Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] Js_of_ocaml version 1.0

2010-12-13 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum
Jerome,

Thank you, this sounds fantastic!  

One small question: could you expand on your last comment:

On Dec 13, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jerome Vouillon wrote:

 snip
 
 Ocamljs optimizes tail recursion, but this comes at a large
 performance cost.

Do you mean all tail-calls come a large cost, or only those outside of plain 
tail-recursion?  Either way, could you give us some more intuition as to why 
this happens, and why js_of_ocaml doesn't suffer from the same problem 
(assuming it applies to tail-recursion)?

Thanks,
Yitzhak

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Re: [Caml-list] Define parser and printer consistently

2010-12-09 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum
PADS/ML can do that for you, and more. You can find information about the PADS 
languages and tools here: 

http://www.padsproj.org

including papers and a manual. The website doesn't have the most recent release 
of PADS/ML -- i plan to put it up on Github shortly -- but if you're 
interested, i'm happy to send you a tarball.

The basic idea is that you specify your grammar as a type-like declaration.  
Then, pads/ml generates an AST, parser, printer and some more stuff for you.  
The generated parser is like a PEG parser, but with support context-sensitive 
parsing. That is, it is deterministic, with ordered choice; and, it is 
scannerless. So, the grammars-writing style has some significant differences 
from ocamllex and ocamlyacc.

PADS/ML has an Eclipse license.

Cheers,
Yitzhak


On Dec 8, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Dawid Toton wrote:

 I'm going to define a parser and a printer for a simple grammar.
 Is there a way to define both of them in a single construct using some 
 existing OCaml tool?
 
 For example, I have a keyword function. The usual parser would contain a 
 mapping like:
 function - `Function
 and the straightforward printer would do:
 `Function - function
 
 What is the best way to combine these definitions, so that duplication would 
 be minimized?
 To be precise, avoiding duplication is not exactly what I need. I'm looking 
 for something that would prevent making inconsistent changes to the parser 
 and the printer.
 
 Dawid
 
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Re: [Caml-list] free, open-source version of OCaml grammar?

2010-02-15 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

Basil,

I agree that my reading might well be too restrictive. Indeed, if  
anyone who understands these matters well can clarify, I'd appreciate  
it.


Regarding the issue of syntax -- true in principle, but the fact of  
the matter is that I started with the yacc grammar, not the reference  
manual.  As an earlier thread on this list discussed [1], the manual  
is more of a guideline, then a specification. :-)


Cheers,
Yitzhak

[1] 
http://caml.inria.fr/pub/ml-archives/caml-list/2008/06/b8d8bf2988e32db0cdb365037297996c.en.html



On Feb 15, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Basile STARYNKEVITCH wrote:


Yitzhak Mandelbaum wrote:

Hi,
I'd like to port the OCaml grammar to another parser generator.  
However, the grammar is covered under the Q Public License, and the  
terms of the license seem to require that the ported version only  
be distributed as a patch to the current YACC grammar. Given that  
I'm porting the grammar to serve as an example for a new parser  
generator, distributing it as an unreadable patch is quite  
impractical.


I am not sure that the licence requires you to make it a patch, if  
the syntax of your grammar is sufficiently different. (for instance,  
to port it to ANTLR/PCCTS). But I am not a lawyer.


If you intend to make a free software of your parser, perhaps the  
easiest way would be to ask kindly the Ocaml team?


My feeling is that your understanding of Ocaml's licence is too  
restrictive, especially if you play the free software game. But I am  
not a lawyer!


And a language syntax is not described by a yacc grammar, but by a  
human readable document. AFAIK, the Ocaml reference manual is not  
covered by QPL.


Regards.


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[Caml-list] iPhone development

2009-11-24 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

Hi,

Back in May there was a brief discussion about developing for the  
iPhone in OCaml.  Does anyone from that discussion, or anyone else,  
have any updates on the process/experience?  Some specific questions:


1. Does anyone know of any open-source code that helps to interface  
OCaml with Cocoa?
2. In May, Jeff Scofield posted a patch to 3.10.2 for cross compiling  
to the arm processor. What about 3.11.x?


