books have to be merited. You can send them to me in PDF to be verified and we can talk then. Kind regard Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Kith Mean To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Kampuchea Damnoeur Tov LICH (by Sam Vichea) Dear Ms/Sir, Those books are about the history of Cambodia, and They are written by a person who had been involoved in the event. But now he is dead. And there are a lot of the proof shown in the books. This can not be published in Cambodia because they will affect the east country and some leaders in Cambodia. This is not a critism but the even happened. Thanks On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Dear Lok Kith Mean, What are those books about? Can you please share more about those books. For what reasons they cant publish in Cambodia? Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Kith Mean To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:04 AM Subject: Re: Kampuchea Damnoeur Tov LICH (by Sam Vichea) Dear Sir, I am living in Cambodia now. I would like to discuss with you about publishing history books in Khmer that I and a man has written for many years but can not publish in Cambodia. Thanks On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Vichea Sam vsam...@gmail.com wrote: Please see attachment. Thanks, V.S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Kampuchea Damnoeur Tov LICH (by Sam Vichea)
Dear Lok Kith Mean, What are those books about? Can you please share more about those books. For what reasons they cant publish in Cambodia? Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Kith Mean To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:04 AM Subject: Re: Kampuchea Damnoeur Tov LICH (by Sam Vichea) Dear Sir, I am living in Cambodia now. I would like to discuss with you about publishing history books in Khmer that I and a man has written for many years but can not publish in Cambodia. Thanks On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Vichea Sam vsam...@gmail.com wrote: Please see attachment. Thanks, V.S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Preah Vihear: Rally in Washington State, Saturday 12th, 2011
@ Yuon-Hanoi bag yr sorry ass and go home Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders ! - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: Preah Vihear: Rally in Washington State, Saturday 12th, 2011 You have forgotten something. Khmer Rouge used Thailand soil to advance their fight against their own people in their own country, Cambodia. Freedom fighters did the same thing. Sihanouk did the same thing. Thailand was a good friend then. Now Thailand is an enemy. What has been happening? On Feb 10, 4:35 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Dont you forgot someting Pou ? Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders ! - Original Message - From: sacrava To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: CPP ; Human Rights Party ; Keat Chhon ; Norodom Rannariddh ; Norodom Sihanouk ; PPPost ; S ; Sa ; Sok An ; SRP Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Preah Vihear: Rally in Washington State, Saturday 12th, 2011 My suggestion to the rally commitee in Seattle,a few words adding : Yuon-Hanoi Go Home ! Cheers, Ung Bun Heang One of the Banners’ slogans for rally Saturday 12th, 2011 CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN! STOP THAILAND INVASION TO CAMBODIA NOW! PRESIDENT OBAMA STOP THAILAND NOW! SECRETARY CLINTON ACT NOW! ---- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more -http://www.cambodia.org- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Congratulations to the people of Egypt
Good that you recognize yourself as ah sot trot. Ah sot trot never change, always ah sot trot even though to come after. Frenchis tha, Crime avoué, crime à moitie pardonné Khmer should not only get rid of yuons Hanoi or Khmer rouge but also bunch of ah sot trot chaol mseat who had nothing to do better in their life than sucking, bashing and destroy - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:06 PM Subject: Re: Congratulations to the people of Egypt There is unity among khmers without Samdech Decho Hun Sen the kingdom is going to be destabilized, disarray, anarchy and more divided. You must understand Sankum Khmer today is different from before . The whole social fabric of Sangkum Khmer is broken from the lowest to the highest . Who is fit to lead this new Sangkum ? Not royalist nor opposition group, only newly created aristocratic family of Hun dynasty and his associates can lead this country. We know Siam Min Chol Khbuon and Yuon Mil Chol Put but as Khmer we are Sot Trot we only know how to divide among ourself. On Feb 11, 1:32 pm, Khoar Chev kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: Congratulations to the Egypt people! Mubarak finally have resigned, CHOH KHMER YEUNG? TEUH NEUV DEK LUORK DAUCH KOL OAS DOL NAH TEAT? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110211/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Preah Vihear: Rally in Washington State, Saturday 12th, 2011
Dont you forgot someting Pou ? Yuon-Hanoi take back Khmer rouge and Go Home ! End Khmero-yuon-hanoi fascism in Cambodia ! Free Cambodian people from the Nazis Yuon Hahoi, the ever Genociders ! - Original Message - From: sacrava To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Cc: CPP ; Human Rights Party ; Keat Chhon ; Norodom Rannariddh ; Norodom Sihanouk ; PPPost ; S ; Sa ; Sok An ; SRP Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:09 AM Subject: Re: Preah Vihear: Rally in Washington State, Saturday 12th, 2011 My suggestion to the rally commitee in Seattle,a few words adding : Yuon-Hanoi Go Home ! Cheers, Ung Bun Heang One of the Banners’ slogans for rally Saturday 12th, 2011 CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN! STOP THAILAND INVASION TO CAMBODIA NOW! PRESIDENT OBAMA STOP THAILAND NOW! SECRETARY CLINTON ACT NOW! Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Many Thai-Cambodian soldiers killed during clashes
Cpp regime can use legal rights to resolve Prah vihear and border conflicts with Siamese and yuon vc but I dont think that cpp/yuons want to resolve the conflicts legally. These ever cool blood murderers prefer to massacre more Khmer people to free more land and resources for yuon vc needs. I'm wondering when while these people stop to die for yuons and try to get rid of yuons/khmer rouge domination to live free as other people of this planet. - Original Message - From: khmerization junior To: HANG Vibol Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: Many Thai-Cambodian soldiers killed during clashes Latest: 16 Thais killed, 26 wounded and 4 captured [unconfirmed] Preah Vihear temple suffered significant damages by Thai shells Latest: One Cambodian soldier killed and 5 wounded, 7 Thai soldiers killed and many wounded in clashes near Preah Vihear temple Please visit www.khmerization.blogspot.com to watch videos, see pictures and read the many articles about the fighting. -- Khmerization is a blog about Khmer news. If you are seeking for any Khmer news or news about Cambodia, Khmerization's got it all. visit http://www.khmerization.blogspot.com. You won't be disappointed. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: តើព័ត៌មានស្រុកខ្មែរអាចយកជាការបាន?
Lok Samedy and all, I'm wondering if we can call current Cambodian media as a media to inform or educate Khmer public. It sounds much like average communist machine of propagandas of those who own the power. All are arbitrated for glory of the regime, not much different from the polpot time beside some liaise of culture. Even while a IV regime try to arrange a debate in the name of the so called democracy, the rules of tyrants are omit present which make the participants look like a bunch of monkeys. All these oddness and idiocy reflect well what going on in Cambodia. As long as international community still keeps these tyrants and killers, Khmer rouge/Vietcong in power, Cambodia will go no where but deep down in the yuon vc hell. For now the cpp/vc will do everything in their power to make run a truth-false democracy in Cambodia for the benefice of yuon vc while continue to repress and kill Khmer people in anyway they can, poverty, poor health cares, poor nutrition, food and health poisoning… etc While Khmer people will become minority in their own home land, the yuon vc will eliminated even those they had used to kill Khmer people then these yuons vc can restore a real democracy. It is what’s happened in Ivory Coast. - Original Message - From: Samady KS samady...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:51 AM Subject: តើព័ត៌មានស្រុកខ្មែរអាចយកជាការបាន? ជាការពិតណាស់ក្នុងនាមខ្ញុំជាយុវជនខ្មែរដែលមិនសូវដឹងអំពី នយោបាយស្រុកខ្មែរប៉ុន្មានទេ អ្វីដែលខ្ញុំចូលចិត្តនោះគឺ ព័ត៌មាន ដែលពាក់ព័ន្ធទៅនឹងការអភិវឌ្ឍន៍ ពិសេសទៅទៀតគឺ វិស័យអប់រំតែ ម្ដង។ តាមធម្មតាខ្ញុំបានសង្កេតឃើញថាព័ត៌មានស្រុកខ្មែរយើង -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Fw: No One Has The Monopoly On Cambodian Patriotism
Cher Pou, Je crois que ces yuon vc ne pensent pas que le Cambodge sera sous leurs crottins de pieds un jour mais c'était déjà le cas depuis un bout de temps comme vous pouvez constater ici et ailleurs. Raisons les quelles ces yuon vc se croient tout permettre, des spam, des vc propagandes, des insultes de tout genre qui flouent sans cesse…cela prouve la nature psychopathique et tyrannique pieux de ces yuon vc, des terribles sociopathes de souffre par nature et renforcés par une vision (culture) assez effrayante .. A bientôt Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Krakmo Kaing To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: RE: Fw: No One Has The Monopoly On Cambodian Patriotism C’est vraiment étrange ce monsieur Chen Kat Yuon et en plus je me demande si ce monsieur lise khmer writing. Je me demande également pourquoi il s’intéresse aux affaires politiques au Cambodge ?. C’est parce qu’il pense un jour ce pays, le Cambodge, sera sous ses pieds ?. Merde à Chamkuot ! De : camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camdisc@googlegroups.com] De la part de Material veda07 Envoyé : jeudi 13 janvier 2011 09:06 À : camdisc@googlegroups.com Objet : Re: Fw: No One Has The Monopoly On Cambodian Patriotism aa khmer rouge vcon race euy aaa khmer rouge vcon race vcon, pouch aa saat ruy aeng iy kor chhlat mless , chhlat nass … Yes, sound like ya forget to write the whole title of ya wonderful vcon race. the right title shd be low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE VCON race Yep Khmer rouge = VCOM RACE et vcon trashes that killed, ate, shit and trashed on cambodia and people around over decades and continue to eat, shit its kind, trashes and culture, mess up over Cambo and so on Up with ya low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE VCON race culture and killin over cambod and pp around, that is --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Fw: No One Has The Monopoly On Cambodian Patriotism To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 2:03 AM sound like the low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race smell its da own hate out fom the hell inside it own. yep the low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race like to eat, shit, mess up, spite on other p ppl head, in other houses or it is racism or hater or else. That's da song and culture of da low-life-barbaric- hater KHMER ROUGE race. more da low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race can kill and mess up other more ya low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race can get more land to eat, shit, spite and mess up people around. how long da low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race have been doing that, 50 OR 60 years back or it is always that while da low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race get out from ya mama womb? Yep, truth hurts and that truth is eating ya low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race from inside if ya low-life-barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race still has some humain feelings inside ya poor barbaric-hater KHMER ROUGE race soul On Jan 12, 12:17 pm, Material veda07 mved...@yahoo.com wrote: sound like the low-life-barbaric-hater race smell its da own hate out fom the hell inside it own. yep the low-life-barbaric-hater race like to eat, shit, mess up, spite on other p ppl head, in other houses or it is racism or hater or else. That's da song and culture of da low-life-barbaric-hater race. more da low-life-barbaric-hater race can kill and mess up other more ya low-life-barbaric-hater race can get more land to eat, shit, spite and mess up people around. how long da low-life-barbaric-hater vcon race have been doing that, one or two thousands years back or it is always that while da low-life-barbaric-hater race get out from ya mama womb? Yep, truth hurts and that truth is eating ya low-life-barbaric-hater race from inside if ya low-life-barbaric-hater race still has some humain feelings inside ya poor barbaric-hater race soul - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:31 PM Subject: Re: No One Has The Monopoly On Cambodian Patriotism pouch aa saat ruy meant only low-life-barbaric-hater race had monopole to do anything over cambodia, eat, sh*t and killing On Jan 11, 7:39 am, Material veda07 mved...@yahoo.com wrote: pouch aa saat ruy
Re: [RepublicofCambodia] Apprentis historiens [1 Attachment]
Voilà une opinion intéressante, respectant et respectable. Même vous ne mettez pas votre petit nom à la fin du texte, je crois ne pas me tromper sur votre identité Om Bros. Mais je trouve dommage parfois que les gens biens doivent se cacher pour se revendiquer avec peu de résultat quand l'autres s'affrichent avec haine et sans honte leur gros titre pour en convaincre. J'ai la ferme conviction que l'apparition des surnommés « khmer rouge » à la place « des vietminh » voulu par les yuon vc après l'accord de Paris en 1973 n'était une stratégie, une mascarade de la part des yunos vc pour se conformer à cette accord avec USA et la France (en particulier) sur la scène internationale. Ils voulaient faire croire qu'ils sont partis comme cela prévu par l'accord alors qu'ils n'étaient jamais vraiment partis mais juste camouflés dans la peaux de soit disant « khmer rouge » Parfois ces yuons vc jouaient même la scène de ménage avec polpot et ses camardes pour convaincre de leur bonne volonté. Les yuon vc n'ont rien à perdre de cette stratégie mais tirer bien des intérêts immenses. Polpot comme sihanouk n'ont rien à dire si non se plier à la volonté de ces yuons vc. De tout façon, ils n'ont ni les moyens ni la volonté d'opposer à leur maitres vc. Polot, sihanouk comme Mr Pen Sovann et leurs autre camards ont été mis sur le trône par les yuons vc pour les servir. USA, la France et les autres qui ont aidé les khmers rouges, yuons vc à leur victoire ultime d'une façon ou une autre n'ont rien à gagner à se revendiquer des crottés des yuons vc au Cambodge et au Laos. Pour répondre au dernier paragraphe de votre message, je crois qu'il n'y pas seulement l'ignorance, la mangue d'information ou la manque d'éducation qui nous empêchent de voir ces criminels, ces assassins de tous les temps dans leur forme réelle. Mais il y surtout les conflits intérêts indéniables entre les différents partis qui sont au pouvoir ou sont influençables dans la société khmère et qui n'ont rien à gagner de défendre le peuple khmer ou la mémoire de leur victimes. Histoire qui écrient ou inventent par les vainqueurs et leur complices est rouge de sang de leur victimes. Elle n'est pas là pour préserver histoire elle-même ni la mémoire des victimes mais bien à la gloire des vainqueurs, assassins et brigands des bas-fonds. Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Anthony Ly To: republicofcambo...@yahoogroups.com ; cambodia-digital-cen...@googlegroups.com ; kilett...@gmail.com Cc: roy_cab_beij...@yahoo.com ; cabi...@norodomsihanouk.info ; cabine...@camnet.com.kh ; cabi...@norodomsihamoni.org ; sr...@online.com.kh ; srp...@comcast.net ; c...@camnet.com.kh ; y...@iai.spk-berlin.de ; visso...@hotmail.com ; v...@free.fr ; ssv...@yahoo.com ; yoe...@yahoo.com ; chal...@wanadoo.fr ; uysarin2...@yahoo.com ; nokore...@hotmail.com ; hoksa...@yahoo.com ; sakhonn.c...@yahoo.com ; david@boeing.com ; sonando...@yahoo.com ; kemso...@yahoo.com ; justice2kh...@yahoo.com ; aryasa...@rocketmail.com ; vacheahranoro...@hotmail.com ; soc...@hotmail.com ; hak...@hotmail.com ; monhkh...@hotmail.fr ; tuonm...@yahoo.com ; son.samr...@yahoo.com ; sonch...@yahoo.com ; srph...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: [RepublicofCambodia] Apprentis historiens [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Anthony Ly included below] Please see attachment. Thanks, Ly Diep __._,_.___ Attachment(s) from Anthony Ly 1 of 1 File(s) LES APPRENTIS.pdf Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. __,_._,___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Failed State Mirrored by the Applied Dhamma
Lok Sophan and other, I respect you and other people rights of belief but did you ever hear about laicity, atheism or free thinking line. Here few sites I wish to share. http://www.laicite.org/ http://atheisme.free.fr/ http://www.laicite-republique.org/ http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/nontheism/atheism/debates.html My point is not to interdict you or anyone to believe your religion or whatever you want to but just to remind that monothinking is reducible and so dangerous. It can turn against you than helps. For long time yuons and others did use religion against Khmer and to kill Khmer specially by the vietcong/khmer rouge. Handle religion in our advantage is a lost causes because Khmers are far behind yuons tricks and strategies in this field. To say that Buddhism is a tradition of Khmer or a Khmer culture or identity is not totally right (not to say WRONG). First because foundation of Khmer civilisation, identity and power is based on Hinduism and not Buddhism, even Buddhism and other beliefs were largely tolerated and lived with one another in harmony during those periods. Second, during the religious revolution (with Buddhism imported from siam) which went from 14th century to 18 century, Buddhists (with helps of foreigners/invaders) did massacred a lots of Khmer Indus to auto proclaimed and imposed as their religion as the only legitimated state religion till today while continue to massacre Khmer Indus at least till 18th century. I see Khmer Buddhism rather as the reducible culture of trosaok phaem dynasty and its people and nothing else. Buddhism during Khmer saint war (religious revolution) and Buddhism of Khmer rouge/vietcong, both are bloody and not less criminals than one another. Now the neo khmer rouge with their Vietcong masters still use Buddhism and other religions to reduce Khmer people to nothing. And if you don't search other doors to get out you will condemned to be that nothing by your enemies. Some of you may find this kind of thinking is somewhat weird, newbie or frightening for Khmer society. I'm theist, I assure you. But I'm not alone to dream that human can live or invent a society where laws and individual rights can cohabite in a harmonic osmosis, Platoon did dream before me - a society where everyone is equal in front of laws all by respecting individual rights (including rights of belief of each individual) - where non cant impose one thinking, theory or religion in a tyrannical meant but in some democratic ways - proved that you or your theory is best than others so merit to be considered from the rest. Can Khmers stand united for the common causes or national causes without that that artifice which is religion or Buddhism? That's the big question. Regards Bopha Angkor Khmer rouge as yuon revolutions and policy to overcome its expansionist and genocidal policy over Laos and Cambodia http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html - Original Message - From: S. Sophan To: Cambodian Community of Canada Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:56 AM Subject: Failed State Mirrored by the Applied Dhamma Failed State Mirrored by the Buddha's Applied Teachings Dear Koun Khmer et al; I am grateful for your knowledge sharing in this blog forum. Lord Buddha said knowledge contribution (dana) will surpass all other contributions or Sabba Danam Dhamma Danam Jinati in Pali. I have read all your articles for public discussion in here with attention and prestige. Failed state theory has been broadly defined by scholars in the enlightenment era and this post cold-war transition. The attributions rest upon the affect of two rival ideologies: democracy and communism. This approach might be best described on the external observation of the failed states researchers. However, I totally agree with the definition of failed state that falls upon its failed leadership and people liberation. I am fully affected by the teaching of liberation particularly individual liberation to reach Enlightenment by the Buddha, and this teaching has been well applied to the modern enlightening world. This is not different from failed state index 2010 posted by The Foreign Policy. In general, Cambodia is better than Burma and Lao in its 42 range, but Cambodia has been categorized by high scores in its documentation of demographic pressures, delegitimization of the state, and public service. Demographically speaking, Cambodia is facing with youth bulk in recent statistic revelation by NGOs. More than half of Cambodian population is under age of 20 years old (pactcambodia). They are struggling to seek a better life by hunting for career opportunities; they are very different from their elders in both critical thinking and belief. They can be boon for government to heighten their strength as well as they can be the powerful agent
