Re: [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager
Thanks 在2008-06-24 03:05:23，Gjergj Sheldija [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道： Hi Robert, you're experience knowledge is welcomed ! gj. Robert Meggle wrote: Hi Gjergj and Puvanendran, My congratulations for that job and thank you very much. J I will support you with your new role here as much as I can. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Elpidio Latorilla *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Juni 2008 01:14 *An:* care2002-developers *Betreff:* [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager Hi all, I am glad to know that within less than 24 hours of my post regarding the need for a new release manager, people have volunteered to the task. So here is the result: Gjergj Sheldija is the release manager starting today. Puvanendran Senthilruban is the deputy release manager. Both will work together to keep the versions up to date. Regards, Elpidio - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager
Hi Gj Many congratulations!!! As you know, we will be with you all the time. Claudio Hi Gjergj and Puvanendran, My congratulations for that job and thank you very much. J I will support you with your new role here as much as I can. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Elpidio Latorilla *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Juni 2008 01:14 *An:* care2002-developers *Betreff:* [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager Hi all, I am glad to know that within less than 24 hours of my post regarding the need for a new release manager, people have volunteered to the task. So here is the result: Gjergj Sheldija is the release manager starting today. Puvanendran Senthilruban is the deputy release manager. Both will work together to keep the versions up to date. Regards, Elpidio - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio G. Torbinio http://cgt.altervista.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] callto://nursind.ancona (Skype ID) mobile: +393339925580 fax: +39719173917 - Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Arizona Riccione * Sul Mare Piscina e idromassaggio riscaldati- Camere con vasca Idro Vicino al Palazzo dei Congressi e a 10km da Riminifiera Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8030d=24-6 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 23/06/2008 19.16 - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager
where do i begin work? 在2008-06-24 16:22:11，Dott Claudio G. Torbinio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道： Hi Gj Many congratulations!!! As you know, we will be with you all the time. Claudio Hi Gjergj and Puvanendran, My congratulations for that job and thank you very much. J I will support you with your new role here as much as I can. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Elpidio Latorilla *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Juni 2008 01:14 *An:* care2002-developers *Betreff:* [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager Hi all, I am glad to know that within less than 24 hours of my post regarding the need for a new release manager, people have volunteered to the task. So here is the result: Gjergj Sheldija is the release manager starting today. Puvanendran Senthilruban is the deputy release manager. Both will work together to keep the versions up to date. Regards, Elpidio - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio G. Torbinio http://cgt.altervista.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] callto://nursind.ancona (Skype ID) mobile: +393339925580 fax: +39719173917 - Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Arizona Riccione * Sul Mare Piscina e idromassaggio riscaldati- Camere con vasca Idro Vicino al Palazzo dei Congressi e a 10km da Riminifiera Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8030d=24-6 - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager
Hi all Just a comment, in México, we have a new health government model, based on an insurance, called Seguro Popular works exactly like an insurance, the person has a policy and the hospitals need to know exactly what they do with the pacient and how much that it cost. I like that care2x include a cost and cashier module, including policy (seguro popular) control, and cie10 diagnosis compatible to generate statistics based on cie10 I am a developer, if i can participate in any way just let me know Thanks Pepe Magaña CIO Hospital General de Ensenada P.D. We are implementing a HIS in delphi, (open source too) but we are interested in evaluate care 2x Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:29:58 +0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager where do i begin work? 在2008-06-24 16:22:11，Dott Claudio G. Torbinio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道： Hi Gj Many congratulations!!! As you know, we will be with you all the time. Claudio Hi Gjergj and Puvanendran, My congratulations for that job and thank you very much. J I will support you with your new role here as much as I can. Robert MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle Hohnerstrasse 6 89079 Ulm Germany Tel: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 27 Fax: +49(0)7 31- 1 75 97- 25 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Von:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Im Auftrag von *Elpidio Latorilla *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. Juni 2008 01:14 *An:* care2002-developers *Betreff:* [Care2002-developers] New release manager with deputy manager Hi all, I am glad to know that within less than 24 hours of my post regarding the need for a new release manager, people have volunteered to the task. So here is the result: Gjergj Sheldija is the release manager starting today. Puvanendran Senthilruban is the deputy release manager. Both will work together to keep the versions up to date. Regards, Elpidio - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Dott Claudio G. Torbinio http://cgt.altervista.