Thanks in advance,

Yitzhak

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[Caml-list] float array/record unboxing

2009-05-11 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

hi,

Does anyone know whether float arrays/records are unboxed if float is  
used to instantiate a  type parameter? E.g.


module F (R:sig type t end) = struct
  type foo = { a1 : R.t; b1 : R.t; }
end

module M = F(struct type t = float end)

Is M.foo an unboxed array of floats (as per Chapter 18.3.2 in the  
manual) or not? Empirical evidence suggests that the floats *are*  
boxed. If this is the case, can anyone point me to where this feature  
is documented?


Thanks,
Yitzhak
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[Caml-list] batteries, godi and OS X leopard

2009-03-09 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

Hi all,

I'm having a compilation problem with batteries under godi, running OS  
X Leopard. Has anyone else encountered this?  Any workarounds? I've  
tried manually compiling compilers.mli (works), but then when I rerun  
make it deletes all of the build directories as a first step, so I'm  
out of luck.


Thanks,
Yitzhak

Here's the log from godi_console:

+ ocamlfind ocamlc -c -g -package findlib -I src/libs/compilers -I src  
-I src/main -I src/libs -I src/core -I src/libs/sexplib -I src/libs/ 
ocamlnet -I src/libs/findlib -I src/libs/common -I src/libs/camlzip -I  
src/core/extlib_threads -I src/core/extlib -I src/core/baselib_threads  
-I src/core/baselib -I buil d/optcomp -o src/libs/compilers/ 
compilers.cmo src/libs/compilers/compilers.ml

 File src/libs/compilers/compilers.ml, line 1, characters 0-1:
 Could not find the .cmi file for interface src/libs/compilers/ 
compilers.mli.

 Command exited with code 2.
 make[7]: *** [byte] Error 10
 Error: Exec error: File /Users/yitzhakm/sw/godi/build/godi/godi- 
batteries/./.
  ./../mk/bsd.pkg.mk, line 1039: Command returned with non-zero exit  
code
 Error: Exec error: File /Users/yitzhakm/sw/godi/build/godi/godi- 
batteries/./.
  ./../mk/bsd.pkg.mk, line 1378: Command returned with non-zero exit  
code


### Error: Command fails with code 1: godi_console

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Re: [Caml-list] Re: Tim Rentsch The Abscissa Book

2009-03-08 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum
 have posted.  I encourage reviewers of _both_ books to report
all the facts available to them, and for anyone who would recommend
Jason's book to consider whether they want to be associated with the
kind of intellectual dishonesty he has displayed in his postings here.

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[Caml-list] Boehm-Demers-Weiser and ocaml

2009-01-16 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

Hi,

Has anyone tried to interface ocaml code with C libraries which depend  
on the BDW garbage collector? If so, are there any pitfalls to be  
aware of? Note that I have a fair amount of experience interfacing  
with ordinary C code, I've just never tried to do so in the presence  
of the BDW gc.


Thanks,
Yitzhak
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Re: [Caml-list] What does Jane Street use/want for an IDE? What about you?

2008-10-20 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum

On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:56 AM, David Teller wrote:


Just for the sake of bibliography, this reminds me of efuns [1] and
Chamo [2].

[1] http://pauillac.inria.fr/cdrom/prog/unix/efuns/eng.htm
[2] http://home.gna.org/cameleon/

Cheers,
David


Does anyone know the status of either of these projects? Are they  
still actively maintained?


Yitzhak

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Re: [Caml-list] [camlp4] expr_of_string, string_of_expr functions exist?

2008-08-05 Thread Yitzhak Mandelbaum
I don't know about the new camlp4, but in the old one the code looked  
something like this (where my AST is a list of str_item-s):


open Pcaml

let ast_to_strings ast =
  List.map (function str_item - string_of pr_str_item str_item) ast

--Yitzhak

On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Richard Jones wrote:



Maybe a simple question, but does camlp4 have functions to turn
expr and patt AST structures to and from strings?

Rich.

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