Remember yuon genocides
Dear all, Remember 7 January as yuon colonization day preceding the 17 April 75, It is important to remember in this saddest day of Khmer people to which yuons had officially colonized Cambodia after having setting a bloody mass killing regime against Khmer people to free land and resources for yuons. 7 January is logic coming date programmed by yuons following the yuons victory date over Cambodia the 17 april 1975. Remember well, killing Khmer people to colonize Cambodia is not just happen 17 April or 7 January but yuons did led numerous horrors and genocide against Khmer people to rob their land and resources in the past 4 century (from 17th century). One of the worse genocide (before 17 April) committed against Khmer by yuons was the one at the middle and end of 19 century. My thoughtful thinking today is for all the victims of yuons hate, yuon terrors and atrocities of all period including the Chams and Khmer Krom people. Bopha Angkor http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html - Original Message - From: Nokoreach To: samleng_khmernational...@yahoo.com ; samlengkaunkh...@yahoo.com ; sam...@lesjeuneskhmers.com ; khmer.sralanh.kh...@gmail.com ; khmerepub...@yahoo.com ; khmereli...@free.fr ; khmeryo...@gmail.com ; khmerizat...@gmail.com ; Ratana Yoeng ; khmer.citiz...@gmail.com ; khmeryouthn...@yahoo.com ; infos.kh...@gmail.com ; i...@ksemksan.org ; i...@ccc-cambodia.org ; i...@csdcambodia.org ; i...@fpmonline.net ; i...@cjr-cambodia.org ; press...@gmail.com ; ch...@forum.org.kh ; informat...@cambodia.gov.kh ; informat...@information.gov.kh ; director@online.com.kh ; ckimh...@yahoo.com ; c...@online.com.kh ; cycen...@gmail.com ; kya_off...@yahoo.com ; ycc_secretar...@yahoo.com ; lindakkk...@yahoo.com ; kkkyoe...@yahoo.com ; kkcpressoff...@yahoo.com ; t...@camnet.com.kh ; tcn...@online.com.kh ; redact...@ledevoir.com ; dapn...@gmail.com ; funcinpecme...@yahoo.com ; s.k.k.cabi...@camnet.com.kh ; ad...@forum.org.kh ; licadhom...@gmail.com ; comf...@online.com.kh ; hrpcambo...@yahoo.com ; c...@camnet.com.kh ; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com ; sa...@online.com.kh ; Hang Puthea ; sokleangc...@yahoo.com ; nychak...@yahoo.com ; Meach Sovannara The Khmer Post ; sounsereyra...@yahoo.com ; viraky...@yahoo.com ; virak...@yahoo.com ; ou_chanr...@yahoo.com ; drsamb...@verizon.net ; kemso...@yahoo.com ; sonch...@gmail.com ; soc...@hotmail.com ; socheat_...@yahoo.com ; sukun_k...@yahoo.com ; chak.saro...@yahoo.com ; chaksoph...@yahoo.com ; chak.so...@cchrcambodia.org ; mohari...@yahoo.com ; iengsit...@yahoo.com ; buntho...@cchrcambodia.org ; sav...@cchrcambodia.org ; darav...@vodradio.org ; no...@vodradio.org ; sophak2...@gmail.com ; sambovannar...@yahoo.com ; nuon_sothi...@hotmail.com ; luda...@hotmail.com ; theary.s...@gmail.com ; sivnin@gmail.com ; th...@cchrcambodia.org ; se...@csdcambodia.org ; sokun...@csdcambodia.org ; s.thom...@gmail.com ; Sorn Chey ; moeu...@hotmail.com ; mo...@everyday.com.kh ; Moeun Tola ; kim-ya@wanadoo.fr ; Rithy Komar ; Hach KimSoeun ; kimsour.to...@free.fr ; hangcha...@yahoo.com ; chea_kim...@yahoo.com ; puy...@online.com.kh ; sothanar...@yahoo.com ; vandy_...@yahoo.com ; chal...@wanadoo.fr ; c...@wanadoo.fr ; v...@free.fr ; i...@interior.gov.kh Cc: cabi...@norodomsihanouk.info ; cabi...@norodomsihamoni.org ; roy_cab_beij...@yahoo.com ; cabine...@camnet.com.kh ; camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Qui est le fondateur du front de libération du 2 Décembre ..pdf Please see pdf file in Khmer attached (Samleng Khmers natuionalistes) Nokoreach - Original Message - From: Nokoreach To: samleng_khmernational...@yahoo.com ; samlengkaunkh...@yahoo.com ; sam...@lesjeuneskhmers.com ; khmer.sralanh.kh...@gmail.com ; killett...@gmail.com ; khmerepub...@yahoo.com ; khmereli...@free.fr ; khmeryo...@gmail.com ; khmerizat...@gmail.com ; Ratana Yoeng ; khmer.citiz...@gmail.com ; khmeryouthn...@yahoo.com ; infos.kh...@gmail.com ; i...@ksemksan.org ; i...@ccc-cambodia.org ; i...@csdcambodia.org ; i...@fpmonline.net ; i...@cjr-cambodia.org ; press...@gmail.com ; ch...@forum.org.kh ; informat...@cambodia.gov.kh ; informat...@information.gov.kh ; director@online.com.kh ; ckimh...@yahoo.com ; c...@online.com.kh ; cycen...@gmail.com ; kya_off...@yahoo.com ; ycc_secretar...@yahoo.com ; lindakkk...@yahoo.com ; kkkyoe...@yahoo.com ; kkcpressoff...@yahoo.com ; t...@camnet.com.kh ; tcn...@online.com.kh ; redact...@ledevoir.com ; dapn...@gmail.com ; funcinpecme...@yahoo.com ; s.k.k.cabi...@camnet.com.kh ; ad...@forum.org.kh ; licadhom...@gmail.com ; comf...@online.com.kh ; hrpcambo...@yahoo.com ; c...@camnet.com.kh ; angkorboreine...@yahoo.com ; sa...@online.com.kh ; Hang Puthea ; sokleangc...@yahoo.com ; nychak...@yahoo.com ; Meach Sovannara The Khmer Post ; sounsereyra
Re: Cambodia under Hun Sen is peace and lovely
It is merely yuon khmer rouge scrap propaganda. In polpot time, the propaganda was; polpot regime is supper revolution, moha luot plos moha osja while these yuon pets/killing machines starved and killed millions of Khmer people to free land and resources for yuons. Now the neo yuon/khmer rouge still did the same, nothing change only form and methods. Am up with these nazi yuons horrors - Original Message - From: Phally better...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:05 AM Subject: Cambodia under Hun Sen is peace and lovely Hun Sen has worked extremely hard to make sure Cambodian people are in living in peace and hamony. According to the current economic trend and the world economic crisis, under government Hun Sen, he has generate the opportunity for the new growth of the Cambodia future, especially heavy invested from China and many other Asia countries. Cambodia is currently trying to improve its infrastructure, and the development of new technology for the agricultural economic. Additionally, new factories are being established, with the hope of employ million workers. Flooding from many countries to the world heritage, Angkor Wat, and the invitation of opportunity for the tourism economy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Khmer nation is so good
Om bros, Parfois il est bien de prendre les choses à la légère. Mais dans certain cas, c’est du suicide. Tous les tueurs, tous les fanatiques ne sont pas que des fous, des malades mentaux ou des ivrognes mais dans la majorité des cas ce sont des assassins pieux, coupables et responsables de leurs actes et du crime commis. Si vous consultez les fichiers laissés par les khmers rouges, vous ne trouvez nulle parte le mot khmer (pour désigner les khmers). Ces khmers rouges comme leurs maitres yuon vietcongs sont très allergiques au mot « Khmer » et à tout ce qu’il touche à la culture et à l’intelligence khmère et ces assassins ont essayaient (dan le passé comme le temps présent) de les supprimer par tous les moyens. Ces yuons, ces khmers rouges, n’utilisaient pas le mot Khmer pour designer les « Khmers » ; ils les appellent « kampuchea » ou « chun kamuchea » ou encore, « chun kampuchea tmei » (« new face cambodian» comme répète sans cesse ce kampouch) - La méthode du lavage de cerveau des yuons ou des kampuch, c’est de bestialité et d’imbécilité pour beaucoup entre nous mais cette méthode a fait ses œuvres à travers les patins yuons et certainement à d’autres qui sont mentalement modelable par cette méthode yuon – Mais qu’importe, je vous souhaite une meilleure fête de fin d’année à vous tous ! Bopha Angkor P/S Et merci à Lok ou Lok Srei Chamnap Keo d’avoir partagé votre point de vue très pertinent sur ce sujet. Je suis de l’avis de votre avis - Original Message - From: Khoar Chev To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Khmer nation is so good Dear all, Don't be so surprised, it's Holidays Season again! this Kampouch Ch-Yuon just have a heavy drink, shouldn't care much about what a drunk man said. Have a Wonderful Holidays to all! Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Chamnap Keo keo.c...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chamnap Keo keo.c...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Khmer nation is so good To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 9:09 PM the term Chun Kampuchea is a new legal term, never used in the past, and should never be used after Hun Sen, period. It is a term marred with neocolonism ambitions, a word that is meant to whitewash the Vietnamization of Cambodia and allow the free flow of undocumented aliens from both Vietnam, China, and other countries. The term Chun Kampuchea is coined precisely for this purpose and its arguments of inclusion is cloaked behind an ulterior motive of racist tendency to dominate the Khmer culture by foreign neighbors. To subjugate her and her people and reduced them into minority groups in their own ancestral land. This group of alien extremist will go far and paint Khmer as racist for not accepting a term that has been shoved down their throat in the name of friendship, inclusiveness, and unity when in fact the real design is far less lofty then they will admit, to themselves, and to the world and especially not to the Khmer people of Srok Khmer. So you are born in Cambodia, congratulation, I welcome you into our Khmer ancestral homeland. However, don't presume now that since you're Cambodian, you have the right to strip all other Khmers of their cultural identity and heritage and ancestral claim to their homeland. We accept you as Cambodians, but you don't need to call yourselves Khmer if you don't follow the custom, but you should realize that Cambodia is first and foremost the land of Khmer people. As such, we will not deny any connections made by Khmer around the world whether in Thailand or Kampuchea Krom to our shared history and identity. To severed this tie is the wish of these neighbors, [Thailand and Vietnam], for centuries. The sooner Cambodia can relinquish that connection, the sooner their programs of total assimilation of the people of Khmer descent in their annexed lands can take place. The problem is as long as Cambodia still accepts these populations as having shared connection, any attempt to forced the assimilation policy can be argued as cultural and social genocide, a human rights violations that the world community frowns upon. Chun Kampuchea, should be relegated to the bygones of era of Mit and Comrade and Hun Sen's Mitaphum days. The decade for foreign imposed ideological systems in Cambodia should now be set aside, it is time that Cambodia should now progress by the will of its native people and let them take the helm at their own country's destiny. In conclusion, Srok Khmer welcomes Cambodians, and all regardless of race can be Cambodian. Having Cambodian citizenship however, don't presume yourself to hold also the key to spiritual and ancestral connection that are rightly belongs to the natives
Re: All Khmers FAKE CAMBODIAN Please Take Caution: Lee Des
I think you are laying to yourself and to other and that will bring you and thai nation deep down to yuon hell soon. Like polpot; even working for yuons and under yuon supervision, had strong believe to bring all yuons back to srok yuons in 1973 then after 1975 but there were yuons every level of his range and this brought polpot to lead political purge among his which led to his sudden down. Even people before polpot believed to do so but still there are yuons everywhere in Cambodia. The problem in Cambodia is, if you want to lead political purge against yuon elements, you bring to eliminate a lot of people even yours because in Cambodia there are yuons in every social level in particularly in politic and economic matter and now in people mass. Although I argue Khmer people to stand against yuon crimes, yuon persecution, yuon domination and yuon colonization. Khmer as nation and as mankind have duty and rights to free themselves from those who kill them, those who private them from basic rights and freedom. Khmer people have rights to be master of their own destiny and not dominate by any morbid power or race. Not long ago I seen these reports about yuon Vietcong in Thailand, these yuons even living as averages thais but still so faithful to ho. Like in Cambodia, even bore thai skin these yuons know exactly what to do while it is needed... Just remark some yuons who bore smer skin in this forum. I don't wish that even to my worse enemy but continue to think and act like you thai will soon live this yuon hell as Khmer did. Believe me or not, naīve and ill pretentious like you thai people, yuons will have easy great maneuvers to handle the heads of your thais to lead you to kill one against other till you rest so few like cham people. - Original Message - From: Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 3:11 AM Subject: Re: All Khmers FAKE CAMBODIAN Please Take Caution: Lee Des FYI, every Thai citizen who married Viet Congs with children all deported back to Vietnam. We don't play dangerous games like your country. Nixon asked us to help Viet Congs, we did as one of the US allies, but we never allowed Viet Congs stayed in our land. Apisit just deported Viet Congs lived among Hmong, did you remember? Now Viet Congs are in Cambodia and two provinces Battambang and Siem Reap that belonged to Thailand, we need to jump in. On Nov 11, 2:39 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: no need to wait too long to see siam yuon shit shows. it's in air don t these siamese should a bit smart than that if they dont want the yuons to chop their thai heads so quick? I saw some documents talking about how yuon communism infiltrated its element (sleeping agent, young yuons females in preference) in thai to marry with the siamese to melt in siam mass since ho planed his extermination policy against Khmer and Laos in Indochina. These yuons and yuons Siamese will chop thai head soon if you continue to act alike. And dream if your ass people can claim anything from yuons Don t you think that you should call a yuon a yuon, a siam a siam and a Khmer a Khmer etc ? - Original Message - From: Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:11 AM Subject: Re: All Khmers FAKE CAMBODIAN Please Take Caution: Lee Des You are a dumb Kmer made from Cambodia. Your country destroyed by the dumb an dignorant like you. I don't care to know about Khmer Rouge in your country. You should kill all each others, who cares? On Nov 10, 11:35 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Nothing is wrong with that. However, if you look back at the Khmer Rouge regime, Cambodians killed their own people in millions. They forced people to work day and night without adequate foods and necessities. They died from malnutrition, disease. I don't know what is wrong with that if I am an ignorant. That was how they started from ground zero. On Nov 9, 7:19 pm, Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com wrote: What is wrong with starting from Zero? The separatist VietCongs started from zero, and look what they got? They gain for ONE CHINA, back to the big brothers. Everyone one is born naked. Believe in Faith, my little pigeon. Every nation created from zero. On Nov 9, 10:12 am, Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com wrote: But the fighting type of Rainsy is alway too extreme that can not be allowed because why do you know? First- Cambodia has been started from year ZERO that has no ediquete state instritutional infrastructure network. Not enough human sesource to operate them if set them up quickly as needed as some people have claimed. Goverment need more time, such as more universities and a lot more schools more routes more micro-economic growth more
Re: All Khmers Please Take Caution: Lee Des
Sound like the Siamese just awake up and aware that they will nibble out by yuons later or sooner. It is not this moment that the Siamese would affront with and protect from yuons but long ago. Perhaps it is a bit too late now. Siamese can always dream to share some of these Khmer provinces with yuons but I dont think that yuons wont make things easy for the Siamese. Rather think that, the yuons would have already nibbled the Siamese heads before the Siamese can reach this goal. Siamese and yuons known as Chinese robbers/barbaric. Along its root, these two groups used animosity and barbaric to destroyed and killed civilization, material and people. Just cant imaging how thing can be while these two spirit meet or affront? - Original Message - From: Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 4:37 AM Subject: Re: All Khmers Please Take Caution: Lee Des I'm not interested with your story as long as your Kmers give back Battambang and Siem Reap and Prah Vihea to Thailand, we'll leave you alone. Your King didn't have to invite VietCongs in, the VietCongs were in your country with the colonizers Farang and never left, and why didn't you know? VietCongs and Kmers have no real border, and now still have no real border. On Nov 1, 12:31 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 1, 7:48 am, Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com wrote: But your country is full of Yuon, and you're called by Kmer like Pheng Kim Ving to kill your own people. Pheng Kim Ving is Kmer with a heart of Yuon Vietcong. How many million of your people that killed each others by Kmer Vietcong? Slab your self harder my little pigeon, if you want to really wake up. Look through this string pearls and tell me if you can understand.http://www.rjkoehler.com/2010/01/31/is-chinas-fabled-string-of-pearls... I don't know how much you know about Cambodia. As far as we know, they fight each other in their own country. They have been asking other nations around the world to help them destroying their enemies of their own in their own country. This is the truth. Look back just a few years. Sihanouk allied himself with North Vietnamese and China. As the prime minister of Cambodia, he allowed China to use Cambodian soil to transport weapons to NVA and Vietcongs fighting the war in South Vietnam. He also allowed North Vietnamese to use Cambodian soil to transport troops, weapons, supplies to fight the war in South Vietnam. After he allied himself with Khmer Rouge coalition, Sihanouk did one important facto to help Khmer Rouge on its feet. He asked NVA to help train the Khmer Rouge cadres to fight the war against Lon Nol regime, Cambodians, in his own country. Do you know what was the result of that. The list can go on and on. Today, Sam Rainsy is roaming around the world blasting back on his government, which he was a part for a very long time. I don't know about you. If Sam Rainsy wants to fight, he should not be friend or co worker at the same time. If he does, he is not a good person. The reality is that Sam Rainsy has no will to unite his own country after the destruction of Khmer Rouge. He just wants his own way. He would do anything like many others before him have done. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Intel opens billion-dollar factory in Vietnam