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] callto://nursind.ancona (Skype ID) mobile: +393339925580 fax: +39719173917 - Riservatezza In ottemperanza al D.Lgs. n. 196 del 30/6/2003 in materia di protezione dei dati personali,le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono strettamente riservate ed esclusivamente indirizzate al destinatario indicato (oppure alla persona responsabile di rimetterlo al destinatario). Vogliate tener presente che qualsiasi uso, riproduzione o divulgazione di questo messaggio è vietato. Nel caso in cui aveste ricevuto questo messaggio per errore, vogliate cortesemente avvertire il mittente inviando una email a [EMAIL PROTECTED] o telefonando al n. +393339925580 e distruggere il presente messaggio. Confidentiality According to Italian law D.Lgs. 196/2003 concerning privacy, if you are not the addressee (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person) you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call n. +393339925580 and destroy it. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Hotel Arizona Riccione * Sul Mare Piscina e idromassaggio riscaldati- Camere con vasca Idro – Vicino al Palazzo dei Congressi e a 10km da Riminifiera Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=8030d=24-6 快来用音乐为奥运加油得奥运会、演唱会门票 _ Tenemos lo que búscas…JUEGOS. http://club.prodigymsn.com/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22
Puvanendran Senthilruban wrote: Hi all, Thank you very much for you guys who wished us for our new roles. My best wishes to you. There are lot items in our card to improve the care2x project design, development and releases with documentation. We are discussing these days and we would like community to drive the project as we can get more valuable inputs from your experiences. That seems good. Perhaps even a better way to start would be to take a look at the free/open source/freely downloadable book from Karl Fogel's Producing Open Source Software (available at: http://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.pdf) I would start by reading chapters 6 and 7 of that book. I am sure that you will be able to immediately find a lot of easy and very useful changes to make. About Care2x code: 1. Making Care2x always run in the current stable version of Apache, MySQl/PostgreSQl and PHP should be among the first priorities; 2. Have a clear Howto install Care2x from bare metal (either windows or linux): - Either you will be using it for serious day-to-day patient management and in that case you need to know (or have access to someone who knows) how to properly install a running Care2x Server. - Or you just found Care2x and are searching for a quick way to check it and, in that case, you have the live demo. In that case you should not deserve too much time from the developers community. Care2x is not a Game or a computer utility that one installs over the knee just to take a quick look and play a little before and abandoning it to the next mew thing. - So, please, no Care2x installations over Xampp or its cousins. For serious clinical usage, do you seriously think that it will substitute the rock solid foundation of a a properly installed support stack (Apache-Dbms-PHP) over a properly configured server? A couple of sugestions: 1. Now that it has become a child's play to install Ubuntu Linux either by itself, or on a dual boot machine, or even inside a windows partition, let's reduce Care2x environment variability (installation, support, maintenance) and agree that the standard Care2x Developers Installation should be made over, for instance, Ubuntu 8.04 2. Let's start reducing Care2x code complexity. In some ways Care2x has grown beyond manageability: - We have AdoDB to make it work with a lot of DBMS but most of the time ended up installed it just to work over MySql or PostgreSql - We have now Smarty templating just to end with more complex code to make almost the same that was done before with the more simpler project code - and the list goes on... making it so complex that now nobody is able to understand it enough to be able to change a few lines of code and commit it to the CVS. 3. It is obvious that it is unnecessarily hard to commit changes to the present code tree CVS. That was the problem of many other software projects. That was the main reason why many of them changed from sourceforge to google code, launchpad, or some other platforms. It is obvious that a DISTRIBUTED CVS would, in 2008, serve much better the Care2x project: we have groups in Africa committing to themselves, we have groups in Latin America committing to themselves, we have groups in Germany committing to themselves, we see a loot of emails with code snippets and bug reports that never appear in the Care2x's FAQ, or CVS , or Wiki. All these people cannot be wrong, and if they are not wrong than there must be anything keeping them from doing the proper thing, i.e., reporting the bugs at the bugs page, committing code and patches to the code and patches page, looking for answers for common problems at the FAQ's page. Time has proven that sourceforge has not been good at supporting these activities. It is unnecessarily complex. It is not user friendly. Far from being a place to keep the Care2x community united, it has been a source of frustration. Best regards, M. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22
