Re: [Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2012-01-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
Big +1 to your proposal.

Paul

On 3 January 2012 11:35, Amila Jayasekara  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Paul Fremantle  wrote:
> > Is there any other difference betwee ApacheDS embedded and H2? In
> general I
> > think that what you have suggested is the right way forward, but I want
> to
> > check what else?
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Following are some other differences between ApacheDS and "Embedded H2".
> 1. ApacheDS has an internal KDC server. By default this is disabled.
> (It is enabled only for IS). But can be enable using a configuration
> change and run a KDC server in other products also.
> 2. "Embedded H2" allows a single client connection, but multiple
> clients can connect to ApacheDS
> 3. ApacheDS adds about 7.4 MB to distribution size
>
> Thanks
> AmilaJ
>
>
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On 28 June 2011 07:27, Amila Jayasekara  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
> >> LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
> >> under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
> >> case.
> >>
> >> We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
> >> As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
> >> products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
> >> architecturally sound.
> >>
> >> Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
> >> like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
> >> we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
> >> which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
> >> use H2.
> >>
> >> So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
> >> make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
> >> use H2 as it was used to be.
> >>
> >> Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.
> >>
> >> Feedback appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> AmilaJ
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Re: [Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2012-01-03 Thread Amila Jayasekara
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Paul Fremantle  wrote:
> Is there any other difference betwee ApacheDS embedded and H2? In general I
> think that what you have suggested is the right way forward, but I want to
> check what else?

Hi Paul,

Following are some other differences between ApacheDS and "Embedded H2".
1. ApacheDS has an internal KDC server. By default this is disabled.
(It is enabled only for IS). But can be enable using a configuration
change and run a KDC server in other products also.
2. "Embedded H2" allows a single client connection, but multiple
clients can connect to ApacheDS
3. ApacheDS adds about 7.4 MB to distribution size

Thanks
AmilaJ


>
> Paul
>
> On 28 June 2011 07:27, Amila Jayasekara  wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
>> LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
>> under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
>> case.
>>
>> We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
>> As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
>> products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
>> architecturally sound.
>>
>> Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
>> like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
>> we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
>> which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
>> use H2.
>>
>> So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
>> make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
>> use H2 as it was used to be.
>>
>> Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.
>>
>> Feedback appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> AmilaJ
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>
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Re: [Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2012-01-03 Thread Paul Fremantle
Is there any other difference betwee ApacheDS embedded and H2? In general I
think that what you have suggested is the right way forward, but I want to
check what else?

Paul

On 28 June 2011 07:27, Amila Jayasekara  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
> LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
> under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
> case.
>
> We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
> As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
> products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
> architecturally sound.
>
> Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
> like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
> we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
> which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
> use H2.
>
> So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
> make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
> use H2 as it was used to be.
>
> Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> AmilaJ
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Re: [Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2012-01-03 Thread Thilina Buddhika
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Manjula Rathnayake wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I will move apacheds component/feature from carbon core to components.
> This way we can avoid embeded ldap server within all products and add the
> feature only to identity server.
>
> If you have no concern on this, I will move on.
>

+1.

Thanks,
Thilina


>
> Thank you.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Amila Jayasekara wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
>> LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
>> under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
>> case.
>>
>> We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
>> As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
>> products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
>> architecturally sound.
>>
>> Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
>> like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
>> we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
>> which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
>> use H2.
>>
>> So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
>> make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
>> use H2 as it was used to be.
>>
>> Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.
>>
>> Feedback appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> AmilaJ
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>
>
>
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Re: [Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2012-01-03 Thread Manjula Rathnayake
Hi all,

I will move apacheds component/feature from carbon core to components. This
way we can avoid embeded ldap server within all products and add the
feature only to identity server.

If you have no concern on this, I will move on.

Thank you.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Amila Jayasekara  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
> LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
> under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
> case.
>
> We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
> As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
> products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
> architecturally sound.
>
> Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
> like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
> we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
> which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
> use H2.
>
> So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
> make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
> use H2 as it was used to be.
>
> Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> AmilaJ
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[Carbon-dev] ApacheDS as default user store of core ?

2011-06-27 Thread Amila Jayasekara
Hi All,

It seems that lot of members were under the impression that embedded
LDAP server is not binding an address. Thus most of the people are
under the impression that it behaves like H2. But this is not the
case.

We (me, Shankar, Amila and Azeez) had a discussion about this.
As per our current implementation we have LDAP servers embedded in all
products. Also it seems having LDAP servers in all products is not
architecturally sound.

Thus apacheds has a way of by passing the network layer and using just
like H2. For this we need to write a new user store manager. But IMO
we are not going to gain much from implementing a user store manager
which uses only apacheds (By passing network layer). Instead we could
use H2.

So the conclusion was to use apacheds only within Identity Server and
make it an optional feature for other products. Other products will
use H2 as it was used to be.

Please let us know what you all think about this conclusion.

Feedback appreciated.

Thanks
AmilaJ
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