I think I already heard that from a bunch of yuons or yuon experts. I'm not specialist of yuons but I think yuon, Korean, Japanese people have different culture and mentality even shared some kind of aspects. Or perhaps you just have so high esteem of yuons. That's a dream of yuons. - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Intel opens billion-dollar factory in Vietnam I think, Vietnam is smart like the Japanese did to American after WWII and look at Japan now after 65yrs: Second super power in the world (maybe #3 now after China). So imagine what VN will look like 20 yrs from now. Could be a next S Korean? On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:13 PM, InCamdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: Why not Cambodia? This clearly tells Cambodian workforce is not ready. Workforce development training along with open business friendly Behavior is required in order for major corporation to invest in Cambodia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Fw: Intel opens billion-dollar factory in Vietnam
And I may add, tha's also a yuon well planed political objective and dream to which yuon (Hanoi) try to sell to its people. Yuons believe, by killing other people (non yuons) to rob those people land and resources to supply yuon's needs of development ; it will help yuons to reach that objective and dream . But those are not my affaire. What interest me is to stop yuon enterprise of genocide, yuon atrocities and yuon crimes against humanity. - Original Message - From: Bopha Angkor To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Intel opens billion-dollar factory in Vietnam I think I already heard that from a bunch of yuons or yuon experts. I'm not specialist of yuons but I think yuon, Korean, Japanese people have different culture and mentality even shared some kind of aspects. Or perhaps you just have so high esteem of yuons. That's a dream of yuons. - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: Intel opens billion-dollar factory in Vietnam I think, Vietnam is smart like the Japanese did to American after WWII and look at Japan now after 65yrs: Second super power in the world (maybe #3 now after China). So imagine what VN will look like 20 yrs from now. Could be a next S Korean? On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:13 PM, InCamdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: Why not Cambodia? This clearly tells Cambodian workforce is not ready. Workforce development training along with open business friendly Behavior is required in order for major corporation to invest in Cambodia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: FW: Abhisit Vejjajiva, Thai prime minister, accused of war crimes
I can assure you that around Prah vihear late dispute many Khmer nationals don't know what feet to dance. Should they leave Siamese to take Prah Vihear or should they help yuons to fight Prah vihear from Siamese? I hate to say that but to be honest I think Khmer in Cambodia had little to earn whether Prah Vihear will be part of Cambodia or not. Most everything in Cambodia is control and exploit by yuons, natural and national resources. Even Angkor Wat (Visnou Loka) is exploiting by yuon company. Nothing left for Khmer but misery. That the prix to pay for living as yuon slaves and under yuon colonization. As a Khmer, I neither to leave Prah Vihear for yuons nor Siamese but if there is no other possibility at hand, I rather leave it for Siamese than the yuons. Why? Because for many reasons, historic, cultural or ethnic, I think the Siamese have much legitimates, respects and loves for Prah Vihear than the yuons. Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:01 PM Subject: Re: FW: Abhisit Vejjajiva, Thai prime minister, accused of war crimes Robot kangaroo. Thais are the rightfull owner and Thais will fight to keep Prah Vihea. Million Kamers in Thailand, while in your country Cambodia has mostly Vietshiets, the separatist from China. Prah Vihea belongs to Thais. On Oct 27, 12:57 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Oct 26, 8:10 pm, Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com wrote: Apisit must be put to stand trial. He loves power and he is doing dirty job for the monarchy. You know why King Pumipon is still in hospital? He is just a puppet King, his wife the queen and the military have a full control of Thailand. With 30 billion dollars they shoot us like animals. Whatever the queen wants she has it, like a biggest blue diamond stole from Saudi Arabia, how many innocence lives died for just that? Go red shirts! , 2:40 pm, Kheng, Khemarak kkh...@vorys.com wrote: Why should Thai people put him in jail? I am pretty sure that Thai people are praising him for raising the border discussion. They have been saying that those ancient ruins belong to them all along. Now, if Thai people would not do it, can Cambodians do it? Ofcourse not. He has not violated Cambodian territory of any kinds. Remember! That is a dispute. It means that both parties claim a certain territory as theirs. Who is right will remain to be seen. Will Cambodian be able to produce a concrete evidence to prove that it is theirs? Will Thai be able to do it as well? Will war settle the dispute? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: The Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese Communists: A history of their relations as told in the Soviet archives
Most of Khmer nationals and intellectuals know the causes and reasons of genocide in Cambodia – how and for what reasons other countries get involve with it? How yuons seized occasion, organized the genocide against Khmer people and for what reasons ect But they are minority comparing to the other kind to able to change the face of history and destiny of Cambodia. But that’s not the reasons to leave yuons free to lead that horrible human butchery. Dissimulating, irresponsibility, deny, these comportments belong to a kind of mankind inspiring of littleness, crime and anti social comportment (assassins, psychopath, crooks, felons, ect) Not a man with dignity and responsibility. How long the yuons (Hanoi) can hide, nourish and growing in that horrible bloody human butcher and for what prix…. ? Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Lee Des lee.desti...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: The Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese Communists: A history of their relations as told in the Soviet archives Dmitry Mosyakov To this day, the real history of relations between the Khmer communists and their Vietnamese colleagues is enclosed in a veil of secrecy. Despite extensive research on this theme in Russia and abroad, there are still no reliable answers to many key questions. The history of relations between Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge is construed in Vietnam in a way which sometimes has nothing to do with the story told in the West. Statements of some Khmer Rouge leaders like Khieu Samphan or Ieng Sari, who have recently defected to the governmental camp in Phnom Penh and say what people want to hear, are not to be trusted either. All this supports the assumption that analysis of relations between Hanoi and the Khmer Rouge is not only a historical problem. There is still a political component, which encumbers its objective study. The author endeavours to tackle this problem and to present to the reader an objective and impartial picture of what was happening.· The research is based on a study of the former USSR’s archival materials (diaries of Soviet ambassadors in Vietnam, records of conversations with ranking members of the Vietnamese government, analytical notes, political letters of the Soviet embassy in the SRV, and other documents) deposited in the Russian State Archive of Modern History (RSAMH). Along with other sources, such as the French colonial archives and interviews with Vietnamese and Cambodian participants (see Ben Kiernan, How Pol Pot Came to Power: A History of Communism in Kampuchea, 1930-1975, London, Verso, 1985), this work allows us to give objective and reasonably complete answers to the question at issue. Relations between Khmer and Vietnamese communists have passed through some major periods of development. In the first period, which can be determined to span from 1930 to 1954, a small Khmer section of the Indochina Communist Party (ICP), was under full ideological and organizational control of the Vietnamese communists. During the years of struggle for liberation from the governance of France (1946-1954), the strength of this section grew continuously due to ICP recruitment of the most radical participants in the anti-colonial struggle. The Khmer People’s Revolutionary Party (KPRP) was founded in June 1951 on this basis. The leaders of this party, Son Ngoc Minh, Sieu Heng, and Tou Samut, acted hand in hand in the anti-colonial war with the Vietnamese and were truly valid allies and strict executors of all the plans drafted by the ICP. The 1954 Geneva Agreements on Indochina drastically changed relations between Khmer and Vietnamese communists. The Vietnamese withdrew their forces from Cambodia in accordance with the Agreements, but as distinct from Laos (where the so-called free zone in the region of Sam Neua was controlled by the communists), Hanoi could not ensure the same conditions for their Khmer allies. The Vietnamese, under pressure from the Sihanouk regime and its Western allies, did not even let the Khmer communists participate in the Geneva negotiations, and by the end of 1954 had withdrawn their combat forces from the regions of Cambodia which were under their control. Hereupon Khmer Royal Forces entered all zones that had been under KPRP authority, which forced the party underground. The consolation offered by Hanoi - granting two thousand of their allies the possibility of taking cover in the territory of North Vietnam (Nayan Chanda, Brother Enemy, N.Y., 1986, p. 59) - was obviously disproportionate to their contribution to a joint struggle. Therefore among the Khmer communists remaining in Cambodia the story gained currency that Hanoi had simply betrayed them, used them as hostages for the sake of reaching the agreement with the then leader of Cambodia, Norodom Sihanouk. The evaluation of the Vietnamese operations of those days as an “unrighteous
Re: K'nhom Chang Suor (by Anonymous Poet)
អស់លោក, សង្គមខ្មែរមានការងងឹតងងុលវិលវល់យល់ច្រឡំច្រើនណាស់ ខ្ញុំគិតថាយើងគួរជៀសវាងអ្វីដែលនាំអោយរិតតែវិលវល់យល់ច្រឡំរហូតដល់មានការ មិនយល់គ្នាឬប្រេះស្រាំទ្វេ ។ អ្វីដែលខ្ញុំចង់និយាយពេលនេះគឺ គួរចាត់ទុកអ្វីដែលជារបស់ស្តេចជារបស់ស្តេច, របស់ជាតិជារបស់ជាតិ របស់យួនជារបស់យួន ។ ខ្ញុំចង់និយាយថា អស់លោកមិនគួរហៅពួកអាកញ្ចះយួនអស់នេះជាខ្មែរឬអ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរសោះ វាហាក់ដូចជាពួកអស់លោកខំលើកតម្កើងពួកកញ្ចះយួន អស់នេះខ្លាំងជ្រុលពេក ហើយកំពុងតែជេរបន្ថោកខ្លួនឯង បន្ថោកជាតិខ្មែរទាំងមូល ព្រមទាំងខ្មែរទាំងឡាយទៀតដែលកំពុងរងគ្រោះ មហន្តរាយក្រោមការកាន់កាប់អំណាចរបស់ពួកឧបករណ៍នយោបាយយួនមួយក្រុមនេះ ។ ខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ខ្ញុំចាត់ទុកពាក្យទាំងនេះជាការបន្ថោកម៉ាក់ងាយដល់ខ្ញុំផ្ទាល់ ដែលជាខ្មែរម្នាក់និងអ្វីទៀតដែលជាខ្មែរ ព្រោះក្នុងក្រសែភ្នែកខ្ញុំ ពួកនេះជាអ្វីមួយផ្សេងទៀតគួរអោយខ្ពើមរអើម ដែលមិនមែនជាខ្មែរ ដែលមិនមែនជារបស់ខ្មែរ ហើយខ្ញុំក៏មិនដែលចាត់កញ្ចះយួនមួយណាមួយថាជាខ្មែរ ជាអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិខ្មែរ ឬជាអ្វីទៀតដែលជានិមិតរូបខ្មែរ ។ គ្រាន់តែជាយោបល់ និងការរំលឹក ។ បុប្ផាអង្គរ - Original Message - From: Vichea Sam To: Camdisc Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: K'nhom Chang Suor (by Anonymous Poet) Please see attachment. thanks, V.S. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Peace with neighbor
Sat kangkaeb yul thaa roung robos vir chea sakal tang muol. The question is not if Khmer people or yuon puppet government wants peace or not but if yuons and other powerful countries (like French, China, URSS, USA ect ) that play a major role in the tragedy of Cambodia want it or not. On this matter, I think Khmer people have so little to say and have nor capacity nor material to fight against. In early seventy sihanouk band like the rest of Khmer rouge didn't yet have a name, they were few with no arm nor military training nor goal yet they become the worse killing machine against Khmer nation and people under brightening yuon vietcon guideline. T'ai should not neglect that matter. - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:21 PM Subject: Peace with neighbor The new of alleged terrorist training is exploded in Thai media.11 men (Thai) were arrested in Chiang mai are the red shirt militants trained by Cambodian soldier . The purpose of training is to kill high ranking government officials.Khmer trained Thai to hate their institution monarchy whose job was behind the coup to topple Taksin couple years ago. The well known Buriram leader Newin was among the target also. If this allegation is true what would be the consequence to the government of Cambodia, just flatly deny ? I think Cambodian should make peace with their neighbors for the benefit of the people, focus their own problem do not getting involve westward march policy on behalf of somebody else. Friendly with the neighbor is the best policy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Bury Chau is a real old Khmer ethnic monkey
ah kampouch ass, if you have problem with someone then address to him directly. As if your kampouch ass atrocities and crimes against Khmer is not enough, your kampouch ass need to run fool online vomit your kampouch ass racial slurs and ill hatred on them again and again. Whether your kampouch ass understand it or not, no one interdict your kampouch ass to express your kampouch ass opinoon here but I just CANT tolerate that your kampouch ass vomit your ill kampouch ass racial slurs and hatred against Khmer people all the time. I don't know if your kampouch ass can conceive but your kampouch ass must know that to be born Khmer is not but your kampouch ass racial crime, slurs and hatred is a real CRIME. Just tired of your kampouch ass racial slurs, hatred and crimes against Khmer !!! - Original Message - From: Neak Kampuchea kampuchun2...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 2:42 PM Subject: Bury Chau is a real old Khmer ethnic monkey No, Bury Chau? A Western Culture is now in Cambodia right now! Are you a blind Khmer ethnic mitnority ? I am telling you that all nationals including you or other Khmer are becoming Western country citizens as long as they live in there for a long periode of time. Even in South Vietnam, all KIhmer living in there are Vietnamese. PLease dont be shit for too long, look around, you will see the world is changing, if you dont you are a real blind man or simply an old khmer ethnic monkey. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: People must know they have power
While a savant can only pick a piece or few pieces of things but cant see or draw the whole picture it is like a Khmer proverb said a kvak steab domrei The most difficult for a man is not his capacity to digest a mount of savoir (told/knowledge) but his discernment and mental capacity to make right distinction between things and his capacity make his own idea of those things in a right direction. Behind each action, there's hides ambitions or goals. It is difficult not to fall in ambiguity but ambiguity is generally belongs to someone who missed one own idea, or oneself in a space or at least has something to hide. Man influenced and influenable. I believe in a fact that a book, a culture can make a man who he is. Theory destroys, kills as it save. Hyena or chicken cant give birth to lion and inversely. But people can believe what they want to or think they should. That's their freedom. By joining Vietcong rank for whatever ambition, polpot did a lot of harm against Khmer for yuon interest but polpot is not the creator of the practice or theory led against Khmer. A lot hate polpot or those they hate but don't they think they are polpot or those they hated themselves in some degree. Human is not a machine that can only repeat, report or contain things or apply/obey a command or an order. You can hate me because I'm being honest. - Original Message - From: PuppyXpress To: camdisc Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 11:27 PM Subject: People must know they have power -- Forwarded message -- From: Gaffar Peang-Meth peangm...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:30 AM Subject: People must know they have power To: PACIFIC DAILY NEWS October 6, 2010 People must know they have power By A. Gaffar Peang-Meth The Khmer blog KI-Media recently has been publishing in sections Gene Sharp's From Dictatorship to Democracy: A Conceptual Framework for Liberation, by the Albert Einstein Institution, that provides significant guidelines to assist thought and planning in the fight against dictatorship. Sharp hopes his study on how a dictatorship can be disintegrated would be useful wherever people live under domination and desire to be free. Sharp presupposes people who live under a dictatorship can distinguish between a dictatorship and a democracy, and there are those with a desire to be free. Enormous work and effort are required from fractious democrats and rights activists who fight powerful ruling tyrants. In Cambodia, deeply rooted old habits and thoughts stand opposite imaginative, creative and innovative thinking. Some 70 percent of the people polled said Cambodia under autocracy is headed in the right direction. Khmer and foreign partisans of political stability ignore civil rights violations, while opponents of autocracy speak of people power. Yet power doesn't exist until the people understand it is actually in their hands; until democrats and rights activists help them to believe the truth that no power, force or barrier can withstand their determined efforts for rights and freedom. More than ever, Cambodians need democrats and rights activists to lead them. Through enlightened and efficient leadership, the citizens become aware of the parameters of oppression and develop the confidence that will bring down any dictator. 'Pigs don't fly' Some readers complain that I write a lot about better thinking but don't tell them what and how it will help defeat Cambodia's autocracy and keep Khmers Khmer. In some ways, the complaint itself is evidence of a lack of analytical thought. I don't normally read comments posted by anonymous bloggers, whose expletives, racial slurs or demonization of opponents affirm the bloggers' true values, but every now and then I peruse them. Some people blog to relieve their frustration and unhappiness -- which is useful to detect the symptoms of a disease, if not the disease itself. A blogger took offense at my remarks that all minds can be taught, and responded with pigs don't fly -- i.e., some minds simply cannot improve, just like a horse refuses to drink even if led to the water. There can't be change without a belief that it is possible. Are some unredeemable intellectually? Pigs don't fly. We know that. But human minds do develop and grow. We know that, too. Pol Pot decided that a people so stupid as to refuse his ways and thoughts must be destroyed and re-educated through forced labor and tbaung chawb (hoe blade) to strike the necks of those with incorrect thinking. There is no gain to keep them, no loss to eliminate them, the Khmer Rouge said. Thus, Pol Pot killed the nation. When I was a child, my father often reminded me that if I didn't use my brain to read and reflect, the brain's lack of
Re: Will Cambodians in North America let Tith Sothea insult their demonstration against Hun Xen in New York as being unreasonable?