Hi, Perhaps even a better way to start would be to take a look at the free/open source/freely downloadable book from Karl Fogel's Producing Open Source Software (available at: http://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.pdf) Thanks, nice hint. I would start by reading chapters 6 and 7 of that book. I am sure that you will be able to immediately find a lot of easy and very useful changes to make. About Care2x code: 1. Making Care2x always run in the current stable version of Apache, MySQl/PostgreSQl and PHP should be among the first priorities; That is, according to my information given. If not, then it's not a headache. Or what do you exactly mean? 2. Have a clear Howto install Care2x from bare metal (either windows or linux): - Either you will be using it for serious day-to-day patient management and in that case you need to know (or have access to someone who knows) how to properly install a running Care2x Server. Can you explain that more precisely? - Or you just found Care2x and are searching for a quick way to check it and, in that case, you have the live demo. In that case you should not deserve too much time from the developers community. Care2x is not a Game or a computer utility that one installs over the knee just to take a quick look and play a little before and abandoning it to the next mew thing. - So, please, no Care2x installations over Xampp or its cousins. For serious clinical usage, do you seriously think that it will substitute the rock solid foundation of a a properly installed support stack (Apache-Dbms-PHP) over a properly configured server? Care2x does not comes with xampp or it's cousins. The issue is that on the one hand you should be able to install a linux based system, or you can use a preconfigured xampp. In case you have IT department, there is no reason to use xampp. In case you don't have, why not? A couple of sugestions: 1. Now that it has become a child's play to install Ubuntu Linux either by itself, or on a dual boot machine, or even inside a windows partition, let's reduce Care2x environment variability (installation, support, maintenance) and agree that the standard Care2x Developers Installation should be made over, for instance, Ubuntu 8.04 Do you mean that it should be available via apt-get? 2. Let's start reducing Care2x code complexity. In some ways Care2x has grown beyond manageability: - We have AdoDB to make it work with a lot of DBMS but most of the time ended up installed it just to work over MySql or PostgreSql Yes, but that's not the once and only reason to use adoDB. It's also a question of speed. adoDB is faster and has some nice features for developers (debugging). I would not say that a native mysql connection would be a better way. Alternative we could think about the way how ZF is using it, but that would be a completely restart of the project. (It does not fit how the sql queries are used now) - We have now Smarty templating just to end with more complex code to make almost the same that was done before with the more simpler project code Forget smarty. It's worse. It's a nice template engine when there is a need of template engines. But care2x does not need precompiled pages. Especially under linux it makes sometimes really nice results if you do not have writing permissions set on the smarty destinated folders. Okay, it's given now, and we can use it. But I do not think that this will help to continue for that project. Almost we do not have more than 200 users at the same time on care2x working. - and the list goes on... making it so complex that now nobody is able to understand it enough to be able to change a few lines of code and commit it to the CVS. I would say that it is not as complex as you describe it here. But if you want to add a new module then you should think how the given classes are working that your code will fit to the survey. 3. It is obvious that it is unnecessarily hard to commit changes to the present code tree CVS. That was the problem of many other software projects. That was the main reason why many of them changed from sourceforge to google code, launchpad, or some other platforms. Actually SVN is even better than CVS.. but: It is obvious that a DISTRIBUTED CVS would, in 2008, serve much better the Care2x project: we have groups in Africa committing to themselves, we have groups in Latin America committing to themselves, we have groups in Germany committing to themselves, we see a loot of emails with code snippets and bug reports that never appear in the Care2x's FAQ, or CVS , or Wiki. ...CVS is working faster for smaller internet connections. That's for East Africa the once and only reason. Nothing else. But the East African sources are also mirrowed to the SF SVN. All these people cannot be wrong, and if they are not wrong than there must be anything keeping them from doing the proper thing, i.e., reporting the