Om bros, Although non of us can stop those yuon tools to act the cons but you did the right thing by clarifying on this issue so there is no more misunderstanding among people. As you may know, non cant ask the criminals to have a consciousness, to have some human feeling to admire their atrocity or more to stop committing crimes, these criminals will continue no matter how as long as there is way for these criminals to do so. But we can oppose to these criminals by laws or struggles. Other people did, why not Khmer people Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Khoar Chev To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Will Cambodians in North America let Tith Sothea insult their demonstration against Hun Xen in New York as being unreasonable? Bopha, like you, I'm not belonged to any political party nor have anything against lok Sam Raingsy's parrty, I just want to make sure people understand that this is not about anyone or any party, it just about all Khmer. Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Sat, 9/25/10, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: From: Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr Subject: Re: Will Cambodians in North America let Tith Sothea insult their demonstration against Hun Xen in New York as being unreasonable? To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:41 AM Om bros, It is the big mess of SRP even in Europe. Some people from SRP are just being so indecent, antidemocratic and antikhmer interest, any opportunity is good for these people to jump advancing their party with no tiny respect to other people who dont want to have something to do with this party at all. These people think first to save their pants and their party than national interest and Cambodian people. I have nothing against mr rainsy or his party but certainly I don’t approve or caution his weirdness and play policy, cpp vi srp, toward Cambodia which I consider as a very dangerous play in detriment of nation. I think organisator of such demonstration should make the clear rules for every participant. Anyone can participate but not in the name of any one, any party, or talking in the name of anyone, any party on behalf of other participants. This tith sothea sounds like a mess up opportunist if not, a cpp clone among cotton skin. This is a real act of sabotage from this tith sothear against this protest and other protestors. Just wonder if this individual discourse in below article resorted of his own opinion or policy of his party. Just cant stand such behave, such people …. Best regards Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Khoar Chev To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Will Cambodians in North America let Tith Sothea insult their demonstration against Hun Xen in New York as being unreasonable? Just want to clarify that this protest just like other previous protests, this protest is all Khmer protest, NOT FOR Sam Raingsy party or Any Other political parties. All Khmer have their rights express their anger and discontent with this Yuon Puppet, it's a shame for anyone ( include Sam Raingsy party ) who try to mislead or use the protesters for their benefit. Khmer Ruom Khmer Ruos Khmer Bek Bak Khmer Slabb! Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Fri, 9/24/10, InCamdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: InCamdisc incamd...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Will Cambodians in North America let Tith Sothea insult their demonstration against Hun Xen in New York as being unreasonable? To: camdisc@googlegroups.com camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 10:50 AM It Sothea gave Sam Rainsy and his political Party too much credit. There are millions of Khmers are disagree with CPP and Hun Sen's policy, they did many protests and don't need Sam Rainsy and his party and including this one. Members of Sam Rainsy party want to join? They can, it is their rights and Cambodia is their country too. Savun On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:09 AM, Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com wrote: Any Cambodian who considers joining this demonstration should remind himself or herself that this demonstration would be mainly for the interest of a political party called the Sam Rainsy Party, not for the interest of Cambodia. Pheng Kim Ving
Re: SRP Press Conference with Sam Rainsy Video-conference on 24 September 2010
I dont know what is mr Rainsy playing with cpp and yuon hanoi again? Didn't mr Rainsy one has sued hun sen for grenade attack then take off the complain while hun sen accepted to handle him a candy? What's the difference from the last complain and now? I believe mr Rainsy just send a message to hun sen, if you dont stop to sue me and let me go back, I will sue you too I'm sick and sad for people who believed and died for mr Rainsy as those who died and believe in sihanouk, hun sen or polpot to free them and Cambodia from yuon hell. Cambodian people merit better if they effort themselves to chose something or someone better.. Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: khmer sralanh khmer To: khmer.sralanh.kh...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:22 AM Subject: Fwd: SRP Press Conference with Sam Rainsy Video-conference on 24 September 2010 Saturday, September 25, 2010 SRP Press Conference with Sam Rainsy Video-conference on 24 September 2010 Sep 24, 2010: Opposition Leader Sam Rainsy addressed the participants and answered questions from Paris through a teleconference on New judicial proceedings in New York against Mr. Hun Sen and his subordinates in relation to a deadly 1997 grenade attack in Phnom Penh and an investigation by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation at SRP Phnom Penh Headquarters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Norodom Sihanouk and his golden era?
It is like tell yuons to stop to hate Khmer, to stop tricking and planning the killing against Khmer and stop rapping Khmer land and resources. Leave other people alone will. I have no common goal with yuons, with your kind nor do I have common things or goal with the yuon tools here or there. The problem with kind of people is to you mixed everything together, place everything at the same level, in the same pack that your kind cant even distingue one thing from other nor a thing and from a human, or a friend from enemy. Love, Tolerance, Compassion, courage those previous valor are shared transmitted from my family and they are dared to me. And as previous valor I wont share or soil with those who stink of crime and horrors from the brain. And not only. This my message to that kind of horry skins. Remember it well - Original Message - From: Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Norodom Sihanouk and his golden era? Kangaroo, I'd like to join Watkeo Kuma to encourage you to let go of your past. Most, if not all, of us have suffered enough. Personally, I lost my dad to the Khmer Rouge. I once was mad too. I used to blame politicians for my suffering. I am free from that now. You said,I was very angry at Cambodia one time. You can't imagine how much I hated Cambodia. Without knowing the detail, I respect that. By all mean, you have every rights under the sun to be mad and to hate the country. But deep down, I know you still love this country. That is why you spend your energy here saying things to annoy us so that we change our way. Most of us who are here share that common bond. The bond that Cambodia is the land of our birth. Our political views may be all over the spectrum, but we love our country. Although we are here, our hearts are at home. To some of us there is no different whether we live here or there. The pains are the same. When we see our fellow Khmers suffer, we suffer. Some of us have more patience than others. Some want thing to change overnight other say,' let the process takes its course. Some get involve because he/she that it is his or her birth right to be a leader. Other say, wait a minute you and your kind almost destroyed our country, I am going to do anything in my power to keep you out. Although we are Khmer, but we are human. And Human is not an exact science. In this sense we are quite normal. We act pretty much the same as any other races would act. This is why I refuse to accept that we are a bad race - just because the Khmer Rouge did what they did. I do not much about human behavior, but I know this much. Hate is not the answer to anything. Some of us in this forum are very scary. Listening to them I wonder if they are any different from the Khmer Rouge or the person they are condemning. I cannot imagine what these folks would do if they get a hold of power. The bottom line is please let go of you pains. And I also sincerely ask for your forgiveness if I have acted inappropriately while discussing this passionate issue in the heat of the moment. Sincerely yours, Jay On Sep 16, 6:53 pm, Watkeo Kuma kum...@hotmail.com wrote: Kangaroo, you were one time get angry with Cambodia that your past, I believe, but let go that past will make a new you again. Who are living where not the case of limitation on human communicate past and present. sharing the common story old and new doesn't matter where you are living, but will recall bad to good as age growing up. Saying something better than not saying a word, just like you go to the temple and listen to monks preaching morality. I knew you hate Cambodia for your reason, I can't blame you for your judgement. Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:37:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Norodom Sihanouk and his golden era? From: therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com I don't mean to insult you in anyway here. It's merely an opinion. There are great people all over the world. There are bad and good people everywhere. In Cambodian case, there are alot of bad people in the country. They corrupt and practice impunity over each other for centuries. Yet, they still think their nation is great. Now, many of them ARE LIVING overseas in other countries. They are barking at Cambodia yelling how bad it is in Cambodia. Yet, they are living in another country. Let us put two things together here. Cambodian history reflects what has happened in the last five decades. If Cambodians did not do it, who has done to Cambodia? After saying all of these things, let me say this hopefully you would not get angry. You are living in America now, not in Cambodia. You are doing good things in America doesn't mean that you are doing good things in Cambodia. My friend, I was very angry at Cambodia one time. You can't imagine how much I hated Cambodia. What I saw one day
Re: La crise de Preah Vihear
Lok Pou Krakmo, Votre opinion est intéressante mais très discutable. Vous optez sur l’effet aléatoire et hasardeux des faits quand à moi j’insiste sur la préparation et l’organisation minutieux du crime et j’espère vous comprenez et pouvez peser ces mots. Génocide, extermination d’une population pour coloniser, ce n’est pas du hasard. Il faut pour les yuons des sièges de travails acharnés et minutieux, de détermination, de préparation, des sacrifices et d’organisation pour arriver ce qu’ils ont réussi aujourd’hui. Cependant je n’ignore rien sur les conflits personnels ou interpersonnels ect dans la société cambodgienne comme dans toute la société d’ailleurs. Cela ne veut pas dire non plus que j’excuse tous ceux qui ont commis les crimes avec ces yuons et peu importe. Chacun de ces criminels ont leur part de responsabilité du crime commis contre le peuple khmer. Mais de cela à donner des excuses à ces yuons pour échapper de leurs crimes et atrocités, je crois que c’est une bien triste grossière erreur. Il faut des années de recherches, des plaints, des travails acharnés de la part des victimes de Shoa pour que les quelques criminels nazis soient conduits et jugés devant un tribunal. Si les victimes ne reconnaitre même pas leur gourous et leur assassins, comment pourrait-t-on condamner ces assassins un jour ? Cela est à mon sens le plus abominable de tragédies cambodgiennes. On laisse toujours les criminels libres de leur crimes parce qu’ils ont trop grand, trop gros, trop difficile à atteindre. On préfère courir après des petits délinquants, c’est plus facile. Sans aucun péjoratif mais aller au essentiel, le problème yuons au Cambodge est un problème majeur, le plus essentiel dans un programme politique d’un politicien cambodgien, si non ce n’est qu’un imposteur ou un rien. Le problème yuons au Cambodge n’est pas un détail de l’histoire ou un symptôme d’une maladie cambodgienne mais la source même. Pour être direct et sans complexe, pour que cette source ne produise plus des criminels et des assassins pour anéantir le Cambodge ou servir dans une entrepris expansionniste et génocidaire, cette source doit être maitrisé ou anéanti. Les autres problèmes en ont rien comparé à l’autre. Un médecin ne tue pas les malades ou les victimes de la maladie mais la maladie si non ce n’est qu’un assassin. Dans la chambre bataille, on ne se trompe pas les ennemies. Cependant je respecte votre opinion et votre approche du problème. Par ailleurs est ce qu’il y a une différence entre, une discussion utile et nécessaire, et une polémique ? Mes respects Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Krakmo Kaing To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:50 AM Subject: RE: La crise de Preah Vihear ជូនចំពោះ នាង, តាមពឹត ខ្ញុំមិនសូវជាចូលចិត្ត ការពិភក្សាអ្វី ដែលជា polémique នោះឡើយ ។ តែថារឿងខ្មែរយើង បើតាមខ្ញុំយល់ គឺជារឿងដែលហៅថា “ដង្កូវវាដុះចេញមកពីសាច់យើង” មុន នឹងយើងចោទទៅលើ “រុយដែលវាហើរមកទំរួចពងនៅលើរបួសនៅសាច់យើង” ។ ហើយរុយនោះ យើងមិនទាន់ចាប់វាបាននៅឡើយ ដើម្បីបង្ហាញអន្តរជាតិ អោយគេយល់ ផង ។ សូម្បីតែសាច់យើង មានរបួសដំបៅ ក៍យើងពុំទាន់ ឬពុំមានពេលបានព្យាបាលនៅឡើយដែរ ។ អ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរបន្តបន្ទាប់ មើលស្ថានការស្រុករបស់ខ្លួន ច្រើនយឺតពេលហើយខុសទៅទៀត ។ ខ្ញុំចូលចិត្ត អ្វីៗត្រូវរៀប ”ចំសំអាតខ្លួនយើងសិន” មុននឹងឈានទៅរកប្រយុទ្ធ (ដោយ ប្រការណាមួយ ដោយសមរម្ភ) ជាមួយនឹងសត្រូវរបស់យើង ។ រឿងសំអាតខ្លួននេះហើយ ដែលយើងធ្វើមិនទាន់បាន ។ នេះជាអកុសលរបស់ខ្មែរយើង ។ ពឹតហើយ សត្រូវរបស់ យើង ត្រូវតែបើកមុខតាំងពីពេលនេះទៅដែរ មិនមែនយើងត្រូវដេកលក់ / សម្ងំ នោះឡើយ ។ Bref ខ្ញុំមិនប្រាកដថា ចំឡើយរបស់ខ្ញុំ ឆ្លើយចំចំពោះ ពាក្សរបស់នាងថា choquant នោះឡើយ ។ សូមនាងអភ័យទោស, ក្រាក់ម៉ូ De : camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] De la part de Bopha Angkor Envoyé : mercredi 15 septembre 2010 21:17 À : camdisc@googlegroups.com Objet : Re: La crise de Preah Vihear Lok Pou Krakmo, Hitler n'a pas commis le massacre contre les 10 millions de juifs de ses propres mains mais cela ne veut pas dire qu’Hitler n'était pas coupable pour ces massacres et tous les crimes commis contre les juifs. De même certain juifs (prisonniers ou autre) qui ont été utilisé par le IIIème Reich comme de macabres manœuvres par force ou par contraint dans les camps de concentration et de massacres mais ça ne veut pas dire non plus ces juifs ont commis des massacres contre leurs. C’est l’aspect organisation du crime et du génocide qui est tenir en compte. Pourquoi ce cas n’est pas appliqué avec le Cambodge et le peuple cambodgien ? Y’a-t-il au autre un génocide et un ignoble crime racial et discriminatoire contre le peuple khmer d’un par de l’autre? Honnêtement il y a de quoi incriminer les yuon vietcong de crime organisé et le génocide contre le peuple khmer même ces derniers n’ont ou non pas ouvertement et directement commis ces crimes ignoble contre le peuple khmer de leur propres mains. C'est choquant d’entendre ce
Re: La crise de Preah Vihear
Lok Pou Krakmo, Hitler n'a pas commis le massacre contre les 10 millions de juifs de ses propres mains mais cela ne veut pas dire qu’Hitler n'était pas coupable pour ces massacres et tous les crimes commis contre les juifs. De même certain juifs (prisonniers ou autre) qui ont été utilisé par le IIIème Reich comme de macabres manœuvres par force ou par contraint dans les camps de concentration et de massacres mais ça ne veut pas dire non plus ces juifs ont commis des massacres contre leurs. C’est l’aspect organisation du crime et du génocide qui est tenir en compte. Pourquoi ce cas n’est pas appliqué avec le Cambodge et le peuple cambodgien ? Y’a-t-il au autre un génocide et un ignoble crime racial et discriminatoire contre le peuple khmer d’un par de l’autre? Honnêtement il y a de quoi incriminer les yuon vietcong de crime organisé et le génocide contre le peuple khmer même ces derniers n’ont ou non pas ouvertement et directement commis ces crimes ignoble contre le peuple khmer de leur propres mains. C'est choquant d’entendre ce genre de chose de votre part. - Original Message - From: Krakmo Kaing To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:43 PM Subject: RE: La crise de Preah Vihear Il semble que vous manquez de mentionner que à peu près plus de 70% de matière grise cambodgienne étaient éliminées par les KR. Cela pouvait être l’œuvre d’un pays voisin (Yuon) mais nous n’avons pas de preuves suffisantes. Voilà c’est pourquoi nous manquons les techniciens. Après 3 decennies de guerre et en plus le mal gouvernance au Cambodge il n’est pas facile à relever la situation économique de ce pays. Nous pouvons peut être nous poser la question : et le pays Yuon ? . La réponse partielle c’est que les Yuons, pendant la guerre ne détruisent pas ses infrastructures comme les font les KR. Voilà les idioties des leaders khmers. សូមបញ្ជាក់ថា សីហនុ ពេលចូលមកស្រុកខ្មែរវិញ ឃើញស្រុកខ្មែរដូចឋានព្រះចន្ទឥចឹង ។ មកវិញមានតែក្តិតទទេ ខ្លួនឯងបានបំផ្លាញខ្ទេចខ្ទីគ្មានសល់អ្វីឡើយ ។ បាននៅសល់ត្រឹមតែវ័ង្គ ហើយខាងក្នុងមានសួនដាំដើមចេកដើមដូង២ឬបីដើមប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ នេះជាមាយាទ ស្តេចខ្មែរ ។ De : camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] De la part de Vincent Thach Envoyé : mercredi 15 septembre 2010 18:30 À : camdisc@googlegroups.com Objet : La crise de Preah Vihear Chers Tous: Durant la période coloniale les Français aidaient les Vietnamiens en tout, particulièrement en sciences et techniques avant en parallèle le développement de la langue vietnamienne romanisée. Au Kampuchea Krom tout est fait pour empêcher les Cambodgiens à s'instruire, en particulier en langue cambodgienne. Au Cambodge, la même chose. Au point de vue pêcherie, il faut acheter des lots. Seuls les Vietnamiens pouvaient emprunter à la banque pour les acheter. Au Cambodge, tous les services techniques sont entre les mains des Vietnamiens, sans exception, y compris la police et les interprètes pour s'adresse aux Cambodgiens. Depuis 1991, personne ne nous apprend les métiers techniques. Dans ces conditions, comment pouvons nous nous battre contre les Vietnamiens ? La puissance d'un pays réside dans la puissance de son industrie. Maintenant nous avons un réseau routier qui se développe. La crise de Preah Vihear nous a permis d'avoir une bonne route vers ce temple. Il va avoir une bonne route entre Stung Treng - Anlong Veng et Sisophon. Ainsi petit à petit nous avons un bon réseau routier le long de nos frontières de l'Ouest. Il nous reste l'équivalent le long de nos frontières à l'Est. Et aussi la rénovation de notre ligne de chemin de fer. L'année prochaine, il y a prévision pour exporter environ 200 000 tonnes de riz. Il nous faut former rapidement des milliers, voire des dizaines de milliers d'ingénieurs et de techniciens de bon niveau pour développer notre industrie. Très peu ne nos compatriotes à l'étranger le comprennent. Ils se lancent principalement dans la politique. Or la puissance économique est la base de toute politique. Notre infériorité envers nos voisins réside dans l'ignorance de notre peuple. Instruire le peuple est la base de toute politique sérieuse. Peut-on instruire le peuple dans des langues étrangères ? Bien amicalement -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: La crise de Preah Vihear
Lok Vincent, Je suis totalement d'accord avec votre approche pour la compréhension de l'histoire et de la tragédie cambodgienne. Que ces yuons et ces autres sachent, ce n'est en voulant les accuser de quoi ce soit qu'on convoque ces aspects des choses mais surtout pour la compréhension du drame, de l'histoire et la responsabilisation du crime commis ce soit par un yuon ou un autre. Revenons à la fameuse histoire infinité franço-yuon que beaucoup en parlent, je ne pense pas que les colonisateurs français ont choisi les yuons pour rouler et anéantir le peuple khmer à leur place par sympathie ou affinité pour les yuons mais surtout c'est un choix stratégique et politique de la part de ces incrédules colonisateurs français. La preuve ces viets qui ont été utilisés par la colonisation française qui ont été emmenés puise lâchés comme des bêtes à boucherie dans les macabres camps de réfugier ou camps de la honte (pour ne pas dire camps de concentration) en France. Beaucoup de ces viets y vivent encore et très minablement, habitué à des savanes, peu n'arrivent à trouver la sortie dans la grand ville. Pourtant ces viets ne sont pas des criminels ni prisonniers de guerre. C'est petit de la part de ces français. Quoi qu'il soit, à cause de cette politique, mise en avant les yuons, par la colonisation française, permettant ainsi des yuons de prendre un gros pas en avant sur les Cambodgiens, déjà très affaiblis et anéantis par des guerres, des massacres et des génocides incessant commis soit les siams, la plus part du temps par les yuon depuis le temps de post Angkor. Ainsi ces français donnaient à ces viets plus du pouvoir, des facilités et des possibilités de contrôler, de coloniser le Cambodge et organiser des crimes atroces contre le peuple à fin de achever leur but et leur rêve suprême celle d'exterminer le peuple khmer pour les voler la terre et des ressources nécessaires pour les yuon à survivre et épand leur race. A bientôt - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: La crise de Preah Vihear Chers Tous: Durant la période coloniale les Français aidaient les Vietnamiens en tout, particulièrement en sciences et techniques avant en parallèle le développement de la langue vietnamienne romanisée. Au Kampuchea Krom tout est fait pour empêcher les Cambodgiens à s'instruire, en particulier en langue cambodgienne. Au Cambodge, la même chose. Au point de vue pêcherie, il faut acheter des lots. Seuls les Vietnamiens pouvaient emprunter à la banque pour les acheter. Au Cambodge, tous les services techniques sont entre les mains des Vietnamiens, sans exception, y compris la police et les interprètes pour s'adresse aux Cambodgiens. Depuis 1991, personne ne nous apprend les métiers techniques. Dans ces conditions, comment pouvons nous nous battre contre les Vietnamiens ? La puissance d'un pays réside dans la puissance de son industrie. Maintenant nous avons un réseau routier qui se développe. La crise de Preah Vihear nous a permis d'avoir une bonne route vers ce temple. Il va avoir une bonne route entre Stung Treng - Anlong Veng et Sisophon. Ainsi petit à petit nous avons un bon réseau routier le long de nos frontières de l'Ouest. Il nous reste l'équivalent le long de nos frontières à l'Est. Et aussi la rénovation de notre ligne de chemin de fer. L'année prochaine, il y a prévision pour exporter environ 200 000 tonnes de riz. Il nous faut former rapidement des milliers, voire des dizaines de milliers d'ingénieurs et de techniciens de bon niveau pour développer notre industrie. Très peu ne nos compatriotes à l'étranger le comprennent. Ils se lancent principalement dans la politique. Or la puissance économique est la base de toute politique. Notre infériorité envers nos voisins réside dans l'ignorance de notre peuple. Instruire le peuple est la base de toute politique sérieuse. Peut-on instruire le peuple dans des langues étrangères ? Bien amicalement -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this
Re: Norodom Sihanouk and his golden era?
How much humanity have to pay more and more in name of peace, of development, of reconciliation, forgiveness or all kind of stupid excuses to allow this kind of criminals like sihanouk and his band to escape from the crimes committed? And though continue to commit more and more crime in all impunity. How long the victims have to endure this kind of crimes, moral endurement by the profanation of crimes, of criminals and all kind of slurs and racist slurs from these criminals and their bands? In more of countless crimes already committed, sihanouk joined the Vietcong to lead genocide against Khmer. Sihanouk is a criminal as any criminal. - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Norodom Sihanouk and his golden era? In Camdisc:There are numerous books about Cambodia tragic past. First I respect your argument, but give me one example of which regime was better than SRN of His Majesty former king ? People whom you asked why they like SRN of Norodom Sihanouk, and they did not why, I think you asked a wrong person. Majority of Cambodian from the lowest to the highest agreed the golden era of Khmer kingdom after colonial was Sangkum Reast Niyum of fomer king Norodom Sihanouk, why ? The country was peace, stable, prosperity and gave birth to a new renaissance of the old shattered kingdom .Did you know how many years the country had live under control of Siam and Viet prior to the arrival of France ? Thank to France saving Cambodia, otherwise there would be no country we called Cambodia today. France had worked hard to reconstruct and defended the kingdom from annexation of the West and the East, that why we see most of French Residence Superiors were Khmer Historians like Moura, Etienne Aymonier ( I read his 4 volumes book, Le Cambodge actuel ).As I said the cold war had ripple affect to the small countries like Cambodia whose sovereign was undermined by others .The Vietnam war was a major factor of Cambodia downfall, I agreed with David Chandler, but the during the course of the war, Cambodia was just a side Show of super power, according to William Shawcross. There was a mistake had been made in part from the fomer king, but he attempted to rectify also, but was late, the situation was boiling down to the no return point. Fighting back against Khmer Republic was a personal revenge, according to Steven Heder, but if the Khmer Republic leaders followed the footstep of Phibul Songkram in the Thai coup 1932, it would not be a major catastrophy. But Khmer Republic went the other way around, personal attacks, condemned him to death, the Vietcong and Khmer Rouges were happy to see the drama.All of these were considered as irresponsible acts the leaders at that time, the country was at full fledge of war and ultimately felt to the hand of murderous Khmer Rouge. On Sep 15, 11:13 am, In Camdisc incamd...@yahoo.com wrote: Chetrasena, Many western scholars or historians do not have a clue what is going on inside Cambodia. Let me give you two examples, one David Chandler and Naranhkiri Tith. Don’t get me wrong, I do respects of their research, but in some grey area I don’t agree with them because they didn’t live through and then claims to know more than people who are facing with the reality. First, let me say about David Chandler, a well-known Khmer Historian. I met David Chandler…I have to stop her. Second, Naranhkiri Tith claims to know Khmer Rouge regime. However, he did not live under that regime. I have to stop here, too. Now for the Sangkum Reast Ang Kuy yum of Norodom Sihanouk. Agree, many Khmers did like him, I asked many of them, they like Norodom Sihanouk. No one can give me an answer. I believed everyone just follow the other tails. It is the same thing; I am asking the Democrats friends today. They claims John F. Kennedy is a good president. I asked what Kennedy did for United States of America to make him a good president? He was president from January 20, 1961 – November 22, 1963. None the Democrats friends answer me why? My question is what good did Norodom Sihanouk done for Khmers and the country? Norodon Sihanouk were in higher position many times , three times as head of State include head of state of Khmer Rouge regime. Ten times as Prime Minister and three times as the King. If you are comparing Norodom Sihanouk with his power to other country, then Norodom Sihanouk is a dictator. Then the coupe in 1970 is the right thing to do. Head of State: 20 Jun 1960 - 18 Mar 1970 (1st time) The SangKum Reas Niyum 17 Apr 1975 - 11 Apr 1976 (2nd time) Khmer Rouge Regime 14 Jun 1993 - 24 Sep 1993 (3rd time) Prime ministers 18 Mar 1945 - 13 Aug 1945 (1st time) 28 Apr 1950 - 30 May 1950 (2nd time) 16 Jun 1952 - 24 Jan 1953 (3rd time) 7 Apr 1954 - 18 Apr 1954 (4th time) 3 Oct 1955 - 5 Jan 1956 (5th time) 1 Mar
Fw: La crise de Preah Vihear
P/S Par ailleurs j'aimerais vous préciser que, contrairement à vous, je ne crois pas que le Cambodge peut s'en sortir de la pauvreté, de l'esclavage, colonisation et génocide yuon en forment des petits manouvres ou techniciens pour faire avancer une société ou un gouvernement fantoche yuon. Comme je ne crois à ce gouvernement, ex khmer rouge clan,, placé par les yuons à fin de servir comme leur macabre manouvres politique expansionniste et génocidaire. Cela ne fait que faire les manouvres politiques yuons sur le Cambodge. Ce qui manque dans la société Cambodgienne se sont des têtes penseurs, des penseurs libres qui peuvent aider des Cambodgiens à pouvoir penser par eux même puise se libérer d'une minable d'esclavage, physique et mental des yuons dans tout le sens du thème. - Original Message - From: Bopha Angkor To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:52 PM Subject: Re: La crise de Preah Vihear Lok Vincent, Je suis totalement d'accord avec votre approche pour la compréhension de l'histoire et de la tragédie cambodgienne. Que ces yuons et ces autres sachent, ce n'est en voulant les accuser de quoi ce soit qu'on convoque ces aspects des choses mais surtout pour la compréhension du drame, de l'histoire et la responsabilisation du crime commis ce soit par un yuon ou un autre. Revenons à la fameuse histoire d'infinité franço-yuon que beaucoup en parlent, je ne pense pas que les colonisateurs français ont choisi les yuons pour rouler et anéantir le peuple khmer à leur place par sympathie ou par affinité pour les yuons mais surtout c'est un choix stratégique et politique de la part de ces incrédules colonisateurs français. La preuve ces viets qui ont été utilisés par la colonisation française qui ont été emmenés puise lâchés comme des bêtes à boucherie dans les macabres camps de réfugier ou camps de la honte (pour ne pas dire camps de concentration) en France. Beaucoup de ces viets y vivent encore et très minablement, habitué à des savanes, peu n'arrivent à trouver la sortie dans la grand ville. Pourtant ces viets ne sont pas des criminels ni prisonniers de guerre. C'est petit de la part de ces français. Quoi qu'il soit, à cause de cette politique, mise en avant les yuons, par la colonisation française, permettant ainsi des yuons de prendre un gros pas en avant sur les Cambodgiens, déjà très affaiblis et anéantis par des guerres, des massacres et des génocides incessant commis soit les siams, la plus part du temps par les yuon depuis le temps de post Angkor. Ainsi ces français donnaient à ces viets plus du pouvoir, des facilités et des possibilités de contrôler, de coloniser le Cambodge et organiser des crimes atroces contre le peuple à fin de achever leur but et leur rêve suprême celle d'exterminer le peuple khmer pour les voler la terre et des ressources nécessaires pour les yuon à survivre et épand leur race. A bientôt - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: La crise de Preah Vihear Chers Tous: Durant la période coloniale les Français aidaient les Vietnamiens en tout, particulièrement en sciences et techniques avant en parallèle le développement de la langue vietnamienne romanisée. Au Kampuchea Krom tout est fait pour empêcher les Cambodgiens à s'instruire, en particulier en langue cambodgienne. Au Cambodge, la même chose. Au point de vue pêcherie, il faut acheter des lots. Seuls les Vietnamiens pouvaient emprunter à la banque pour les acheter. Au Cambodge, tous les services techniques sont entre les mains des Vietnamiens, sans exception, y compris la police et les interprètes pour s'adresse aux Cambodgiens. Depuis 1991, personne ne nous apprend les métiers techniques. Dans ces conditions, comment pouvons nous nous battre contre les Vietnamiens ? La puissance d'un pays réside dans la puissance de son industrie. Maintenant nous avons un réseau routier qui se développe. La crise de Preah Vihear nous a permis d'avoir une bonne route vers ce temple. Il va avoir une bonne route entre Stung Treng - Anlong Veng et Sisophon. Ainsi petit à petit nous avons un bon réseau routier le long de nos frontières de l'Ouest. Il nous reste l'équivalent le long de nos frontières à l'Est. Et aussi la rénovation de notre ligne de chemin de fer. L'année prochaine, il y a prévision pour exporter environ 200 000 tonnes de riz. Il nous faut former rapidement des milliers, voire des dizaines de milliers d'ingénieurs et de techniciens de bon niveau pour développer notre industrie. Très peu ne nos compatriotes à l'étranger le comprennent. Ils se lancent principalement dans la politique. Or la puissance économique est la base de toute politique. Notre infériorité envers nos voisins réside dans l'ignorance de notre peuple. Instruire le peuple est la
Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend
អ្នកឯងលប់វង្វេងខ្លួនឯងទេដឹង សម្លកកូរនិងសម្លប្រហើមានបន្លែនិងគ្រឿងផ្សំមិនសូវខុសគ្នាប៉ុន្មានទេ ក្រាន់តែ សម្លកកូរគេប្រើប្រាស់បន្លែនិង គ្រឿងផ្សំច្រើនជាងហើយមានរបៀបចំអិនខុសគ្នាប៉ុណ្ណោះ គេមិនប្រើប្រាស់ស្ពៃក្នុងសម្លកកូរជាដាច់ខាត ព្រោះនាំអោយខូចឱជារសសម្លកកូរ ។ សម្លអ៊ំប្រុសខោចែវជាសម្លស្ងោរ (ស៊ុបបារាំងសេស) ប្រហែលអ៊ំប្រុសខោចែវគ្រាន់ តែចង់ដឹងតើពួកអ្នកឯងមួយចំនួនស្គាល់ម្ហូបខ្មែរឬទេ? J ជ្រុលល្ហុងទុំប្រហែលជាមិនដូចរលង់ខួរដាយទឹកត្រីយួនទេ - Original Message - From: Campatriot People Power CPP កម្លាំងអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិ To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend សម្លកកូរមួយចាននេះ សម្លឹងមើល៎ទៅ រាងដូចជាសម្លប្រហើរអចឹង ។ អ្នកដែលផ្ញើររូបភាពមកនេះ ប្រហែលជាមានរោគវង្វេងហើយ ឬបានហូបផ្លែល្ហុងទុំច្រើនទាល់តែស្រពឹលអស់ភ្នែកហើយហ្នឹង !!! 2010/9/11 Khoar Chev kourk_chh...@yahoo.com សូមជូនសម្លរកកូរដល់មិត្ដទាំងអស់ពិសារក្នុង ចុងសប្ដារហ៍នេះ! សម្លរកកូរឆ្ងាញ់ពិសារសម្លរដូនតាចែកទុកអោយ សូមខ្មែរក្មេងចាស់ទាំងមុនក្រោយ កុំបីបណ្ដោយអោយបាត់បង់។ Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia
It’s clear enough. It shows the total submission of cpp gang to yuons. The problem is, these yuons tools didn’t only sold and soil their brain and dignity to yuons but the whole Cambodia and they continue to eliminate those who refuse domination or struggle against yuon genocide and colonization. On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:14 PM, S. Sophan sopha...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: -- Forwarded message -- From: Visal R ...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 9:26 AM Subject: Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia To: When the Viet prime over Cambodia Contraversy: Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture in Phnom Penh, Cambodia Vietnamese President Nguyen Minh Triet's picture. www.youtube.com CLICK HERE TO WATCH VIDEO CLIP -- R. Visal Philadelphia, PA -- Sophan S. Khmer-Canadian Buddhist Cultural Centre http://www.cambodianview.com Wherever we go, wherever we remain, the results of our actions follow us. -- Buddha There's only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self. ~ Aldous Huxley What they must have are: inner mastery; a central, compelling purpose rooted in moral values; a capacity to persuade; skills in working within the system; a fast start; a strong, effective team; and a passion that inspires others to keep the flame alive. - David Gergen, Eyewitness to Power I start with the promise that the function of leadership is to produce more leaders, not more followers - Ralph Nader -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org
Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An Introduction
វាជាការមួយគួរអោយអនិច្ចាណាស់ដែលពួកឱកាសនិយម តាមស៊ីពែ, តាមស៊ីបុណ្យស៊ីហានុមួយចំនួន នៅតែខំត្រដផ្សព្វផ្សាយបុណ្យស៊ីហនុដើម្បីបោកប្រាស់ខ្មែរបែបនេះទៅកើត ។ មិនមែនតែឈាមជរ័ដែលរត់ក្នុងខ្លួន ស៊ីហនុដែលមានពណ៌ក្រហមជាំខ្មៅ តែចិត្តគំនិតនិងខ្លួនប្រាណរបស់ជននេះ និងពពួកតាមស៊ីពែរបស់ជននេះ សុទ្ធតែប្រលាក់ជោគជាំដោយឈាមខ្មែរស្លូតត្រង់ ។ បើប្រៀបធៀបជាមួយស្តេចសៀម ជនទាំងពីរពិតជាដើរលើអក្ស័ ផ្ទុយគ្នា ។ ស្តេចសៀមគេបម្រើជាតិសាសន៍គេយ៉ាងស្មោះស្មគ្រ័បំផុត ឯស៊ីហនុគ្រាន់តែជាកញ្ចះដាច់ថ្លៃរបស់ យួនតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ។ ស៊ីហនុសុខចិត្តរត់ទៅធ្វើជាកញ្ចះយួនជាមួយប៉ុល-ពត ដើម្បីដឹកនាំការកាប់សម្លាប់បំបាត់ ពូជសាសន៍ខ្មែរតាមខ្សែញាក់របស់យួនព្រោះតែប៉ុល-ពតនិងស៊ីហនុចង់បានអំណាចមួយនៅក្នុងទ្រុងដែករបស់យួន និងលើគំនរឆ្អឹងខ្មែរ ។ មហាវិនាសកម្មដែលបក់បោកមកលើជាតិខ្មែរ និងការបាត់បង់ទឹកដីខ្មែរជាបន្តបន្ទាប់សុទ្ធតែជាស្នាដៃរបស់ស៊ីហនុជា មួយបរទេសជិតខាង ។ តើជននេះនិងបក្សពួកជននេះ មានដែលមានវិប្បដិសារីដែរឬទេ? មិនត្រឹមតែប៉ុណ្ណោះ ពួកនេះនៅតែបន្តការផ្សាយបោកប្រាស់ខ្មែរពីបុណ្យស៊ីហនុតទៅទៀត។ មែន, ស៊ីហនុពិតជាមានឥទ្ធិពលខ្លះលើ សង្គមខ្មែរមែន តែឥទ្ធិពលនេះស៊ីហនុមិនបានយកទៅបម្រើខ្មែរដែលជាម្ចាស់នៃអំណាចនេះទេ ស៊ីហនុបែរជាយក ទៅបម្រើបរទេសជិតខាងប្រឆាំងនឹងខ្មែរ នឹងផលប្រយោជន៏ខ្មែរទៅវិញ ។ តើសមផលឬទេចំពោះពួកជនដែលហ៊ានតែជេរ ឬតវ៉ាជាមួយពួកគណបក្សប្រជាជនតែបែជាលត់ក្រាបជាមួយ ជនដែលជាកញ្ចះយួនដាច់ថ្លៃលើសពួកនេះទៅទៀត? ខ្ញុំសូមប្រកាស, ជនណាក៏ដោយដែលគាំទ្រឬលុតក្រាបជាមួយ ស៊ីហនុឬ ពពួកស្តេចណាមួយដែលជាប់ទាក់ទិនជាមួយយួនដោយប្រការណាមួយសុទ្ធតែជាសត្រូវរបស់ជាតិខ្មែរ ។ - Original Message - From: Chetrasena sdokkokt...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Federation Republic of Vietcamlao (CamLaoViet?): An Introduction KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun Sen . Whether you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the world is doing business with especially American, he will meet the US President this month . Do not forget American soldiers provided training and assisting Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the Lon Nol .That is the new era of US policy, stability and security are the main concern of USA ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power against it citizen are not American business, they are Cambodian business, there are plenty of dictators around the world .Hun Sen rules Cambodia longer than his predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and Pol Pot combined .There is no need to blame Hanoi, for the sake of United Vietnam the countries of Lao and Cambodia must be included .Along with rapid expansion policy of Vietnam, the Ferderation will be financed by both Japanese and Korean with the help of American, EU and Australia .The new generation of Cambodian is happy with that move. For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their plan.because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom The people of the three countries are freely moving from one place to another, no border no visa no restriction .Yes, there are an obstacle for the unity of the three countries too, especially among the stubborn Cambodian people who opposed the plan and being hostile to the regime, but just a small ban of subversive elements soon to be branded as terrorist group whom has no sympathy from other people. The words of insurgencies or rebellions are no longer used as this day for every ruling government. On Sep 10, 2:04 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Chetrasena; I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the dissents and opposition activists. Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and Vietnam. I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their perspective about their relationship with
Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend
Good remark Om Bros. No I dont have troyoung chek for this time. First it is rare and expensive and I don’t know how to whiter it so I often replace by something else. We generally can use a bunch of vegetal to accompany Nom Banhchok somlor Khmer. I sometime use thieng spie chin or porpeay to replace troyoung chek, not bad at all, you can try. Recently a friend of mine asked me to try spey chrouk and I adopt it at one because it marries well with nom Banhchok. If you like acid taste with Nom Banhchol, you should try it. Regards - Original Message - From: Khoar Chev To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend Kmuoy Srei, I just had my NomBanh Chok last weekend, my wife also made Teuk Pha-em to go with somlar Khmer, but I don't really like Teuk Pha-em, I used only Teuk Samlar Sott. Your Nom Banh Chok look delicious, but where is Onlourk Troyoang Chek? I'll leave the DA alone, don't want to waste my time with. Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Sat, 9/11/10, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: From: Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr Subject: Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 1:04 PM អ្នកឯងលប់វង្វេងខ្លួនឯងទេដឹង សម្លកកូរនិងសម្លប្រហើមានបន្លែនិងគ្រឿងផ្សំមិនសូវខុសគ្នាប៉ុន្មានទេ ក្រាន់តែ សម្លកកូរគេប្រើប្រាស់បន្លែនិង គ្រឿងផ្សំច្រើនជាងហើយមានរបៀបចំអិនខុសគ្នាប៉ុណ្ណោះ គេមិនប្រើប្រាស់ស្ពៃក្នុងសម្លកកូរជាដាច់ខាត ព្រោះនាំអោយខូចឱជារសសម្លកកូរ ។ សម្លអ៊ំប្រុសខោចែវជាសម្លស្ងោរ (ស៊ុបបារាំងសេស) ប្រហែលអ៊ំប្រុសខោចែវគ្រាន់ តែចង់ដឹងតើពួកអ្នកឯងមួយចំនួនស្គាល់ម្ហូបខ្មែរឬទេ? J ជ្រុលល្ហុងទុំប្រហែលជាមិនដូចរលង់ខួរដាយទឹកត្រីយួនទេ - Original Message - From: Campatriot People Power CPP កម្លាំងអ្នកស្នេហាជាតិ To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Somlar Karko for this weekend សម្លកកូរមួយចាននេះ សម្លឹងមើល៎ទៅ រាងដូចជាសម្លប្រហើរអចឹង ។ អ្នកដែលផ្ញើររូបភាពមកនេះ ប្រហែលជាមានរោគវង្វេងហើយ ឬបានហូបផ្លែល្ហុងទុំច្រើនទាល់តែស្រពឹលអស់ភ្នែកហើយហ្នឹង !!! 2010/9/11 Khoar Chev kourk_chh...@yahoo.com សូមជូនសម្លរកកូរដល់មិត្ដទាំងអស់ពិសារក្នុង ចុងសប្ដារហ៍នេះ! សម្លរកកូរឆ្ងាញ់ពិសារសម្លរដូនតាចែកទុកអោយ សូមខ្មែរក្មេងចាស់ទាំងមុនក្រោយ កុំបីបណ្ដោយអោយបាត់បង់។ Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe
Re: Vietnamese Democide
Listen up a konkak, you can believe anything or say any stupid thing that pass by your brain if that can feed the ill pathetic brain of your kind and to release your pain and your hatred of Khmer but don't never call me friend again. Don't never vomit this word friend from your ill pathetic crap. The way your kind use it, you didn't only soil and insult me but this word too. - Original Message - From: kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Vietnamese Democide My friend, You use the word create , and you are right. Khmer Rogue and its coalition including Sihanouk used Vietnamese support to make its force to be competitive. After saying that, we still can't face the facts. Those people who were in that Khmer Rouge regime were alll Cambodians. Today, people are saying the same thing. They say that current government is an entity of Vietnam. Even when we think like that as the truth, the fact remains the same. The people in that government are all Cambodians. Further rhetoric is even worse. In their mind, they see it this way. Then they turn to fight each other for power. We have seen it again and again from one generation to another of Cambodia. So even when we completely believe that Vietnamese are behind all of the Cambodian illnesses, we cannot change the fact that Cambodians fight each other for power so they can corrupt and practice the culture of impunity over no one but their own people in their own country. What kind of Cambodians are they? On Sep 8, 12:10 pm, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Lehai, Thank for your effort to share your point of views over this issue no matter. There are tones of documents that have been posted here and elsewhere to demonstrate how yuons created Khmer rouge, maneuver this movement and through it, organized genocide against Khmer to overcome yuon ancestral expansionist and genocidal culture and policy. If the yuons or someone didn't read these documents it isn't mean that documents or proofs doesn't exist. The reasons I don't reply to some yuons or yuon dogs here even they perceive to come with same else things and stupidity it is because I judge it is so sinister and a lot of time to do. The rare time I chose to reply only while it come to necessary and in any case not to converse, alert or inform this kind of sinister individuals but just a general information for public or to rend money to its piece. My friend, We care more or less of what you want to do. You are not the subject for this discussion. If you do, I suggest that you stop it. All the yuons can do is to cry to racial victims of those who are victims of yuon hideous atrocities while it come of responsibility or while people dress these yuons face to their horrible crime and atrocity. I found that so ill and poor pathetic Vietnamese don't have to cry for anything. Cambodia is not superior to Vietnam. Vietnamese have alread had a political establishment. Their political structure has been established for a very longtime. Cambodia on the other hand, still seeking for their own identity politically. So don't think that Veitnamese cry for being victimized by Cambodians. The fact is clear that Cambodian khmer Rouge went into Vietnam and destroyed villages along the border, and they killed Vietnamese villagers . I don't know what you said about that. Even when you believe that khmer rouge were very bad, you cannot change the fact that those khmer rouge are Cambodians. Tha'ts right. i am saying that Cambodians did invade vietnam during the khmer rouge era. Here are couple others that would fuel you more. Khmer Rouge killed their own people in millions and brought their own country to a stone age in the name of rebuilding the country. On the other hands, Vietnam jailed their own people and brain washed them to become a part of their new society. Today they are all living in a country called Vietnam as a country. They are calling for Cambodia this and that as Cambodians do all the time. Cheers http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html - Original Message - From: LeHai keo.c...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Vietnamese Democide The topic of Vietnamese[Hanoi] hands behind Khmer Rough can be found in the documentary film Year Zero. The documentary briefly explains the love hate and power struggle relationship between these two forces. Let us remember that Khmer Rough is a brain child, an extension of the Vietnamese Communist party that went rogue and quite ballistic because there were also some Khmer intellect and nationalist in the moment. The Khmer Communist that Vietnam helped to create had both Khmer intellect, nationalist, and Khmer ignorant and poor peasants who were eager to rise
Re: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed
Lok Savun, WK A bunch of us know what’s really going on in our motherland, what’s her sickness but we are too minority comparing to other kind to reverse the situation or change the face of history and to stop this sad tragedy of Cambodia. It’s nothing terrible to feel impotent face to enemies who are eating your kind alive under your very eyes and you cant do much thing. Yet my message is, yuons won little or perhaps big battle fight by little and inhuman barbaric animosity way against so much life but youns did not yet win the war and the war is not only mean confrontation by arm or muscles or number. Of course, you can believe a lot of thing but to deny or ignore yuon/ccp capacity in leading its dirty political scheme and control beyond Cambodian border is a big prejudice which leads to big error and tragedy as a lot of our elders did in the past. Regards Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Watkeo Kuma To: camdisc fan Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:35 AM Subject: RE: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed Dear all, Is that American grant? I believe that RFA is depending on American grant to run this program, and whatever issue or confliction among them. There is a solution let go before the grant run out or get smaller, otherwise the time those currently working won’t be warrantee for job security. I don’t believe that CPP or AhSrokeiy had ability to lay hand on this media before it. If they do, I will laugh from the distance to see this organization got weakness, by a fool trap worldwide of American's former enemy. WK -- - Original Message - From: In Camdisc To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 9:49 PM Subject: Re: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed Bopha, RFA was hitting from all fronts. As you may ready know, Cambodian Government never want to keep RFA to broadcast inside Cambodia. Because they do not have full control over RFA; any ways, gig government of Democrats’ ideology is normal. The listeners population of RFA is smaller than The Voice of America, where the voice of U.S government. Moreover, the Voice of America, they are broadcasting from a relay out of Thailand through AM frequency, easy to reach than shortwave broadcast of RFA. Savun From: bophaang...@free.fr To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 20:59:02 +0200 Dear all, I don’t know all sacred details of Khmer RFA staffs member to judge what’s really going on with RFA Khmer but the war must be a so burning. All I know is the yuons and cpp want to have a full hand on this media as yuons/cpp did in Cambodia and elsewhere. All concern Cambodia is a hot battle fight for yuons. Yuons wont vomit out a meal well chewed and already in its stomach. Lok Pen Somkhon, ex patron of RFA Khmer and a Khmer tendency was fired out to be replaced by someone else. It was an ill and low maneuver against him though. It’s amazing to hear Cambodia, specially among xkhmer politichiens like hun, khiev, nam gives lesson of democratic or laws to a strong American institution that done to spread equality and democracy like RFA, which I don’t interfere here particularly case and interpersonal problem but only the principle. It was a good publicity for this yuon shadow government from your organization though Regards Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Ath Bonny To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:51 AM Subject: RE: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed Dear Bang, You are right. Not only RFA company, all business companies in Cambodia they has right to fire or lay off any workers at any times, but under the law. All business companies here from the world, include from republic of China and US embassy in Phnom Penh, they had respects the Cambodia labor law. Why RFA company? Regards, Phat From: camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of InCamdisc Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:26 AM To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: It is Funny that the richest media institution in the world had miss communication. RFA management team want to hide their dirty committed Sophat, All Cambodian government can do is expel. Because In this case
Re: Vietnamese Democide
Lehai, Thank for your effort to share your point of views over this issue no matter. There are tones of documents that have been posted here and elsewhere to demonstrate how yuons created Khmer rouge, maneuver this movement and through it, organized genocide against Khmer to overcome yuon ancestral expansionist and genocidal culture and policy. If the yuons or someone didn't read these documents it isn't mean that documents or proofs doesn't exist. The reasons I don't reply to some yuons or yuon dogs here even they perceive to come with same else things and stupidity it is because I judge it is so sinister and a lot of time to do. The rare time I chose to reply only while it come to necessary and in any case not to converse, alert or inform this kind of sinister individuals but just a general information for public or to rend money to its piece. All the yuons can do is to cry to racial victims of those who are victims of yuon hideous atrocities while it come of responsibility or while people dress these yuons face to their horrible crime and atrocity. I found that so ill and poor pathetic Cheers http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html - Original Message - From: LeHai keo.c...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Vietnamese Democide The topic of Vietnamese[Hanoi] hands behind Khmer Rough can be found in the documentary film Year Zero. The documentary briefly explains the love hate and power struggle relationship between these two forces. Let us remember that Khmer Rough is a brain child, an extension of the Vietnamese Communist party that went rogue and quite ballistic because there were also some Khmer intellect and nationalist in the moment. The Khmer Communist that Vietnam helped to create had both Khmer intellect, nationalist, and Khmer ignorant and poor peasants who were eager to rise to power. Face it, after living your life as a miserable and poor farmer boy, what ignorant person would not throw away the chance of becoming the strongest man in the country. Certainly Hun Sen didn't. He remained faithful with the original intention of the Communist Indochina block, to merge the Indochinese federation. Kangaroo keeps saying Khmer people hate Vietnamese, fine, let's say they do. But give them a reason why they shouldn't hate or be vigilant of our country? Here you are espousing and supporting the Nam Tien manifesto, it is even on your profile We will swallow Cambodia that you are one of those Vietnamese people and group that still holds this ambition. If China that you're a renegade province and wants to swallow you back into its country, wouldn't you do everything you can to protect that, even if it means to keep a constant reminder of resentful emotion? It is clearly a matter of national survival and people's need for space and their own independence. On Aug 20, 5:19 pm, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: Can you answer some of these questions since you seem to know alot? If Vietnamese is behind Khmer Rouge, why khmer rouge invaded vietnam and killed vietnamese villagers? If Vietnamees is behind khmer rouge, why did they have to invade cambodia to tople khmer rouge, the regime that they orchestrated as you suggested?\ Now, if CPP is behind Vietnamese, why are thousands and thousands of cambodians working for CPP? You tend to think thatat you are not one of those who joined the Vietnamese. Can you tell us why are those Cambodians today so stupid to working for Vietnam? I am begging you to explain these matters so we all can understand as you. Thank you On Aug 20, 11:56 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Lok Koeun Sam Ung after the definition of R.J Rummel, polpot and few comrades were sacrificed or politicide by yuons to be replace by another yuon political tools more easy for yuons to handle for failing to obey to yuons orders and yuon wills as the cpp clan did. Or it's just a step of yuon political strategies. Polpot and few of his comrades has no other choice than to face their old masters while these last ones didn't need them anymore or just want to eliminate them from the yuon political spinal column. Pham van dong said, yuons know what to do with their creatures or political tools/pets, while to use bottom and while to satisfy with a piece meat. - Original Message - From: Koeun Sam Ung To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Vietnamese Democide STATISTICS OF DEMOCIDE Chapter 6 Statistics Of Vietnamese Democide Estimates, Calculations, And Sources* By R.J. Rummel Genocide: among other things, the killing of people by a government because of their indelible group membership (race, ethnicity, religion, language). Politicide: the murder of any person or people by a government because of their politics
Re: A POLITICAL CON-ARTIST
Dear all, Lok Prety Ma, In spite of our different point of view over Cambodia and her political aspects or solutions, I always respect and consider you as a decent adversary, a person that still have some ultimate dignity and humanity in your conscience but now you just prove me the contrary. I believe to know who few extremist you refereeing to. You like some royalists believed that Ratha was influenced by the bad people. And I believe to known who bad people or extremist you people point to. Your people must know, Ratha is an integral person, he is master of his own. He’s alone who can decide what’s good or bad. Lok Ma, you views, your action is nothing but an act or a discourse of average yuon or cpp hard skin who try to protect their skin, clan or interest and nothing else. Reading your writing I believed reading a cpp or a yuon writing. Yuons can lead genocide against Khmer in seventy till now because yuons can establishment an enterprise of killing call Khmer rouge, now cpp, with elements like sihanouk, polpot, like hun sen, ect. Actually yuons can continue to lead this policy of silent extermination against Khmer people and nation because yuons can easily find another polpot, sihnouk, hun sen,ect to use against Khmer. In Khmer past history there were always this kind of Khmer rouge, cpp, sen, si etc that yuons can use against Khmer, not only during polpot time or now. Fortunately that in Khmer society there is another kind of Khmer who never subjugate and submit to yuons or by yuons. These people always stand against yuons, protect Khmer valor from culture of animosity and try to establish Khmer valor and order in the world where majority went through animal orders and totally subjected to it. I'm surprise that such the litttleness come from you. In spite of all, I was thinking you are better than that. It really revolts me that millions of Khmer people were dying of hunger, live in extreme poverty and misery, many thousands of kids and families living miserably of trash in Steng Meanchey ect left by yuons and some rich Phnompehniens while Cambodia has the so rich subsoil continually rapped by yuons while persecute Khmer or leave them with empty hands to better rape and rob their resources and land. Why? Public opinion may condemn a thieve who steal a piece of cloth or a piece of meal but never condemned such the terrible animosities and crimes against humanity committed by the yuons, directly or indirectly no matter, against so much life for its own comfort. What’s kind of human you are?! No I don’t worry or scare of Ratha’s ideas concerning “requirement for a CORRECT and PROPER application of Paris agreement with international involvement” and the real “establishment of Khmer people power” rejecting actual government created, topped and maintain to power by yuons that rules by fear, by fraud and the persecution of Khmer people for yuon interests because I’m the first one who defended these ideas and try to spread it over. If it happens to be a dream, just think of Martin Luther king dream. And Our Khmer dream is to free. Free from yuons, from yuon domination, yuon physical and mental slavery, from yuon persecution, from culture of animosity and littleness. If Khmer ancestors were little and see thing in little, they wont left such the sophisticate and sublime culture for Khmer which I’m so proud to be part of it. Nothing is impossible if you perceive to believe and give you way to seize it. I’m glad that Ratha take these ideas as his front political battle fight. I rather fell concerned about Ratha personality and his capacity to well carry these ideas and battle fight than anything else. Although Rather had some difference with me but honestly I don’t mind to have Rather as leader even Ratha was not a sayeur, a Thioulong, a thioun, a rainsy, a sisowath or a sihanouk or else as long as he has virtue and capacity to lead and protect national interest. I wish him the best. Stand high Ratha Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:51 PM Subject: A POLITICAL CON-ARTIST Dear Friends, Ratha's interview has touched some very raw nerves. It is the nature of the political beast. I think Pretty Ma overreacted? Yasith ran an armed organization against a government with which the United States holds diplomatic relations. My understanding is Ratha is seeking to establish a people power in Cambodia. Actually, I agree with Ratha's view that participating in Cambodia's general elections only serves to legitimize Hun Sen's rule, because Hun Sen will win. A similar situation exists in Burma, and democrats there said they are boycotting the elections. Regards From: sok...@netscape.net Date: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:10 AM Subject: Fwd: A POLITICAL CON-ARTIST To: infos.kh...@gmail.com, camdisc
Re: សម្ពោធទីស្នា ក់ការតំណាង វិទ្ យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ប្រចាំភ្នំពេញ ដើម្បីពង្រឹងទំ នាក់ទំនងកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម
Stupid in stupid out as always. Don’t a yuon from Canada said that the yuon race is the superior race because they have white skin and duck walk and the Khmer are stupid and ugly because they have dark skin. I have dark skin and really dark skin. I tan every time I have occasion to have more dark skin. Is there something wrong with the yuons here? Come on!!! I invite all yuons in this forum to come up with some thing bette to prove that yuon race is really superior race as yuons think they are, not this sad littleness and idiocy Just leave Khmer people alone from this yuon ill hateful and Nazis views…. - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: Re: សម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាង វិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ប្រចាំភ្នំពេញ ដើម្បីពង្រឹងទំនាក់ទំនងកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម Krakmo Kaing, What does Krakmo mean?? It can't be a Khmer name. It can`t be a Khmer word. Calm down. You don't live in Cambodia. You have no responsibility for the security and prosperity, especially the security, of Cambodia. The current Cambodian government is elected by the Cambodian people. You're elected by no one. Open your eyes to reality. Cambodia can't afford to have 2 much-bigger much-militarily-stronger enemies at her borders at the same time. Learn to put your deep ancestral racial hatred aside and open your eyes to the present. Buddha teaches that hatred leads to no solution; it simply leads to more hatred. Open your eyes to an example provided by the mid-east. The Palestinian faction, Hamas, that hates Israel is kept out of the negotiation between Israel and the Palestinan president Abbas. It's kept out by the Americans. The Americans don't want to have anything to do with haters. I`m wondering, why are the Americans deporting so many Khmers back to Cambodia, although those Khmers live in America legally, most committed only minor non-violent crimes, and all have served jail time. Isn`t it possible that the Americans now realize that the Khmers are racial haters?? Especially they hate a country that destroyed the evil Khmer Rouge regime and thus saved them from extinction that was attempted by their own race the Khmer Rouge?? (Most of these Khmers or their parents survived and were able to escape to refugees'`camps in Thailand only after Vietnam has annihilated the Khmer Rouge regime.) So the Americans may think that the Khmers accepted into America will hate America for having saved them by accepting them into America. Thus the Americans don`t want the Khmers. Next will be France's turn and later on Australia`s turn. Pheng Kim Ving On Sep 2, 3:17 am, Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@orange.fr wrote: គឺជាអំពើដែលដឹកនាំដោយ អ្នកនយោបាយខ្មែរ ខូចក្បាល លែងយល់នូវអ្វីដែលជាអធិប្បតេយ្យភាពរបស់ខ្មែរ ហើយល្ងិតល្ងង់ចោលម្សៀតបំផុត បើកដៃអោយសត្រូវសួរពូជ ខ្មែរចូលមករុករាន្តទន្ទ្រានដល់បេះដូងខ្មែរទៅហើយ ។ ក្រុមពួកកញ្ជះយួនទាំងនេះ ឈ្លក់វង្វេង ដោយសារពុករលួយ ដោយយួនបើកដៃអោយសប្បាយម៉ាអស់ចិត្ត លើគំនរទុក្ខនៃ ប្រជាពលរដ្ឋទាំងនគរ ។ ជ័យោ ពួកកញ្ជះយួន ! សូមអោយពួកទាំងនេះឆាប់វិនាសហិនហោចទៅ ។ Message du 02/09/10 06:02 De : cppamerican cppamerican A : camdisc@googlegroups.com Copie à : Objet : សម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាង វិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ប្រចាំភ្នំពេញ ដើម្បីពង្រឹងទំនាក់ទំនងកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម សម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាង វិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ប្រចាំភ្នំពេញ ដើម្បី ពង្រឹងទំនាក់ទំនងកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម cen.com.kh ដោយ : លីហូវ (ថ្ងៃទី 27 សីហា 2010) Y2mznmjinj គណៈអធិបតីកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម ក្នុងពិធីបើកសម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាងវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាមVOVប្រចាំរាជធានីភ្នំពេញ នាព្រឹកថ្ងៃទី២៧ ខែ សីហា ឆ្នាំ២០១០៕ Zdexywiwog គណៈអធិបតីកម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម ក្នុងពិធីបើកសម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាងវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាមVOVប្រចាំរាជធានីភ្នំពេញ នាព្រឹកថ្ងៃទី២៧ ខែ សីហា ឆ្នាំ២០១០៕ 1 of 2 ភ្នំពេញ: ទីស្នាក់ការតំណាង នៃវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ( VOV ) ប្រចាំ រាជធានីភ្នំពេញ ត្រូវបានបើកសម្ពោធជាផ្លូវការ នាព្រឹកថ្ងៃសុក្រទី២៧ ខែសីហា ឆ្នាំ២០១០ ។ ពិធីនៅសណ្ឋាគារ អាំងទែកុងទីណង់តាល់រាជធានី ភ្នំពេញ នាព្រឹកមិញ បានប្រារព្ធឡើង ក្រោមអធិបតីភាពដ៏ខ្ពង់ខ្ពស់ របស់លោក ង្វៀង មិញត្រៀត ( Nguyen Minh Triet ) ប្រធានរដ្ឋវៀតណាម, លោក វូ វ៉ាន់ហៀន អគ្គនាយកវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម និងលោក ខៀវ កាញារីទ្ធ រដ្ឋមន្ត្រីក្រសួងព័ត៌មានកម្ពុជា ព្រមទាំងថ្នាក់ដឹកនាំកម្ពុជា- វៀតណាម ជាច្រើនរូបផ្សេងទៀត ។ ការបើកសម្ពោធទីស្នាក់ការតំណាងវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាមប្រចាំភ្នំពេញនាពេលនេះ ត្រូវបានមន្ត្រីជាន់ខ្ពស់កម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម ចាត់ទុកថា ជាការពង្រឹងពង្រីកនូវទំនាក់ទំនងរវាងប្រទេសជិតខាងទាំង ពីរ ។ លោក វូ វ៉ាន់ហៀន អគ្គនាយកវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម បានថ្លែងក្នុងពិធីថាស្នាក់ការតំណាងនៃវិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ប្រចាំរាជធានីភ្នំពេញនេះ នឹងជាស្ពានថ្មីមួយ រួមចំណែកពង្រឹងពង្រីកចំណងមិត្តភាពប្រពៃណី កិច្ចសហប្រតិបត្តិការដ៏ល្អប្រសើរ រវាងរដ្ឋ និងប្រជាជន នៃប្រទេស កម្ពុជា និងវៀតណាម ។ ទីស្នាក់ការនេះ ក៏ជាការពង្រឹងទំនាក់ទំនងរវាង វិទ្យុសម្លេងវៀតណាម ជាមួយក្រសួងព័ត៌មាន ស្ថានីយ៍ផ្សាយសម្លេង វិទ្យុជាតិ របស់កម្ពុជា
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Dear Om bros, thank for your kind attention and advice. I believe to understand your purpose and conception of thing. You know while I write to this kind of people I don't want or expect to change these people, change their opinion or bring them to reasons but just bring up my opinion, my perception of truth and of valor. I rather dress it to another audient, not this one. Also I believe, there are at least two kind of this kid of people, the first one did that for a criminals political impulsion and second is the ones who, by their illusion, extreme fanatic and stupidity, fell and destroyed in the trap of the first one. That's the fate of the majority of Khmer rouge (they are of polpot or cpp) who always believe in yuons and set themselves as yuon tools to be used by the yuons. You cant save these last ones until them got eradicated by the yuons like other khmer rouge. These people should know, the khmer rouge are themselves, not others. The most tragic in the story some seem to have relation got kill by the yuon killing machine through yuon cannibalistic expansionist and genocidal policy in Cambodia but still pray yuons, dispute between their kind to eat and drink from yuon toilet. It is with this kind of people that the killing field can be possible. That's yuons can operate genocide in Cambodia even our people (republicans) tried to fight from all their force to push yuons and yuon killing tools away from our border during sixty and seventy. You may what this kind of people worth to my eye. Somewhat the big inequality of men is not the richness of material but of beauty and quality of mind and of intelligence. - Original Message - From: Khoar Chev To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Fwd : Watt Dear Kmuoy Bopha, Kmuoy don't need to waste time with these guys, like Phlom Kluy oay krobai sdabb , they don't want to think far, they see only the good part as the Viets came to save their ass from the KR, now they accuse me as a KR while they are barking to praise a government who lead by a KR, what a pathetic! Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 8/16/10, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: From: Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr Subject: Re: Fwd : Watt To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 2:48 AM That's the yuon's way, the yuon version of things and of history in the genocide against Khmer people. But everyone know that Khmer rouge (of polpot or of cpp) are ever yuon political tools. Khmer rouge always work for yuon interest. Yuons were motors and master of Khmer rouge. It was the yuons (vietcons) who created, manipulated and trained the Khmer rouge group to lead genocide against Khmer nation and people since polpot time till to day to overcome yuon ancestral and cannibalistic hegemony and expansionist ambition against Khmer people and people around. - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Fwd : Watt khmer sralanh khmer, Isnt it true that your Khmer race was rescued by Vietnam from extinction attempted by your own Khmer race the Khmer Rouge? The Khmer Rouge started to massacre the Vietnamese people in Vietnam along the border with the then Khmer Rouges Kampuchea in 1977. Vietnam had to stop the killings (it did nothing against the Khmer Rouges massacre of the Vietnamese ethnics in Cambodia along with other Cambodians). So it destroyed the Khmer Rouge regime in January 1979. As a secondary consequential effect, the Cambodian people and your Khmer race were rescued from extinction as attempted by your Khmer Rouge. Even though the rescue was simply a secondary effect, its nonetheless a rescue. Youre hostile to Vietnam for having annihilated the Khmer Rouge regime. Therefore you must be a Khmer Rouge. Watch out!! Lots of my relatives, including entire families (father, mother, and all the children) were tragically murdered by the Khmer Rouge. Watch out! Youre also a Sam Rainsy Party member? Then dont use lies and hatred to attack the government. Use the truth if you can find one. If you live in the West or Australia or New Zealand, you must learn from their political behavior, and you must be aware that in those countries, racial hatred is illegal and punishable by imprisonment. Pheng Kim Ving On Aug 14, 12:23 am, khmer sralanh khmer khmer.sralanh.kh...@gmail.com wrote: -E-mail d'origine- De : hoeun hach
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listen up, whether you are kim hong, kim hing, nam hong, conkak, jaya yuon or jaya whover , I don't consider those who used by yuons or committed crimes with yuons and for yuons are simple idiots but CRIMINALS. That 's our DIFFERENT conception of things and of valor. Fortunately for Khmer and for humanity that there are another kinds of people who are different from your kind and who always tried to fight to preserve some human valor and dignity that are precious to humanity to distingue human from simple animal . You hold yuon discourse and yuon political game regard to genocide against Khmer people committed by the yuons and yuon tools and you are not the only one or the last one either. That's your right and your way of life. I just brought up another part and another side of truth, of history. It is people who have some humanity and still have some honesty in heart who can make different and distingue false from truth, right from wrong. For the rest let history and facts talk for itself, not what the yuons want it to be or what people to see or understand. http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html As for Laos and Khmer Krom case, it is not because there is no one or no genocide denounced by a powerful institution or a group of people to say there is on genocide in Laos or Kampuchea krom (actual south vietnamm) Laos rouge and khmer rouge come from the same sources, the yuons. If they are different in form but certainly not different in found. How many or many millions innocent people in Laos and in Kampuchea krom were exterminated in silent by yuons (haroy*) under everyone eye to robe land natural resources of these people for yuon population? How many groups of native people in Laos and in Kampuchea krom were repressed, exterminated or butchered, by yuons to robe land of these people? No one say a word about it because these people are too weak, cant defend themselves against yuons and too insignificant to the eyes of certain people or institutions to be protected. So they are to be sacrificed as sheep for butcher. Now youns can freely exploit and control everything (resources, social, politics, economics) in Laos and in Cambodia to their guise as yuons did in Kampuchea krom. Cham people were eradicated from the world by yuons. Now Lao people, Cambodian people, Khmer krom people become minority in their own homeland, live in extreme misery and poverty, private from all basic rights and resources. It's not need to be a big brain to understand what yuons did against these people except for those who vouch yuon atrocity and crimes against these people - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Fwd : Watt Dear Bopha Angkor, The Khmer Rouge always worked for Vietnam interest?? D'ohh!! Then why did they also massacre the ethnic Vietnamese in Cambodia, and later on massacre the Vietnamese people in Vietnam along the border?? The communist Vietnamese also created the communist Laotians. But the communist Laotians didn't commit a genocide against their own people the Laotian people. If the Vietnamese trained the Khmer Rouge to commit the gencide against the Cambodian people, then why did the Khmer Rouge apply the training?? Why didn't they ignore it?? If a foreigner trains you to commit a genocide against your own people, would you carry it out?? Would you even attend the training till completion?? Saying that the Khmer Rouge committed the genocide against their own people because foreigners trained them to do so implies that the Khmers are so idiotic that they can be trained to commit a genocide against their own people. Do you think that you the Khmers are that idiotic?? D'ohh!! Pheng Kim Ving On Aug 16, 5:48 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: That's the yuon's way, the yuon version of things and of history in the genocide against Khmer people. But everyone know that Khmer rouge (of polpot or of cpp) are ever yuon political tools. Khmer rouge always work for yuon interest. Yuons were motors and master of Khmer rouge. It was the yuons (vietcons) who created, manipulated and trained the Khmer rouge group to lead genocide against Khmer nation and people since polpot time till to day to overcome yuon ancestral and cannibalistic hegemony and expansionist ambition against Khmer people and people around. - Original Message - From: Pheng Kim Ving phengkimvi...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Fwd : Watt khmer sralanh khmer, Isnt it true that your Khmer race was rescued by Vietnam from extinction attempted by your own Khmer race the Khmer Rouge? The Khmer Rouge started to massacre the Vietnamese people in Vietnam along the border
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Sorry Lok Vincent, that my entire fault. I rarely read KY text which I found nothing neither to learn nor to interest specially for Khmer interest. Otherwise, you message was so cloudy though. But the lesson is, no matter how good or bad that the thing should be and whether from a friend or enemy, you must learn it to understand people and thing around. Cordially Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com ; Khmer Young Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Are Khmers affected by psychological attempt? Mlle. Bopha D'Angkor, The proverb is from Khmer Young. Khmer Young, please give your source to support this proverb. A+ Vince.T How hard it is, sometimes, to trust the evidence of one's senses! How reluctantly the mind consents to reality. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Mr Thach, I believe myself to know my country, my culture, mine, learn and read bunch of stuffs about Khmer and Khmer culture but never saw this kind of so called Khmer proverb mentioned somewhere. Are you sure that this is yuon perception of thing and of Khmer? You are a leader of a community perpetually and savagely repressed and persecuted by yuons, victims of yuon ever genocide against your country and your people. You pretend to be a militant to fight against yuon crimes to save your community, country and people from yuons, where do you want to go then with this kind of mentality and perception of things, of yuons and of Khmer? Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Vincent Thach To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Are Khmers affected by psychological attempt? Let hope inspire you, but let not idealism blind you. Proverb. Don't look back, you can never look back.~ Don Henley == Don't forget the Khmer proverb saying that one fool Vietnamese is equal to 10 wise Khmers. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 Are Khmers affected by the psychological attempt? Vietnamese might know very well that to insert such psychological statement benefits more in dividing and disappointing Khmers...after the war, Khmers cannot stand up again...Khmers are so weary now...and psychologists said major Khmers might halt their struggle etc The win-win strategy has appeared in many faces including the Vietnamese popular practicing: divide and conquer or carrot and stick or borrow your sword to slaughter you or kill them don't let them die immediately etc. From now on, you can mindfully check the causes of Khmer fighting against Khmers. The division have possibly been planned by the Vietnamese. Saying this, not only Cambodians in Cambodia, Cambodian communities and diaspora in abroad are also full of Vietnamese-Khmer who have utilized all their talents to divide the Khmers. Don't forget the Khmer proverb saying that one fool Vietnamese is equal to 10 wise Khmers. My personal observation, I has seen Vietnamese-Khmers have extremely expressed hatred towards Vietnamese more than the Khmers. And many those Vietnamese-Khmers have always talked to the Khmers such as Cambodia is totally controlled by the Vietnamese, or Vietnamese spies are everywhere in Cambodia, or stop studying because Vietnamese have taken all jobs, or the Khmer Rouge is so brutal, or Lon Nol is the main cause of war, or if they support CPP they will curse at SRP badly, or if they support SRP they will curse at CPP badly...etc. So all these are coming with intent. The intent to psychologically frighten Cambodians? Vietnamese might know very well that to insert such psychological statement benefits more in dividing and disappointing Khmers...after the war, Khmers cannot stand up again...Khmers are so weary now...and psychologists said major Khmers might halt their struggle etc I don't look down our Khmer compatriots, but in some situation we have accept our flaws. In short, Khmer public images (leaders) should not merely made a statement that affect the psychopath of Cambodians amid this complicate denominational tactic. Regards, KY -- Cambodian Brighter Future depends on enduring conscience and tireless strivings of Cambodian Younger Generation! http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com
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This kind of discourse generally hold by the yuons/cpp to get away from their crimes and responsibility concerning corruption or other problem resembling problems is like comparing mouse and cow . The only resembling possible is they have four legs and one tail. STOP Pouk ah besach hut cheam khmer - Original Message - From: cppamerican cppamerican To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: _subject អរគុណណាស់ដែលលោកបានឆ្លើយតប! ក្នុងបរិបទជម្លោះដីធ្លីលោកមិនអាច ចាប់ច្បិចយកនូវភាពអវិជ្ជមាន មួយភាគតូចដែលបណ្ដាលមកពី គម្រោងការណ៍អភិវឌ្ឍន៍ទាំងឡាយដែលរាជរដ្ឋាភិបាលកំពុងនិងបានអនុវត្តនោះឡើយ ព្រោះថា វាជារឿងធម្មតាទេ ដែលគម្រោងការណ៍អភិវឌ្ឍន៍មួយចំនួន បានប៉ះពាល់ដល់ ការផ្លាស់ប្ដូរទីលំនៅប្រជាពលរដ្ឋមួយភាគតូច តែរាជរដ្ឋាភិបាល ទាំងក្រុមហ៊ុនដែលបានពាក់ពន្ធ រួមទាំងអង្គការសង្គមស៊ីវិល បានមូលមតិគ្នា ដោះស្រាយបញ្ហាវិវាទដីធ្លីបានជាស្ថាពរ ។ តែទោះជាយ៉ាងនេះក៏ដោយ ក៏មានជនអគតិមួយក្រុម តែងតែញុះញុង ព្រមទាំងបបួលប្រជាពលរដ្ឋ ដែលត្រូវរាជរដ្ឋាភិបាលសម្រេចចិត្ត តម្រូវឲ្យប្ដូរទីលំនៅដ្ឋាន ធ្វើកាតតវ៉ា ឬប្រឆាំងទាំងងងិតងងល់ ។ មួយវិញទៀត មិនថានៅកម្ពុជាឡើយ ទោះបីជានៅបស្ចឹមប្រទេសក្ដី នៅពេលណា ដែលរដ្ឋាភិបាលលោកមានគម្រោងការណ៍អភិវឌ្ឍន៍ធំៗ ជាពិសេសទាក់ទងនិង ប្រព័ន្ធហេដ្ឋារចនាសម្ព័ន្ធ គឺមានការចាំបាច់ ដែលតម្រូវឲ្យពលរដ្ឋផ្លាស់ប្ដូរទីលំនៅជាស្វ័យប្រវត្ត ដែលក្នុង ករណីនេះរាជរដ្ឋាភិបាល និងក្រុមហ៊ុនដែលបានពាក់ពន្ធ ត្រូវមានការសងថ្លៃខូចកាតទាំងប៉ុន្មានដល់ពលរដ្ឋណាដែលទាក់ទងនិងបញ្ហានេះ ។ ក្នុងបរិបទគម្រោងការណ៍អភិវឌ្ឍន៍ គឺវាជាការចាំបាច់បំផុត ដើម្បីធ្វើឲ្យសេដ្ឋកិច្ចនៅកម្ពុជាយើងរីកចំរើន ពលរដ្ឋនឹងមានការងារធ្វើ រកប្រាក់ចំណូលបាន ពោលគឺពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរនឹងមានជីវភាពប្រសើរជាមិនខាន៕ 2010/8/13 Krakmo Kaing krakmo.ka...@yahoo.fr ជំរាបសួរ, ពាក្សថា គំនិតជ្រុលនិយម របស់លោក ខ្ញុំមិនមានសិទ្ធអ្វីនឹងធ្វើកំណែពាក្សរបស់លោកនោះឡើយ ។ វាជាការយល់ឃើញ តាមសម្បជញ្ញៈរបស់លោក ។ ប្រតិកម្មរបស់ខ្ញុំពុំមែនកំរោលនោះទេ គ្រាន់តែសូមអញ្ជើញធ្វើការប្រៀបធៀបខ្លះផង ដោយប្រដូច និងអ្វីដែលគេតែងពោលរាល់ថ្ងៃ ៖ វាជឿនលឿនខ្លាំងណាស់ មានសំណង់ហេត្ថារច្ចណាសម្ព័ន.ជាមួយនិង ការលក់ដីធ្លី បណ្តេញប្រជា ពលរដ្ឋអ្នកក្រចេញពីទីលំនៅ ក្រោមលេសថាជា គំរោងអភិវត្តន៍ ជាពិសេស ការអភិវត្តន៍ដីធ្លី ស្អីដែលគេហៅថា ដីសម្បទានទៅអោយជនជាតិ យួន ជិតមួយសត្តវត្តន៍ ដីជិតអស់មួយចំហៀងនគរទៅទៀត! តើបុគ្គលជាឈាមខ្មែរណាមួយដែលមិនមានការព្រួយបារម្ភនោះ? ។ លោក ដែលសន្នម៉ត់ថា ខ្លួន CPPamerican នោះ វាដេកលក់ស្រួលស្រណុកណាស់ឬ ? បើខ្ញុំយល់មិនច្រឡំទេ លោកប្រហែលជាអ្នកអន្តរាគមន៍ថ្មី ម្នាក់ចូលមកក្នុងForum camdisc ជាដំណាងក្រុមអំណាចនៅភ្នំពេញ មកជួយឃោសនាអោយ នៅទីនេះ មែនទេ? ។ សូមលោកកុំព្រួយ វាមានមនុស្ស ដូចលោក ចូលមកទីនេះ ធ្វើការអុកឡុកសមជ្ជញ្ញៈអ្នក camdisc ច្រើនគ្នាមកហើយដែរ ។ ត្រង់ពួកគេបានជោគជ័យដែរឬទេ នោះ ខ្ញុំពុំអាចសន្និដ្ឋាន បានឡើយ ។ សូមអរគុណ De : camdisc@googlegroups.com [mailto:camd...@googlegroups.com] De la part de cppamerican cppamerican Envoyé : jeudi 12 août 2010 23:55 À : camdisc@googlegroups.com Objet : _subject Hello ខណះដែលខ្ញុំគ្រាន់តែបាន ពោលពាក្យថា អ្នកនិពន្ធហាក់ដូចជាមានគំនិតជ្រុលនិយម ស្រាប់តែអស់លោកបែរជា មានប្រតិកម្មទាំងគំរោលចូល ។ អ្វីដែលលោកបានលើកឡើងថា កម្ពុជាកំពុងតែត្រូវវិនាសមហន្ថរាយ តើលោកចង់មានន័យយ៉ាងណា? សូមលោកមេត្តាជួយអត្តាធិប្បាយឲ្យបានច្បាស់លាស់ ហើយឲ្យបានត្រប់ជ្រុងជ្រោយបន្តិចផង ! ជំរាបសួរ, វាអីចឹងហើយ ពីព្រោះលោកប្អូនបានទៅជាជនជាតិអាមេរិកាំង មានដើមកំណើតជាខ្មែរ(?) ហើយជាប់គំនិត្យជា CPP ទៅទៀត ។ បើទោះបីយ៉ាងណា ខ្ញុំសង្ឃឹមថា លោកប្អូននឹងបានក្រេបជញ្ជក់នូវ”សេរីភាពខាងការគឹតពិចារណា” freedom of conscience ដើម្បី ពិនឹត្យឡើងវិញ ថាតើ “គំនិត្យជ្រុលនិយមនោះ” វាជ្រុលមែនឬមិនមែន បើប្រៀបធៀបទៅនឹង ការទទួលខុសត្រូវរបស់អ្នកដឹកនាំខ្មែរ ដែលបានធ្វើអោយវិនាសអន្តរាយស្រុកទេស ដូចដែលយើងទាំងអស់បានដឹងបានឮមកហើយនោះ ។ ការឈឺចាប់មានទំហំធំធេងណាស់ វាមិនអាចរលត់រលាយទៅបាន ដោយត្រឹមតែការបានធ្វើហេដ្ឋារចនាសម្ព័ន ជាផ្លូវ ជាស្ជាន ក្រោម ការបង្ហូរជាប្រាក់រាប់រយលានដុល្លារក្នុង១ឆ្នាំៗ របស់សហគមអន្តរជាតិ រួចហើយថាជាគំនិត្យរបស់ខ្លួនឯងនោះ ។ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -- You received
Re: We are what we eat
Kongaroo akas hong chi kon, No you don't need your two screens to ask me same question. One is already too much. It is truth that dog meat has to be eating in other countries but it has difference aspect, level and sense comparing to yuon way or culture of eating dogs. Who influenced who? I'm not specialist of Chinese or Korean culture to well raise this question but one thing Am so sure is that, on this matter Cambodia or (FEW) Cambodians are largely influenced by yuons or yuon culture. The same, nothing can stop yuons not to export this yuons culture to Korean or china or inversely. No one can assure that this kind of thing that happen in Korean or elsewhere is not done by yuon individual, if not been influenced by, as it is happened in Cambodia but certainly doesn't has the same level or aspect as in Cambodia. During polpot time, millions of Khmer people were dying of hunger but rare are Cambodians who ate dogs, they prefer to eat leafs, insects or more to die than eating dogs. That's the KHMRER CULTURE AND MENTALITY which is different from the yuons. During polpot time you can hear dogs bark in village but While yuons decided to chase polpot from power to replace by another clan of yuon killing tools or the khmer rouge and massively colonized Cambodia, at one a lots of Cambodian villagers lost their dogs and most villages are silent for some time to come, Just few SAMPLES of yuon specialties of dog meat http://itstheirdestiny.2kat.net/Vietnam.html http://hanoiscratchpad.blogspot.com/2010/01/eating-dog-in-hanoi.html http://vietnam-travel.suite101.com/article.cfm/dog_meat_restaurants_in_vietnam http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/01/vietnam-dog-meat-restaurant/ http://www.google.fr/search?q=restaurant+of+dog+meat+in+vietnamhl=frsa=Xprmd=vsource=univtbs=vid:1tbo=uei=7RguTNnjEoP7lweQmbThCgoi=video_result_groupct=titleresnum=4ved=0CDAQqwQwAw On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:54 AM, kangaroo therabbitn...@yahoo.com wrote: For some reasons, you can't answer the questions pertaining to your writing. Here it is once again. Why is eating dogs and cats is yuon culture and identity? Does it mean that Koreans in South Korea who eat dog meat practice yuon culture too? Please enlighten me about this matter. Paleez. On Jun 16, 9:07 am, Bopha Angkor bophaang...@free.fr wrote: Eating dogs and cats is yuon culture and identity. Nothing to compare with some Cambodians who tasted this yuon food by curiosity. Some yuons just feel ashamed and try to turn thing upside down. These should should rather take their responsibility and proud for who they are. Yuons enjoyed dogs and cats meat while Khmer enjoy fish and prohok. I have no problem with yuons eating dogs or cats or whatever. It is yuon culture and identity so leave yuons with that. That's yuon way of life. I would really feel offense if someone interdict Khmer or judge Khmer people Khmer eat fish and prohok. I believe yuons ruled over Cambodia and Khmer society long enough to impose yuon thinking, yuon culture, yuon way of life to Khmer specially since the time of polpot. Even polpot and comrades were trained, ruled, reigned and influenced by yuons. Same for the cpp cadres. Being influenced by other is neither stupid nor an illness. In our life we are all were influenced by something, someone, someway, somehow. Perhaps the only difference is how our conscience or mental let one thing to influence or change over our thinking, our system valor, our way of life and have enough intelligence and mental force to resist and reject other or even fight against it. As for sihanouk monica, I don't ignore all the elements which pressed sihanouk to join with vietcon to bring vc genocide against Khme. But it is undeniable that monica had strongly influenced over sihanouk vital decision. Things would be really different if sihanouk didn't had monica as wife. Regards Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Hong Chi Kong To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: Re: We are what we eat Regardless the reason are, khmer men eat dog meat like the VC. The number of VC who eat dog meat is only a small part of the entire VC poplulation and the number of khmer who eat dog meat is also a small portion. Unless you use one rule for the VC and another rule for the khmer, then I can understand. If the khmer could not resist the VC influences, the the khmer is doomed. As for almost entirely blame Monique. I have to disagree with you. Xihanouk was panic when he see Diem(?) was overthrown or assassinated. So, he dumped american right away. Xihanouk/Tioulong knew very well of Ho's plan for the Indochinese
Re: ROYAL SINGING, APRIL 2010
A lots of people cried to be victims of genocide in Cambodia but many of them continue to spite over the grave of their parents and family by contributing to the maintain and protecting this horrific massacre machine against people and Khmer nation as the whole. These people should be ashamed of themselves. They are killers and Khmer rouge (yuon killing tools) themselves by choice and not other. Abolition of genocide in Cambodia is first of all Abolition of yuon domination, yuon killing industry and yuon expansionist and genocidal policy in Cambodia through its tools, Khmer rouge, polpot as CPP. The recent discovery of 8,1 millions tones of gold in Ratanakiri will give yuons more reasons and ambition to suppress Khmer people, heirs of these treasures http://amekhmer.free.fr/khcrucial-event/sihanouk-crime/1cambogeno1.html Bopha Angkor - Original Message - From: Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:58 AM Subject: Re: ROYAL SINGING, APRIL 2010 Lauk Koeun Sam Ung, I am also very sorry to hear that you have lost members of your family too. Let us do our very best to prevent this nonsensical from happening again. Our people have suffered enough. I am glad and grateful that you shared this with me. I wish you and your family with great success in whatever you do in life. Sincerely yours, Jay On May 16, 8:45 pm, Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear that. Lok Jaya. My dad, a former Lon Nol's soldier was taken away by Hun Xen's camrade in 1977 til now. My older brother, a simple soldier of artillery unite, also killed by the Southwestern KR in Kampong Cham. My dad in law, a Colonel who took in charge in Banteay Soup, also took away to execute in western field of Battambang judt in a week after KR took over. I miss my dad and brother too. KSU On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com wrote: Lauk Koeun Sam Ung, The Khmer Rouge killed my dad in July of 1978 after someone told the Khmer Rouge of my dad's old occupation. I miss him so much. Jay On May 16, 8:08 pm, Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: No, never, I just guess. I used to be in and out of Banteay Soup which was located behind Sala Khet across the street No. 3. KSU On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com wrote: Lauk Koeun Sam Ung, I don't know the exact name. It was a red building within the compound. If you enter that office, it located on the right hand side. I went to Sala Bopea (Bopea Sala batoma seiksa). I always went to my dad's office on my way home. Did you work there too? On May 16, 7:46 pm, Koeun Sam Ung koeun.sam@gmail.com wrote: Lok Jaya, Is your Dad's 2eme bureau in Banteay Soup, just behind Sala Khet Battambang? KSU On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com wrote: Lauk Perom, May I add lauk Long Boreth= Tuk Tom Samouth Ream Before the Khmer Rouge took over. I went to my dad's office (kariyalay ti pi) near Battambang governor compound. I believe it was Yothea Pirum band was performing. As young as I was, I remember lauk ta Meas Samon played violin beautifully. He also was a very skilled long drum player. If my memory does not deceive me lauk Srei So Savoeun was there too. Thank you lauk for the list. Jay On May 16, 6:57 pm, Perom Uch perom@cambodia-gateway.com wrote: Hello Lok Jaya, We got a similar taste. - Lok Peov Sipho is one the best composer. - And here we go, my favorite composers: - Lok Long Boreth= Nevea Chy Vith - Lok Mer Bun= Romduol Surin - Bawng Hour Lonh= Batt Aun... - Pech Saloeun, one of the best Trompette player... Have a great weekend, /P. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Jayakhmer jayakh...@gmail.com wrote: Lauk Hong Chi Kong, I think his music is really good. But that is just my taste. I have a huge prejudice and the love for Khmer music with wood winds. I don’t like some of the new music with synthesizers. I like real instruments. I want hear the sound of saxophone from saxophone not from a key board. That is why I also love Lauk Peov Si Pho’s compositions. I love most, if not all, of his. Lauk Poev Si Phou’s composition combined with Lauk Sin Si Samout’s beautiful voice. Oh, it is so sweet. I love my Khmer music. As far as Samdech Ta’s movies, I saw a few. I don’t get it. May be after exposing to Hollywood films, I have acquired a different taste. Doy Ko Roup, Jay On May 16, 9:51 am, Hong Chi Kong dagger_yeek...@yahoo.com wrote: Holy Smoke. Do you really think he has that much talent
